Football for Breakfast

Callum Webb grew up on a council estate in Liverpool, spent his first ten years working on a building site and at 25 had £3,000 in a drawer. He spent every penny of it on a personal training course. Today he co-founded POW8R - the number one live stream and on-demand fitness app, featured in Vogue and GQ, with members across the globe.In episode two of Football for Breakfast, Jim Johnson sits down with Callum in the greasy spoon cafe to talk about football, fitness and what they have in common. The answer, it turns out, is everything.They start on the Kop. Callum's earliest football memory is sitting on a stanchion on the old standing Kop as a four or five year old with his grandad. From there the conversation moves through the treble season, the 2001 FA Cup final his grandad's brothers took his ticket for, and the week in 2005 where Callum scored a free kick at Anfield for Cardinal Lennon on the Monday night and watched Liverpool win the Champions League in Istanbul on the Wednesday. He brings a ticket stub to the table. It isn't his. His parents accidentally burned his memorabilia when he moved out. So he called his grandad.In the second half, Callum talks about the moment at 25 when he looked around the building site and knew it wasn't the life he was signing himself up for. How he spent his last £3,000 on a personal training course. How three months in he made the decision to coach female clients only - a niche move that felt risky and turned out to be the making of him. How he went into online coaching before Covid, watched thousands of people show up to his free Instagram classes during lockdown, and walked away from a six figure coaching business to launch POW8R with zero members on day one.Jim puts it to him halfway through: you left the building site, but you've been building ever since. Callum hadn't thought of it that way before.Football for Breakfast is presented by OSS Security.Cafes. Clubs. Communities. Culture.

Neil Atkinson has built one of the most distinctive football media brands on the planet. As host and managing director of The Anfield Wrap, he has taken the voice of the match-going Liverpool supporter to every corner of the globe. When Gary Neville tells you that you're a better pundit than him, you know you're doing something right.In the first ever episode of Football for Breakfast, Jim Johnson sits down with Neil in the greasy spoon cafe to talk about what the game really means. Not the table. Not the tactics. The feeling.They start at the beginning. Neil's first game at Anfield - a five nil win over Birmingham City where Gary Gillespie scored a hat trick from centre back, including a penalty the Kop demanded he take. Decades later, Neil walked into Gillespie's house to interview him and found the signed match ball from that very game sitting in the hallway. A full circle moment that stops you in your tracks.From there the conversation moves into the power of football commentary, why certain voices unlock specific memories, and what Clive Tyldsley's Radio City commentary from 1986 taught Neil about storytelling long before he knew that's what he was going to do for a living.In the second half, Neil talks about building The Anfield Wrap from a Monday morning recording in Parr Street Studios into a global football media brand. How do you know when the moment is right? What do you do when your business model works better when the team wins? How do you build a community that compounds rather than spikes? Neil's thinking on timing, leadership and making the most of the good times - not just surviving the hard ones - is some of the most honest you'll hear from anyone who has built something real in football media.They also get into the 1986 Merseyside FA Cup Final, what it means for a city when both clubs are strong, and the Pat Jennings trivia that will surprise even the most devoted Everton supporter.Neil closes with the penalty shootout - five quickfire questions - and the one result he will never get over. It isn't the one you'd expect.Football for Breakfast is presented by OSS Security.Cafes. Clubs. Communities. Culture.