First Chair: PSIA-AASI Podcast

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First Chair: PSIA-AASI Podcast

The First Chair Podcast brings you inspirational stories and educational tips from the country's best ski, snowboard, Nordic, and adaptive instructors. More than 34,000 individuals belong to PSIA-AASI (Professional Ski Instructors of America and American Association of Snowboard Instructors), making it the world’s largest organization dedicated to snowsports. We are lifelong learners committed to changing lives through great experiences on snow. Connect with us to learn more: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thesnowpros Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thesnowpros YouTube: @thesnowpros

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    How to be Successful in Assessment Teaching

    In this episode, host George Thomas sits down with PSIA National Alpine Team member Katie White to bridge the gap between daily client lessons and the high-pressure environment of a teaching assessment. Katie breaks down how to manage the shortened 20-minute "assessment clock" by killing the "canned progression" and moving toward an adaptable, "spiderweb" approach to coaching. This conversation is a must-listen for any instructor looking to elevate their professional game. You’ll learn how to master D.I.R.T. (Duration, Intensity, Rate, and Timing) in a short window, provide specific feedback that proves technical ownership, and manage risk beyond just a verbal safety check. Whether you are prepping for your Level II or Level III, Katie’s insights will help you trade exam anxiety for the technical clarity needed to pass with confidence.

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    The 4mm Miracle: Mastering Binding Position with Lou Rosenfeld

    Stop struggling with your ski technique—the problem might be your bindings! In this episode of First Chair, host George Thomas talks with biomechanics expert Lou Rosenfeld about the "Magic of 4 Millimeters." Many skiers spend months trying to fix their stance, but Lou reveals how moving your binding position just a fraction can instantly put you in a balanced, powerful position. We debunk the "Engineer Myth"—the idea that the factory line on your skis is the only place your boots should go. Lou shares insights from his research with Atomic and Nordica to explain how manufacturers actually pick those marks (and why they might be wrong for you). Whether you're a pro instructor or a weekend warrior, learning how to adjust your mounting point can turn an "unforgiving" ski into your favorite piece of gear. In this video, you’ll learn: - Why the "ball of foot" method still matters in the age of shaped skis. - How binding placement affects your performance in moguls vs. groomed runs. - Why skiers with smaller feet (including many women) are often mounted too far back. - The "12-minute fix" that can save you 12 weeks of frustration on the hill.

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    Why Core Control Is the Secret to Better Turns and Tricks

    What does “core tension” really mean—and how does it impact your skiing and riding? In this episode of First Chair, George Thomas talks with PSIA-AASI National Team member Tony Macri about how core engagement drives balance, stability, and performance across all disciplines. Based on his 32 Degrees article, Tony breaks down how the core goes beyond just your abs, how different types of muscle contractions (concentric, eccentric, isometric) come into play, and how concepts like timing, intensity, rate, and duration shape movement outcomes. From freestyle tricks to carving and riding variable terrain, this episode offers practical ways to use your core more effectively—without overthinking or over-tensing.

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    The “Forward Trap”: Why Getting Forward Isn’t Always Better

    Are you actually too far forward when you ski? In this episode of First Chair, George Thomas talks with PSIA-AASI Alpine Team member Kevin Jordan about the “forward trap”—and why the common cue to “get forward” can sometimes do more harm than good. Based on his 32 Degrees article, Kevin breaks down the difference between “pushing” and “pulling” in your turns, how overdriving the front of the ski can cause the tails to break away, and what it really means to manage pressure throughout the turn. From practical cues to real-world teaching applications, this conversation gives instructors a clearer, more effective way to help guests create better turn shape and ski performance.

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    Performing Under Pressure: Turning Nerves Into Better Teaching

    What happens when pressure shows up—during a certification, a clinic, or even a lesson? In this episode of First Chair, George Thomas sits down with PSIA-AASI member and Intermountain Alpine Development Team member Carmela Olmo to explore how instructors can perform at their best when it matters most. Based on her 32 Degrees article, Performing Under Pressure, Carmela shares how her background in ski racing shaped her approach to nerves, failure, and performance. From using simple performance cues to reframing mistakes as feedback, she breaks down practical strategies instructors can use to stay present, communicate clearly, and trust their training. Whether you're preparing for an assessment or just looking to level up your teaching, this episode offers a clear, actionable mindset for handling pressure on and off the snow.

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    Build Better Lessons: A Smarter Way to Create Progressions

    Want to build better ski and snowboard lessons? This episode breaks down a smarter way to create progressions that actually work for your guests. In this episode of First Chair, George Thomas talks with Scott McGee and Jake Crawford—co-authors of a 32 Degrees article—about how to move beyond the traditional “bag of tricks” approach to teaching. Instead of defaulting to preset drills, they introduce the SSCA framework (Static, Simple, Complex, Applied) as a way to focus on the movement you want to change and build lessons more intentionally. You’ll learn how to use micro vs. macro progressions, when to simplify or increase challenge, and how to let your guests’ performance guide your teaching decisions in real time. Whether you’re a newer instructor or a seasoned pro, this conversation offers a clear, flexible approach to creating more effective, engaging lessons on snow. What You’ll Learn: How to use the SSCA framework (Static, Simple, Complex, Applied) The difference between micro and macro progressions Why the “bag of tricks” approach can hold instructors back How to choose drills based on movement, not habit When to simplify vs. increase challenge in a lesson How to stay student-centered and adapt in real time

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    No Shortcuts: How to Actually Prepare for Your Certification Exam

    Thinking about your PSIA-AASI certification? Here’s how to actually prepare—and what examiners are really looking for. In this episode of First Chair, George Thomas talks with AASI Snowboard Team member Eric Rolls about certification exam preparation, based on his 32 Degrees article. Instead of shortcuts or “cheat codes,” Eric breaks down the real skills that lead to success—on snow and in the assessment environment. You’ll learn how to manage nerves, adapt your teaching in real time, and understand the five success patterns that examiners use to evaluate candidates. Whether you’re preparing for Level II, Level III, or supporting other instructors, this episode gives you a clear, practical framework to approach your next assessment with confidence. What You’ll Learn: - The 5 success patterns for certification success - How to handle nerves and recover from mistakes - What examiners are actually assessing - How to improve movement analysis (MA) communication - Why listening and adaptability are critical skills Resources: Learn more about certification: https://thesnowpros.org Register or manage your membership: https://members.thesnowpros.org/register Explore webinars + training: https://lms.thesnowpros.org About First Chair The PSIA-AASI podcast for instructors looking to grow their teaching, technical, and people skills.

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    From Purple Heart to Ski Instructor: Tony Drees on Resilience, Purpose, and Teaching on One Leg

    What drives someone to keep pushing forward when life delivers unimaginable setbacks? In this episode of First Chair, George Thomas sits down with Aspen Ski Instructor Tony Drees, a Purple Heart recipient whose journey from combat injury to cancer to amputation ultimately led him to the slopes as a ski instructor. Tony shares how losing his leg at 50 inspired him to pursue skiing with purpose—quickly progressing from first lessons to teaching and preparing for his Alpine Level II certification. Along the way, he reflects on resilience, the power of collaboration in adaptive sports, and why outdoor recreation is never a solo effort. From backflips on one leg to mentoring Paralympic athletes, Tony’s story is about more than perseverance—it’s about using skiing to inspire reflection, connection, and possibility. Watch this episode on YouTube to see Tony’s story and hear how the snowsports community helped shape his journey.

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    Cross Country Academy, Efficiency, and Micro Adjustments with Justin Arndt

    How can a movement as small as a five-degree change in your knee or shoulder position dramatically improve your skiing efficiency? In this episode of First Chair, host George Thomas talks with PSIA-AASI National Team member Justin Arndt about his recent 32 Degrees article, “Micro Adjustments: A Practice for Developing Efficiency.” Justin explains how subtle changes in body position—like shifting your center of mass, adjusting knee angles, or refining pole placement—can significantly impact balance, power, and efficiency on snow. Justin also shares how these ideas translate across cross country, alpine, telemark, and snowboard instruction, and how instructors can help guests experiment with small adjustments that create big performance gains. Watch this episode on YouTube to see Justin demonstrate these micro adjustments and tutorials visually. His examples make it easy to understand how tiny movements can lead to more powerful, efficient skiing. The conversation also covers: - Why efficiency is the foundation of cross country skiing - How micro adjustments can improve skiing across disciplines -Teaching strategies for helping students feel subtle movement changes - Details about the upcoming Cross Country Academy at Mt. Bachelor Whether you're an instructor, certification candidate, or simply looking to ski more efficiently, this episode offers practical insights you can apply on your next day on snow.

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    The State of Telemark in the U.S. — Growth, Community, and What’s Next

    What’s the state of telemark skiing in the United States today — and where is it headed next? In this episode of First Chair, George Thomas sits down with PSIA Telemark Team member Keith Rodney and instructor Charlie MacArthur to talk about the evolving landscape of telemark skiing. From regional “pockets” of passionate skiers to grassroots growth through clinics and community events, they explore how the sport continues to adapt and thrive. They discuss modern telemark gear, accessibility, and why now might be the perfect time to try something new on snow. You’ll also hear about upcoming telemark festivals, Telemark Academy at Copper Mountain, certification prep, and how U.S. Telemark is preparing to represent its approach on the global stage at Interski. Whether you’re tele-curious, a longtime tele skier, or simply looking to expand your movement toolbox, this conversation highlights the spirit of exploration, learning, and community that keeps the freeheel turn alive.

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    Mentorship in Snowsports: A Little Support Goes a Long Way with Carol Levine

    In Part 3 of our Mentorship Series, former PSIA-AASI National Team member Carol Levine shares how a simple idea turned into a powerful national mentorship experiment. What began as research through the Women’s Council for Equity and Inclusion — including nearly 500 mentorship-related survey comments — evolved into a time-bound, targeted pilot program supporting women endorsed for National Team tryouts. Carol walks through the four guiding principles behind the program: - Targeted groups - Time-bound structure - Choosing (not assigning) mentors - Encouraging multiple mentors The results? Increased confidence, deeper belonging, stronger leadership pipelines — and proof that mentorship doesn’t need to be complicated to be impactful. This episode explores how ski and ride schools, regions, and individual instructors can create meaningful mentorship cultures that elevate retention, resilience, and long-term professional growth. Because sometimes, a little bit of support truly beats a whole lot of nothing.

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    How Instructors Shape Safety Culture on Snow

    How do we make safety engaging without turning it into a buzzkill? In this episode of First Chair, George Thomas is joined by Tanya Riley and Earl Saline from the National Ski Areas Association (NSAA) to explore how Safety Awareness Month is evolving—and how safety messaging can stay effective all season long. From shifting the conversation away from “don’t do this” toward positive, guest-facing behaviors, to addressing lift safety, restraint bar use, and social media’s influence on on-snow culture, this conversation highlights the powerful role ski and snowboard instructors play as daily safety ambassadors. The group also dives into lift safety bootcamps, industry-wide collaboration with PSIA-AASI, NSP, and U.S. Ski & Snowboard, and why modeling safe behavior matters at every level. Whether you’re teaching first-timers or advanced guests, this episode reinforces why safety isn’t a moment—it’s a mindset that shapes great guest experiences all season long.

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    Mentorship in Snowsports – Part 2: Mentorship Doesn’t Have to Look One Way

    In Part 2 of this four-part series on mentorship in snowsports, George Thomas builds on the foundation set in Part 1 by shifting the conversation west. After exploring how the Eastern Region’s Next Steps Mentorship Program took shape, this episode looks at how mentorship can succeed even without a formal, one-size-fits-all structure. Joined by Marisa Cooper from the Western Region, George dives into the power of alignment, community, and “mentorship with a small M.” Marisa explains how sharing best practices across regions, fostering informal leadership pathways, and meeting members where they are creates meaningful mentorship opportunities—proving that connection and impact matter more than rigid frameworks.

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    Mentorship in Snowsports – Part 1: Creating Community Beyond Certification

    Mentorship plays a critical role in shaping careers, confidence, and community within the snowsports industry. In Episode 1 of this four-part series, George Thomas sits down with Matthew Lyerly to explore how the Eastern Region’s Next Steps Mentorship Program was created — and why it’s about much more than exam prep. Matthew shares how the program connects developing snow pros with experienced education staff, supports long-term career growth, and builds meaningful relationships across member schools. From advancing certification goals to finding belonging and professional direction, this episode sets the foundation for understanding mentorship as a powerful tool for retention, development, and leadership in snowsports.

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    Building Better Skiers: PSIA-AASI x U.S. Ski & Snowboard Collaboration

    In this episode of First Chair, host George Thomas sits down with Matt Gnoza, Freestyle Sport Director at U.S. Ski & Snowboard, and PSIA-AASI National Team members AJ and Elle, to explore a groundbreaking collaboration between the two organizations. As the U.S. prepares for the 2034 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, Matt shares how his team designed a new National Development Group program to prepare future Olympians — and why partnering with PSIA-AASI was a game-changer. AJ and Elle discuss what it was like to work with elite freestyle athletes, how fundamental skiing skills translate to world-class performance, and what both groups learned from blending coaching philosophies. Together, they reveal how this project is helping athletes — and coaches — become better skiers, better teachers, and better teammates.

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    Off-Snow Training with Purpose: Slackboard Fitness for Skiers and Riders

    In this episode of First Chair: PSIA-AASI Podcast, host George Thomas sits down with Derek Mikulski, Director of Commercial Sales and Education for Gibbon North America, and National Team member Melodie Buell to explore how balance training off the snow can transform on-snow performance. Derek shares how his own fitness journey led him to champion the Slackboard—a slackline-inspired balance trainer designed to build strength, stability, and coordination for athletes of all ages. He also discusses new research showing how balance training supports not just athletic performance but overall health, focus, and mental well-being. Melodie offers an instructor’s perspective, sharing how Slackboard training has enhanced her preseason conditioning—improving foot and core engagement, reducing fatigue, and adding a sense of play to her workouts. Together, they discuss why balance work matters for every discipline—alpine, snowboard, cross-country, telemark, and adaptive—and how small, mindful off-snow movements can yield major gains in control and confidence on the hill. Whether you’re looking to prevent injury, extend your teaching career, or rediscover joy in movement, this conversation connects fitness, flow, and longevity in ways that resonate with every snow pro.

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    Finding Your Why: Keep It Fun, Not Final: Playing the Long Game with Nathan Chapple | Part 4

    In the final episode of the Finding Our Why mini-series, PSIA-AASI’s Nathan Chapple reflects on two decades in snowsports instruction—starting as a 15-year-old junior instructor in the Pacific Northwest and growing into an Intermountain examiner who measures success by the lives he touches. Nathan shares how teaching gave a shy kid a consistent forum to practice communication, how certification structure sharpened his craft, and why a student-centered approach (and today’s People Skills emphasis) creates better teachers—and better guest experiences. Nathan also opens up about scaling impact by training instructors, the season he nearly lost his spark, and how changing environments (hello, Snowbird) helped him rediscover joy. His advice for anyone on the fence about Level II or Level III is pure gold: control what you can, avoid outcome-only goals, and treat this as a game to play—not a game to win. It’s a grounded, generous conversation that brings our series home: purpose isn’t a pin or a title—it’s the way we show up for guests, peers, and the broader mountain community.

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    Finding Your Why – From Ski Club to Ski Pro - the Joy of Teaching with Kathy Mogensen – Part 3

    In Part 3 of Finding Our Why, PSIA-AASI member Kathy Mogensen joins George Thomas to share her journey from a seventh-grade ski-club kid with rental skis and fifty cents for hot chocolate to a 20-year PSIA-AASI instructor who’s helped generations of new skiers fall in love with the sport. Kathy’s story captures what makes ski and snowboard instructors so passionate about what they do—the joy of watching guests gain confidence, connection, and community on snow. What started by chance—when a ski school director handed her a jacket and said, “Here’s your group”—grew into a lifelong purpose rooted in helping others discover the same love of skiing that shaped her family’s life. Throughout the conversation, Kathy reflects on the mentors who guided her, the small ski areas that nurture tight-knit teaching communities, and the simple power of sharing turns with others. She also opens up about fear—how she’s faced it, learned from it, and now uses those lessons to help her students find control and confidence on the hill. Whether she’s teaching inner-city kids, moms learning to ski for the first time, or fellow instructors, Kathy’s “why” is simple: to create opportunities for others to feel the same joy and connection she’s found through skiing. This episode celebrates the everyday instructors who make the biggest difference—not through big mountains or fancy titles, but through genuine care, patience, and passion for helping others find their way on snow.

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    Finding Your Why: Owning Your Journey and Finding Purpose with Melodie Buell - Part 2

    In Part 2 of Finding Your Why, PSIA-AASI National Team member Melodie Buell sits down again with George Thomas for a raw, heartfelt conversation about what it really takes to trust yourself, stay authentic, and reconnect with purpose—even when doubt creeps in. From her first tearful ski lesson at age five to racing Division I in college, coaching junior athletes, and eventually finding her calling through adaptive instruction, Melodie shares how every turn on snow led her closer to understanding her “why.” Along the way, she talks about shifting from external validation—pins, titles, and team selections—to internal motivation grounded in impact, service, and inclusion. This episode digs into the emotional side of professional growth in the ski and ride world—the part we don’t always talk about. Melodie opens up about facing imposter syndrome before national team tryouts, learning to sit with discomfort, and finding the courage to show up as her authentic self. Through vulnerability and grit, she reminds all instructors that living into your purpose isn’t about reaching a pinnacle—it’s about using every opportunity to connect, give back, and elevate the people and communities around you. Whether you’re just starting your certification journey or decades into teaching, this conversation will hit home. It’s a reminder that your “why” can be the strongest tool in your quiver—and that believing in yourself might just be the most important skill of all.

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    Finding Your Why – Why We Teach: A Conversation with Melodie Buell – Part 1

    In the first episode of our latest mini-series, Finding Your Why, host George Thomas sits down with PSIA-AASI National Team member Melodie Buell to unpack what it really means to find purpose in snowsports instruction. Melodie shares how defining her “why” reshaped her approach to teaching, training, and living—moving beyond goals like earning certifications to embracing the deeper meaning behind the work instructors do every day. Together, George and Melodie explore how understanding your purpose sustains motivation through challenges, transforms how you connect with guests, and turns feedback into growth. Whether you’re a seasoned pro or a new instructor, this conversation invites you to pause, reflect, and rediscover what truly keeps you coming back to the mountain.

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    We’re Listening: How PSIA-AASI’s New Member Survey Will Shape the Future of Instruction

    In this special episode of the First Chair Podcast, PSIA-AASI CEO Jeff Lifgren and Marketing & Communications Director Katherine Fuller share the inside story behind this season’s all-new member survey. This isn’t just another questionnaire — it’s part of a larger, ongoing effort to better understand and respond to the needs of instructors, schools, and the entire snowsports industry. Jeff and Katherine discuss why this new approach is different, how it will help PSIA-AASI stay relevant in a rapidly changing environment, and why every member’s participation matters. From uncovering what drives instructors to helping schools tell their story to resort ownership, this project is all about listening, learning, and building a stronger future for everyone on snow.

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    Gear Meets Community: Renoun Launches a First-of-its-Kind Ski Membership

    In this episode of First Chair, host George Thomas sits down with Rob Golden, CEO of Renoun, and Dana Kaufman, Director of Renoun Pro Membership, to introduce PSIA-AASI members to one of its newest official suppliers. Renoun isn’t your average ski company — it was founded by an aerospace engineer who discovered how to use non-Newtonian material in ski cores. The result is skis that adapt in real time to terrain and vibration, stiffening on ice and staying smooth in powder. This patented “secret sauce” gives skiers a ride that literally changes with every turn. The company has launched the world’s first ski membership program, RenounPro, a community-driven model that combines high-performance gear with real connections. Members get access to skis, exclusive events, discounted gear, and even opportunities to swap or donate old skis to adaptive programs — creating a cycle of performance and purpose. Rob and Dana share how Renoun’s direct-to-consumer roots allow them to know every customer personally, why they see PSIA-AASI instructors as the core of this new movement, and how the RenounPro community fosters connection both online and on the mountain. You’ll also hear how instructors can get involved, lead their own events, and access exclusive member perks.

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    Flip the Script and Reignite the Joy: Why Fall Instructor Training Matters – Part 3

    In part three of our Return Instructor Training mini-series, host George Thomas chats with Lyndsay Ward, PSIA-AASI Central Region Education and Certification Manager, about how to bring fresh energy and purpose to the start of every season. Lindsay draws on her journey from small-town instructor to trainer, ski school director, and regional leader to share a powerful perspective: return training isn’t a box to check—it’s a chance to reconnect, retool, and reignite your passion for teaching. She breaks down how management can turn pre-season meetings into celebrations of community, creativity, and culture—and how instructors can transform routine refreshers into opportunities for growth. From the importance of safety and communication to sparking curiosity and lifelong learning, Lindsay reminds us that returning to snow is more than just repeating old steps—it’s rediscovering the joy that brought us here in the first place. Whether you’re leading the training or lacing up your boots to attend, this episode will inspire you to flip the script and see preseason prep as the launchpad for your best winter yet.

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    Curiosity, Culture, and Commitment: Why Fall Instructor Training Matters – PART 2

    In the second episode of our three-part series on fall instructor training, host George Thomas is joined by PSIA-AASI National Team member Peter Novom to talk about why investing in your returning instructors is critical for both staff culture and guest experiences. Peter shares insights from his 25+ years of teaching—why no two lessons are ever the same, how to keep curiosity alive year after year, and why approaching training with an open mind transforms it from a “requirement” into a growth opportunity. From constraints-based learning examples to the importance of feedback culture, George and Peter explore how return instructor training can: - Motivate and energize your most experienced staff. - Turn routine lessons into creative, engaging experiences. - Set seasonal teaching goals that keep instructors growing. - Strengthen longevity, curiosity, and commitment within your school. Whether you’re a manager designing training or an instructor showing up for it, this episode will help you see fall training as more than a refresher—it’s an investment in long-term success, for you and for your guests.

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    Kick Off the Season with Purpose: Why Fall Instructor Training Matters - PART 1

    The season is right around the corner, and fall instructor trainings are more than just a chance to reunite with friends and get back on snow. In this first episode of a three-part series, George Thomas sits down with PSIA-AASI Education and Development Manager Angelo Ross to explore how you can show up with the right mindset and get the most out of these essential preseason sessions. From the excitement of reconnecting with peers to the challenge of avoiding “habit mode,” George and Angelo dive into why setting clear intentions matters—for your own growth and for creating the best possible guest experience. They highlight how open-mindedness keeps us learning, why training is about more than social catch-ups, and how concepts like observation vs. inference, note-taking, and questioning strategies can transform both teaching and learning. Angelo also shares insight into examiner training updates, including the new Co-Examiner Connection Guide and why fairness, consistency, and collaboration are at the core of this season’s focus. Even if you’re not on Ed Staff, you’ll discover practical takeaways—from refining your teaching fundamentals to recognizing breakthrough moments on snow—that will help you start the season stronger and stay inspired all winter long. Tune in and get ready to shift your perspective: fall instructor training isn’t just a requirement—it’s your launchpad to becoming a better instructor and delivering an unforgettable guest experience.

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    A New Era of Collaboration: National Leadership Talks Priorities

    In this episode of First Chair, PSIA-AASI CEO Jeffrey Lifgren and Board Chair John May sit down with host George Thomas to share their perspectives on leadership, priorities, and the future of the organization. John reflects on his journey from teaching at Mount Hood to serving as Board Chair, highlighting the experiences that shaped his career and his passion for supporting instructors. Jeff outlines the National Board’s strategic priorities for the year ahead: stabilizing IT systems, supporting regions and members as valued clients, and driving decision-making with reliable data. Together, they discuss how the organization is shifting toward stronger collaboration with regions, recognizing them as the experts in delivering on-snow education and guest experiences. They also talk about the importance of community and self-development, the evolving role of member schools, and how new communication and survey efforts will help bring the entire membership along on this journey. Tune in for an inside look at how PSIA-AASI leadership is laying the groundwork today to deliver a stronger, more connected member experience in the seasons ahead.

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    Jumpstart Your Season with Katie White & Kevin Jordan

    First Chair connects with National Team members Katie White and Kevin Jordan as they join us from Portillo, Chile. They talk about why late-season training camps are such a powerful way to get extra time on snow, sharpen technique, and build momentum heading into winter. Katie explains how Portillo’s highly qualified ski school and affordable lesson options make it a hidden gem for certification prep, while Kevin shares how his camp balances skill development with the unique energy of training alongside world-class athletes. Beyond on-snow opportunities, they offer practical advice for anyone who can’t make the trip — from intentional gym workouts and visualization drills to building study groups, reviewing manuals, and keeping your skiing mindset sharp in the fall. The conversation also looks ahead to the coming season, team training, and the excitement of the U.S. hosting Interski 2027 for the first time in decades.

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    Skiing South America: Kevin Jordan on Training in Portillo, Chile

    First Chair connects with PSIA-AASI Team member Kevin Jordan to explore what it means to train in the Southern Hemisphere during the North American summer. Kevin dives into the story behind launching Condor Camps in Portillo, Chile, and why the Andes are such a unique classroom for instructors. He shares how South America offers everything from steep terrain and historic ski racing culture to opportunities for members to prep for certification, shake off the rust, and get a jumpstart on the upcoming season. Hear Kevin’s take on building the camp, the international community it’s drawing, and why skiing in September can be the perfect way to carry momentum into winter at home.

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    Episode 761 | How Teaching Mountain Biking Can Make You a Better Ski or Snowboard Instructor

    First Chair catches up with Aspen Snowmass instructor and PSIA-AASI National Team member Kevin Jordan to talk about the growing crossover between skiing, snowboarding, and mountain biking. Kevin shares how summer bike instruction builds camaraderie among instructors, sharpens teaching skills for winter, and opens doors to new certification opportunities like PMBIA, BICP, and GSMBC. Learn how terrain reading, rider positioning, and effective communication on a bike can translate directly to better lessons on snow — and why mountain biking might be your next great teaching adventure. Ask ChatGPT

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    EPISODE 760 | Collaboration, Communication, and Cooperation with Grace Center do Ouro

    In this episode of the First Chair Podcast, George Thomas chats with Grace Center Du Oro, recipient of the PSIA-AASI Three Cs Award for communication, collaboration, and cooperation. Grace shares her journey from weekend warrior at Hoodoo to becoming the resort’s new Ski and Ride School Director. She reflects on building community, the value of mentorship, and how showing up authentically creates connection on and off the hill. Tune in for a heartfelt conversation about finding your stoke, embracing imposter syndrome, and why Hoodoo's “island of misfit toys” is something truly special. Learn more about PSIA-AASIs Awards and Recognition program at thesnowpros.org.

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    Episode 759 | Dale Drennan on a Life of Learning, Teaching, and the Power of Tele Turns

    In this episode of First Chair, George Thomas catches up with Dale Drennan, recipient of PSIA-AASI’s Educational Excellence Award. Dale shares her journey from learning to ski in the Poconos in 1957 to becoming a lifelong educator across multiple disciplines—from English to swimming to Nordic and telemark skiing. Tune in to hear Dale’s reflections on what educational excellence really means, how to connect with reluctant learners, and how teaching has evolved over the decades. You’ll also get to hear the story behind her now-famous pencil analogy from National Academy, plus her advice to new instructors on staying inspired in the face of challenges.

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    Episode 758 | Year-Round Ski and Ride Training with SkyTechSport

    In this episode of First Chair, George Thomas talks with SkyTechSport co-founder Alex Golunov and account manager Connor Bishop about how their cutting-edge ski and snowboard simulator is helping people train smarter—anytime, anywhere. Learn how the simulator replicates g-forces, edge angles, and pressure points to support both high-performance athletes and brand-new skiers. Alex shares how SkyTechSport evolved from a college project into a global training tool now used by the U.S. Ski Team, while Connor explains how PSIA-AASI instructors are integrating it into lessons and even launching their own indoor ski studios. The team also explores how the simulator aids in rehabilitation, offers real-time feedback, and includes immersive runs like the Streif and Cortina d'Ampezzo to keep training dynamic and fun. 👉 To learn more, visit thesnowpros.org.

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    Episode 757 | The 5 Elements of Inspirational Instruction - Part 3 - w/ Dr. Josh Pighetti

    In the final episode of this three-part series, host George Thomas is joined by Dr. Josh Pighetti and PSIA-AASI National Team members Matt Larson and Zoe Mavis for a deep dive into the Five Elements of Inspirational Instruction: Technical Expertise, Instructional Communication, Masterful Teaching, Professional Character, and a Student-Centered Approach. To hear more on Josh's keynote from National Academy 2024: copy and paste this link -https://www.youtube.com/live/dv3pdRhGimI. Together, they explore how inspirational instructors blend strong technical skills with empathy, creativity, and adaptability to meet students where they are. Zoe and Matt share real-world stories about modifying their delivery while staying true to themselves and how those small shifts lead to stronger student relationships and more meaningful learning moments. They also talk about building shared language, navigating tricky dynamics (like parent involvement), and helping students feel like they truly belong in the snowsports community. Whether you're a first-year instructor or a seasoned trainer, this conversation offers thoughtful insights, practical tools, and plenty of inspiration for connecting more deeply with your students — and with the sport you love. Learn more about this research and the collaboration between Pennsylvania State University and PSIA-AASI by heading to thesnowpros.org.

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    Episode 756 | The Five Elements of Inspirational Instruction — Part 2 w/ Dr. Josh Pighetti

    In Episode 756 of the First Chair Podcast, George Thomas continues the conversation with Dr. Josh Pighetti to explore the remaining three of the Five Elements of Inspirational Instruction: Masterful Teaching, Personal and Professional Character, and the Student-Centered Approach. These principles—rooted in Josh’s doctoral research—offer actionable strategies to create meaningful, engaging lessons that put students at the heart of the learning experience. This conversation is part of PSIA-AASI’s ongoing partnership with Penn State University, which supports instructors through access to online snowsports courses, certification-aligned academic programs, and advanced degrees. Leaders like Josh are helping shape a more inspired and research-driven future for snowsports education. Catch up on Part 1 if you missed it, and visit thesnowpros.org to learn more about this exciting collaboration.

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    Episode 755 | The Five Elements of Inspirational Instruction — Part 1 w/ Dr. Josh Pighetti

    In Episode 755 of the First Chair Podcast, George Thomas talks with Dr. Josh Pighetti about the first two of the Five Elements of Inspirational Instruction: Technical Expertise and Instructional Communication. These insights come from Josh’s doctoral research and offer practical tools for creating more impactful, student-centered lessons have powerful implications for instructors at all levels. This work is part of a growing collaboration between PSIA-AASI and Penn State University, aimed at expanding access to online snowsports courses, certification pathways, and academic programs — from undergraduate degrees to master’s and Ph.D. studies. Researchers like Josh and emerging leaders like Sierra are helping shape the future of snowsports education. Listen to the next episode to continue the dive into Inspirational Instruction. To learn more about this collaboration, head to thesnowpros.org.

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    Episode 754 | A National Team Member's Path to Adaptive Level III with Lyndsey Stevens

    In this episode of First Chair, PSIA-AASI National Team member Lyndsey Stevens joins host George Thomas to discuss her recent achievement of earning her Adaptive Snowboard Level III certification — the first in over a decade in the Rocky Mountain Region. Lyndsey shares how her path into adaptive snowsports began at Vail, and how that experience reshaped her approach to teaching and riding. She talks about the preparation process, the value of teamwork and mentorship, and the pressure of pursuing high-level certification as a team member. This conversation offers insights into the commitment behind certification success and reinforces the importance of staying curious and adaptable — no matter where you are in your snowsports career. Learn more at thesnowpros.org.

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    Episode 753: Finding Balance with Gibbon Slacklines and the Giboard

    In this episode, George Thomas talks with Brian Pate and Derek Mikulski from Gibbon Slacklines about how balance training can elevate your performance on snow. They dive into the science behind balance, stability, and body awareness—and how the Gibbon Giboard offers a fun and effective way to build those skills. For instructors, the Giboard is more than just a balance toy—it’s a versatile training tool that reinforces key fundamentals like foot-to-core connection, coordination, and proprioception. It's compact, easy to set up, and ideal for both personal use and student progressions off the hill. PSIA-AASI members get a special discounts on Giboards through their pro offers. Learn more about membership and Gibbon by heading to thesnowpros.org.

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    Episode 752: Inside National Academy: A Conversation with Jeff Lifgren

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    Episode 751: National Team Member Lyndsey Stevens Talks Spring Riding, Team Tryouts, and Interski

    In this episode, George Thomas catches up with PSIA-AASI Snowboard Team member Lyndsey Stevens. They chat about the shift into spring riding, exam season, and what it’s like to go through National Team tryouts—not once, but twice. Lyndsey shares her perspective on coaching at Rider Rally, prepping for an adaptive exam, and her excitement about Interski 2027 coming to her home mountain, Vail. A great listen for anyone passionate about snowsports and professional growth.

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    EPISODE 750 | Connecting with the Nation’s First ‘Doctor of Snowsports Education’

    On this episode, we chat with Josh Pighetti who just earned his doctorate degree in Recreation, Park and Tourism Management. This has taken over two years to complete and has a direct relation to snowsports instruction. Learn more by tuning in and at thesnowpros.org. Over the last few years, I’d been researching how snowsports instructors can inspire their students to continue learning and participating. Through observations of PSIA-AASI National Team members in action, combined with in-depth interviews with them and their students, I found that inspirational instruction consists of five major elements: Technical Expertise, Instructional Communication, Masterful Teaching, Personal and Professional Character, and Student-Centered Approach. These elements form the framework of inspirational instruction, shaping how we can inspire lifelong engagement and passion in snowsports. Tune in for more or head to thesnowpros.org.

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    EPISODE 748 | Power & Grace: 2025 Women’s Summit Recap with Ying Liu

    On this episode, we chat with Ying Liu about the 2025 PSIA-AASI Women's Summit at Solitude, an event dedicated to skill development, inclusivity, and connection. Ying dives into this year’s theme, “Connecting Through Power and Grace,” and how it applies to both skiing and teaching. We explore key takeaways from the event, including technical coaching insights, the role of telemark skiing in building a beginner’s mindset, and how proper boot fitting can dramatically impact performance. Ying also shares her experience skiing with PSIA-AASI national team members, testing the latest ski technology like CARV sensors, and how a unique coaching analogy involving a rodeo clown helped improve lateral movement on snow. Plus, we discuss what’s ahead for the 2026 Women's Summit in Steamboat and how the event continues to evolve to support and inspire female snowsports professionals. Don’t miss this conversation packed with insights, inspiration, and a few unexpected surprises! Learn more by tuning in and at thesnowpros.org.

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    Episode 749 | Building a Strong Snowsports Culture with Jen Lockwood

    On this episode, we chat with Jen Lockwood, training coordinator at Mount Hood Meadows Ski and Ride School, about building a strong instructor culture. Jen shares insights on developing training programs, balancing staff education with guest experience, and fostering career growth within PSIA-AASI. We also discuss the importance of adaptive instruction, how training structures vary across regions, and innovative approaches like night training and virtual education. Tune in for a deep dive into what it takes to develop great instructors and a thriving snowsports school.

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    episode 747 | Meet PSIA-AASI's New CEO, Jeff Lifgren

    In this episode of First Chair, host George Thomas sits down with Jeff Lifgren, the newly appointed CEO of PSIA-AASI. Jeff shares his journey from working at top destination resorts like Breckenridge and Park City to leading ski schools across the country, including smaller Mid-Atlantic resorts. He discusses the value of diverse teaching experiences, his commitment to professional development, and his vision for PSIA-AASI’s future. Tune in to hear Jeff’s thoughts on leadership, innovation in snowsports education, and how PSIA-AASI can better support its members—whether they’re full-time instructors, weekend warriors, or lifelong enthusiasts. Plus, get a sneak peek at upcoming events like National Academy and Interski! Learn more by tuning in and at thesnowpros.org.

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    EPISODE 746 | From Level 1 to National Team member in 5 Years – Meet Justin Arndt

    Tune in and learn more about our newest Cross Country team member, Justin Arndt. Justin got his first certification in the Rocky Mountain region at the age of 16 and climbed the ranks all the way to a National Team member at the age of 21. At 21, Justin is the youngest member to ever join the team. He talks about his journey and some of the challenges and successes he’s faced along the way. Justin’s parents are also well intertwined in the snowsports industry as current and previous instructors in Colorado. Justin earned his Alpine, Telemark and Cross Country Level 1 certification alongside his mom! Learn more by tuning in and at thesnowpros.org.

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    EPISODE 745 | Learn About the First International Symposium on Snowsports Education

    Join us for an interesting chat with Pete Allison who just got back from Bulgaria where he attended the first International Symposium on Snow Sports Education, an event organized by the National Sports Academy "Vassil Levski" in Bulgaria. The symposium brought together experts, educators, and industry professionals to discuss the development and improvement of snow sports education in the region. The symposium aims to facilitate discussions on best practices, methodologies, and innovations in snow sports education. The event explored teaching techniques, safety measures, technological advancements, and ways to enhance participation in snow sports. Hosted by the National Sports Academy (NSA) "Vassil Levski", a leading institution in Bulgaria specializing in sports education and training. This symposium represents an important opportunity for collaboration and knowledge-sharing to strengthen the future of snow sports instruction in the region. Learn more by tuning in and at thesnowpros.org.

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    Episode 744 | Taking Yourself Beyond Your Region and Discipline

    Join us on this fun episode with Angelo Ross and Pete Allison as they discuss the benefits of traveling to a new region to take clinics or assessments in other regions across the country. To Angelo, the benefits are endless. From navigating a new parking lot to meeting new people to experiencing the way other people teach, traveling to another region can open your mind. Pete dives into how academia works this way too. People study abroad, they go to lectures, and they absorb as much as they can from different sources to make themselves a more well-rounded individual. What’s your point of view on this topic?

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    EPISODE 743 | The Benefits of Exploring Freestyle Skiing and Riding

    National Team members Matt Larson and Peter Novom join us this week for a deep dive into the benefits of trying and joining freestyle events. Freestyle is an exploration of skiing and snowboarding. Freestyle is an exploration of your own skills and a way to expand your horizons. Hear about the ins and outs of park rules, apprehensions, and excitement that can all stem from freestyle. Register for Freestyle Academy and learn more by tuning in and at thesnowpros.org.

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    EPISODE 742 | Breaking Bias: Coaching HER & Elevating Women in Snowsports

    Join us for this introductory chat with Nicole LaVoi, Ph. D., creator of CoachingHER, a digital education platform designed to help coaches and instructors better support female athletes. Developed by the Tucker Center for Research on Girls & Women in Sport at the University of Minnesota, it provides evidence-based resources to address gender bias, foster inclusivity, and enhance coaching effectiveness. The program includes self-paced modules, expert insights, and tools to create a more empowering sports environment for girls and women. PSIA-AASI members have free access to Coaching HER to improve their instruction. Learn more by tuning in and at thesnowpros.org under the Professional Development tab.

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    EPISODE 741 | The Importance of Words and Explaining the Language We Use as Snowsports Instructors

    Pete Allison and Angelo Ross join us again talking this time about the words we use and why they matter. Angelo discusses defining the real-life experiences of learning the language of the craft of snowsports instructing and why it matters to not only educate your guests but also educate yourself so you can more appropriately deliver teaching and technical concepts. Pete goes on to talk about how much information people can take in and why because of that, instructors need to keep it simple. Learn more by tuning in and at thesnowpros.org under the events tab.

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    Episode 740 | The 25-Year History of Rider Rally with Eric Sheckleton

    Join us for a chat with George Thomas and Eric Sheckleton, an original member of the AASI Snowboard team from 1996-2000 and current President of Interski. Erik was a key player in the formation of the original Rider Rally back in 1999 which was held at Whitefish, Montana. Eric worked with Randy Price, another AASI Team member, to bring the first national Rider Rally to Big Sky, Montana in 2000. They spent a week exploring and finding ways to build the snowboard community with fun and comradery to much avail. Erik looks back at the history of Rider Rally from 1999 to now and shares excitement that the 25th Rider Rally is happening this year as a stand-alone event at Copper Mountain, Colorado. Learn more about the PSU certification program by tuning in and going to thesnowpros.org under the events tab.

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The First Chair Podcast brings you inspirational stories and educational tips from the country's best ski, snowboard, Nordic, and adaptive instructors. More than 34,000 individuals belong to PSIA-AASI (Professional Ski Instructors of America and American Association of Snowboard Instructors), making it the world’s largest organization dedicated to snowsports. We are lifelong learners committed to changing lives through great experiences on snow. Connect with us to learn more: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thesnowpros Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thesnowpros YouTube: @thesnowpros

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