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UNSTOPPABLE: The Podcast
by Laing+Simmons
UNSTOPPABLE is hosted by Jacqui Barnes and Angela Avgerinos, two real estate leaders with a passion for progress. With experience across growth, leadership, and performance, JB and Ange ask the questions others won't, sparking real conversations the industry actually needs. These episodes cut through the noise, challenge your thinking, and deliver the tools to help business owners and agents grow stronger, lead better, and become truly unstoppable.
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Robbie Lofaro on Culture, Courage, and Scaling Without Compromise
In this episode of Unstoppable, Jacqui Barnes and Angela Avgerinos sit down with Robbie Lofaro, one of Harcourts' youngest business owners and a leader redefining what’s possible in real estate. At just 25, Robbie bought his first office and has since scaled to over 150 team members across multiple locations. He shares his journey of backing himself, building culture-first teams, and letting leadership, not ego, guide the way.What We CoverGoing all-in: how Robbie stopped selling to become a full-time leaderGrowing from 10 to 150 staff in four years without cutting cornersWhy culture is non-negotiable, even if it means letting top performers goStructuring a business to actually support agents like clientsBuilding training, media, and tech teams to scale sustainablyLeading with consistency, humility, and a clear visionWhy some agents thrive, and others quietly sabotage their own potentialWhy Listen This episode is a masterclass in bold leadership, smart systems, and the power of getting out of your own way. Robbie’s approach proves that age doesn’t define leadership, clarity, consistency, and courage do.
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Fiona Blayney on Leadership, Chaos, and Letting Go of “Having It All”
In this episode of Unstoppable, Jacqui Barnes and Angela Avgerinos sit down with Fiona Blayney, CEO of Real Plus and one of the most influential voices in real estate leadership. Known for her sharp thinking and no-nonsense approach, Fiona unpacks the myth of “having it all,” the realities of leadership, and why integration (not balance) is the real secret to success.What We CoverWhy “having it all” is a myth and what to aim for insteadThe truth about chaos, control, and finding your version of balanceLeadership without followers: what real influence looks likeHow business owners can stop managing and start leadingPM benchmarks, burnout, and why tech should support, not replace peopleWhat separates resilient, successful real estate businesses from the restWhy Listen Fiona cuts through the fluff with clarity and heart. If you’ve ever questioned your capacity, struggled to lead with impact, or wanted to better align your work and life this one’s a must.
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Scaling with Purpose: Nick Georges on Trust and Letting Go
In this episode of Unstoppable, Jacqui Barnes and Angela Avgerinos chat with Nick Georges, industry leader, strategist, and co-founder of Wingman. From managing portfolios to driving some of the biggest acquisitions in real estate, Nick shares how relationships, trust, and letting go of control have helped him scale one of the fastest-growing businesses in the industry.What We CoverNick’s leap from corporate to startup and how he backed himselfWhat real leadership looks likeScaling Wingman from 25 to 1,100+ staff in just 18 monthsWhy real estate still needs humans and how AI and outsourcing can support thatHow to stop overcomplicating your business and get out of your own wayCybersecurity, tech, and what the smartest business owners are doing nextWhy ListenIf you’ve ever wrestled with control, felt stuck in your growth, or want to scale smarter, Nick lays out the mindset and structure that actually gets results. No fluff. Just what works.
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Leading with Impact: Lisa Pennell on Culture, Courage, and Real Change
In this episode of Unstoppable, Jacqui Barnes and Angela Avgerinos sit down with Lisa Pennell, CEO of Barry Plant. Lisa shares how she’s led a major transformation of one of Melbourne’s most iconic real estate networks, rebuilding the brand from the inside out with bold strategy, deep empathy, and an unwavering focus on human connection.What We CoverThe behind-the-scenes shift that led Barry Plant to take out Major Network of the YearHow Lisa led large-scale change across tech, culture, and leadershipWhy psychological safety is now non-negotiable for high performanceThe difference between intention and impact and why it mattersLeadership ego, humility, and building trust through tough conversationsWhat the industry really needs to talk about (but often doesn’t)Why ListenIf you lead a team, a business, or are stepping into a leadership role, this episode is packed with sharp thinking and grounded, actionable advice. Lisa keeps it real, and that’s what makes it powerful.
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Leading Without Burning Out: Rebecca Halton on Growth, Boundaries, and Sustainable Success
In this episode of UNSTOPPABLE, Jacqui Barnes and Angela Avgerinos chat with Rebecca Halton, CEO of LJ Hooker Property Experience. Rebecca shares her journey of scaling a high-performing business, overcoming burnout, redefining leadership, and how protecting her time has transformed her success, both professionally and personally.What We CoverThe real warning signs of burnout and how Rebecca came back strongerWhy being “busy” is not a badge of honourShifting from manager to true leaderHow motherhood reshaped her leadership styleSetting better boundaries and building sustainable growthThe conversations the real estate industry still needs to haveWhy Listen If you’re chasing growth but feeling the pressure, Rebecca’s story will show you it’s possible to lead, grow, and thrive without losing yourself in the process.
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Owning Your Story: Why Authenticity and Vulnerability Are Your Real Superpowers
In this episode of UNSTOPPABLE, Jacqui Barnes and Angela Avgerinos are joined by Andy Reid, auctioneer, high-performance coach, and now author of Success Curious. Andy shares the raw reality of writing his first book, building a purpose-driven career, and why authenticity and vulnerability are the true currencies of success.What We CoverDefining success on your own termsThe reality of writing a bookWhy authenticity is the real professional advantageHow vulnerability leads to true leadershipLessons in growth, resilience, and staying curiousThe biggest myth in real estate and what’s coming nextWhy ListenIf you’ve ever battled imposter syndrome, struggled with authenticity, or just needed a reminder to back yourself, Andy’s story will hit home and push you forward.
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Building High-Performance Teams: How Avi Khan Scales with Vision and Grit
In this episode of UNSTOPPABLE, Jacqui Barnes and Angela Avgerinos sit down with Avi Khan, the force behind Ray White AKG. Known for building high-performing teams and redefining leadership in Queensland real estate, Avi shares the bold strategies, mindset shifts, and leadership lessons that have fuelled his extraordinary growth journey.What We CoverThe conversation the industry needs but isn’t havingWhy customer service starts with your internal teamBuilding a business by creating specialist rolesRethinking recruitment eventsCoping with criticism and confused admirersSuccession planning, scaling through acquisitions, and leading with impactWhy Listen If you’re serious about scaling a business, leading people better, or just doing things differently, Avi’s no-nonsense insights will get you thinking and taking action.
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Bold Moves & Real Talk: Leanne Pilkington on Reinventing Leadership
In this episode of UNSTOPPABLE, Jacqui Barnes and Angela Avgerinos chat with industry powerhouse Leanne Pilkington - CEO of Laing+Simmons, REIA President, and founder of Real Women in Real Estate (RWIRE). Leanne shares candid insights from her career journey, from family business roots to driving industry change, leadership lessons, and the mindset shifts that reshaped her path.What We CoverLeanne’s start in real estate and what’s kept her inspiredHow personal growth fueled her leadership evolutionHer proudest achievements at Laing+SimmonsWhy she launched RWIRE and why it still mattersFacing imposter syndrome and learning to back herselfHer take on leadership today and where it’s headedWhy ListenIf you’ve ever questioned your next step or struggled to lead with confidence, Leanne’s story is the real, raw reminder we all need. This is leadership without the filter.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
UNSTOPPABLE is hosted by Jacqui Barnes and Angela Avgerinos, two real estate leaders with a passion for progress. With experience across growth, leadership, and performance, JB and Ange ask the questions others won't, sparking real conversations the industry actually needs. These episodes cut through the noise, challenge your thinking, and deliver the tools to help business owners and agents grow stronger, lead better, and become truly unstoppable.
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