Drew and Dan in the Morning

Drew and Dan break down real-world software development—what’s working, what’s not, and where things are going. Topics range from app development and AI to conference takeaways (Deep Dish Swift), technical deep dives, and the occasional detour into reverse engineering and industry absurdities. Practical, opinionated, and grounded in actual experience.Chapters00:00 Hello!06:13 App Development and AI11:58 Deep Dish Swift Conference19:04 Technical Insights and Challenges26:10 Reverse Engineering and Humorous PresentationsFinding Drew:BlueskyX / TwitterFinding Dan:BlueskyInstagramLinks for things mentioned in this episode:Dan’s new Swift blog, Certainly SwiftDrew’s YouTube live stream coding channel, @DrewBensonCodes9 to 5 Mac’s story on 4-star reviews:App Store ratings ‘broken’ as your 4-star review could hurt a developerDan’s social check-in (and Swarm replacement) app,, The MidstRelay Team Finder - releasing in August  - for Aspiring FinishersDeep Dish Swift 2026Adam Tow and his great talk on being adaptable, The Long Game: 30+ Years as an Indie Apple DeveloperDavid Beck’s talk, Surviving in Low ConnectivityChad Etzel’s awesome talk on Reverse Engineering the macOS Genie AnimationDrew and Dan in the Morning can be found on:Apple PodcastsSpotifyYouTubeOvercastThanks for joining us!