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What goes up, must come down.

Join us as we explore the world of Carbon Dioxide Removal (CDR)—the tech, the policies, and the big questions shaping its future. Our episodes break down everything from cutting-edge solutions to the roadblocks ahead, featuring expert insights and real talk on what it takes to scale carbon removal. Tune in and get the inside scoop on the race to net-zero!

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    EP 13 Defining quality standards for CDR with Stacy Kauk

    In this episode of What Goes Up Must Come Down, Simon is joined by Stacy Kauk, Chief Science Officer at Isometric, a carbon registry. Together, they explore the challenges of scaling a market where buyers do not fully trust what they are buying, suppliers struggle to finance what they are building, and the science is still catching up with the ambition.

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    EP 12 Scaling distributed biochar with Berend De Haas

    In this episode of What Goes Up Must Come Down, Simon is joined by Berend De Haas, co-founder of Carboneers, a distributed biochar supplier in India and Ghana. Together, they explore the challenges of running biochar projects across multiple countries, the impact of Carboneers’ initiatives, and what the future holds for biochar as a carbon removal solution.

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    EP11 Coming compliance markets with Marian Krüger

    In this episode of What Goes Up Must Come Down, Simon is joined by Marian Krüger, founder of Remove, a nonprofit supporting carbon removal startups worldwide. Together, they explore the motivations behind why companies buy carbon removal credits and how compliance will shape the sector’s future.

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    EP10 CDR & Systems thinking with Noah McQueen

    In this episode, Simon Bager, Co-Founder and COO at Klimate, speaks with Noah McQueen, Director of Science and Innovation at Carbon180, about CDR in a systems thinking perspective, geopolitical uncertainties, and resilience systems.

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    E9 The business case for continued climate investments with Sophie Bruusgaard Jewett

    In this episode, host Simon Bager, PhD speaks with Sophie Bruusgaard Jewett from Morescope discuss how sustainability professionals can maintain climate momentum while navigating shifting political priorities and tighter budgets, plus how strategic leadership and innovation play a key role in managing that complexity.    Head to klimate.co/podcast for summaries and guest details.

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    E8 Cost Effective Toolkit for Net Zero with Tobias Sørensen

    In this episode, host Simon Bager, PhD speaks with Tobias Johan Samson from Concito to unpack the true cost and climate benefit of different CO₂ strategies. From permanent underground storage to synthetic aviation fuels (e-fuels), they explore what delivers the most bang for our climate buck.   Head to klimate.co/podcast for summaries and guest details.

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    E7 Exploring the State of CDR with Tank Chen

    In this episode, host Simon Bager (PhD) sits down with Tank Chen, co-founder of CDR.fyi, to delve into the evolving landscape of carbon dioxide removal (CDR). They discuss the significant growth in the CDR market, the role of major corporate players, and the emergence of technologies like biochar and direct air capture. The conversation also highlights regional developments in Asia and the Nordics, offering insights into how different parts of the world are approaching carbon removal. Tune in to understand the challenges and opportunities shaping the future of CDR.   Head to klimate.co/podcast for summaries and guest details.

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    E6 Decoding the latest from SBTi with Alex Schmidt

    In this episode, host Simon Bager (PhD) sits down with Alex Schmidt from Normative to talk about the Science Based Targets initiative’s (SBTi) proposed updates and what they could mean for corporate net-zero strategies. From tightening rules around Scope 3 emissions to the growing role of Beyond Value Chain Mitigation (BVCM), they explore why early investment in carbon removal is becoming more important — and more strategic — than ever. Tune in to understand what’s changing, and why it matters.   Disclaimer: (SBTi) has released the next draft of their new net zero standard since this episode aired.   Head to klimate.co/podcast for summaries and guest details.

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    E5 Scaling Nature-Based Solutions with Ikarus Janzen

    In this episode, host Simon Bager (PhD) sits down with Ikarus Janzen from Varaha to explore the challenges and opportunities of scaling nature-based carbon removal solutions. They discuss how reforestation, soil carbon, and other natural methods can be scaled effectively, the policies needed to support them, and the role of businesses in driving impact. Can nature-based solutions deliver on their promise at scale? Tune in for a deep dive into the future of climate action through nature!   Head to klimate.co/podcast for summaries and guest details.

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    E4 Exploring EU Policy with Elisabeth Harding

    Host Simon Bager (PhD) from Klimate chats with Elisabeth Harding, Policy Manager at the Negative Emissions Platform (NEP), about the policies shaping Europe’s path to net zero. They break down what’s working, what’s not, and what it all means for businesses, climate action, and the future of carbon markets. With big targets on the table, how can policy turn ambition into impact? Tune in for a deep dive into the EU’s role in the fight against climate change!   Head to klimate.co/podcast for summaries and guest details.

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    E3 Nature-Based Solutions with Kahlil Baker

    Host Simon Bager (PhD) from Klimate chats with Kahlil Baker, CEO of Taking Root, about how carbon removal can drive real change for communities. They dive into the power of reforestation, how smallholder farmers are reshaping the carbon market, and why financing resilience is key to scaling impact. Can carbon projects be both profitable and ethical? Tune in for an inspiring take on climate action that’s making a difference from the ground up!   Head to klimate.co/podcast for summaries and guest details.

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    E2 Carbon Credits & Credence Goods with Donna Lee

    In this episode, host Simon Bager (PhD) from Klimate teams up with Donna Lee, Co-founder of Calyx Global, to break down carbon credits and why they’re considered credence goods. Can we really trust them? How do we ensure real impact? They dive into the challenges of verification, the need for transparency, and what it takes to build a credible carbon market. Don’t miss this deep dive into the future of carbon credits and their role in real climate action!   Head to klimate.co/podcast for summaries and guest details.

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    E1 CDR Policy & Perceptions with Sebastian Manhart

    Join host Simon Bager (PhD) from Klimate and Sebastian Manhart from CarbonFuture as they dive into the world of Carbon Dioxide Removal (CDR). From policy hurdles to public perception, they break down what it takes to scale CDR and make a real impact on climate change. How do we fund it? Who’s responsible? And will the world get on board? Tune in for a lively discussion on the challenges, opportunities, and future of CDR in the race to net zero!   Head to klimate.co/podcast for summaries and guest details.

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Join us as we explore the world of Carbon Dioxide Removal (CDR)—the tech, the policies, and the big questions shaping its future. Our episodes break down everything from cutting-edge solutions to the roadblocks ahead, featuring expert insights and real talk on what it takes to scale carbon removal. Tune in and get the inside scoop on the race to net-zero!

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