Heartwork Podcast

Partnership is one of the most beautiful and most humbling places to do inner work. Because the person you chose does not stop evolving. Neither do you. And somewhere between the version of them you fell for and the version of them standing in your kitchen right now, expectations have a way of quietly turning into resentment if you are not paying attention. This episode is a real, unfiltered conversation about love, marriage, and what it actually looks like to release the grip on who you think your partner should be so you can finally see who they are.🔥 In This Episode:Why expecting your partner to be 100% of everything 100% of the time is a setup for disappointment, and what a more honest and generous expectation actually looks likeHow Marisa's jealousy of her own dog became a portal into something much deeper about love, presence, and what she was really longing forThe moment Sara realized six years into marriage that her expectations had quietly shut her husband's voice completely downWhy two people do not have to grow at the same speed or in the same areas to keep growing together as a coupleWhat shifts when you stop trying to fall back in love with who you married and start falling in love with who they are right nowDoing your own work does not just change you. It changes what you are able to see in the person standing right next to you. And sometimes the most radical act of love is releasing the version of your partner that lives in your head and actually meeting the one who is right there.Connect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcastEmail: [email protected] the show

At some point, even a life you chose can start to feel like it is just happening to you. The same drive to work, the same chicken in the pan, the same version of yourself showing up on repeat. In this episode, Sara and Marisa get into one of the most quietly radical conversations they have had yet: what it actually looks like to add flavor, fire, and presence to the everyday things, without blowing up your life to do it. From laundry in the basement to a conference room full of thousands of women dancing to a song that made everyone blush, this one is warm, funny, vulnerable, and genuinely useful for anyone who has been craving more aliveness in the life they are already living.🔥 In This Episode:Why repetitive motion quietly kills your spark and the surprisingly small ways to bring sensation and joy back into ordinary momentsHow Sara and Marisa's first photo shoot brought up real insecurity, and what happened when they showed up anywayThe connection between getting out of your comfort zone and building the kind of self-trust that holds you steady when life gets unpredictableWhy your insecurities will not budge until you create actual evidence in your own life, and how to start doing thatWhat it means to live not just the length of your life but the width of it, and the honest question worth sitting with right nowThe version of you that you have not met yet is waiting on the other side of one uncomfortable, spicy, totally worth it choice. This conversation is your invitation to go find her.Connect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcastEmail: [email protected] the show

There is a version of you that has been waiting. Not the version that has it together, not the version that performs well in the right rooms, but the one underneath all of that. The one that wants to climb a tree in five inch heels and feel something crack open. In this episode, Sara and Marisa bring you into a weekend that was part brand shoot, part community, part something neither of them can fully put into words. What came through was not a framework or a formula. It was something richer than that. An honest look at self expression, suppression, relational equity, and what becomes possible when you stop trying to earn your place in the room and just let yourself be in it.🔥 In This Episode:Why Sara hired a stylist for the first time and what it taught her about asking for help in the areas of life that do not come naturallyWhat it actually felt like to walk a catwalk in a room full of entrepreneurs and why that one moment of discomfort unlocked something that had been waiting a long timeThe difference between being in community and having real relational equity, and why that distinction matters more than most people realizeWhy the richness of life does not live in the transaction or the outcome, even when you have spent your whole career chasing bothWhat both Sara and Marisa noticed about the spiritual thread running between people in the room and why that kind of connection cannot be orchestrated, only receivedWhere you are right now is not behind. It is not less than. It is the most honest starting place you have ever had. And if something in this episode is pulling at you, that is not an accident. That is an invitation to get curious about what is trying to come through.Connect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcastEmail: [email protected] the show

Every practice owner will face these four leadership principles again and again. How to stay calm under pressure. How to have tough conversations. How to hold real accountability. And the art of celebrating your people well. These are not one-time situations. They show up in the daily rhythm of running a practice, in the moment someone drops the ball, in the tension that fills a room when something goes sideways, and in the quiet moments where someone on your team does something extraordinary and needs to know you see it. In this episode, Sara and Marisa get into all four, with real words, real tools, and the honest conversation about what gets in the way of doing any of them well.🔥 In This Episode:Why reacting in the moment almost always backfires and the more powerful move of coaching after the scenario instead of inside itHow to walk into a tough conversation grounded and kind without losing your authority or undermining your own confidence as a leaderThe question Sara asks her leaders when they are afraid to have a hard conversation, and why worst case scenario is almost never what you thinkWhether you are dealing with a people problem or a process problem, and why getting that answer right changes everything about how you respondPractical ways to celebrate your team with specificity, from group call outs to phone reminders to the personal note that makes someone feel genuinely seenThe leaders who build teams that last are not the ones who have it all figured out. They are the ones who keep showing up to the hard conversations with enough steadiness that the people around them feel safe to grow. That is the work. And if you want to keep doing it alongside other leaders who are in it with you, the HeartWork Collective closes TODAY. Over six months, you and your team will get monthly group coaching calls, private community access, a growing resource library, and real time support from Sara and Marisa as you navigate exactly the kind of leadership moments this episode covers. If you are ready, this is your last chance. Join us here.Connect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcastEmail: [email protected] the show

Most people walk into a personal development event looking for an answer. A framework, a fix, a clear path forward. What happened at HeartWork Live on March 13th and 14th was something entirely different. In this episode, Sara and Marisa take you inside the weekend, the 13 acres, the art, the movement, the tears, the breakthroughs, and the moment a 60-year-old woman asked herself what she wanted for her life for the very first time. This is not a highlight reel. This is what it actually looks like when people stop outsourcing their direction and start listening to themselves.🔥 In This Episode:Why chasing the how before you know the what will land you in the exact same place with a brand new problemWhat happened when a room full of leaders, associates, and team members stopped performing growth and actually went there togetherThe moment one breakout session threw out the whole plan because the room needed something more real than the worksheetWhy people who had been in therapy for three years had more movement in one weekend, and what that says about the kind of space Sara and Marisa holdWhat the HeartWork Collective is, who it is for, and why they are intentionally keeping it smallThe inner work is not a detour from building a thriving business and a life you actually love. It is the whole road. If this episode stirred something in you, the HeartWork Collective is where the real work continues. Over six months, you and your team will get monthly group coaching calls, private community access, a growing resource library, and real time support from Sara and Marisa as you navigate the personal and professional work that actually moves the needle. Spots are limited and intentionally so. If you are ready, do not wait. Join us here.Connect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcastEmail: [email protected] the show

There is a moment most practice owners know well. A seat opens up, the pressure builds, and every instinct you have screams to fill it fast. What nobody tells you is that the urgency you feel is data, and it is worth sitting with before you act on it. In this episode, Sara and Marisa get into the real, unfiltered conversation about what hiring and firing actually looks like as you grow as a leader. Not the polished version, not the version where you always knew what you were doing. The version that includes holding out for eight months, learning to separate your intuition from your anxiety, and recognizing that sometimes the most strategic thing you can do is pause.🔥 In This Episode:Why putting a warm body in an empty seat is a short-term fix that often creates a longer-term mess, and what to do in the waiting insteadHow Sara's team spent months simplifying systems and refining culture before making their next hire, and why that season made the eventual yes even clearerThe difference between hiring out of fear and hiring from a place of quiet, grounded certainty, and how to tell the one from the otherWhy your team is the most honest mirror you have as a leader, and what it means when hiring keeps falling apartMarisa's honest look at how timelines she had mapped in her head collided with reality, and what she learned about trusting herself through the uncertainty anywayThe leaders who build teams that last are not the ones who always make the fastest decisions. They are the ones who do the inner work between hires, trust what they have built, and stay grounded enough to let the right people find them.Connect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcastEmail: [email protected] the show

You opened yourself up. You shared your heart, bought the coffees, said yes to every request, became the kind of boss people loved. And then one day you found yourself fuming over something small, exhausted by everything, quietly resentful of the culture you built. This episode is for every leader who got so busy taking care of everyone else that they forgot to take care of the business, and themselves. Sara and Marisa dig into a real listener question about where vulnerability ends and over-exposure begins, and what it actually looks like to lead with warmth and a spine at the same time.🔥 In This Episode:Sara gets raw about hiring friends, becoming a mother figure to her team, and the slow build of resentment that forced her to finally have the hard conversationsWhy over-giving does not create loyalty, it creates entitlement, and how to recognize that pattern before it derails your cultureThe 10-minute vulnerability practice Sara uses in leadership meetings that creates real connection without blurring the lines of authorityMarisa on how team turnover can send you into a spiral of "was I enough" and how that spiral quietly poisons your next round of hiring decisionsThe temperature check every leader needs: are you resting, or are you running on empty and calling it dedication?You can build a team that feels deeply human and still hold a clear line between friendship and leadership. Those two things were never meant to cancel each other out.If you are in a season of rebuilding your leadership from the inside out, we want you at HeartWork Leadership Live on March 13 and 14 in Knoxville. This is the room where that work actually happens. Reserve your spot here: https://theheartworklife.myflodesk.com/rfi6abz6yvConnect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcastEmail: [email protected] the show

We are living in a world that loves a narrative arc. New year, new era, new identity. And while there is something genuinely beautiful about anchoring to something bigger than yourself, what happens when that external anchor starts doing the work your own self-awareness was always meant to do? This episode is an honest, tender, and sometimes hilarious look at the Fire Horse Lunar Year, what it actually means to embody momentum without losing presence, and why chasing a year's promise might be the very thing keeping you from what is already here.🔥 In This Episode:Sara breaks down what horses actually teach us about power: it's not constant movement, it's knowing when to run and when to graze, and that distinction changes everythingWhy attaching your experiences to external identifiers (the year of the snake, the year of the horse) can quietly rob you of the chance to actually understand yourselfThe patient who couldn't wait for 2025 to end, then decided 2026 was already terrible, and what that pattern reveals about where we are placing our powerMarisa on the real question worth asking: if something was hard, what were you actually being invited to learn, and does a cosmic calendar get to answer that for you?How to take what resonates from collective conversations, astrology, tarot, fire horse energy, all of it, without handing over your ownership of your own storyIf you are looking for something outside of yourself to finally explain your life, this episode is going to sit with you. The fire horse is not the point. You are.If this conversation is landing for you, we want you in the room with us. HeartWork Leadership Live is happening March 13 and 14 in Knoxville, and it is exactly this kind of work, getting clear, getting present, and stepping back into your own power. Grab your spot here: https://theheartworklife.myflodesk.com/rfi6abz6yvConnect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcastEmail: [email protected] the show

There's this beautiful tension between being able to show up authentically in different rooms and slipping into performance mode without even realizing it. Marisa calls it her gift to "mold and chameleon" into different spaces, but there's a line where connecting becomes performing, where you're trying to prove you're worthy of being in the conversation instead of just being present. And Sara knows this tension intimately. When her business expanded last year, revenue grew but so did expenses. She found herself making the same money, staring at her bank account thinking, "Well crap, I'm not who I said I was." That's where imposter syndrome lives. Not in failure, but in the gap between who you think you should be and what the data shows.🔥 In This Episode:The difference between authentically matching energy in a room versus going into performance to feel worthySara's raw story of expansion, increased revenue, flat profits, and the identity crisis that followedWhy you can't just switch a button and muscle your way through imposter syndromeHow your nervous system stores everything and why healing happens in layers, not quick fixesThe vibrational frequency you bring into spaces and how it mirrors back what you're extendingHealing isn't about someone telling you to just change your behavior and push through. You have to sit in the tension, understand why you're feeling the way you do, and honor where you actually are. That's where the real power lives.If you're ready to step into that work, join us for Heartwork Leadership Live on March 13-14 in Knoxville. We're going deeper into the identity work, the nervous system recalibration, and what it means to let your true life fucking glitter. Register here: https://theheartworklife.myflodesk.com/rfi6abz6yvConnect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcastEmail: [email protected] the show

You know that feeling when you step into something new and it doesn't quite fit? When the opportunity feels too big, the role feels too heavy, and you're wondering if you'll ever actually grow into it? Sara and Marisa unpack the analogy of the oversized coat: that moment when God gives you something bigger than what you currently fit into, not to overwhelm you, but to invite you to grow. This episode is about the discomfort of the stretch, the fear of the unknown, and what it actually means to trust that you're becoming the person who can fill out the next season of your life.🔥 In This Episode:The oversized coat analogy and why God gives you opportunities that feel too big instead of ones that fit perfectly right nowWhy you need to give yourself 60 to 90 days before making any additional decisions after a big leap, and how to navigate the growing pains without panickingWhat to do when you're stretching into something uncomfortable and you genuinely don't know if you'll ever fit, and why the answer isn't about knowingHow to stop putting on someone else's coat by comparing your journey to theirs, and why your growth path is uniquely designed for youWhy the lesson isn't actually about the coat itself, but about who you're becoming as you grow into the capacity to carry what's nextDon't be afraid of the next coat. The discomfort you feel right now isn't a sign you're in the wrong place. It's proof you're being stretched into someone capable of carrying more than you ever thought possible. The question isn't whether you'll fit. It's who you'll become in the process of trying.Bonus: If you're in a season of stretch right now and need the space to do the inner work that actually supports your growth, join us March 13 and 14 in Knoxville for our Heartwork Leadership Live event. This is where we go deeper into becoming the leader your next season requires. Save your spot HERE!Connect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcastEmail: [email protected] the show

You hired them because you saw potential. You trained them because you believed they could step into what you needed. But somewhere between the vision and the reality, a gap opened up. They're not moving as fast as you hoped. They're not thinking the way you do. And suddenly, you're questioning everything: Did I hire the wrong person? Am I a bad leader? Why can't they just get it? Here's what Sara and Marisa know after years of building teams and training associates: sometimes the problem isn't the person. It's the expectation. This episode is a raw, real conversation about what it actually takes to lead someone into their potential without breaking them or yourself in the process.🔥 In This Episode:The difference between hiring an adjusting horse versus a future partner, and why role clarity from day one changes everything about retention and performanceWhy placing unrealistic expectations on team members sets everyone up for disappointment, and how to get honest about what someone can actually deliverHow to discern whether someone needs the full recipe with step by step instructions or just the ingredients, and why forcing your learning style onto theirs creates frictionThe evolution from wanting to be liked by everyone to becoming firm with expectations while staying kind, and why that muscle only develops through experienceWhat it actually looks like to train someone up while trying to step back from your business, and why pouring your essence into a new team member now saves you time laterLeadership isn't about finding people who think like you. It's about creating the conditions for different humans to thrive within your vision. And that requires a level of self awareness and flexibility that most business advice doesn't prepare you for.Bonus: If you're in the thick of training a team, struggling with expectations, or trying to build leadership capacity in your business, our Heartwork Leadership Live event on March 13 and 14 in Knoxville is where we're going deeper into all of this. This isn't a typical leadership workshop. It's heart work meets implementation strategy, and we're keeping it intimate so we can actually go there together. Grab your spot HERE!Connect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcastEmail: [email protected] the show

Sydney Kaye Hagel was sitting in her corporate cubicle, successful by every external measure, and her nervous system was screaming. She had a stable job, benefits, and a wedding to pay for. She'd already built The Wealthy Circle, a community for women she truly cared about. And yet every day she showed up to her corporate role feeling more misaligned, more disconnected from the vision she held for her life. She knew she was meant for more. She just didn't know if she had the guts to choose it. The turning point came when mentors she admired asked her a question that stopped her cold: "Do you think you deserve to be in the room?" That question unlocked everything. Sydney left her corporate job, launched The Cozy Agency, and stepped fully into the identity she'd been holding back for years. This conversation is about what it actually takes to close the gap between who you were and who you're becoming, the hidden cost of people-pleasing, and how to build a brand and a life from authentic identity instead of someone else's blueprint.🔥 In This Episode:The crossroads moment when Sydney realized she had outgrown her corporate identity and what it took to finally walk away, even when it felt financially reckless and emotionally terrifyingWhy your nervous system is your most accurate compass for misalignment and how to use it as a decision-making tool instead of ignoring the signals until you're burned outHow to build a brand from your actual story and senses instead of copying what everyone else is doing, including the five-sense audit that transforms customer experienceThe shift from people-pleasing to boundary-setting and why communicating real feedback makes you a better leader, not a colder oneWhat Sydney learned about hiring for grit and charisma over skill alone, and the one thing candidates do that makes her say yes immediatelyThis conversation disrupts the idea that choosing yourself is selfish. It reveals the truth: dimming your light to keep others comfortable is the real betrayal. When you step into alignment, you don't just change your own life. You give everyone around you permission to do the same.Mark Your Calendar: We're hosting another in-person HeartWork Leadership event March 13th and 14th in Knoxville, TN. If this conversation stirred something in you about stepping fully into your leadership, embodying your truth, and building something that actually feels like yours, this event is where that work happens. Sign up here.Connect with Sydney Kaye Hagel:Website: https://www.getcozy.coInstagram: @wellsaidsyd @the.cozy.agency @wellthycirclePodcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/well-said-with-syd/id1533334441Connect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcastEmail: [email protected] the show

What happens when everything you've built suddenly feels like it was created for someone else's definition of success? Sara found herself asking a question that felt completely foreign: what does my heart actually want? Not what the industry says or what the next level of growth is supposed to look like. Just what does her heart want. And the answer was terrifying because it involved rest, trust, creativity, and play instead of more hustle, more systems, more metrics. This is the conversation about what happens when you stop chasing someone else's version of success and start asking what growth means when it comes from the inside out.🔥 In This Episode:Why growth doesn't always mean more volume, more revenue, more team, and what it looks like to redefine it from the insideThe Italian concept of "dolce far niente" (the sweetness of nothing) and why American hustle culture keeps us disconnected from our heartsHow Sara's best business quarter in three years came from stillness and alignment, not from forcing and strangle-holding productivityThe gap between leading with frameworks versus leading with creativity, and why both matter at different stages of entrepreneurshipWhy sometimes the most growth-oriented thing you can do is make no decision at all and let the path unfoldGrowth can be an internal thing. The metrics, the revenue, the expansion are just the fruit of the work you're doing inside, not something you have to control or rush after or grab. This episode is permission to not always have the answer, to let yourself feel lopsided while building a new muscle, and to trust that 2026 might be one of your best years not because you hustled harder, but because you finally let your heart lead.Mark Your Calendar: We're hosting another in-person HeartWork Leadership event March 13th and 14th in Knoxville, TN. If you're ready to lead from a place that honors both the doing and the dreaming, this weekend is for you. Bring your whole team and experience what happens when you stop forcing growth and start allowing it. Sign up here.Connect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcastEmail: [email protected] the show

You know that moment when you finally collapse on Sunday night after saying yes to everything all week long? When you've skipped lunch to answer emails, scrolled Instagram instead of taking a real break, and promised yourself you'll start taking care of yourself after you hit that next milestone? Here's what nobody tells you about burnout: it doesn't start at work. It doesn't start with your demanding schedule or your chaotic team or your overwhelming to-do list. Burnout starts the moment you said yes to the thing you actually wanted to say no to. It starts when you abandoned yourself for the sake of everyone else. This is the conversation about the internal work of burnout that goes way deeper than self-care Sunday and face masks, where we get honest about the cycles we create, the identity traps we fall into, and what it actually takes to break the pattern of burning yourself out in the name of productivity.🔥 In This Episode:Why burnout is actually "burning the self" and how it's rooted in identity traps formed long before your current situationThe dangerous cycle of over-giving in service professions and why you cannot carry your patients, clients, or team membersWhy your face mask and 15 minutes of red light therapy aren't actually solving your burnout when real self-care means saying noThe practical reality of breaking burnout cycles through awareness, ownership, and asking for healing instead of just pushing throughWhy slower mornings and one intentional change matters more than overhauling your entire life at onceThe life you're building is either going to honor your capacity or deplete it. That choice has always been yours, even when it didn't feel like it. This episode is your invitation to stop martyring yourself in the name of productivity and start asking what you actually need to feel whole.Mark Your Calendar: We're hosting another in-person HeartWork Leadership event March 13th and 14th in Knoxville, TN. If you're tired of conferences that only focus on systems while ignoring the internal work that actually transforms how you lead, this weekend is for you. Bring your whole team and experience what happens when you stop burning out and start building from wholeness. Sign up here.Connect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcastEmail: [email protected] the show

When you're building a team, one of the biggest questions is: what benefits do I actually offer? PTO, sure. But how does it accrue? Do part-time employees get the same as full-time? What about holidays that fall on days you're not even open? And what's fair for maternity leave when you're not a massive corporation with endless resources? This episode is us breaking down the employee benefits we offer in our practices and the logistics behind them. From raise structures to bereavement policies to why floating holidays might solve a problem you didn't know you had.🔥 In This Episode:How to structure raises and performance standards so your team knows exactly where they can grow within your companyPTO accrual systems and why the way you structure it (hours worked vs. anniversary date) matters more than you thinkWhat should be included in bereavement policies beyond just immediate family membersMaternity and paternity leave clauses that work for small businesses, including paid vs. unpaid time and return-to-work expectationsWhy floating holidays solve the problem of holidays that fall on days your business is already closedIf you've been avoiding the benefits conversation because you don't know where to start or what's fair to offer, this episode gives you a framework. You don't have to offer everything, but you do need to be clear about what you're offering and why. And remember: you can always amend your policies as your business grows and situations pop up that you never anticipated.Mark Your Calendar: We're hosting another in-person HeartWork Leadership event March 12th and 13th! This is the deep dive workshop where we walk you through exercises like this in real time and help you build the kind of leadership that actually empowers your team.Connect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcastEmail: [email protected] our Free Self Love Challenge PDFSupport the show

You think you know what you're feeling and why you're feeling it. You've identified the problem, you've made it make sense, you've got a logical explanation. But what if that's just the surface? What if there are deeper layers your heart is inviting you to explore? This episode is us sharing what happened in our recent coaching sessions when we realized there was so much more beneath what we thought we were processing.Marisa shares how she thought she was navigating feelings about team dynamics and her new leadership role, only to discover it was actually about her dad and her husband. Sara shares a visceral dream she thought was about processing assault trauma, only to realize it was inviting her into something completely different about money, protection, and the terror that comes up when she doesn't feel financially secure. This is what it looks like when you stop trying to logic your way through feelings and actually let your heart speak.🔥 In This Episode:Why logic will try to make sense of your feelings but your heart just wants to be seen, heard, and talked toThe invitation to explore something you don't initially resonate with and ask "if this were true, what would have to be true?"How stamping something with approval can actually be a way of avoiding processing a deeper feeling underneathWhy healing and self-discovery literally never stop, and how the well of your heart has untapped potential you haven't even discovered yetThe reminder that things are not always as they seem, and you need someone else to help you see what you can't see on your ownIf you've been doing surface-level work and wondering why you keep hitting the same walls, this episode is your invitation to go deeper. Get a coach. Stop trying to logic your way through heart work. And be willing to discover that the thing you thought it was is probably not actually the thing at all.Mark Your Calendar: We're hosting another in-person HeartWork Leadership event March 12th and 13th! This is the deep dive workshop where we walk you through exercises like this in real time and help you build the kind of leadership that actually empowers your team.Connect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcastEmail: [email protected] our Free Self Love Challenge PDFSupport the show

This year taught us how to recognize when our ego was driving versus when our heart was leading. Sara spent the first half of the year wrapped up in performance, chasing money and success and notoriety, until she started asking herself "is this what my brain thinks I should want, or is this what my heart actually wants?" Marisa navigated building her business, hiring team, creating space for rest, only to realize she's been searching for stability in all the external things instead of finding it within herself. This episode is us reflecting on what 2025 taught us. How our egos got us to where we are (which is beautiful), and also how this year invited us to go deeper and discover what our hearts have been trying to tell us all along.🔥 In This Episode:The difference between building your life from ego (for protection and safety) versus building from your true selfHow comparing your current reality to what you think it should be keeps you from celebrating what's actually workingWhat it means to find internal stability instead of constantly looking for it in your business, your relationships, or your achievementsThe invitation to exist and trust instead of forcing outcomes, and why that's so fucking simple but not easy until you've journeyed through itIf you've been running hard all year and wondering why you still don't feel settled, this episode is your reminder to pause. Reflect on where you've been. Celebrate what's working. And stop measuring your life by metrics that were never meant for you in the first place.Mark Your Calendar: We're hosting another in-person HeartWork Leadership event March 12th and 13th! This is the deep dive workshop where we walk you through exercises like this in real time and help you build the kind of leadership that actually empowers your team.Connect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcastEmail: [email protected] our Free Self Love Challenge PDFSupport the show

We talk a lot about scaling your business, but nobody talks about what it actually takes to scale yourself as a leader first. The truth is, if you're frustrated with your team, resentful of clients who don't show up, or exhausted from giving so much to people who take without reciprocating, the problem isn't them. It's you. And we know that's hard to hear because we've both been there. This episode is about the shift that happens when you move from startup survival mode into actually leading an established business, and why the boundaries you didn't think you needed in year one become non-negotiable by year three.🔥 In This Episode:Why having the same team for a full year changes everything and what it takes to actually get thereThe startup to scaling transition and how your leadership has to evolve when you're no longer just trying to surviveHow to recognize when your ego is disguising itself as generosity and why saying yes to everyone is actually hurting your businessThe red rope analogy and why raising your standards for who gets access to your business is necessary as you scaleThe mirror test: how to look at yourself first when something in your business feels off or out of alignmentIf you're in that messy middle stage where you're no longer a startup but don't quite feel established yet, or if you're realizing that the way you led your business in year one isn't working anymore, this episode is for you. Because you can't scale your business without scaling yourself first. And sometimes that means getting brutally honest about the people, energy, and situations you've been allowing in. We are imperfect leaders leading imperfect human beings, and that's the whole point.Mark Your Calendar: We're hosting another in-person HeartWork Leadership event March 12th and 13th! This is the deep dive workshop where we walk you through exercises like this in real time and help you build the kind of leadership that actually empowers your team.Connect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcastEmail: [email protected] our Free Self Love Challenge PDFSupport the show

We get asked all the time how to become a better leader. And here's the truth nobody wants to hear: it starts with you doing your own inner work first. You can't empower your team if you're not aware of your own stuff. You can't lead people through transformation if you haven't walked through it yourself. This isn't about reading more leadership books or implementing better systems. It's about radical ownership of who you are, what you're creating, and what's getting in your way.🔥 In This Episode:The "I am and I create" framework that will shift how you see yourself, your business, and your leadershipThe four things your brain is constantly seeking (feel good, be right, be in control, look good) and how they keep you stuck in patternsWhy "I cannot, so I should" is laced with guilt and shame, and how to shift to "I am, so I choose to, and I will"The practical ways to invite your team into their own heartwork journey once you've done the work yourselfWhy you have to actually let go when you delegate and how to build trust without micromanagingIf you're tired of surface level leadership tactics and ready to do the real work that creates lasting change in yourself and your team, this episode is your starting point. Because the quality of your leadership is a direct reflection of the quality of your inner work. Stop trying to fix your team and start looking at what you need to own first.Mark Your Calendar: We're hosting another in-person HeartWork Leadership event March 12th and 13th! This is the deep dive workshop where we walk you through exercises like this in real time and help you build the kind of leadership that actually empowers your team.Connect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcastEmail: [email protected] our Free Self Love Challenge PDFSupport the show

We get asked all the time how we convert so many people from pain-based care into wellness and lifestyle adjustments. The answer isn't one magical conversation. It's a hundred small ones that happen from the moment someone sees your website to the moment they sign their wellness plan. You're either guiding the conversation proactively or you're scrambling to convince someone reactively. And one of those feels good, the other feels like you're selling something you shouldn't have to sell.🔥 In This Episode:Why wellness care needs to be communicated from the first phone call, the tour, the paperwork, and every touchpoint before someone ever gets adjustedWhat table talk is and how we use our EHR system to prompt specific conversations at specific visit numbers so nobody falls through the cracksHow to prep conversations at certain visits, reinforce them along the way, and have specific talking points throughout their journey before they finish their initial planWhy sharing stories of other patients (especially the hard cases and the flare-ups) builds more trust than only celebrating the winsThe practice of tracking objections and questions to figure out where you need to add table talk earlier in the journey so you're not reactiveIf you're noticing people dropping off after they feel better, or if you're having to convince people to stay instead of them already expecting to transition into wellness, this episode is your blueprint. Guide the conversation. Don't wait for them to make assumptions in their own heads that you then have to work backward from.Connect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcastEmail: [email protected] our Free Self Love Challenge PDFSupport the show

We're getting ready to close out 2025 and step into 2026, which means vision casting season is here. But before you start setting a million goals that you'll feel like crap about not hitting, we need to talk about the difference between goals and objectives. Goals are specific, time-bound, results-driven. They aim for a destination and if you don't hit it, you can feel like a failure. Objectives are broader, flexible, focused on the journey and the learning along the way. They keep your hands open to magic you didn't even see coming. This episode is our full download on how we do vision casting and annual planning with our teams, why we celebrate before we strategize, why you don't need to plan the whole year in one meeting, and how to create space for your team to dream instead of just checking boxes.🔥 In This Episode:The metrics we actually track in our practices and what we do with that data to inform where we're going nextThe homework we give our team before vision casting so they come prepared to celebrate and dreamHow to structure the meeting so it feels expansive instead of suffocating, and why the order actually mattersHow to break your vision down from big picture objectives into quarterly focus and then monthly actionable stepsThe invitation to loosen your grip on outcomes and celebrate the humans in front of you instead of just checking boxesIf you're someone who sets goals and then beats yourself up when life happens and things shift, this episode is your permission slip to loosen your grip. Celebrate where you've been, understand where you are, and dream about where you want to go. That's what vision casting is actually supposed to be.Connect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcastEmail: [email protected] our Free Self Love Challenge PDFSupport the show

Custom cowgirl hats, fine line tattoos, cold plunges, and conversations that cracked people wide open. We just got back from Scottsdale for our second Expanders retreat with Stephanie Wigner and we are not the same. This is what happens when you stop competing and start calling each other forward. When the goal isn't to impress but to go deeper. When guards come down, ego gets checked at the door, and nobody's pretending anymore.This weekend was about expansion in every direction. Quantum friendships that actually make you better. Honest conversations about how hard you're really working and whether it's even the right kind of work. Recognizing when your ego is trying to lead and choosing presence instead. Learning the difference between storytelling and story-selling. And being reminded that the rooms you choose to be in will either lift you up or keep you comfortable. This is our unfiltered download of everything that shook us, stretched us, and reminded us why we do any of this in the first place.🔥 In This Episode:The difference between storytelling and story-selling, and why your content might be missing the part where you actually invite people into transformationCallan and Steph's conversation about working 60 to 80 hour weeks for a season, and why that's different than committing to a busy life foreverWhy your brand needs to answer simple questions for people who are struggling, not complicated explanations of what you doThe ego activation that happens in rooms like this and how to recognize when you're performing instead of just being presentHow to evaluate whether your mentorship groups are actually encouraging growth or just creating competitionIf you're in containers, masterminds, or mentorship groups right now, take a minute to ask yourself: are these people making me better or am I just trying to keep up? The rooms you put yourself in matter. And the friendships that come from those rooms can literally change the trajectory of your life and your business.Connect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcastEmail: [email protected] our community: The Heart Work Life Facebook Group and download our Free Self Love Challenge PDFSupport the show

If you're noticing your team struggling to close care plans, if you're hearing resistance when you raise prices, if there's a heaviness around financial conversations in your practice, this episode is your invitation to go deeper. We're talking about how to create space for your team to examine their money beliefs without shame. How to get them dreaming again about what's actually possible instead of staying stuck in what currently is. And most importantly, how to lead this work from a place of your own vulnerability and honesty, because your team will only go as deep as you're willing to go first.🔥 In This Episode:Why your team won't convert high-value care plans if they don't personally believe they could afford what you're selling, and how that energy shows up in every patient interactionThe importance of starting with yourself and sharing your own money struggles before expecting your team to open up about theirsHow to use resentment as your indicator that you've crossed a line in giving, and why that signal matters for both your personal life and your leadershipThe practical exercises we've done with our teams: fake money guns, gratitude journals, scavenger hunts with real cash, and abundance vision boardsWhy you need to understand what triggers discomfort in your team around money before you can actually help them shift their perspectiveMoney is energy. Abundance is a choice about how you interpret what's in front of you. And leadership is about inviting people into new perspectives without forcing them into change they're not ready for. This work matters because it's not just about your business thriving. It's about helping your team break generational patterns and step into lives they didn't know were possible.Connect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcastEmail: [email protected] our community: The Heart Work Life Facebook Group and download our Free Self Love Challenge PDFSupport the show

Dr. Jess Bohlke was diagnosed with ovarian cancer at 20 years old. Doctors told her she had five years to live. That diagnosis became the catalyst for everything she's built since: a thriving chiropractic practice, a family, a life she genuinely loves. But here's what she's learning now, eleven years later: surviving and thriving are not the same thing. And the hustle that got her here won't take her where she actually wants to go.This conversation goes deep. We're talking about what happens when you build a beautiful life but realize you've been too busy building to actually live in it. Jess has spent the last seven weeks bedridden with a health crisis, and what she's discovered in that stillness is changing everything about how she shows up as a mother, a leader, and a human being. If you've ever felt like you're performing for your worth, if you're great at creating and building but terrible at just being, this episode is for you.🔥 In This Episode:The validation that came with a cancer diagnosis: when your body was telling you something all along and you finally had proof you weren't weak or crazyHow to strip away the complexity of any health condition and remember that your body was designed to regenerate from the inside out, whether it's a paper cut or stage three cancerWhy Jess invested in a team bigger than she technically needs, and how that one decision changed everything about her leadership and her lifeThe gut check for overgiving: if you're feeling resentment or giving out of fear of losing someone, that's your sign you've crossed a lineWhat the audience would be screaming at you if your life were a movie, and why that question might be the most honest mirror you'll ever look intoYou can't lead other people until you're leading yourself. And you can't lead from a place of wholeness if you're asking your team, your patients, or your family to fill a void inside you. This conversation is about learning to lead from overflow instead of lack, and about finally giving yourself permission to be present in the life you've been working so hard to build.Connect with Jess:Instagram: @drjessbohlke, @journeychiro.kcWebsite: drjessbohlke.com, journeychirokc.comConnect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcastEmail: [email protected] our community: The Heart Work Life Facebook Group and download our Free Self Love Challenge PDFSupport the show

The word "sales" makes most of us want to run in the opposite direction. We didn't become chiropractors, coaches, or service providers to be salespeople. We did it because we genuinely want to help people transform their lives. But here's the uncomfortable truth we're diving into today: if you can't close the sale, you can't create the transformation. And that's not just bad for business. It's bad for the people who desperately need what you offer.This episode is about reframing everything you think you know about objections. They're not actually objections. They're invitations. Invitations to establish authority, to tell stories, to help people see the value they can't quite see for themselves yet. When someone says "I can't afford it" or "I need to think about it," they're not necessarily saying no. They're asking you to help them say yes. And if you're not confident enough, eloquent enough, or practiced enough to handle those moments, you're not just losing a sale. You're potentially changing the trajectory of someone's entire life.🔥 In This Episode:How to handle "It's too expensive" without immediately discounting your service or scrambling to justify your worthThe scale question that changes everything: "On a scale of 1-10, where would you put yourself?" and how it helps you isolate what's really holding them backWhat to do when someone needs to "talk to their spouse," including offering to record yourself so they can share your actual words instead of their overwhelmed versionWhy silence after presenting your offer is your best friend, and how filling that space with nervous energy is sabotaging your sales before people even respondRole playing isn't optional: record yourself answering common objections, listen back, and ask yourself "Would I buy from me?"If you don't show up with passion, fire, and conviction for what you do, that energy will transform someone else's ability to say yes or no. Sales isn't about being salesy. It's about being so grounded in your impact that you can lead people through their own fears and into the life they're asking for.Connect with us: Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcast Email: [email protected] our community: The Heart Work Life Facebook Group and download our Free Self Love Challenge PDFSupport the show

If you've been listening to this podcast, you've heard us talk about Pablo. Our mentor, our coach, the catalyst who nudged us to start this whole thing in the first place. He's the one who saw through the noise when we couldn't see ourselves clearly, who asked the questions that made us uncomfortable in the best way, and who has walked alongside us through our deepest transformations. Today, you finally get to hear from him directly.This conversation is a gift. Not just because you're hearing Pablo's voice and his story, but because his journey from professional tennis coach to heart work guide is woven with the same pain, false identities, and breakthrough moments that so many of us navigate. He doesn't do surface level work. His work comes from a place of having lived it himself, from bleeding life away from his own heart for years before discovering what it actually means to be real instead of good.🔥 In This Episode:How Pablo's childhood trauma and his name change from Juan Pablo to just Pablo became the false identity he built to survive, and the journey of discovering who he actually was underneathThe powerful truth that the tennis court (and life) is a mirror, and getting upset is just breaking the mirror because you don't like what you seeWhy gratitude journals and self help books can start conversations but will never dive you into the actual wounding, and what makes Pablo's work different from traditional therapyThe blueprint concept: we're all given different questions in life, so copying someone else's answers will only destroy your own way because you're using the wrong North StarControl, resignation, or active surrender: the three places we live our lives, and why holding life loosely is the only way to stop the exhausting cycle between forcing and preventingLife is not about being good. Life is about being real. This conversation with Pablo shows you exactly what that means.Connect with Pablo: Website: https://www.tzs.world/ Instagram: @pabgia and @thezonespace Newsletter: Join here Books: Holding On Loosely and The Modern Fig LeafConnect with us: Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcast Email: [email protected] our community: The Heart Work Life Facebook Group and download our Free Self Love Challenge PDFSupport the show

ONE FULL YEAR. AND WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED.What started as a wild idea during a Marco Polo conversation has turned into a full blown movement. Dr. Sara and Dr. Marisa are popping champagne (metaphorically) and celebrating everything this first year has been: the vulnerable conversations, the incredible community that showed up, the first live event that proved people are hungry for this deeper work, and the evolution from nervous first timers to women who flow freely and unapologetically into the realest conversations.This isn't your typical anniversary recap. This is a celebration of what happens when you stop overthinking, start trusting, and let something organic grow into exactly what it's meant to be. From top downloaded episodes to the behind-the-scenes reality of building something meaningful, this episode is pure gratitude, pure fire, and pure excitement for what's coming next.🔥 In This Episode:The top episodes that absolutely crushed it this year and why "From Hot Mess to Heart Yes" still hits exactly what people need when they first discover the podcastThe real talk about what it takes to keep showing up: family processing your vulnerable stories, the social media grind, and why their most recent episodes are always their favorites because growth never stopsHow this community has shown up in the most beautiful ways, from patients using episodes as lifelines to listeners sharing feedback that keeps the fire burningWhy year one was about throwing seeds in a garden to see what grew organically instead of forcing it into a box, and how that freedom created something even better than they imaginedTHE BIG NEWS: Year two is bringing limited in person events, deeper transformational containers, and an invitation for those ready to do the actual work beyond free contentHere we are, one year in and absolutely THRIVING. We've built a community that's hungry for authentic leadership and heart-centered growth, and this is just the beginning. Year two is about to be absolutely electric.Connect with us: Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcast Email: [email protected] our community: The Heart Work Life Facebook Group and download our Free Self Love Challenge PDFSupport the show

Why do we feel guilty when we rest? What makes us believe that simply existing without producing is somehow taking our life for granted? In this continuation of Marisa's Achilles journey, Dr. Sara asks questions that cut straight to the heart. This isn't about physical healing anymore. It's about what happens when a high achiever is forced to sit still long enough to ask: am I worthy just because I exist, or only because of what I produce?🔥 In This Episode:Why we struggle with the belief that rest without productivity means we're wasting our lives and taking our existence for grantedWhy the shift from "should I be doing something?" to recognizing shame as the driver changes everything about how you approach rest and productivityHow tying your stability to external objects like your business means you'll never actually be stable because businesses flow just like life doesThe realization that conscious awareness must come before behavior change, and why knowing the dysfunction doesn't mean you've changed the action yetMarisa's raw revelation about stepping into a new era where the question isn't "can she have it all?" but "what does all actually mean when your worth isn't tied to performance?"This conversation gets to the heart of what happens when you're forced to evaluate where your safety and stability actually come from. Is it within yourself, or is it only connected to the external things you produce? Are you the center pole holding steady, or are you only stable because of all the scarves tied to everyone else? What a gift to be invited into knowing you are loved, valuable, and worthy regardless of all the things you do.Connect with us: Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcast Email: [email protected] our community: The Heart Work Life Facebook Group and download our Free Self Love Challenge PDFSupport the show

Four downloads. Four distinct moments where Dr. Marisa's intuition screamed "stop doing box jumps or you're going to tear your Achilles." And she kept going anyway. Until the pop. This raw conversation captures Marisa one week post surgery discovering that her emotions aren't mutually exclusive, that rest isn't about being productive during downtime, and that sometimes the universe physically removes your ability to keep doing what you've always done so you have no choice but to finally learn the lesson about letting go that you've been resisting all along.🔥 In This Episode:The four intuitive downloads Marisa ignored before tearing her Achilles and what it teaches us about the cost of not listening to our bodies before they force us to stopHow to hold space for feeling both grateful for support and pissed off that this happened without drowning in either emotion or reaching for toxic positivityThe wild timing of being told by her team to let go of control at Heart Work Weekend, then physically losing the ability to mother her team just days laterWhy trying to be productive during rest is actually stealing energy from your healing and the hard lesson of learning that rest means doing nothingThe difference between shoving emotions under the rug to find silver linings versus truly sitting in the messy middle where conflicting feelings can coexistThis isn't just a story about an injury. It's about what happens when you've been building toward a lesson and refuse to slow down enough to receive it. Sometimes your team tells you. Sometimes your intuition warns you. And sometimes your body makes the decision for you. The real work begins when you finally stop fighting the pause and start listening to what it's trying to teach you.Connect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcast Email: [email protected] our community: The Heart Work Life Facebook Group and download our Free Self Love Challenge PDFSupport the show

Sometimes the most powerful business strategy is simply showing up as yourself. Fresh from the Living Brave conference in Denver, Dr. Sara and Dr. Marisa share the paradigm-shifting insight that your story isn't just content, it's your competitive advantage. From Oracle card revelations in workout clothes to learning that your greatest shame might be your biggest offer, this quick episode unpacks how to stop comparing yourself to others and start rising to lead your unique message.🔥 In This Episode:Why storytelling is an artistry and your life experiences are the copy you've been searching forThe shift from asking "what makes me different?" to simply owning what you uniquely offerHow to be the person others are trying to manifest instead of chasing your ideal clientThe profound reminder that your life can only be as wide as your spiritual depthWhy putting yourself in uncomfortable, triggering situations is where your greatest growth livesStop trying to perfect your message and start sharing your story. The people who need exactly what you have are waiting for you to get out of your own way and rise to lead it.Connect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcast Email: [email protected] our community:The Heart Work Life Facebook Group and download our Free Self Love Challenge PDFSupport the show

Here we are at episode 52, exactly one year since we launched The Heart Work Podcast!! From that first vulnerable conversation to hosting our first live event, this year has been proof that when you lead with heart, everything accelerates.This past weekend, practice owners and their teams traded their polished professional facades for something infinitely more powerful. Four months from conception to reality, Dr. Sara and Dr. Marisa's first Heart Work live event became proof of what happens when teams stop performing their way to success and start leading from authentic transformation.This wasn't your typical business seminar. Friday night under the open sky on a Tennessee farm became the foundation for Saturday's breakthrough work at Freedom Chiropractic. What emerged across both days had participants saying "100 out of 10" and "nothing else like this exists."🔥 In This Episode:The intentional decision to create intimacy over impressive numbers and why the perfect size allowed barriers to dissolve and authentic leadership to emergeHow Friday night's foundation of individual radical ownership became Saturday's breakthrough in team dynamics, systems work, and business transformationThe profound shift from asking "how do I get there?" to asking "why do I want that?" and how this one question revolutionizes everything from team buy-in to personal fulfillmentReal moments of team members apologizing, having difficult conversations, and stepping into ownership because the weekend created space for authenticity over avoidanceWhy the most impactful leadership happens when you stop solving problems for others and start posing questions that invite them into their own geniusWhat unfolded wasn't just professional development but permission for an entire room of leaders to remember that doing the inner work isn't about performing better, it's about being well as humans, which inevitably transforms everything else. This is what happens when heart work meets business strategy, and why authentic leadership will always outperform polished perfection.Connect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcast Email: [email protected] our community:The Heart Work Life Facebook Group and download our Free Self Love Challenge PDFSupport the show

Sometimes the universe conspires to put you exactly where you need to be, even when it feels completely out of your comfort zone. What was supposed to be a simple weekend supporting their mentor Stephanie at the Living Brave conference in Denver became something none of them saw coming: a complete rewiring of how they understood surrender, abundance, and the power of showing up as themselves.Sara found herself buying entirely new outfits to get out of her own way and step fully into a conference that celebrated feminine power without apology.  Marisa had breakthrough moments recognizing that the abundance she'd been chasing was already flowing through her life. And in a hotel room with no makeup, wearing pajamas, five women discovered that Oracle cards and raw vulnerability could crack them open in the most beautiful way. This wasn't your typical business conference recap. This was about what happens when you're brave enough to be uncomfortable and trust that your story is being written with more magic than you could have planned.🔥 In This Episode:Why putting yourself in triggering situations is actually the fastest path to discovering who you really are (and Sara's honest take on buying new clothes to feel like she belonged)Marisa's mirror moment with limiting beliefs: "You are not a failure if your business fails" and how that revelation changed everything about how she sees abundanceWhy your presence radiates a frequency that people feel before you even speak, and how showing up as yourself is the only strategy that mattersThe beautiful truth about surrender that doesn't mean giving up but removing the obstructions to let life flow through youWhy life mirrors exactly what you're putting out into the world and how to trust your story instead of chasing someone else'sStop chasing other people's stories. Your life is already being written with more beauty and magic than you could have predicted. When you show up as your full self, trust the uncomfortable moments, and surrender the need to control every outcome, the universe doesn't just conspire to help you — it creates space for the kind of transformation that makes you unrecognizable to who you were before.Connect with us: Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcast Email: [email protected] Join our community: The Heart Work Life Facebook Group and download our Free Self Love Challenge PDFSupport the show

What happens when you look back at your childhood through the lens of everything you've learned about healing? When you watch old family videos and suddenly see patterns that were invisible to your younger self? When you realize that the stories your family told about love, loyalty, and sacrifice were actually blueprints for generational patterns you never chose but somehow inherited?This episode takes you deep into the messy, beautiful work of family healing. Both Dr. Sara and Dr. Marisa share their raw, unfiltered journeys through setting boundaries with family members they love deeply, navigating the complex emotions that arise when you choose your own healing over keeping the peace, and discovering that sometimes the most loving thing you can do is create space for everyone to grow. From four-year periods of necessary distance to unexpected reconnections that feel like coming home, this conversation explores what it really takes to break generational cycles while keeping your heart open.🔥 In This Episode:How revisiting childhood memories through an adult lens can reveal generational patterns and traumas you never recognized beforeThe profound difference between carrying guilt for someone else's emotions versus protecting your own energy while staying open to loveWhy boundaries aren't walls but rather bridges that create space for authentic healing and genuine relationshipThe messy, non-linear journey of family healing and how trust can be rebuilt when you've done your own inner work firstHow to navigate the complex emotions that arise when family dynamics shift and change, including grief for relationships that never wereThis isn't just another conversation about family drama. This is about the deep, necessary work of breaking generational cycles while still honoring the love that exists within imperfect family systems. It's about learning to hold space for multiple truths simultaneously and finding your way back to authentic connection through the courage to be honest about what you need.Connect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcastEmail: [email protected] our community: The Heart Work Life Facebook Group and download our Free Self Love Challenge PDFBONUS: Are you ready to discover what it means to build something beautiful with your team? Join us September 12th and 13th in Knoxville, Tennessee for a leadership experience where people don't just show up, they come alive. This isn't your typical conference. It's where heart meets strategy and your team learns to thrive together. Limited spots available! Register at: https://theheartwork.myflodesk.com/leadershipconferenceSupport the show

Picture this: You're four weeks old, breathing in flour dust at your family's pasta shop in South Jersey. Your Italian grandmother's stories of hiding Jewish families during World War II are woven into Sunday dinners. Your cousins are your best friends, your godfather is your hero, and you believe this unbreakable bond will last forever. Then one day, everything shatters. The business splits, invitations stop coming, and suddenly you're collateral damage in a war you never signed up for.This week, Dr. Marisa opens her heart wide to share the raw, unfiltered story of how her tight-knit Italian family fell apart over business drama and generational wounds. But this isn't just about family feuds or pasta shops. It's about what happens when you choose forgiveness over resentment, when you decide to show up as yourself instead of carrying someone else's pain, and when you realize that sometimes the most radical thing you can do is simply say hello.🔥 In This Episode:The generational trauma that gets passed down like family recipes, and how Marisa recognized she was carrying resentments that weren't even hers to holdWhy showing up authentically in painful situations doesn't mean being a doormat or dishonoring your mother's experienceThe moment Marisa realized she could interact with estranged family members without that tight knot of hurt consuming her from the insideHow forgiveness isn't about forgetting or reconciling, but about freeing yourself from the weight of someone else's choicesThe powerful difference between reacting from years of accumulated pain versus responding from your authentic self in the present momentWhat if the people who hurt you are also just carrying their own wounds? What if forgiveness isn't about fixing relationships, but about refusing to let someone else's dysfunction dictate how you move through the world? Marisa's story proves that you can honor your pain, protect your peace, and still choose love over bitterness.The truth is, these same dynamics play out in every team, every organization, every group of humans trying to build something together. When we learn to show up authentically instead of reacting from old wounds, we transform not just our families, but our businesses too.BONUS: Are you ready to discover what it means to build something beautiful with your team? Join us September 12th and 13th in Knoxville, Tennessee for a leadership experience where people don't just show up, they come alive. This isn't your typical conference. It's where heart meets strategy and your team learns to thrive together. Limited spots available! Register at: https://theheartwork.myflodesk.com/leadershipconferenceConnect with us: Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcast Email: [email protected] our community:The Heart Work Life Facebook Group and download our Free Self Love Challenge PDFSupport the show

What happens when everyone tells you your dreams won't work, but that inner voice keeps getting louder? Dr. Andy and Dr. Kailey Armor moved to Montana with a month's notice, built Compass Chiropractic against all odds, and discovered that uncertainty isn't something to fear, it's where expansion lives.This conversation goes deep into the identity work required to build alongside your partner without losing yourselves. From Andy's journey discovering that vulnerability makes men stronger, not weaker, to Kailey's process of finding her voice again after becoming a mother, they reveal what it takes to trust your inner compass when building both business and family. Now as founders of Chiro Couples, they're helping other entrepreneurial partnerships navigate the space between ambition and connection.🔥 In This Episode:Why moving from the boardroom to the bedroom requires intentional navigation and specific systemsHow fear of uncertainty and failure are actually superpowers every entrepreneur must developThe identity audit that helps you separate who you actually are from the noise others project onto youWhy men doing emotional work isn't about becoming soft, it's about building unshakeable confidenceTheir 2-2-3 rule that saves marriages while scaling businesses (and it's simpler than you think)How decision fatigue is killing your momentum and why making choices quickly creates clarityWhat it looks like to trust your inner compass when everyone else says you're heading the wrong wayThis conversation cuts through the surface-level business advice and gets to the heart of what it actually takes to build alongside your partner without losing yourself or each other. Andy and Kailey prove that when you do the deep work of knowing who you are and what you want, everything else becomes a decision you can make with confidence.BONUS: Join us September 12th-13th in Knoxville, Tennessee for a leadership weekend that breaks every conference rule. Ground into nature with your team on Friday, then workshop real challenges inside Dr. Sara's actual practice on Saturday. Work directly with leadership teams who've built what you're trying to create. Whether you come solo or bring everyone, you'll leave with clarity and practical tools that transform your workplace culture. Limited spots available! Register at: https://theheartwork.myflodesk.com/leadershipconferenceConnect with Dr. Andy and Dr. Kailey Armor:Website: www.compasschirowf.com, www.chirocouple.comInstagram: @k_cox12, @dr.andy_armor, @chiro_couplesPrograms: Realigned Event (August 30th), 8-Week Coaching Program (Coming Fall 2025)Connect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcast Email: [email protected] our community:The Heart Work Life Facebook Group and download our Free Self Love Challenge PDFSupport the show

You've built the perfect systems, streamlined every process, and optimized every workflow. Your business should be humming like a well-oiled machine. But something's missing. Your team shows up, does the work, and goes home. They're following the playbook, but where's the spark? Where's the passion that transforms a group of employees into a force that makes clients feel something extraordinary?That's exactly why Dr. Sara and Dr. Marisa are creating something completely different this September in Knoxville, Tennessee. A leadership workshop weekend where you don't just learn about team culture—you experience it. Where you don't go back and try to translate what you learned to your team—you bring them with you. Join us September 12th-13th in Knoxville, Tennessee for a leadership weekend that breaks every conference rule. Friday afternoon starts on a stunning property where you'll ground into nature, reconnect with your purpose alongside your team, and enjoy a farm-to-table dinner by a private chef. Saturday brings you into Dr. Sara's actual practice to workshop real challenges with teams who've built what you're trying to create. You'll work directly with their leadership teams, navigate hard conversations, and discover how to bring heart into your systems without losing accountability.This is for entrepreneurs, practice owners, and their entire teams. Whether you come solo, bring your leadership team, or bring everyone—you all experience this together. No more going back to translate what you learned. No more hoping your team "gets it." You'll leave Saturday with clarity, connection, and practical tools that transform your workplace culture from the inside out.The leaders who get things done don't wait. Limited spots available! Register at: https://theheartwork.myflodesk.com/leadershipconferenceConnect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcast Email: [email protected] our community:The Heart Work Life Facebook Group and download our Free Self Love Challenge PDFSupport the show

Picture this: you're so committed to serving everyone that you literally can't walk. Dr. Nikki Cottis was adjusting patients in professional heels, over-giving her way to financial struggle, until she tore her Achilles. When the orthopedist said she needed eight weeks off for surgery, Nikki knew something had to radically change.What unfolded was a complete identity reconstruction. She went from the woman who thought she had to save all of Alabama to the systems genius who teaches practitioners how to create sustainable practices without losing their hearts.🔥 In This Episode:The moment her body literally stopped her from over-giving and how that physical breakdown became her greatest breakthroughWhy switching from heels to sneakers wasn't just about comfort but about stepping into authentic alignmentHow COVID stripped away all the excess and revealed what actually creates growth in practiceThe difference between capacity limits that are real versus the lies we tell ourselves about what we can handleHow asking ChatGPT to help her be a better coach revealed she wasn't celebrating her own winsThe conversation every team leader needs to have about life seasons, responsibilities, and shared graceNikki proves that the most powerful systems are built on understanding humans, not controlling them. She shows us what happens when you stop apologizing for wanting structure while still crying with your patients, and that you can demand excellence while honoring everyone's different life seasons.Nikki's journey from the woman who couldn't say no to the coach who helps others find their capacity reminds us that sometimes the most radical act is admitting you're not that serious all the time. She's a Penn State football fanatic who wants to be known as someone's funniest best friend, building something meaningful while staying completely, unapologetically herself.BONUS: Are you ready to discover what it means to build something beautiful with your team? Join us September 12th and 13th in Knoxville, Tennessee for a leadership experience where people don't just show up, they come alive. This isn't your typical conference. It's where heart meets strategy and your team learns to thrive together. Limited spots available! Register at: https://theheartwork.myflodesk.com/leadershipconferenceConnect with Dr. Nikki Cottis: Website: chiroconnectgulfshores.com Coaching Platform: The Wealthy Practitioner Instagram: @drnikkicottis Podcast: Aligned for SuccessConnect with us: Instagram: Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcast Email: [email protected] our community:The Heart Work Life Facebook Group and download our Free Self Love Challenge PDFSupport the show

Picture this: You're the CEO of your practice, but every decision still runs through your brain. Every metric, every strategy, every team challenge lands squarely on your shoulders. Sound familiar? Today's conversation dives deep into the messy, magnificent reality of what it actually takes to build a team that thinks like owners, not just employees. Dr. Sara and Dr. Marisa unpack the evolution from solopreneur to strategic leader, sharing the exact frameworks they use to develop team members who ask the same questions they'd ask as business owners.This isn't about micromanaging with fancy spreadsheets. This is about creating a culture where your team becomes so invested in the business's health that they start solving problems before you even know they exist.🔥 In This Episode:The three essential questions every team member needs to answer monthly to understand their role's impact on business healthHow to identify impact drivers versus KPIs and why most practice owners get this backwardsThe strategic difference between developing leaders who execute tasks versus leaders who think like CEOsReal examples of role-specific health indicators that transformed team accountability in both practicesWhy quarterly strategic reviews create sustainable growth instead of constant firefightingThe art of inviting team members to co-create their own success metrics instead of imposing top-down goalsNavigating the delicate balance between small business execution and scalable systems without getting your cart before your horseHere's what this conversation really reveals: the businesses that thrive aren't the ones with the smartest owners—they're the ones where everyone on the team operates from the same strategic mindset. When your team starts asking the questions you'd ask and bringing their own unique genius to it, that's when you know you've built something sustainable. If you're curious about how you can develop this kind of strategic thinking with your team, join us for The Heartwork Leadership Workshop Weekend in Knoxville, Tennessee this September 2025. This isn't just another conference, it's where you and your team discover what it means to build something beautiful together, creating a culture where people don't just show up, they come alive. Limited spots available! Register at: https://theheartwork.myflodesk.com/leadershipconferenceConnect with us: Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcast Email: [email protected] our community:The Heart Work Life Facebook Group and download our Free Self Love Challenge PDFSupport the show

Picture this: You're killing it in real estate, everyone calls you "one of the best," money's flowing in—and you're literally writing in your journal that meetings make you nauseous. That was Callan Faulkner's reality until a ChatGPT demo in July 2023 flipped her entire world upside down.Most people would've pushed through the sick feeling, stayed for the "security." Not Callan. She shut down her profitable land investment business, launched The Uncommon Business Co., and built it to $4 million in revenue at 40% margins in just 18 months. Now she trains what she calls "high-frequency humans" to use AI without losing their souls. Turns out, following your obsessions over your obligations is actually a business strategy.🔥 In This Episode:Why your body's "no" is actually divine guidance trying to save you—and how Callan's nausea in land meetings led to her AI obsessionWhy emotional regulation and nervous system work ARE business strategies for building sustainable successHow to activate your team's highest potential instead of keeping them busy with low-level tasksThe hiring philosophy that changed everything: asking about trauma and choosing frequency over skillHer mission to free "Donna" from 30 years of cubicle fluorescent lights—and why AI fluency will matter as much as email skillsThis conversation will mess with everything you think you know about business, success, and what it means to build something that matters. Callan's not just teaching AI—she's showing us how to stay human while we rebuild the world.BONUS: Join us for The Heartwork Leadership Workshop Weekend in Knoxville, Tennessee this September 2025! This isn't just another conference—it's where you and your team discover what it means to build something beautiful together. We're filling the gap that's been missing in our profession: how to create a culture where people don't just show up, they come alive. From intimate development sessions at Freedom Chiropractic to transformational experiences on a stunning private property, this weekend is designed for solo entrepreneurs, high-level team members, and entire teams ready to align around something bigger. Limited spots available—register at: https://theheartwork.myflodesk.com/leadershipconferenceConnect with Callan:Website: https://theuncommonbusiness.coInstagram: @callanfaulknerEmail: [email protected] in one of Callan’s Programs: Start with Foundations of AI (3-hour course)Get on the waitlist for Automate to Accelerate (Fall 2025)Connect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcast Email: [email protected] our community:The Heart Work Life Facebook Group and download our Free Self Love Challenge PDFSupport the show

What does it actually take to evolve from shouldering every decision, every stress, every late-night task alone to genuinely enjoying your practice again? This isn't about productivity hacks or delegation tactics - this is about rediscovering the joy that brought you into this work in the first place, and learning how to build something beautiful with other people.Dr. Sara and Dr. Marisa dive deep into the transformation that happens when you stop trying to be everything to everyone and start creating space for others to step into their brilliance alongside you. From recognizing the lies we tell ourselves about being indispensable, to the profound relief of sharing both the load and the victories with associate doctors and high-level team members, to watching your people grow beyond what they thought possible - this conversation explores what it really means to build something sustainable and joyful. They examine how releasing the death grip on control doesn't make you less of a leader; it makes you the kind of leader people want to follow and grow with.🔥 In This Episode:The moment you realize you never want to practice alone again and what that shift actually feels likeHow to navigate the vulnerability of being truly seen and supported by your teamWhy some entrepreneurs stay trapped in solo stress patterns and how to break freeThe specific identity work required before sustainable collaboration becomes possibleCreating systems where individual growth and collective vision amplify each otherThis conversation challenges the narrative that successful entrepreneurs must sacrifice joy and connection for growth. Instead, Dr. Sara and Dr. Marisa show how building with high-level team members creates a multiplier effect where everyone's growth amplifies the impact you can make together.BONUS: We're announcing our first-ever Team and Leadership Workshop Weekend in Knoxville this September! This intensive will focus on heart-centered leadership development and creating cultures where both you and your team can thrive. Stay tuned for details.Connect with us: Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcast Email: [email protected] our community:The Heart Work Life Facebook Group and download our Free Self Love Challenge PDFSupport the show

What happens when you're having your best month in two years and then one slow day sends you spiraling into "what if I have to fire everyone and change everything"? When the very success you've worked so hard to build becomes the thing that triggers your deepest fears about worthiness, sustainability, and whether you're chasing the right things?Dr. Sara gets vulnerable about her recent fear spiral - from celebrating record profits to panicking about summer volume drops in the span of a week. But here's what's beautiful: this isn't a story about failure or weakness. This is about what happens when you've done enough inner work that a trigger that used to derail you for days now gets processed in 10 minutes. Dr. Sara and Dr. Marisa dive into the three powerful questions their coach Pablo asked that cut straight to the heart of what was really happening: Are you chasing an idol? Are you flowing in your lane or someone else's? Are you being distracted from your main thing?🔥 In This Episode:How success can become an idol that keeps you trapped in performance cyclesThe difference between your potential and your limits (and why crossing that line takes you away from your calling)Why volume-based metrics can trick you into thinking impact only comes from seeing more peopleHow to recognize when seasonal business fluctuations trigger deeper identity fearsThe evolution from needing days to process triggers to handling them in minutesThis conversation challenges every entrepreneur who's ever felt like they're one bad day away from losing everything they've built. Dr. Sara and Dr. Marisa show how the triggers that feel like setbacks are actually invitations to go deeper, get clearer on your vision, and stop sacrificing your life to chase someone else's definition of success.Resources Mentioned:"Train Analogy" episode"Hell Yes or Hell No" episodeFree Self Love Challenge PDFBONUS: We're announcing our first-ever Team and Leadership Workshop Weekend in Knoxville this September! This intensive will focus on heart-centered leadership development and creating cultures where both you and your team can thrive. Stay tuned for details.Connect with us: Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcast Email: [email protected] our community:The Heart Work Life Facebook Group and download our Free Self Love Challenge PDFSupport the show

What do you do when that voice inside gets so loud you can't ignore it anymore? When your body literally feels like it's on fire until you take action? For Dr. Stephanie Wigner, that divine whisper turned into a roar that led her to build three seven figure businesses in five years while raising a family, drinking Mountain Valley Spring water, and renting red Ferraris without apology.This isn't your typical "hustle harder" success story. This is about a woman who grew up navigating parents with addiction, never quite fitting in with her outdoorsy family because she didn't like getting dirty, and channeling that outsider energy into something extraordinary. Stephanie went from working for someone else for 10 months (until her body screamed "NOPE") to building an empire that includes five chiropractic offices and The Wealthy Practitioner coaching company that's turning the entire industry upside down.🔥 In This Episode:Why that divine voice gets louder until you finally listen and how to trust it completelyHow to scale from 12 hours of back to back coaching calls to systems that work without youWhy she fired a seven figure client who wouldn't do the work (and how that changed everything)Navigating the fear of success when you're already visible and about to get MORE visibleThe real conversation about money, judgment, and why people get triggered by your successHow she and Kyle navigate building empires while protecting their marriage and energyHer vision for speaking on Tony Robbins level stages and why she's creating her own insteadStop apologizing for wanting more. This episode is pure permission to dream so big it scares you, to trust that voice that's been whispering (or screaming), and to build something that makes massive impact without sacrificing the people you're building it for. Stephanie proves that when you do the work, listen to your intuition, and refuse to dim your light, the universe conspires to make space for your expansion.Connect with Stephanie:Instagram: @drstephaniewignerBusiness Instagram: @wealthypractitionersWebsite: www.stephaniewigner.comPodcast: The Wealthy PractitionerConnect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcastEmail: [email protected] our community:The Heart Work Life Facebook GroupSupport the show

What happens when you find yourself sitting on a couch with a gun in your hand, contemplating ending it all because of a toxic relationship? For multimillion-dollar real estate agent Lauren House, it was her cat Bentley and a fierce refusal to let someone else "win" that sparked one of the most raw transformation stories we've ever heard.This episode gets real about the messiness of rebuilding yourself after surviving a narcissistic, psychopathic relationship that stripped away your identity. Lauren doesn't sugarcoat anything. From the black heart numbness that follows trauma to setting boundaries as an attractive woman in business who refuses to work with men who "just want to bang me," this conversation is for anyone who's ever lost themselves and had to claw their way back to wholeness.🔥 In This Episode:Why she stayed in a toxic relationship for two and a half years and the "God moment" that broke the spellHer "black heart theory" and navigating emotional numbness while still showing up for lifeHow healing isn't linear and you can't predict what will trigger you until you're back in the situationBuilding a multimillion-dollar real estate empire while doing deep inner workExpanding from Scottsdale to Miami and why romanticizing dreams doesn't match realityThe reality of attracting mini versions of toxic partners until you do your own healing workStop choosing between healing and building your empire. This episode proves that when you refuse to let someone else define your worth, when you do the brutal work of looking in the mirror and transforming from the inside out, you can build something extraordinary from the ashes of who you used to be.Connect with Lauren:Personal Instagram: @laurenmhouseBusiness Instagram: @realbrokerageEmail: [email protected]: https://laurenmhouse.com/Book: "Entrepreneurial Insight: 102 Quotes to Shape Your Path with Perspective" https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CV4QQ99WConnect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcastEmail: [email protected] our community:The Heart Work Life Facebook GroupSupport the show

What happens when the chiropractor who built one of Utah's leading family wellness practices realizes she's been sacrificing everything to prove her worth? Dr. Sara and Dr. Marisa sit down with Dr. Kristina Kill (formerly Stitcher) for the most raw conversation yet about the brutal cost of having no boundaries, the health crises that forced her to face hard truths, and why sometimes loving your profession means learning to say no.This episode isn't just about chiropractic, it's about the courage to rebuild your entire approach to success when you realize you've been running on fumes and calling it passion. From spinal fusion surgery to divorce, from cancer to finding her voice again, Dr. Kristina proves that your deepest challenges aren't derailing your purpose, they're refining it.🔥 In This Episode:The moment Dr. Kristina realized "getting adjusted" wasn't enough when she was pushing herself beyond physical limitsHow weight struggles, spinal surgery, and health crises became her greatest teachers about authentic service"Care but don't carry" — the boundary that will revolutionize how you serve patientsThe power of saying "we're not a good fit" with love and watching the universe deliver the right patientsWhy the profession's "prove yourself" mentality is killing practitioners and how to break free through authentic boundariesAfter 21 years, a spinal fusion, cancer, divorce, and complete practice transformation, Dr. Kristina has MORE fire in her belly now than when she started. Because real success isn't about proving you can handle everything. It's about knowing what deserves your energy and what doesn't.Connect with Dr. Kristina Kill:Website: PracticeEvolution.comEmail: [email protected]: @kristinakillPodcast: Chiropractic EvolutionPractice: Family First Chiropractic & Wellness Center Connect with us: Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcastEmail: [email protected] our community:The Heart Work Life Facebook GroupSupport the show

Sometimes the best moments in business happen when everything goes hilariously, beautifully off-script. Dr. Sara and Dr. Marisa dive into the wild, wonderful, and wonderfully weird world of running a family chiropractic practice where six-year-olds lick ankles, grandmothers flash the lobby, and toddlers want cowboy boots "just like Dr. M's."This episode is pure joy wrapped in honest conversation about what it really means to create a culture where humans can be fully, authentically human. From navigating wardrobe malfunctions during scans to being someone's inspiration for bangs (yes, really), these stories remind us that the magic happens in the unscripted moments.🔥 What You'll Hear:Why a little girl pretending to be a dog taught them everything about meeting people where they areThe art of staying professional when patients forget the "pants stay on" ruleHow team pranks and TikTok trends create the kind of workplace culture people actually want to be part ofWhen being looked up to means everything from hairstyle choices to shoe preferencesThe beautiful vulnerability of working with families through every season of lifeThe Real Talk: This isn't just about funny patient stories. It's about recognizing that behind every business are real humans with real needs, and sometimes the most profound leadership lessons come from unexpected moments of connection and chaos.These aren't just "work stories." They're reminders that when you show up with your whole heart, create space for others to do the same, and find joy in the beautifully messy reality of human connection, that's when the real magic happens. That's when work becomes more than work. That's when you're not just running a practice – you're creating a place where people belong.Connect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcastEmail: [email protected] our community:The Heart Work Life Facebook GroupSupport the show

What happens when you realize the "safe" path isn't actually serving your soul? Kevin Green knows this tension intimately. From corporate chef to high school educator to personal chef turned professional speaker, Kevin's journey is a masterclass in listening to that inner voice that says "you're made for more" - even when it means walking away from security.This conversation shares about the courage it takes to step into your authentic voice after years of playing small. Kevin shares the pivotal moments that forced him to confront his own limiting beliefs, the toxic business partnership that became his greatest teacher, and why he spent years "in the closet" - afraid to share his opinion or claim his seat at the table.🔥 In This Episode:Kevin's "Three P's" framework: Purpose, Passion, and Potential as the foundation for creating a life you loveThe difference between living with closed fist control versus open-handed trustHow a toxic business partnership and unexpected divorce became his greatest teachers about boundaries and self-worthWhy perfectionism and the need for certainty kept him playing small for yearsThe art of taking "responsible risks" while building something meaningfulThe Heart Work Moment: Kevin's revelation that "questions cause anxiety, but periods produce power" - and what it means to live from a place of security rather than scrambling for certainty.This episode reminds us that your story - even the messy, imperfect, still-being-written parts - is exactly what someone else needs to hear. Sometimes the greatest risk isn't jumping into the unknown; it's staying silent when you have something important to say.Connect with Kevin:Instagram: @chefkevinculinaryTikTok: @kevingreenelevatesLinkedIn: @kevingreenelevatesWebsite: kevingreenelevates.comConnect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcastEmail: [email protected] our community:The Heart Work Life Facebook GroupSupport the show

What do great relationships and thriving businesses have in common? They both fail when you're only focused on the end goal instead of showing up intentionally every day. Dr. Sara and Dr. Marisa get raw about the messy reality of transitioning from boss mode to wife mode, why "How was your day?" conversations aren't cutting it anymore, and the uncomfortable truth about growing together versus growing apart.This episode dives deep into the real talk about maintaining intimate connection while chasing big dreams. From weekly marriage check-ins that prevent roommate syndrome to navigating wildly different work schedules, this conversation is for anyone who refuses to choose between love and ambition.🔥 In This Episode:The art of shedding your "entrepreneur armor" when you walk through your front doorHow to handle the 80/20 seasons when one partner needs to carry more weightWeekly marriage meetings that actually work (and why they're non-negotiable)The difference between independence and interdependence in relationshipsLeading by example when you want your partner to do their own inner workWhy scheduling spontaneity isn't an oxymoron - it's survivalCreating sacred transitions between work energy and home energyStop choosing between building your empire and nurturing your most important relationship. This episode proves that when you show up intentionally for love, everything else gets easier - including success.Connect with us: Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcast Email: [email protected] our community: The Heart Work Life Facebook Group as we're gearing up for our 7 day self-love journey starting June 8th, 2025!Support the show

What happens when you stop following someone else's roadmap and start creating a life that aligns with your deepest values? This week, the magnetic Emily Elias joins us for a soul-stirring conversation about finding your path, creating boundaries between work and home, and stepping into authentic leadership.When COVID forced a pivot in Emily and her husband Alejandro's plans, they didn't panic—they paused to ask deeper questions about what truly mattered to them.🔥 In This Episode:Her inspiring vision to build 300 clinics—a legacy that might extend beyond her lifetimeHow Emily discerns between friction that signals growth versus discomfort that signals misalignmentThe profound truth about delegating: "Just because you can do it all doesn't mean you should"Why Emily believes balance is an absolute myth, and the two non-negotiables she focuses on insteadHow stepping into motherhood helped Emily reclaim her identity beyond business partnershipsEmbracing a vision larger than yourself while staying grounded in day-to-day purposeEmily's life in Abilene, Texas—a place with tumbleweeds and barrel racing—wasn't the mountain paradise she initially envisioned, but it became the perfect foundation for her family and practice.This conversation is a masterclass in discernment, offering practical wisdom for entrepreneurs navigating the complex dance between ambition and wholeness.This isn't just another conversation about practice building—it's permission to design a life that honors all aspects of who you are.Connect with Emily:Instagram: @dr.emily.eliasPath to Victory Podcast: Listen on SpotifyWebsite: pathtovictorychiro.comConnect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcastEmail: [email protected] our community:The Heart Work Life Facebook GroupReady to step into your most authentic leadership? Dr. Sara is launching The Authentic Leader's Path—an 8-week transformation journey for leaders ready to break free from imposter syndrome and lead from their authentic selves. If you're ready to stop hiding behind what you think leadership should look like and start embodying who you truly are, this is your invitation.Drop Dr. Sara a DM on Instagram @drsaranelsongray or find her on Facebook, and she'll get you all the details you need. Registration closes May 27th, and there are only a few spots left!! Support the show

Episode 34: From Burnout to Boundaries to BrillianceThis episode flips the script as we step into the guest seats on Amin Said's Beyond Adjustments podcast for a conversation that cuts straight through the highlight-reel version of leadership to the messy, beautiful truth underneath.In This Episode:This isn't another "10 steps to better team culture" conversation. It's about what happens in those raw Monday moments when your careful systems crack open to reveal the human heart beneath them.We dove deep into the questions leaders rarely address out loud:What actually causes burnout? (Hint: it's not your workload—it's what you're abandoning in yourself to maintain it)How do you set expectations without building walls? The delicate dance between kindness and strength that doesn't sacrifice eitherThe courage to stop micromanaging—and why letting your team fail might be the most powerful leadership move you'll ever makeWhat it really means when someone exits your practice (and why that might be the exact thing both of you need)We dug deep into those B-words everyone loves to throw around—burnout, boundaries, and balance—and why they're often misunderstood. Rather than wearing exhaustion as a badge of honor, we explored how setting expectations (not just boundaries) and refusing to abandon yourself creates more sustainable success.The truth? When you're compromising pieces of yourself that were never meant to be given away in the first place, no amount of systems or structure can save you from eventual collapse.If this conversation stirred something in you, we'd love to continue it. The Heart Work podcast explores these topics and more—giving you permission to be messy, authentic, and wholeheartedly yourself while still building something extraordinary.Connect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcastEmail: [email protected] our community: The Heart Work Life Facebook GroupConnect with Amin:Apple Podcasts: Beyond AdjustmentsInstagram:@beyondchirogrowthSupport the show

What happens when you finally stop performing for approval and start creating from the depths of who you truly are? This week, the magnificent Bailey Sloan joins us for a soul-stirring conversation about shedding identities that no longer serve and stepping boldly into leadership that feels like coming home to yourself.Bailey's evolution from high-capacity church service through divorce to co-founding Cadence Chiropractic isn't just impressive, it's revolutionary. Her practice achieved its most successful year just two years after opening, but the real wealth? It's in the transformation of her leadership.🔥 In This Episode:The exquisite tension between friendship and partnership when building a business with your best friendWhy being "the best #2" might be the identity holding you back from claiming your true powerThe profound moment Bailey realized her worth wasn't tied to church attendance or performance metricsCreating a workplace culture where vulnerability isn't just accepted—it's the foundation of authentic leadershipThe transformative shift from "what do you want me to do?" to "what do I actually want to create?"How Bailey's relationship with money evolved from religious guilt to "I want more money so I can have more fun and do more good"Bailey reveals, "I worked my way into achieving the life I didn't want. That all came from not being authentic to who I am." Her team now starts each morning with vibe checks because "faking it till you make it is actually faking it till you break it."Perhaps our favorite insight: "Trust that your next season doesn't have to be the next step in the game plan. When you sense a grace being over a season, a place, or a person, do the inner work to sit with yourself and see where that grace is leading you next."This isn't just another business conversation, it's permission to stop apologizing for your evolution and start embracing the leadership that only you can bring to the world.Connect with Bailey:Instagram: @baileyysloanCadence Chiropractic: @cadencechiroConnect with us:Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcastEmail: [email protected] our community:The Heart Work Life Facebook GroupSupport the show