For the Love of Product 💙🎙

In this episode, brought to you by Bagel AI, we sat down with Ohad Biron, CEO & Co-Founder of Bagel AI, to explore a growing challenge in modern product teams: feature overload in the age of AI.As building gets faster, it’s easier than ever to lose focus. So how do product leaders avoid becoming feature factories—and instead drive real impact?

We’ve just hit 50, and we’re ready to celebrate!By 50, we don’t mean 50 years old. We’ve hit 50 episodes covering all things product. We’ve interviewed the best and brightest in the industry, getting their personal stories and incredible career journeys. From the start of their product paths, their successes, and all the lessons they’ve learned along the way, we’ve got podcasts from every walk of life. The one thing they all have in common is a love of product.Join Tiama Hanson-Drury, our fantastic host, as she hits her milestone 50th interview with Shelley Perry, Board Director, Operator turned Investor and SaaS ScaleUp Expert. What’s in store for you?Shelley talks about all things network and scaling. It's not just what you know but who you know and how you can leverage those relationships for your product. Take it from her: your network can become an essential part of your professional toolkit. And it's not just about getting jobs; it's about sharing expertise, learning from others, and contributing to a broader community to find the right leaders for your company.Shelley shares the secrets of building genuine relationships over time and how that can help scale your product. Engaging in communities, sharing valuable content, and participating in discussions are all powerful ways to expand your circle. Learn to be an active part of conversations in your industry. Shelley teaches you how to Invest in your people so they’ll invest back in you.Key talking pointsThe importance of networking throughout one's career for advancement and support. How to chart your career path, get feedback, and transition to new roles. Finding the right product leader for your company's stage of growth. The unique challenges of growing a startup into a successful scaleup. A little about the guestShelley attended the University of Denver and is now an investor, board director, and advisor specializing in helping SaaS companies accelerate growth during the scale-up stage. She has deep operator experience from her past roles as a software operator, CPO, and CEO and loves to share her expertise to help others in their product journey.Want more?There are 49 more episodes of goodness to listen to. It’s time to make a cup of tea, cozy into a blanket, and listen away. Or maybe you’re more of a podcast-on-the-go type of person. Hit that play button as you start your drive to work or get on that running path. Wherever you are, our podcast is ready for you.Be sure to catch more episodes of For the Love of Product!

We chat with Gabe Nicolau, Director of Product Strategy and Operations at TikTok, Americas.The power of fueling growth through continued user engagement.How to accelerate launch timelines and figure out what to prioritize. How cross-functional collaboration can streamline user journeys and go-to-market readiness.The advantages of setting aggressive targets and OKRs to propel products forward.Understanding what ticks… and what… tocks… (sorry) when it comes to having a structured plan and strong alignment with stakeholders.