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Eco Punks
by Eco Punks LLC
Eco Punks are people who are interested in understanding and engaging ecosystems. We host improvised conversations that explore subjects and concepts in an accessible and entertaining manner. These include salons which are larger group discussions, as well as interviews which are smaller and more focused.
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Participatory Cybersecurity
From Cyber-Fortresses to Open Gates: Why Participatory Cybersecurity is the FutureImagine a medieval castle, its towering walls manned by a select few, valiantly defending against a relentless siege. This, unfortunately, has been the prevailing metaphor for cybersecurity for far too long. Experts, wielding arcane tools and impenetrable jargon, have patrolled the digital perimeter, while users remained passive targets, occasionally bombarded with dry "awareness training" pamphlets. This model, demonstrably flawed, has left us vulnerable in a rapidly evolving cyber landscape. It's time to dismantle the fortress and embrace a new paradigm: participatory cybersecurity.The shift is urgent. Users are no longer bystanders; they are the ground troops on the digital battlefield. Phishing emails land in their inboxes, malware hides in seemingly harmless downloads, and social engineering attacks exploit their trust. Blaming them for falling prey is not only ineffective but also fundamentally unfair. Instead, we must empower them, acknowledging their unique role in the defense.This empowerment starts with demystifying the battlefield. Ditch the jargon! Talk about suspicious links, not "man-in-the-middle attacks." Explain data breaches in terms of privacy, not encryption algorithms. Make cybersecurity relevant and relatable, not an arcane ritual performed by tech wizards.Furthermore, policies cannot remain top-down edicts. Imagine security being built through collaboration, not imposition. Open forums, participatory workshops, and user feedback loops can craft inclusive and democratic policies that everyone understands and owns. Imposed rules breed resentment and bypasses; shared ownership fosters agreement and compliance.This participatory approach becomes even more critical as Artificial Intelligence (AI) reshapes the cyber landscape. Malicious AI can launch sophisticated attacks, while benevolent AI can be a powerful defense tool. But both scenarios demand a cyber-literate populace capable of critically assessing threats and opportunities. AI is not magic; it's complex code with vulnerabilities. Only widespread understanding can prevent its misuse and harness its potential for good.Participatory cybersecurity is not a utopian ideal; it's a strategic necessity. By engaging users, fostering literacy, and building democratic defenses, we can create a more resilient and inclusive digital ecosystem. The walls of the old fortress are crumbling, leaving us vulnerable. Let's build a future where everyone, not just a select few, plays an active role in protecting the digital world we all share. Remember, security is not just a technical problem; it's a human problem. Let's solve it together, one empowered user at a time.This shift demands a multi-pronged approach:Education: Gamified learning modules, interactive workshops, and engaging online resources can make cybersecurity education fun and accessible, fostering a culture of lifelong learning.Incentives: Rewarding users for reporting suspicious activity or completing security training can encourage participation and gamify the process.Empowerment: Providing users with tools and resources to identify and mitigate risks empowers them to take ownership of their security posture.Community Building: Fostering online communities and forums where users can share experiences, ask questions, and learn from each other creates a supportive network of engaged individuals.By dismantling the old model and embracing participatory cybersecurity, we can build a future where...
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Town Hall on AI Ethics
AI as a Common Tool: The discussion challenges the notion that AI is a complex, inaccessible technology used only by experts. Instead, it's presented as a ubiquitous part of everyday life, exemplified by platforms like Facebook. This perspective encourages people to recognize their daily interactions with AI, demystifying the technology and making it more approachable for the general public.Public Entitlement to AI Ethics: The conversation advocates for public participation in shaping AI ethics, emphasizing that as users of AI, people have the right to voice their opinions on its use. This includes discussing the ethical boundaries, purposes, and development focus of AI, ensuring that it aligns with societal values and needs.AI's Evolution and Public Perception: Reflecting on AI's evolution, the discussion highlights how public perception, often shaped by myths and hype, influences the conversation around AI. It suggests that demystifying AI and educating the public about its true nature and capabilities is crucial for informed discourse on AI ethics.AI and Data Processing: AI is defined as a system that processes data to generate content, make decisions, or predictions. This definition, rooted in the Canadian government's perspective, is explored to clarify AI's function as a data processor, countering the myth of AI as an all-knowing, omnipotent entity.Ethical Concerns and AI's Impact: Participants raise various ethical concerns, such as AI's role in surveillance and data privacy, and the potential for its misuse. The discussion also touches on AI's impact on creative fields like art, acknowledging the technology's potential to both enhance creativity and raise copyright issues.AI, Power Dynamics, and Accessibility: The conversation delves into the power dynamics surrounding AI, questioning who has access to these technologies and how they are disproportionately used to benefit certain groups. This part of the discussion underscores the need for equitable access and use of AI.AI's Environmental Impact: The significant energy consumption of AI technologies is a critical concern. The discussion links AI's environmental footprint to broader issues of sustainability, highlighting the need for environmentally responsible AI development and use.Future of AI and Public Involvement: Finally, the participants emphasize the importance of public involvement in shaping the future of AI. They discuss ways to collectively influence AI development to ensure it serves the public good, aligns with human rights, and reflects societal values.Each of these points contributes to a comprehensive understanding of AI's role in society, underscoring the importance of ethical considerations, public education, and involvement in shaping the future of AI technologies.https://ecopunks.live
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Can Organizations Cultivate Wisdom?
The following episode presents a deep dive into the concept of wisdom, examining it from historical, philosophical, and psychological perspectives. The participants engage in a thought-provoking discussion about how wisdom can be understood and applied in today's world, especially in relation to AI and human intelligence.The Philosophical Roots of Wisdom: Tracing Wisdom from Socrates to the Modern AgeUnderstanding Wisdom: The discussion begins with an exploration of what wisdom means. David Ryan references philosophical perspectives from Socrates, who believed that realizing one's own ignorance is the root of wisdom, and Aristotle, who linked wisdom with virtuosity.Historical Perspectives on Wisdom: The conversation touches on the evolution of the concept of wisdom, from theological views, exemplified by the story of Solomon, to philosophical and psychological approaches in understanding wisdom.The Berlin Wisdom Project: The Five Pillars of WisdomDavid Ryan introduces the Berlin Wisdom Project, a multi-generational study by psychologist Paul Baltes, which proposes a framework for understanding wisdom. This framework includes five components: vast procedural knowledge, factual knowledge, lifespan contextualism, relativism of values and attitudes, and acceptance of change.Rich Factual Knowledge: This refers to an extensive understanding of the conditions of life and human affairs. It encompasses knowledge about human nature, social relations, and the various aspects of living such as work, family, and community. It's not just about having facts but understanding the context and complexities of human life.Rich Procedural Knowledge: This criterion focuses on strategies and heuristics for dealing with life's challenges. It includes knowledge about how to make decisions, how to resolve conflicts, and how to provide advice. It's about knowing the processes and methods for handling life's various problems effectively.Lifespan Contextualism: This aspect of wisdom involves understanding the temporal (life-span) context of life and human development. It recognizes that life is a process, with each stage having its own realities and challenges. Lifespan contextualism involves understanding these changes and how they impact human behavior and decisions.Relativism of Values and Life Priorities: Wisdom, according to this criterion, involves recognizing and respecting the diversity of values and life priorities that exist in human society. It's about understanding that different people have different perspectives and that these perspectives are shaped by their cultural, social, and individual experiences.Recognition and Management of Uncertainty: This criterion acknowledges that life is uncertain and full of unpredictability. A wise person understands this and knows how to deal with uncertainty. This involves recognizing the limits of one's knowledge, being open to new information, and being able to adapt to changing circumstances.Wisdom as a Competitive Advantage in the Corporate WorldApplying the Berlin Wisdom Paradigm to organizations involves integrating its five criteria into the organizational culture, processes, and leadership. Here's how an organization can cultivate wisdom using this framework:Rich Factual Knowledge: Organizations should foster a deep understanding of their industry, clients, and the broader societal context in which they operate. This involves not just gathering data but also interpreting it to understand complex market dynamics, human behaviors, and social trends. Encouraging continuous learning and staying abreast of developments in their field can help in building this knowledge...
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The Future of Internet Trust: Creating Systems for Verified and Secure Interactions
https://www.cira.ca/en/resources/documents/state-of-internet/a-trust-layer-for-the-internet-is-emerging-a-2023-report/ “A trust layer for the internet is emerging,” a report by CIRA and Continuum Loop, argues that pairing technical trust (e.g., encryption and signing) and human trust (e.g., governance) enables a trust layer to emerge. This allows the Internet community to create trustworthy digital ecosystems and rebuild trust in the Internet as a whole. The report highlights that the Internet currently lacks this trust layer, and while we can build individual systems that have reasonably good security, we lack a shared framework and the set of tools needed to ensure trustworthy systems exist across all aspects of the internet. The report suggests that by harnessing and creating new standards for both technical and human trust, we can create an interoperable, deeply trustworthy Internet to carry us into the next phases of its use. One of the co-authors Jacques Latour, the CTO of CIRA will be joins us for a deep dive into trust and the Internet. The conversation revolves around the concept of trust in a democratic society and how it should be integrated into the internet's infrastructure.Key Points from the Discussion:1. **Trust in the Internet's Early Days**: Initially, the internet, built on TCP/IP, lacked security and trust by design. Today, billions of users operate on an internet where the core protocol doesn't inherently include trust.2. **Vision for a Trusted Internet**: The goal is to create a trusted internet where users can confidently interact with online resources. This involves addressing gaps in the current system and working towards a future where human trust is integral to internet interactions.3. **Trust Over IP and Digital Trust**: The concept of Trust Over IP involves creating a framework where trust is embedded at all layers of the internet. This includes technical and governance aspects, ensuring that interactions are trustworthy.4. **Human Trust vs. Technical Trust**: Trust is evolving from just encrypting data to ensuring human trust in online interactions. This means verifying the authenticity of the entities users interact with online.5. **Trust Registries**: The discussion introduces the concept of trust registries, which are lists of trusted entities within a digital ecosystem. These registries are governed and provide a way to verify the authenticity of digital credentials and content.6. **Challenges and Future Directions**: The conversation touches on the challenges of establishing trust online, especially in the context of AI and generated media. The future of trust on the internet involves creating systems where users can verify the authenticity of their interactions and the information they receive.7. **Governance and Technology in Building Trust**: The integration of governance and technology is crucial in building a trusted internet. This involves public education, policy work, and creating conditions where trust can be established and...
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What really happens to how we think as we age?
We are taking on the relationship between aging and cognition in our next installment in our series on Aging, “What really happens to how we think as we age?” Maybe, despite what you’ve heard, the news isn’t all bad?Here's a summary of the main points discussed:1. **Growth and Decline in Aging**: The panel discusses the dual aspects of growth and decline that occur with aging. While the decline, especially in fluid intelligence (speed of processing and learning new things), is often emphasized, the panel highlights the importance of recognizing areas of growth and maintenance in cognitive abilities.2. **Crystallized Intelligence**: It's noted that crystallized intelligence, which is the accumulation of knowledge, remains relatively stable with age. This stability contrasts with the decline in fluid intelligence and episodic memory.3. **Learning as a Lifelong Process**: The conversation emphasizes the concept of lifelong learning. The panel challenges the notion that education and learning are exclusively for the young, advocating for the recognition of continuous learning throughout all life stages.4. **Impact of Gender on Cognition and Aging**: The panel explores how gender might influence the aging process, particularly in relation to cognition. They discuss whether the mind, extending beyond the brain to include bodily experiences, might be affected differently in men and women.5. **Technology and Aging**: The role of technology in augmenting or supporting cognitive abilities in older age is discussed. The panel considers how technology can be both a tool for assistance and a barrier, depending on individual comfort and motivation with technology.6. **Motivation and Problem-Solving in Older Adults**: The importance of motivation in learning and adapting to new challenges is highlighted. The panel shares stories and examples of older adults who actively engage in problem-solving and adapting to new situations, demonstrating the capacity for growth and adaptation at any age.7. **Social Aspects of Aging and Cognition**: The discussion touches on the social aspects of aging, including how social interactions and relationships can influence cognitive processes and the experience of aging.8. **Education and Cognitive Tools for Aging**: The panel discusses the role of education in providing cognitive tools and supports to help older adults maintain cognitive function. They emphasize the need for educational approaches that cater to the unique needs and experiences of older adults.This video provides a comprehensive exploration of the cognitive aspects of aging, challenging stereotypes and highlighting the potential for growth, learning, and adaptation throughout the lifespan.
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Exploring AI, Ethics, and the Commons
Title: Navigating the Digital Commons: AI, Ethics, and the Future of Community Engagement#### Part 1: Understanding the Commons and AI's Role- The episode begins with an exploration of the commons, a concept of shared resources and spaces.- Discussion on the Tragedy of the Commons and its modern interpretation in the context of AI and digital resources.- The paradox of AI in the digital commons: While AI can optimize resource use, it also risks depleting shared digital resources.#### Part 2: AI, Copyright, and the Transformation of the Digital Commons- AI's impact on traditional notions of copyright, paralleling the Napster era's disruption of music sharing.- Concerns about AI as a potential tool for plagiarism and its implications for content creation.- The role of open-source AI tools and their impact on creative industries.#### Part 3: Ethical Considerations and AI's Impact on Society- The need for ethical considerations in AI usage, particularly in education and academia.- The exclusivity of AI and challenges in achieving inclusive governance.- The importance of diverse, decentralized, and participatory approaches to developing ethical frameworks in the digital age.#### Part 4: AI's Impact on Writing, Communication, and Artistic Value- Concerns about AI replacing human roles in writing and communications.- Rethinking the value of artists' work in the age of AI.- The necessity of developing new ethical frameworks for AI, focusing on inclusivity and critical thinking.#### Part 5: Concluding Reflections on AI Ethics and Governance- The importance of diverse opinions in ethical discussions and the potential dominance of privileged groups.- Advocating for ethical frameworks beyond Western perspectives, including feminist approaches.- The "Each one teach one" model as away to spread ethical literacy and awareness about AI.- The significance of immersive experiences in understanding AI's capabilities and biases.- The episode concludes with a call for future exploration into the ethics of AI and the future of the commons in an ecologically conscious society.**Key Takeaways:**- **AI's Dual Role**: AI presents both opportunities for optimizing the use of shared digital resources and risks of exacerbating the digital Tragedy of the Commons.- **Copyright and Creativity**: The rise of AI challenges traditional copyright norms, potentially transforming the digital commons into a space of shared, open-source creativity.- **Ethical Imperatives**: The discussion underscores the need for inclusive, diverse, and participatory approaches to AI ethics, moving beyond traditional frameworks.- **Impact on Professional Fields**: AI's potential to automate tasks in writing, communications, and other creative fields raises questions about the future role of human professionals.- **Educational Focus**: There's a strong emphasis on the need for ethical education in AI, advocating for a curriculum that encourages experimentation and critical engagement with AI technologies.- **Diverse Ethical Perspectives**: The conversation highlights the importance of incorporating a variety of ethical viewpoints, including non-Western and feminist ethics, in discussions about AI.- **Community Engagement**: The panelists advocate for decentralized, community-based discussions on AI ethics, emphasizing the "Each one teach one" model for spreading awareness and literacy.This episode of Eco Punks offers a rich and multifaceted exploration of the intersections between AI, ethics, and the commons. It calls for continued dialogue and engagement on these critical issues, highlighting the need for thoughtful consideration and action in shaping the future of our digital society.
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NewMode: AI and Activism
Steve Anderson and the Eco Punks engage in a deep discussion about the use of AI in advocacy, the challenges of navigating the political landscape with AI tools, and the importance of aligning technology with social responsibility and public benefit.
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Jess Vaillancourt and Bee Your Creative Styles
Ecosystems acknowledge intersections between connected areas. As a curated consignment retailer, Jess Vaillancourt business (Bee Your Creative Styles) sits at a really interesting intersection between clothing Upcyclers/Recyclers and Vintage Aficionados, as well as other members of the Sustainable Fashion movement. She also provides a physical meeting place in Ottawa's Sandy Hill community for Tuesday Mend Nights. There are very grass roots elements that Jess can speak to about strengthening a community ecosystem. There are also elements at play that impact aspects of our broader ecosystems. This episode was produced by Chris Irwin and features Jeanette Herrle, Murley Herrle-Fanning, and Jesse Hirsh.https://www.instagram.com/beeyoucreativestyles/https://www.beeyoucreativestyles.com/https://ecopunks.livehttps://gazette.ecopunks.live
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Ageism and Misperceptions of Ageing
Jan Lemke, Scott Suthren, Jeanette Herrle, and Sherida Ryan discuss the dynamics of ageing and what it means to live in an ageist society.
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Salon: Open Source and the Mozilla Foundation
Mark Surman from the Mozilla Foundation joins us to discuss the current state of the open source movement. Participants included Jan Lemke, Jesse Hirsh, Scott Suthren, Sumit Bhatia, Vass Bednar, Murley Herrle-Fanning, Oksana Hoshva, David Ryan, Sherida Ryan, and Andrea Ostrowksi.Links mentioned by Mark: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4543807 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Californian_Ideology https://open.mozilla.org/letter/ https://www.fastcompany.com/90992180/this-is-the-right-lesson-to-take-from-the-openai-debacle https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/insights/trustworthy-ai-whitepaper/https://ecopunks.livehttps://gazette.ecopunks.live
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Tesla's Self-driving Delusions
We discuss Tesla's historic recall and what it tells us about self-driving technology, autonomous cars, and responsibility. This episode features Jan Lemke, Greg Majster, Sherida Ryan, David Ryan, and Jesse Hirshhttps://ecopunks.livehttps://gazette.ecopunks.live
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Celebrating Aging
Jan Lemke and David Ryan initiate our ongoing series on the joy of aging and why we need to rethink our relationship with time.https://ecopunks.live
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WTF is up with Elon Musk?!
Jesse Hirsh and Jan Lemke discuss Elon Musk and his increasingly erratic and controversial behaviour. Is he sabotaging his business empire or shifting over to a political empire? Does he see the writing on the wall as the far right rises, or is he just an opportunist who sees profit in extremism?https://ecopunks.livehttps://gazette.ecopunks.live
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The politics and future of sponsorship
Sports, music, art, almost all of our contemporary culture depends upon sponsorship to sustain themselves and their operations. Yet at what cost? We explore the fluidity of trust and reputation in the larger industry of sponsorship and endorsements. Participants included Jesse Hirsh, Jan Lemke, and Chris Irwin.https://ecopunks.livehttps://gazette.ecopunks.live
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The Religion of OpenAI?
The governance conflict at OpenAI suggests that the internal disputes are more theological than ideological. Focused on the belief that AI may soon be sentient, and that it will be smarter and more powerful than humans. Legitimate science or pseudo spirituality? Eco Punks Jesse Hirsh, Jan Lemke, and Scott Suthren discuss and debate the potential divinity of OpenAI.https://ecopunks.livehttps://gazette.ecopunks.live
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Salon: The Pandemic of Rudeness?
Many industries are in crisis due to the increasing rudeness and incivility that many people are expressing towards front line staff. In this context, the labour shortage is not just a demographic issue, but more about workers being fed up and not taking it anymore. From healthcare, to retail, restaurants, and hotels, people are taking out their issues on workers and anyone else they can yell at. What’s up with that, and more importantly want can be done?It’s not just rudeness, but a growing trend of public outbursts. People losing their shit for both legitimate and entirely made up reasons. Add to this a near ubiquity of smart phones and one person’s meltdown is fodder for clicks and lulz.We can and should call this what it is, symptoms of a larger mental health crisis. However that only opens a larger conversation on what we ought to do in response. What supports should be in place, both for workers, but also people who are in need of help? Is the issue rudeness, or could we describe this as misguided civil disobedience? Is making a scene in public new, or is the recording and sharing of it what is new? Instead of each of us getting 15 seconds of fame, are we now promised 15 seconds of public rage?Participants included: Jesse Hirsh, Jan Lemke, Jeanette Herrle, Chris Irwin, Jens Tathoff, Andrea Ostrowski, David Ryan, Michael Sansolo, Scott Suthren, and Gunnar Brune.https://ecopunks.livehttps://gazette.ecopunks.live
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No More Heroes: OpenAI?
Jesse Hirsh and Jan Lemke discuss the drama at OpenAI and what it means for the larger society vis a vis AI and Governance.Eco Punks GazetteEco Punks
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Salon: Exploring the Ecosystems of Digital Platforms
Social media platforms are seemingly in flux as their role and influence in our society is changing. Whether the implosion and transformation of Twitter, or the ongoing rise of TikTok, the disruptors are now being disrupted. What does this mean for the larger attention ecosystems? What about the power of digital platforms? Similarly, many of us Eco Punks are wrapping our heads and chatbots around LinkedIn, and how to best leverage a platform that many of us passively or actively ignored for well over a decade. It raises the question, what are the best practices for specific platforms, or conversely, are these platforms as much about timing as tactics and strategy? As Jens likes to point out, where does narrative and branding come in, especially when stretched across several stages? Participants included: Jesse Hirsh, Jan Lemke, Jens Tathoff, Murley Herrle-Fanning, David Ryan, Sherida Ryan, Andrea Ostrowski, Silke Nunn, Christian Hedel, Lynn Chow, Rob Harvie, and Greg MajsterEco Punks GazetteEco Punks
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Salon: Getting in Touch
Salon: Getting in Touch Have you ever wondered why we promise each other to stay in touch or get in touch, why we talk about being in touch with something or someone, and never ever say “I’ll stay in sight.”, “I really need to get in taste with myself.”, “Thanks for getting in smell.” or “I’ll get in sound with my mother tomorrow?” As with everything when it comes to language, there must be a reason for why it is touch that we keep referring to. What happens, what is the sensation and the magic that goes beyond the purely sensory experience and lead us to give touch that role in our vocabulary? Why is it that research has shown that basketball teams whose players touch each other prior to taking a free throw have higher scoring percentages than teams who don’t? Can’t touch this. I’m really touched - what is the magic of touch, and how can we all experience more of it if it is really that important?Participants included: Jesse Hirsh, Jan Lemke, Sherida Ryan, David Ryan, Jeanette Herrle, Murley Herrle-Fanning, Scott Suthren, Andrea Ostrowski, Dean Bentley-Falke, Christian Hedel, Priscilla Gravenhorst, Vasiliki Bednar, and Oksana Hosvha.
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Salon: Mind Meets Matter
The body and mind are one! At least that’s what science is increasingly saying. Forget about Cartesian duality, both the body and mind are far more complicated than previously believed, and their distinction is arguably arbitrary. What are the implications of us embracing the idea that the body and mind are inseparable? Does this mean that mental health and physical health are connected? Are emotions and reason two sides of the same process? Is muscle memory deeper and smarter than previously perceived? Is Western civilization as we know it doomed? Participants included: Jesse Hirsh, Jan Lemke, Sherida Ryan, David Ryan, Jeanette Herrle, Murley Herrle-Fanning, Scott Suthren, Andrea Ostrowski, Dean Bentley-Falke, Christian Hedel, Priscilla Gravenhorst, Vasiliki Bednar, and Oksana Hosvha.Eco Punks GazetteEco Punks
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Salon: Living with Animals
Our salon this week focused on the joy of Living with Animals!Whether you are aware of it or not, we are all living with animals. These could be animals we consider part of our family (pets), or these could be animals we consider a nuisance or threat (pests). Let’s take a moment to reflect on what it means to be living with animals. What are the benefits, what are the costs? How has our relationship with animals changed over the last few years? How might it change as a result of climate change? From farms, to furry friends who sleep in our beds, let’s take a moment to not only reflect on the joy of living with animals, but also what that means for the industries supporting them. For example, did you know the pet food business is the fastest growing segment of agriculture and food production? Participants included: Jesse Hirsh, Jan Lemke, Sherida Ryan, Jeanette Herrle, David Ryan, Andrea Ostrowski, Jens Tathoff, and Murley Herrle-Fanning.For more info see https://ecopunks.liveSubscribe to our newsletter via https://gazette.ecopunks.live
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Salon: What do you think trust is?
Our salon this week focused on trust: what it is, why it is so important, and how it is formed or lost.Participants included: Jesse Hirsh, Jan Lemke, Sherida Ryan, Jeanette Herrle, Greg Majster, David Ryan, Scott Suthren, Andrea Ostrowski, Jens Tathoff, and Oksana Hoshva.For more info see https://ecopunks.liveSubscribe to our newsletter via https://gazette.ecopunks.live
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Eco Punks are people who are interested in understanding and engaging ecosystems. We host improvised conversations that explore subjects and concepts in an accessible and entertaining manner. These include salons which are larger group discussions, as well as interviews which are smaller and more focused.
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