What if it Works

In this episode, KC Gooding, CMO of Jaywalker Lodge, shares how their Carbondale, Colorado program blends authentic recovery experiences with clinical care to build lasting sobriety through community—while helping people build a life in recovery that's actually fun and worth living. KC reflects on his personal recovery journey, his path in behavioral healthcare, and the events he's created—like the Recovery Open and Winter Leadership Symposium—to bring people together in recovery. A powerful conversation on recovery, connection, and even a little bit of electronic music!

We're kicking off Season 2 with Jason Wahler! We talk all things recovery, family, life in Nashville, and faith. Not gonna lie—he said this was one of his favs, and you won't want to miss it.

On episode 13, we sit down with Steve Turney of Turn Productions discussing mental health marketing, the evolving landscape of live events, and the lost art of a key change. Tune in to hear more!

The word on the street at Hansei was that Rodolfo is a star in the making. We did an interview and to find out for ourselves. The verdict is out, Rodolfo is a superstar!!! Tune in to hear about his passion for performance, dance, people and entertaining. As said by Jacy Zay in "No Name Superstar" it won't be long - soon they all will know just who you are, you're a No Name Superstar. 

Meet our dear friend, Kaitlin Pickrel - better known as KP! When she finishes her workday as a public relations extrodinaire, you can find her winning a tennis match, hosting a dinner party, or traveling the world. Tune in to hear more about how KP became KPR. 

On Episode 10 of What if it Works, we sit down with Patrick Dunn, and talk about the many hats he wears as a clinician, equine therapist, operator and more. 

Your hosts, Jacy and Carli, are back in action. They discuss National Recovery Month, Miles for Mental Health, Amazon conspiracy theories and more. 

In this episode, we sit down with the one and only Alexxis Ames—a founding force at Hansei and the go-to brain behind the operation. From cosmetology school to home building to behavioral health, Alexxis walks us through her nonlinear career path and the bold move of buying a house in Tennessee without ever stepping foot there. We talk about embracing curiosity, her "never stop learning" mindset, and the beauty of leading while still figuring it out—because sometimes, it's the blind leading the blind. If you've ever felt like you're winging it but still showing up, this one's for you.

In this episode, we sit down with our good friend Joey Darby, Chief Growth Officer at Cumberland Heights. We've known Joey for years, watching him navigate the ever-evolving behavioral health industry—an industry he accidentally stumbled into nearly 20 years ago. We talk about his journey, the big move from California to Tennessee (which included selling his beloved Airstream—a huge deal if you know Joey), and what he's learned along the way. Join us for a candid conversation about growth, change, and the unexpected paths that lead us to where we're meant to be.

In this episode, we're hanging out with our awesome friend and colleague, Adam, as he takes us on a wild ride through one of the biggest pivots of his life — packing up and moving across the country after 30 years in his hometown. We dive into everything from navigating relationships and leaning into vulnerability to finding strength in discomfort. With plenty of awkward moments and major breakthroughs along the way, Adam's story is packed with heart, humor, and inspiring growth.

In this episode, we're honored to welcome our dear friend Kaitlin Wernet Miller as she opens up about her personal journey through chronic pain—a rollercoaster of emotions filled with frustration, hope, countless questions, and far too few answers. Together, we explore the common thread of chronic pain that connects so many, the importance of self-advocacy, and how building a supportive community can make all the difference. Kaitlin is also the author of The Book of Comforts, a beautifully designed devotional offering genuine encouragement for those navigating grief. Through Scripture and personal reflections, it provides a meaningful way to process loss and find hope. Grab your copy here: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/Book-Comforts-Genuine-Encouragement-Times/dp/0310452066 

In this episode, we chat with Brittany Hines, Director of Product for Hansei's EMR, Benji. Brittany takes us through her unexpected journey into behavioral health - marked by addiction, career pivots, and plenty of "winging it" moments. As a dedicated career woman and single parent, Brittany explains how her life mantra became: what you don't change, you choose. Brittany's story is one of resilience, adaptability, and adding undeniable value both at home and in the office. 

In this episode, we get to know the voices behind the mic, Carli and Jacy! They share their unique journeys into the behavioral healthcare space, revealing the unexpected twists, bold moves, and a bit of 'winging it in corporate America' that led them to Hansei. Join us for a candid conversation as they reflect on how they got to where they are today—even if they're still not quite sure how it all happened.

In this episode, we chat with Matt Nannis, Founder & Executive Director of PivotPoint, an Asheville, NC based therapeutic adventure program for those facing mental health and substance abuse challenges. He shares his personal recovery journey and how one pivotal mindset shift and action in sober living inspired the creation of PivotPoint.   About Pivot Point:  https://pivotpointwnc.org    Follow us on social media: Instagram: @what_if_it_works_pod TikTok: @what_if_it_works     

In this episode we talk about Erin's accidental beginnings that have turned into purposeful leadership. Erin is the visionary founder behind Hansei Solutions, and we dive into her personal path that led into her career and the unplanned launch of Hansei.