PODCAST · education
Walk the Walk: Learning and Leading For a Better World
by Walk the Walk
Walk the Walk isn’t your typical education podcast. It rethinks the assumptions and expectations of traditional schooling. Hosted by Scott McLarty, Head of Providence High School, each episode flips the script with bold conversations that challenge the status quo. From trailblazers in diverse fields to leaders across all industries, Scott and his guests explore how learning isn’t just about knowing, it’s about doing; it’s about shaping character, leadership, and community in ways that matter. Let’s walk the walk, together.
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What We Carry Into Summer
In this episode of Walk the Walk, Scott McLarty reflects on the emotional threshold that arrives at the end of every school year, a moment filled with exhaustion, gratitude, celebration, uncertainty, and hope. As students, parents, teachers, and school leaders prepare to step into summer, Scott explores what it means to navigate seasons of transition and change. Drawing on themes explored throughout the first season of the podcast, Scott revisits the challenges of living and leading in a VUCA and BANI world — one marked by volatility, anxiety, complexity, and rapid change. Rather than offering simple answers, he invites listeners to consider the kind of leadership and humanity this moment requires: courage, curiosity, humility, resilience, compassion, and the willingness to embrace mystery.Throughout the episode, Scott highlights several meaningful practices for renewal this summer, including: Recovering Our Attention: Reclaiming space for presence, reflection, and deeper human connection. Reading, Listening, and Wandering: Following curiosity and allowing ideas to stretch and renew us. Practicing Better Questions: Developing the habit of asking thoughtful, courageous, and compassionate questions. Making Room for Joy: Remembering that rest, laughter, wonder, and play are essential parts of human flourishing. Scott also looks ahead to the next two episodes — as well as the next season — of Walk the Walk, which will explore one of the defining forces shaping our future: artificial intelligence. Through questions about wisdom, consciousness, leadership, and what it means to be fully human, the upcoming series will examine how we prepare young people to navigate an increasingly technological world without losing their humanity in the process.Scott then leaves listeners with one final invitation: to take a walk with a single meaningful question and resist the urge to rush toward an answer, allowing the question to slowly shape their perspective, reflection, and growth. Please visit www.providencehigh.org/walkthewalk to join our mailing list and become part of the ongoing conversation. Walk the Walk can be found on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, LinkedIn — or wherever you listen. Please support us by liking and subscribing. Thanks for walking the walk.
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Marla Cornelius: Part 2
In this episode of Walk the Walk, Scott McLarty continues his conversation with Marla Cornelius, a nonprofit consultant, coach, and strengths-based leadership expert.Together, they take a deeper look at the CliftonStrengths Assessment, exploring what it is, why it matters, and how it can be applied in everyday leadership, learning, and relationships.Marla unpacks the shift from a deficit-based mindset to a strengths-based approach, emphasizing the importance of focusing on what’s right with people and how that perspective drives engagement, growth, and impact.The conversation explores several key themes:Understanding Strengths: Examining CliftonStrengths as a research-based, descriptive tool that helps individuals identify and articulate their natural talents.From Insight to Action: Exploring the “name it, claim it, aim it” framework and how strengths can be intentionally applied to real challenges and goals.Strengths in Practice: Looking at how strengths show up in the classroom, in leadership, and in everyday decision-making.Relationships and Communication: Understanding how awareness of our own strengths, and those of others, can reduce friction and improve how we work and live together.Scott and Marla also walk through Scott’s own CliftonStrengths results, offering a practical, real-time example of how this work can deepen understanding and shape leadership.They conclude with a clear takeaway: strengths aren’t just something to identify—they’re something to use, intentionally, in how we learn deeply, lead bravely, and connect with others.Please visit www.providencehigh.org/walkthewalk to join our mailing list and become a part of the ongoing conversation.Walk the Walk can be found on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, LinkedIn – or wherever you listen. Please support us by liking and subscribing. Thanks for walking the walk.
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Marla Cornelius: Part 1
In this episode of Walk the Walk, Scott McLarty, Head of School at Providence High School, sits down with Marla Cornelius, nonprofit consultant, coach, and strengths-based leadership expert.Together, they explore what it means to lead with purpose in a rapidly changing world, examining how leaders can balance vision and execution while staying grounded in values and impact. Marla shares her journey into the nonprofit sector, helping leaders better understand themselves through strengths-based coaching. She emphasizes the importance of self-awareness, authenticity, and continuous growth as the foundation for effective leadership.The conversation explores several key themes:Leading Self First: Understanding how purpose, values, and self-awareness shape effective leadership.Management vs. Leadership: Exploring the balance between big-picture vision and the practical execution needed to achieve it.Adapting to Change: Examining how leaders can navigate uncertainty by focusing on impact, embracing flexibility, and using tools like scenario planning.Strengths-Based Leadership: Highlighting how identifying and leveraging natural talents can empower individuals and teams.Scott and Marla also reflect on the role of humility in leadership, the tension between ego and purpose, and the idea that leadership is not about position, but about influence and authenticity.They conclude by reinforcing a powerful idea: anyone can lead from anywhere, and meaningful impact begins with knowing who you are and choosing how you show up.Please visit www.providencehigh.org/walkthewalk to join our mailing list and become a part of the ongoing conversation.Walk the Walk can be found on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, LinkedIn – or wherever you listen. Please support us by liking and subscribing.Thanks for walking the walk.
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If the World Is Incomprehensible, We Must Embrace Mystery
If the World Is Incomprehensible, We Must Embrace MysteryIn this episode of Walk the Walk, Scott McLarty, Head of School at Providence High School, reflects on what it means to live in a world that often feels impossible to fully understand. Rather than treating life’s contradictions as problems to solve, he invites listeners to see mystery as an essential part of being human.Drawing on spiritual insight, philosophy, and lived experience, Scott explores how our craving for certainty can narrow our awareness. When we release the need to explain everything, we make room for humility, compassion, and a deeper sense of presence. Mystery becomes less of a threat and more of a companion, one that expands our capacity for wonder.To help listeners engage with the unknown in a meaningful way, Scott offers several practical practices: Sit With the Unresolved. Spend a few quiet moments acknowledging something in your life that lacks clarity, without rushing to fix or define it. Ask “What Is This Moment Asking of Me?” Shift from analyzing life to participating in it bringing you back to embodied presence. Trade Judgment for Curiosity. When you catch yourself labeling an experience as good or bad, ask what else might be true, opening the door to deeper understanding. Let Mystery Have Space. Identify one area where you’ve been demanding certainty and observe how your relationship to it shifts. Ground Yourself in Simple Rituals. Use breathing, walking, and silence to stay steady while navigating the unknown. Scott concludes with a gentle reminder that mystery is not a failure of understanding but a pathway to wisdom. By welcoming the incomprehensible rather than resisting it, we learn to walk through life with greater grace, courage, and trust. Please visit www.providencehigh.org/walkthewalk to join our mailing list and become a part of the ongoing conversation.Walk the Walk can be found on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, LinkedIn – or wherever you listen. Please support us by liking and subscribing.Thanks for walking the walk.
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If the World Is Nonlinear, We Must Become Agile
If the World Is Nonlinear, We Must Become AgileIn this episode of Walk the Walk, Scott McLarty, Head of School at Providence High School, reflects on one of the most frustrating realities of modern life: effort doesn’t always lead to expected results. Welcome to a nonlinear world—where cause and effect feel disconnected, progress is unpredictable, and outcomes don’t always match the work we put in.Drawing on insights from Leaders Make the Future: 10 New Skills to Humanize Leadership with Generative AI, Scott explores how this nonlinear reality shows up in everything from global systems to our everyday lives, and why the key response isn’t working harder but becoming more agile. Agility, as Scott explains, isn’t about moving faster—it’s about staying responsive, adaptable, and grounded in purpose even when the path forward is unclear. Inspired by the inspiring legacy of the Sisters of Providence, this episode challenges listeners to embrace flexibility, trust the process, and remain anchored in what matters most.Here are a few practices Scott recommends:Hold goals lightly and values firmly. Stay rooted in purpose while remaining flexible in your approach. Treat surprises as information, not interruption. Ask, “What is this teaching me?” Iterate to shorten the feedback loop. Learn through small experiments and adjust in real time. Normalize course correction. Changing direction isn’t failure, it’s awareness. In a world that resists predictability, this episode is a reminder that we can’t control outcomes, but we can choose how we respond: with openness, humility, and trust.Please visit www.providencehigh.org/walkthewalk to join our mailing list and become a part of the ongoing conversation.Walk the Walk can be found on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, LinkedIn – or wherever you listen. Please support us by liking and subscribing.Thanks for walking the walk.
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If the World Is Anxious, We Must Build Resilience
If the World Is Anxious, We Must Build ResilienceIn this episode of Walk the Walk, Scott McLarty, Head of Providence High School, names the quiet, persistent presence of anxiety in a chaotic world and reframes resilience as a shared commitment to return to ourselves and show up for each other. Rather than romanticizing stoic endurance, Scott invites listeners to see resilience as recovery and regulation, rooted in body, spirit, and relationships. Drawing on contemporary leadership writing and the example of the Sisters of Providence, Scott shows how resilience has been lived out through prayer, community, and service, even amid uncertainty. He then shares concrete, everyday habits listeners can begin using to build steadiness together, including: Tend to the nervous system: Use breath, movement, sleep, and stillness to signal safety and support clear thinking. Create rhythms, not just routines: Intentionally cycle between work and rest. Name feelings without being defined by them: Gently naming anxiety helps it lose power and become something you can relate to. Borrow strength from others: Share resilience through connection—leaning on one another is wisdom, not weakness. Root yourself in meaning: Anchor your actions in purpose, faith, and service to steady you through hard times. Scott emphasizes that anxiety is often a predictable response to our fast-paced, connected world, not a personal failing, and that resilience is an act of love that enables us to show up for each other with compassion and clarity. Listeners are invited to practice these habits personally and within their communities to foster steadiness in unsteady times. Please visit www.providencehigh.org/walkthewalk to join our mailing list and become a part of the ongoing conversation. Walk the Walk can be found on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, LinkedIn – or wherever you listen. Please support us by liking and subscribing. Thanks for walking the walk.
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If the World Is Brittle, We Must Stay Connected
If the World Is Brittle, We Must Stay ConnectedIn this episode, Scott delves into the intricate dynamics of connection in a brittle world. While brittleness may appear as strength, it disguises a precarious reality – one that can shatter under pressure. Drawing on insights from Nassim Nicholas Taleb’s Antifragile, Scott illustrates that relationships can not only endure stress but also grow stronger because of it. As he examines the insights from Bob Johansen, Jeremy Kirshbaum, and Gabe Cervantes in Leaders Make the Future, Scott uncovers how brittle systems can dismantle relationships and communities. Stress and adversity are inevitable, yet our choices in response define whether individuals remain fractured or become stronger.As he reflects on the importance of connection within the Providence community, Scott outlines practical strategies for fostering deeper connections:Prioritize Presence Over Performance: Fully engaging in interactions rather than striving for perfection, fosters genuine connection.Strengthen Weak Ties: Reaching out to acquaintances and neighbors can enhance resilience and a sense of belonging.Repair Quickly and Gently: Perfection isn't required, humility is. Apologize when needed, and repair early.Create Safe Spaces for Authenticity: Create environments where people feel free to express vulnerability without fear of judgement.Throughout the episode, Scott underscores that amidst life's challenges, the strength derived from meaningful relationships is vital for resilience. He encourages listeners to embrace connection, believing that through intentional efforts, individuals can not only survive but thrive together in a complex world.Please visit www.providencehigh.org/walkthewalk to join our mailing list and become a part of the ongoing conversation.Walk the Walk can be found on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, LinkedIn – or wherever you listen. Please support us by liking and subscribing. Thanks for walking the walk.
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This Is the Work Now
This Is the Work NowIn this episode of Walk the Walk, Scott McLarty, Head of School at Providence High School, explores the complexities of our unpredictable world. He reflects on how we've long relied on the VUCA framework - volatile, uncertain, complex, and ambiguous - to help us make sense of the chaos that surrounds us. However, it’s becoming increasingly clear that VUCA no longer fully captures the challenges we’re facing today.Enter BANI, a term coined by futurist Jamais Cascio to emphasize the brittle, anxious, nonlinear, and incomprehensible nature of our times. Scott explains how BANI impacts not only our systems but also each of us as individuals. He highlights that structures we once considered stable can fall apart, anxiety has become widespread, outcomes are often complex and unpredictable, and finding common meaning can be elusive. This moment isn't simply about trying to keep pace; it signals a shift in our reality.Over the past few weeks, Scott has shared key ways to navigate this landscape together:In volatility, we ground ourselves in enduring values.In uncertainty, we embrace curiosity.Amid complexity, we seek wisdom.In ambiguity, we welcome paradox.Scott reminds us that these are not just coping strategies; they reflect essential ways of being and shares how, at Providence, this approach aligns with our mission and heritage. He highlights how the Sisters of Providence acted with boldness, trusting in relationships and values even when clarity was lacking. They understood what we’re rediscovering now: formation matters more than having absolute certainty.Throughout this episode, Scott emphasizes that this work is deeply human, focusing on our path to become trustworthy individuals in a world that often feels unsteady. While change is inevitable, he invites listeners to reflect on this crucial question: who do we choose to be?Please visit www.providencehigh.org/walkthewalk to join our mailing list and become a part of the ongoing conversation.Walk the Walk can be found on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, LinkedIn – or wherever you listen. Please support us by liking and subscribing. Thanks for walking the walk.
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If the World Is Ambiguous, We Must Welcome Paradox
If the World Is Ambiguous, We Must Welcome ParadoxIn this episode of Walk the Walk, Scott McLarty, Head of Providence High School, delves into the uncomfortable reality of ambiguity in our lives. In a world where clarity is sought after relentlessly, Scott invites us to embrace the paradox that comes with complex thinking.Through delving into the significance of paradox, he reveals it as a tool for embracing seemingly contradictory truths instead of viewing them as confusion. Drawing on insights from faith and educational leadership, Scott shares how the Sisters of Providence managed the tension between trust and uncertainty, offering valuable wisdom for navigating our own challenges.Scott presents practical approaches to welcoming paradox in daily life, including:Resisting False Choices: Moving from either/or to both/and thinking.Slowing Down Meaning-Making: Acknowledging that some insights take time.Staying Rooted in Values: Allowing timeless principles to guide our decisions.Practicing Intellectual Humility: Embracing wisdom in “not” knowing.Challenging Narratives: Acknowledging the stories we create without clarity.Throughout the episode, Scott emphasizes that while ambiguity may not fully disappear, welcoming paradox can transform our relationship with it. Rather than reacting with fear, we can cultivate openness that leads to deeper understanding and stronger connections in our lives.Please visit www.providencehigh.org/walkthewalk to join our mailing list and become a part of the ongoing conversation.Walk the Walk can be found on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, LinkedIn – or wherever you listen. Please support us by liking and subscribing. Thanks for walking the walk.
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If the World Is Complex, We Must Seek Wisdom
If the World Is Complex, We Must Seek WisdomIn this episode of Walk the Walk, Scott McLarty, Head of School at Providence High School, delves into an essential truth: human beings are complex and so is our world.In an age filled with overwhelming information, Scott asserts that complexity isn’t the enemy; rather, it plays a fundamental role in how we navigate our experiences.He uses his favorite metaphor – food – to illustrate that even the simplest dishes, like a Caprese salad, are rich in layers of complexity and connection. He reflects that wisdom goes beyond mere knowledge, encompassing the ability to navigate a complex world while being guided by timeless values: compassion, dignity, justice, excellence, and integrity.To cultivate wisdom amid life's challenges, he shares five practical strategies: 1. Pause Before We React: Reflecting can lead to more thoughtful responses. 2. Ask Deeper Questions: Consider asking, “What truly matters in this situation?”3. Seek Out Diverse Perspectives: Engaging with a variety of viewpoints can foster a supportive culture.4. Ask “Is this true?” and “How do I know it is true?”: Examining the narratives we create can lead to greater clarity and insight.5. Learn from Wisdom Figures and Traditions: Drawing on lessons from the past and present offers valuable guidance in navigating complexities.As the episode wraps up, Scott invites listeners to approach complexity with curiosity and wonder - rather than fear - exploring how wisdom can empower us to thrive in an ever-evolving world.Please visit www.providencehigh.org/walkthewalk to join our mailing list and become a part of the ongoing conversation. Walk the Walk can be found on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, LinkedIn – or wherever you listen. Please support us by liking and subscribing. Thanks for walking the walk.
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If the World Is Uncertain, We Must Get Curious
If the World Is Uncertain, We Must Get CuriousIn this episode of Walk the Walk, Scott McLarty, Head of School at Providence High School, addresses the profound truth that life is filled with uncertainties. Drawing upon Stoic philosophy and psychological research, he emphasizes that uncertainty is not merely a modern-day glitch but an inherent part of life. In a world where technology often creates the illusion of control, Scott invites listeners to confront uncertainty as an opportunity for growth and curiosity. He explores how embracing this perspective can transform fear into wonder and remind us that every challenge presents an opportunity to invoke our inner resources.To cultivate curiosity in the face of uncertainty, Scott outlines four practical strategies for engaging with the world on a deeper level:1. Ask “What else might be true?” - Encouraging the exploration of multiple perspectives to enrich our understanding.2. Make Friends With Not Knowing - Emphasizing the growth that comes from embracing uncertainty and modeling confidence in vulnerability.3. Expose Yourself to Difference - Highlighting the value of seeking diverse opinions to cultivate empathy and community health.4. Follow Your Wonder, Not Your Worry - Redirecting energy from fear to curiosity, fostering a mindset of exploration.Scott concludes with the powerful reminder that our questions are not signs of doubt but essential expressions of life itself. By connecting curiosity to faith, he emphasizes how this powerful combination can empower us to navigate life's complexities with confidence and grace.Please visit www.providencehigh.org/walkthewalk to join our mailing list and become a part of the ongoing conversation.Walk the Walk can be found on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, LinkedIn – or wherever you listen. Please support us by liking and subscribing. Thanks for walking the walk.
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Homa Tavangar
In this episode of Walk the Walk, Scott McLarty, Head of School at Providence High School, engages in a thought-provoking conversation with Homa Tavangar, co-founder of the Big Questions Institute.Together, they dive into transformative learning opportunities that educators and organizations can harness to navigate an unpredictable future through fearless inquiry.Homa dives into the essential skills needed to thrive in today’s chaotic world, focusing on creativity, curiosity, and community. She highlights the power of asking big questions and the importance of adaptability and resilience in uncertain times, emphasizing the need for innovative practices in education.The episode explores several key themes: Navigating Uncertainty: Highlighting how educators can effectively manage the complexities of today's evolving landscape. Cultivating Inquiry: Discussing strategies that foster deep engagement and critical thinking in learners. Transformative Practices: Offering practical approaches for integrating transformative learning into educational institutions. Their discussion also revisits the frameworks of VUCA (Volatile, Uncertain, Complex, Ambiguous) and BANI (Brittle, Anxious, Non-linear, Incomprehensible), and how understanding them can be helpful for navigating modern complexities with greater clarity. Scott and Homa conclude by reflecting on how listeners can pave the way for future generations. By embracing curiosity, striving to be good ancestors, and framing the next generation as civilization builders, we can take on the big questions together. Please visit www.providencehigh.org/walkthewalk to join our mailing list and become a part of the ongoing conversation. Walk the Walk can be found on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, LinkedIn – or wherever you listen. Please support us by liking and subscribing. Thanks for walking the walk.
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If the World Is Volatile, We Must Ground Ourselves
If the World Is Volatile, We Must Ground Ourselves In this episode of Walk the Walk, Scott McLarty, Head of School at Providence High School, explores the essential practice of grounding ourselves in a world increasingly marked by volatility. As news cycles quicken and technology evolves at a relentless pace, Scott urges listeners to reconsider how we can cultivate stability amid uncertainty. This episode delves into the concept of grounding, drawing from Brené Brown’s insights in Strong Ground, where she argues that true stability not only offers resilience but also fosters the ability to embrace change. Scott highlights the detrimental effects of the "attention economy," which can distract us from our sense of grounding, underscoring the urgent need for mindfulness as a countermeasure, as emphasized by neuroscientist Amishi Jha. To offer practical guidance, Scott presents five foundational practices to help listeners root themselves in their daily lives: 1. Return to Rituals: Emphasizing the importance of daily rituals to create stabilizing routines. 2. Feel Our Feet: Encouraging physical reconnection to reinforce our awareness of the present moment. 3. Re-root in Values: Advocating for value-driven decision-making to ensure our actions contribute to greater stability for ourselves and others. 4. Practice Joy: Reminding listeners to actively choose joy that provides respite from the chaos. 5. Lean into Community: Highlighting the communal aspect of grounding, where individual stability supports collective balance. Scott invites listeners to pause and reflect on their own grounding practices. He emphasizes that in a rapidly changing world, grounded individuals can create a sense of safety and growth for those around them. Please visit www.providencehigh.org/walkthewalk to join our mailing list and become a part of the ongoing conversation. Walk the Walk can be found on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, LinkedIn – or wherever you listen. Please support us by liking and subscribing. Thanks for walking the walk.
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Who Do We Choose to Be?
Who Do We Choose to Be? In the debut episode of Walk the Walk, Providence High School Head of School Scott McLarty reflects on why conversations about compassion, trust, and purpose matter now more than ever. What began last year as Scott’s 1‑1‑1 — a weekly communication with our community — returns in a new form: a podcast designed to build trust, deepen relationships, and wrestle with questions that matter. Scott emphasizes the need for honest dialogue in our current climate marked by volatility and anxiety, introducing two pivotal frameworks shaping today’s world: VUCA (volatility, uncertainty, complexity, ambiguity) and BANI (brittle, anxious, non-linear, incomprehensible), to illuminate the challenges we face. While these concepts effectively highlight our struggles, they offer no clear pathway forward. That’s where Walk the Walk steps in. In this episode, Scott outlines eight intentional responses — grounding, curiosity, wisdom, paradox, connection, resilience, agility, and mystery — that can help us navigate the in‑between times with purpose and hope. He closes with a simple but powerful question for listeners: When the world feels volatile, what helps you stay grounded? Please visit www.providencehigh.org/walkthewalk to join our mailing list and become a part of the ongoing conversation. Walk the Walk can be found on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, LinkedIn – or wherever you listen. Please support us by liking and subscribing. Thanks for walking the walk.
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Walk the Walk isn’t your typical education podcast. It rethinks the assumptions and expectations of traditional schooling. Hosted by Scott McLarty, Head of Providence High School, each episode flips the script with bold conversations that challenge the status quo. From trailblazers in diverse fields to leaders across all industries, Scott and his guests explore how learning isn’t just about knowing, it’s about doing; it’s about shaping character, leadership, and community in ways that matter. Let’s walk the walk, together.
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Walk the Walk isn’t your typical education podcast. It rethinks the assumptions and expectations of traditional schooling. Hosted by Scott McLarty, Head of Providence High School, each episode flips the script with bold conversations that challenge the status quo. From trailblazers in diverse fields to leaders across all industries, Scott and his guests explore how learning isn’t just about knowing, it’s about doing; it’s about shaping character, leadership, and community in ways that matter. Let’s walk the walk, together.
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