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edgeX's Explosive Q4: RWA Perps, Upcoming TGE & Circle Integration
Research Analyst @CryptoRick98 sits down with KF, co-founder of edgeX, to break down the State of edgeX Q4 2025 report. The conversation covers edgeX's explosive growth in TVL, perp trading volume, and fees — all achieved amid one of the most volatile quarters in crypto history.KF also discusses edgeX's upcoming TGE, the Circle Ventures investment and native USDC integration, RWA perps now making up 20-30% of total volume, the Maru community token, and the team's long-term vision for an AI agent trading economy.-Introduction: 0:00-Platform Growth: 0:36-October 10 Market Event: 2:50-Trading Volume: 5:31-Fees & Treasury: 7:39-DEX Competition: 9:52-Product Expansion: 12:38-Partnerships & Future: 19:17Follow Messari on Twitter: https://x.com/MessariCrypto Follow Fully Diluted on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?nd=1&dlsi=ba41bca8012548dfFollow Fully Diluted on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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Equity Perps, Uniswap Buybacks & BitTensor's Decentralized Inference
In episode 21 of Messari's Fully Diluted, Alex Beaudry is joined by analysts Hayden Booms, Dillon Shirley, and Qorban Ferrell to break down the most important moves happening across DeFi, derivatives, and on-chain AI. The team dives deep into Hyperliquid's HIP3 markets, Uniswap's fee switch expansion to L2s, and the rising Venice AI (VVV) controversy.Dylan brings real volume data showing that Hyperliquid's HIP3 markets — led by TradeXYZ's equity and commodity perps — have become a legitimate venue for weekend price discovery, with Bloomberg now paying attention and 90% of weekend directional trades proving correct. The team debates whether pre-IPO HIP3 markets can compete with Polymarket, and what revenue sharing or synthetic ownership mechanics would need to look like to drive meaningful volume.0:33 - Introductions1:42 - HIP-3 Market Overview11:54 - Uniswap Proposal14:38 - UNI Token Impact16:19 - DEX Competition22:22 - Venice Project & AI Privacy35:59 - On-Chain Activity39:44 - ConclusionFollow Messari on Twitter: https://x.com/MessariCrypto Follow Fully Diluted on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpw...Follow Fully Diluted on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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How USD.AI Disrupts Private Credit with On-Chain GPU Financing
Conor Moore, co-founder and COO of USD.AI, joins Messari's Fully Diluted podcast to discuss the emerging on-chain credit market for GPU-backed loans. USD.AI provides financing for neoclouds and AI infrastructure companies, competing directly with traditional banks and private credit funds. The protocol has successfully originated loans backed by NVIDIA GPUs including H100s and H200s. The episode explores how USD.AI differentiated itself by focusing specifically on GPU assets rather than generalized RWA lending. Hosted by Dylan BaneFollow Messari on Twitter: https://x.com/MessariCrypto Follow Fully Diluted on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?nd=1&dlsi=ba41bca8012548dfFollow Fully Diluted on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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Will Prediction Market Volumes Continue to Grow? Bull vs Bear Case | Messari Fully Diluted
The Messari team analyzes prediction markets after the Super Bowl drove record volumes across Kalshi and Polymarket. With $6.2 billion in weekly volume split between sports betting and political markets, the question is whether this represents a local top or sustainable growth. Will prediction markets scale to entertainment, culture, and long-tail markets, or is volume topping out? The discussion covers regulatory advantages, UX challenges, and whether Robin Hood and Coinbase building their own platforms will threaten Kalshi and Polymarket's market share. From permissionless markets to derivatives on prediction outcomes, this episode explores the full spectrum of opportunities and risks.0:35 - Introductions1:41 - Growth of Prediction Markets2:45 - New Market Opportunities5:36 - Long-Tail Markets21:10 - Crypto vs Traditional Platforms31:17 - Perps & Advanced Products33:26 - Attention Markets45:46 - ConclusionHosted by Matthew NayFollow Messari on Twitter: https://x.com/MessariCryptoFollow Fully Diluted on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpw...Follow Fully Diluted on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.#Polymarket #cryptopodcast #kalshi
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The Electric Dollar: How Stablecoins Will Finance AI's Future
Dylan Bane sits down with Anirudh from Robot Ventures to discuss a provocative thesis: stablecoin issuers could become the marginal buyers of US debt, helping finance the explosive growth of AI infrastructure.Anirudh explains how Tether and Circle have already become the 15th largest holders of US Treasuries, and why this matters for both crypto and American competitiveness. The conversation explores how on-chain capital markets could unlock trillions in AI CapEx that traditional finance can't provide.Beyond just AI financing, the discussion spans auto-formalization in mathematics, the future of DePIN (decentralized physical infrastructure), and why composable on-chain assets will reshape global capital markets. Anirudh shares insights on what's working in crypto venture today, from prediction markets like Polymarket to bandwidth networks like Dawn.They debate whether central banks will eventually hold stablecoins, how agents will transform capital allocation, and why the supply chain for AI spans 80,000 companies worldwide.Introductions - 0:00VC Market Today - 1:32Stablecoins & CapEx - 10:07On-Chain Finance Future - 24:47DePIN/Infra Outlook - 30:52Founder Advice - 39:39How to Join - 42:49Conclusion - 43:09Hosted by Dylan BaneFollow Messari on Twitter: https://x.com/MessariCryptoFollow Fully Diluted on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?nd=1&dlsi=ba41bca8012548dfFollow Fully Diluted on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.#cryptopodcast #stablecoins #AI
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DePIN Growth, Trade XYZ Explosion & BitTensor Updates | Messari Fully Diluted
The Shoot the Sh*t Podcast #19 dives deep into DePIN's real state in 2026. While token prices are down dramatically, revenue is surging and networks are becoming genuinely profitable. InfraFi emerges as the most exciting DePIN development, offering stablecoin holders 10-15% yields by financing off-chain infrastructure like GPU compute and energy projects. USDAI is leading this charge and could spark a major narrative shift when it launches its token.Trade XYZ's equity perps are seeing explosive growth on Hyperliquid, with silver futures doing billion in volume despite being listed only 30 days ago. The team analyzes whether this represents a genuine shift or temporary speculation. All that and lot's more.Introductions - 0:00 DePIN Report & Tokens - 1:37 Market & Macro - 15:51 Bitcoin & News - 25:54 AI Coins - 30:56 Bittensor / TAO - 34:04 On-Chain Activity - 43:24 Conclusion - 46:59 Hosted by Matthew NayFollow Messari on Twitter: https://x.com/MessariCryptoFollow Fully Diluted on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?nd=1&dlsi=ba41bca8012548dfFollow Fully Diluted on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.#cryptopodcast #cryptotrading #DePIN
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The Secret to Tron’s Rapid Adoption in Emerging Markets
Sam Elfarra, Community Spokesperson at TronDAO, reveals how Tron’s first-mover advantage on USDT has created a liquidity revolution in emerging markets, making crypto accessible to the unbanked and transforming cross-border payments. With annualized settlement volumes nearing $8 trillion and stablecoins accounting for over 42% of USDT circulation, Tron’s influence on world finance is unprecedented. This episode dives into how Tron balances decentralization with high-speed performance, how it’s fighting illicit activity, and why they aim to move trillions efficiently, safely, and inclusively. From global remittances to tokenized assets, Sam shares the game-changing upgrades coming in 2026, focusing on interoperability, external integrations, and faster finality that will redefine your financial experience.Read the full report here: https://messari.io/report/state-of-tron-q4-202500:00 – Introductions01:37 – Mass Adoption05:22 – Stablecoins11:44 – User Growth19:56 – Security22:40 – Governance24:20 – Network Upgrades25:54 – 2026 Vision26:30 - ConclusionHosted by Jeremy Koch of MessariSubscribe for more conversations at the intersection of crypto, DePIN, and real-world infra.Follow Messari on Twitter: https://x.com/MessariCryptoFollow Fully Diluted on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?nd=1&dlsi=d4af54b4c6974ae1Follow Fully Diluted on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.How this was made#crypto #tron #cryptonews
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How Dabba Scaled from 1K to 75K WiFi Hotspots in 18 Months | Messari Fully Diluted
Dabba is building the future of connectivity in India through decentralized physical infrastructure on the Solana blockchain. This episode of Fully Diluted features founder Karam Lakshman discussing how Dabba has become one of the fastest-growing DePIN networks globally, expanding from 1,000 to 75,000 WiFi hotspots in just 18 months with nearly 500,000 daily active users. The project taps into India's unique market structure, where 100,000 small cable operators need capital and technology to transition from cable TV to broadband internet as consumers cut the cord.Read the full report here: https://messari.io/report/dabba-an-onchain-market-for-connectivity00:00 – Introductions01:17 – What Dabba Is06:55 – DePIN Incentives10:28 – India Market13:33 – Rewards & Token16:03 – Expansion & Infra22:08 – Growth & Metrics27:22 – How to Join28:25 - ConclusionHosted by Dylan Bane of MessariSubscribe for more conversations at the intersection of crypto, DePIN, and real-world infra.Follow Messari on Twitter: https://x.com/MessariCrypto Follow Fully Diluted on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?nd=1&dlsi=ba41bca8012548dfFollow Fully Diluted on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.How this was made
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State of DePIN 2025 | Fully Diluted
In this episode of Fully Diluted, Messari’s Dylan Bane sits down with Sal Gala, co-founder and managing partner at Escape Velocity Ventures, and Connor Lovely, founder at Proof of Coverage Media, to explore the current state of DePIN in 2025. They delve into the evolution of DePIN, its revenue growth, and the challenges faced by the sector.They cover:• The impressive revenue growth of GeoNet and Helium• The challenges and setbacks in the decentralized compute sector• The role of buybacks and growth in the DePIN ecosystem• The impact of regulatory clarity on enterprise interest in DePIN• Predictions for the future of DePIN and its potential to attract more enterprises00:40 – Introductions 03:27 – DePIN Growth 09:20 – Revenue & Buybacks 11:55 – Where Money is Going16:00 – InfraFI Shift23:48 – Big Wins & Misses31:05 – What's Next (2026)39:18 – ConclussionHosted by Dylan Bane of MessariSubscribe for more conversations at the intersection of crypto, Deepin, and real-world infrastructure.Follow Messari on Twitter: / messaricrypto Follow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpw...Follow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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Drones x DePIN: Spexi and LayerDrone Are Building a Global Spatial Data Network | Fully Diluted
Drones, not satellites, might power the next generation of maps and spatial AI. In this episode of Fully Diluted, Messari’s Dylan Bane sits down with Alec Wilson, COO of Spexi and founding contributor to LayerDrone, to break down how their DePIN-powered drone network is creating a standardized, ultra–high-resolution imagery layer of the Earth.They cover:- Why drone imagery (1–3 cm per pixel) can beat both satellites and planes- How Spexi software and LayerDrone’s web3 incentives coordinate thousands of pilots into a single data network- Lessons from paying contributors in fiat first — and why they’re adding a token model now- Real-world demand from Amazon, Uber, Niantic, Esri, and governments for better geospatial data- The challenges of B2B sales, crypto optics, and being “too early” with frontier tech- What to expect from LayerDrone’s upcoming TGE, mainnet launch, and global expansion00:00 – Introductions07:48 – Why Token Model11:38 – DePIN Learnings16:26 – Growth & Demand26:57 – Future Plans30:46 – Expansion Regions31:20 – How People Can Join31:54 – ConclusionHosted by Dylan Bane of MessariSubscribe for more conversations at the intersection of crypto, deepin, and real-world infra.Follow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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Exploring Railgun: The Future of Crypto Privacy | with Messari Research
Join us for another episode of Fully Diluted with Messari Analysts Matthew Nay, Sam Ruskin, Qorban Ferrell, and Jake Koch-Gallup.This week, we explore Jake's insightful analysis of RAILGUN, a cutting-edge ZK privacy tool for EVM networks, and discuss its valuation and market impact. We also cover the resurgence of meme coins, the rise of equity perps, and the macro trends driving the metals market. Tune in for a deep dive into the world of privacy tech, market dynamics, and the future of decentralized finance. Don't miss out on this engaging conversation!00:00:00 -- Introduction and Episode Overview00:01:48 -- Privacy & Railgun00:05:51 -- Privacy Wallets00:18:26 -- Privacy Coins Market00:23:28 -- Equity Perps00:29:39 -- Market Fragmentation00:33:22 -- Robinhood & TradFi00:36:40 -- Meme Coins Outlook00:46:12 -- Onchain Activity00:48:09 -- ConclusionFollow Messari on Twitter: / messaricrypto Follow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpw...Follow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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Consumer Crypto 2026: Prediction Markets, Wallet Wars & the Next Speculative Cycle | Fully Diluted
Prediction markets may be the first real breakout product for consumer crypto—and they’re only getting started.In this episode of Messari’s 2026 Theses consumer series, we’re joined by Tulip King and Baba, two former Messari analysts, to unpack where consumer crypto actually goes next. The conversation spans prediction markets as base infrastructure, why memecoins and NFTs needed a reset, how wallets become the new distribution layer, and whether crypto social finally has a real unlock.We connect these themes directly to Messari’s newly published 2026 Crypto Theses, exploring what adoption looks like when users stop caring about rails and start caring about products—and why wallets, prediction markets, and AI copilots may define the next consumer cycle.1:47 Prediction Markets 14:49 Meme Coins & NFTs 22:35 Crypto Wallets 33:49 Social & Creator Crypto 46:40 Consumer Crypto 2026Hosted by Chris Davis of MessariSubscribe for more conversations at the intersection of crypto, DePIN, and real-world infra.Follow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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Theses 2026 on DeFi: Perps & Equity Perps, Prediction Markets, Stablecoin Yield w/ Messari Alumni
Perps are leveling up from a crypto-native niche into a global trading primitive—and equity perps may be the breakout narrative of 2026. In this year-in-review episode of Messari: Unqualified Opinions, Messari Research Analysts Sam and Qorban are joined by Messari alumni Sunny and Kunal to unpack 2025’s biggest DeFi themes: Hyperliquid’s rise, the equity perp inflection, the maturation (and looming skepticism) around prediction markets, how political markets could evolve, and why yield-bearing stablecoins may accelerate as rates compress.This conversation connects directly to Messari’s newly published 2026 Crypto Theses report—covering the structural tailwinds behind perps + equities, stablecoin adoption, onchain market structure, and the next wave of DeFi product-market fit.📘 Read the full (free) Crypto Theses 2026 report: https://messari.io/report/the-crypto-theses-2026Hosted by Sam Ruskin of MessariSubscribe for more conversations at the intersection of crypto, DePIN, and real-world infra.Follow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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Theses 2026: Crypto x AI – Why BitTensor Could Be the “Bitcoin of Open AI Competition” | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
In this episode, Dylan, Sami and Seth break down why crypto + AI isn’t just a moral counterweight to Big Tech—it’s a faster innovation engine. They explain how BitTensor’s subnet model turns AI development into an open, incentive-driven competition (similar to how Bitcoin relentlessly optimized SHA-256), and why 2025’s biggest shifts—open-source catching up, reinforcement learning’s rise, and massive data center capex—set the stage for decentralized AI to find real product-market fit. The conversation also digs into value accrual, why buybacks can be a trap, and which crypto-AI sectors could surprise people in 2026 (agents, privacy, robotics, and GPU financing).📘 Read the full (free) Crypto Theses 2026 report: https://messari.io/report/the-crypto-theses-20260:00 AI & DePIN Trends10:28 Training Subnets14:07 Investing Approach20:25 Revenue Growth22:35 Token Strategy40:26 Compute & Infra41:59 Future OutlookHosted by Chris Davis of MessariSubscribe for more conversations at the intersection of crypto, DePIN, and real-world infra.Follow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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Theses 2026: Ethereum, L2s, and the Battle for the Everything Exchange | Messari's Fully Diluted
Messari’s Theses 2026 multi-chain roundtable breaks down who’s really winning the L1 / L2 wars and what that means for the next cycle.The Enterprise team dives into:- How Ethereum clawed back from peak despair in 2025- Why Arbitrum and Base are pulling away from the L2 pack- What a Robinhood L2 could mean for every existing rollup- MegaETH’s token + native stablecoin experiments- Jeremy’s new Disruption Factor framework for ranking L2s- Solana’s push to become the “onchain NASDAQ”- Hot takes for 2026: Starknet, Monad, native stablecoins, and moreWatch alongside Messari Crypto Theses 2026 for the full data-driven breakdown of L1, L2, and multichain trends. 📘 Read the full report: https://messari.io/report/the-crypto-theses-20260:00 Ethereum Outlook5:41 Ethereum Scaling7:17 Ethereum Narrative16:45 Robinhood Chain25:09 Base & L2s35:33 L2 Research41:18 Solana Outlook51:12 L1 InnovationHosted by Patryk Krasnicki of MessariSubscribe for more conversations at the intersection of crypto, DePIN, and real-world infra.Follow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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State of Crypto 2026: Winners, Losers, and Big Bets for the Next Cycle | Messari's Fully Diluted
In this episode of the Messari Thesis Podcast, the Enterprise research team recaps the wild year that was 2025 and lays out their highest-conviction bets for 2026. We dig into why Bitcoin has clearly separated from the rest of the market, how Hyperliquid and a handful of standout apps stole the spotlight, and why long-tail L1s are running out of room. The team debates whether institutions really break the four-year cycle, how the stablecoin and yield meta evolves as rates fall, and where DeFi banks, RWAs, and prediction markets actually fit.We also get into L1 vs L2 dynamics, Solana’s on-chain market structure experiments, the rise of yield-generating stablecoins, and the explosion of on-chain derivatives from equity perps to exotic real-world assets. Finally, everyone shares one spicy prediction for 2026—from a G20 nation adding Bitcoin to its strategic reserves to a single meme coin rising from the ashes.00:00 2025 Winners & Losers07:00 L1, L2 & Multichain09:25 Institutions & Stablecoins13:55 Yield & DeFi Banks23:45 2026 Narratives28:55 Regulation & Tokens33:30 Equity Perps & TradFi40:10 2026 Market OutlookHosted by Matthew Nay of MessariSubscribe for more conversations at the intersection of crypto, DePIN, and real-world infra.Follow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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State of Crypto AI, Monad & L1s: Where We Really Are in the Cycle | Messari's Fully Diluted
How much of “crypto AI” is still just narrative—and how much is finally real?In this episode, Messari’s Enterprise team unpacks findings from Messari’s newly released State of AI Report and what they mean for decentralized AI, infra, and the broader market. Chris walks through why post-training, reinforcement learning, and test-time compute are pushing us into a new decentralized AI paradigm, from swarm-style inference networks like 42 Network to open source models that are finally seeing real, paid demand.Read the Full State of AI 2025 for FREE: https://messari.io/report/state-of-ai00:00 – Introductions01:11 – State of AI & Crypto08:28 – AI Agents & Micropayments23:05 – New L1 & TG Analysis36:10 – Market & Cycle Outlook50:04 – Token Launch Advice56:22 – On-Chain Activity57:52 – ConclusionHosted by Matthew Nay of MessariSubscribe for more conversations at the intersection of crypto, DePIN, and real-world infra.Follow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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Swarm Intelligence & Crypto AI: Inside Fortytwo’s Decentralized Inference Network | Fully Diluted
What if the smartest AI didn’t live in a hyperscale data center—but across millions of everyday devices?In this episode, Chris Davis sits down with Ivan Nikitin, co-founder of Fortytwo, an AI network built on crypto rails that turns idle consumer hardware into a global swarm of specialized models. After a decade in traditional AI—training agents, conversational systems, and even a spatial reasoning foundation model—Ivan hit the hard wall of AI scalability: not enough compute, endlessly bigger data centers, and no sustainable path forward.Fortytwo flips that script. Instead of one giant “god model,” it orchestrates small, specialized models into a swarm inference network. Each query is handled by a sub-swarm of experts that generate answers, peer-rank each other’s outputs, and aggregate the best result—creating a system that’s more robust to hallucinations, prompt injection, and noisy prompts (yes, including the “cat on the roof” test).Messari’s State of AI Report calls decentralized inference “one of the most important emerging architectures in AI,” and this conversation offers a firsthand look into how that future might unfold.Read the Full State of AI 2025 for FREE: https://messari.io/report/state-of-ai00:00 – Introductions03:05 – Crypto & Security10:16 – Models & Swarm Performance24:02 – Consumer Devices & Nodes38:02 – Custom Model Training43:16 – Demand & Pricing53:31 – Future, Token & Data Use59:00 – ConclusionHosted by Chris Davis of MessariSubscribe for more conversations at the intersection of crypto, DePIN, and real-world infra.Follow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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Crypto as Capital Formation: DePIN, AI & Zero-Employee Orgs With Multicoin | Messari's Fully Diluted
In this episode, Messari's Chris Davis sits down with Shayon Sengupta, Partner at Multicoin Capital, to unpack how crypto-native markets are reshaping everything from wireless networks and AI compute to data collection and talent markets. They trace the lineage from Bitcoin mining to Helium and today’s DePIN / “internet labor markets,” dig into why verification is the hardest (and most under-rated) problem, and explore how crypto can fund the massive resource aggregation AI requires.We also connect these themes to insights from Messari’s newly released State of AI 2025 report, discussing how AI, decentralized data markets, and crypto-native coordination are converging to reshape the economic landscape.Read the Full State of AI 2025 for FREE: https://messari.io/report/state-of-aiThe conversation then zooms out to the future:• Can agents run zero-employee companies?• How will we pay humans for the data and labor that trains AI?• Why proof of personhood and content authenticity may become existential primitives for the internet.Shayon closes with candid advice on breaking into VC and how to actually be useful to founders.0:00 – Introductions1:01 – Background (Shayan’s path from math & startups to Multicoin)4:30 – Investing Thesis (DePIN, internet labor markets, crypto as “money + markets”)13:02 – Data & Verification (capital formation, network taxonomy, and why verification is hard)22:40 – AI & Labor (compute markets, inference clouds, talent networks, zero-employee orgs)43:28 – Identity & UBI (proof of personhood, Worldcoin, deepfakes, online identity)49:20 – Future Ideas (data-poor domains, specialized data DAOs, brain–computer interfaces)53:56 – How to Get Into VC (advice on writing, differentiation, being useful to founders)57:30 – Conclusion (wrap-up + future BCI episode tease)Hosted by Chris Davis of MessariSubscribe for more conversations at the intersection of crypto, DePIN, and real-world infra.Follow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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Rewiring Crypto: How DoubleZero Builds a High-Speed Network for Solana & Beyond | Fully Diluted w/ Messari Research
The public internet wasn’t built for high-performance blockchains.In this episode of Fully Diluted, Messari’s Dylan Bane and Matthew Nay sit down with Austin Federa, co-founder of DoubleZero, to unpack how a global mesh of privately contributed fiber links is becoming the low-latency “private internet” for Solana and other high-throughput chains.Austin explains why 20–30 hops over the public internet introduce jitter, slow block propagation, and widen trading spreads—and how DoubleZero’s 70+ fiber links, multicast, and future FPGA acceleration aim to fix it. They also get into the 2Z token, DZ SOL liquid staking, validator incentives, and what it will take to push Solana toward 100k+ TPS and eventually 1M+.You’ll learn:🔹 Why major financial firms and web2 giants don’t rely on the public internet—and why blockchains shouldn’t either🔹 How DoubleZero’s contributors (Jump, DRW/Cumberland, and others) provide fiber that validators can “plug into” alongside the public internet🔹 How jitter, least-cost routing, and bandwidth caps quietly limit DeFi and on-chain trading today🔹 The design of the 2Z token and DZ SOL stake pool, and how they align network costs and validator economics🔹 What multicast, edge filtration, and hardware acceleration could unlock for next-gen L1s and cross-chain apps🔹 DoubleZero’s 2026 roadmap, new geographies and tenants, and how non-crypto systems might eventually tap the network00:00 – Introductions01:17 – Double Zero Basics02:00 – How It Works04:09 – Chain & Solana Use07:03 – Network Flow32:06 – Token & Rewards39:44 – Solana Future48:06 – ConclusionHosted by Dylan Bane and Matthew Nay of MessariSubscribe for more conversations at the intersection of crypto, deepin, and real-world infra.Follow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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Monad Mainnet Is Here: The Fastest EVM Chain Goes Live | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
Monad is gearing up for one of crypto’s most anticipated launches — a high-speed, censorship-resistant L1 built to merge scalability with true decentralization. In this episode of Fully Diluted, Dylan Bane and Matthew Nay sit down with Monad’s Kevin and Jack to discuss the tech behind Monad’s 10,000 TPS architecture, how decentralization fits into the next phase of crypto, and what users can expect from day one of mainnet.We cover the team’s origin story, the challenges of building from zero to a thriving ecosystem, and why Monad believes it’s the endgame architecture for the EVM.0:00 — Introductions1:13 — Monad Story & Team6:51 — Decentralization & Vision17:02 — Ecosystem & Features21:00 — Growth & Community30:03 — Launch & Goals38:28 — Market Outlook45:03 — ConclusionHosted by Dylan Bane and Matthew Nay of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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Can You Launch a New Telco in 2025? Dabba’s Plan to Connect India via Can You Launch a New Telco in 2025? Dabba’s Plan to Connect India via DePIN | Messari Podcast
Messari CTO Diran Lee sits down with Karam Lakshman, CEO & co-founder of Dabba, to unpack how a DePIN marketplace, local cable operators, and crypto incentives could build a new Telco in the world’s toughest market—India. We cover broadband vs. mobile realities, Dabba’s business model and token system, the choice of Solana & BONK, incentives, and the growth roadmap.0:00 Introductions 1:33 Tech Journey 7:04 Internet in India 13:29 Business Model 21:17 Token System 24:46 Solana & BONK Choice 26:34 Incentives & Vision 31:12 Future Growth 32:07 ConclusionAbout the episode:Dabba helps India’s long-tail of local operators deliver affordable broadband by standardizing ops and crowdsourcing last-mile buildout through a tokenized incentive model—aiming to onboard the next hundred million (and beyond).Hosted by Diran Lee of MessariSubscribe for more conversations at the intersection of crypto, deepin, and real-world infra.Follow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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ETH’s Q3 Surge: DATs Grab 3.8% of Supply, ETH ETFs Outpace BTC | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
Q3 was ETH’s quarter. Messari Research digs into why ETH ETFs saw more inflows than BTC, how ETH-focused DATs amassed ~3.8% of ETH supply in one quarter, and what MNAV convergence means for future buy pressure. We also cover stablecoin growth (and USDe’s breakout), the slow-but-real maturation of tokenized equities/commodities, the rise of “corporate chains” (Stripe/Tempo, Circle/Arc, JPMorgan/Kinexys, Google Cloud), and the debate around next-gen EVMs (Monad, MegaETH). We wrap with Internet Capital Markets (ICM) / launchpad wars and what we’re doing on-chain.00:47 — Introductions02:09 — ETF Market Updates 05:33 — Mining Competition 07:55 — Solana & Ethereum 9:24 — Bitcoin & Stablecoins 16:07 — On-chain Assets 26:26 — New Chains & Launchpads 48:52 — On-chain Activity 52:14 — ConclusionHosted by Matthew Nay of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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Helius on Privacy’s Next Wave: Zcash, Solana, & Future of Onchain Markets | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
In this episode of Fully Diluted, Messari’s Dylan Bane and the Messari Research team sit down with Mert Mumtaz, Co-founder and CEO of Helius, to unpack the evolving privacy landscape in crypto. They dive deep into Zcash’s resurgence, Solana’s growing DeFi ecosystem, and the regulatory and technical hurdles shaping the next generation of privacy-preserving systems.Mert discusses why privacy is fundamental to crypto’s future, how advancements in ZK proofs, FHE, and MPC are transforming usability, and why regulation may finally be catching up to innovation. The group also explores Solana’s momentum in trading infrastructure, perps, and DeFi market structure—and what it means for a truly decentralized financial internet.00:41 – Introductions03:54 – Why Privacy Matters05:15 – Privacy Apps 11:58 – Zcash & Privacy Tech 17:58 – Zcash Updates 29:03 – Solana & Privacy 41:01 – Future & Learning42:55 – Conclusion Hosted by Dylan Bane of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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Robots With Wallets: OpenMind’s Vision for Physical AI & On-Chain Coordination | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
On this episode of Fully Diluted, Messari’s Dylan Bane and Chris Davis sit down with Yan, founder/CEO of OpenMind (and Stanford engineering professor on sabbatical), to unpack the near-future of physical AI—LLMs embodied in robots that can navigate homes, talk, learn, and even pay for services.00:00 – Introductions01:58 – Robotics & AIState of robotics, near-term use cases (security checks, eldercare prompts, math tutoring), why start with quadrupeds vs. humanoids, form-factor tradeoffs and safety/insurance.19:05 – Data & SecurityReal-world deployment frictions (liability, public perception, unions) and deep dive on privacy: on-device face processing, edge AI, and confidential computing for cloud inference.26:32 – Crypto in RobotsWhy robots use crypto rails (identity, payments, tasking, proof-of-location), “robots with wallets,” agent payments, and machine-to-machine economies.35:08 – Manufacturing & PolicyWho can build millions of robots (auto OEMs, Asian supply chains), how the U.S. catches up, and the role of government vs. private sector.42:48 – Social ImpactJobs, aging populations, productivity tradeoffs, and how rapid AI progress stresses education and labor markets.51:46 – Business ModelOpen-source core + enterprise SaaS endpoints (healthcare, spatial RAG), rev-share with manufacturers, and data/micropayment services.56:38 – Future PlansHome pilots of autonomous quadrupeds, target markets/timeline for broader rollouts, building charging/payment networks.58:44 – ConclusionHosted by Dylan Bane of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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Stablecoin Neobanks, Perp Wars & Double Zero | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
In this Episode, Messari's Enterprise team digs into three hot threads: why stablecoins are the best onramp for mainstream users, whether on-chain neobanks can beat custodial fintech, and the latest in the Perp Wars (Hyperliquid vs. Aster/Lighter). We close with Double Zero’s launch, token design debates, and what it means for high-speed crypto networks.0:00 – Introductions1:24 – Plasma & XPL Launch3:45 – Self-Custody & Web3 UX20:27 – Aster & BNB Ecosystem28:02 – Perp Market Share Outlook30:48 – Double Zero & Tokenomics41:15 – On-Chain Activity (What We’re Doing)44:20 – ConclusionHosted by Matthew Nay of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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Injective: The Finance L1 — MEV-Resistant, Pre-IPO Perps, EVM | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
Injective CEO Eric Chen joins Messari’s Dylan Bane on Fully Diluted to unpack a finance-first Layer-1 built for performance and markets. Injective is a Cosmos SDK chain with instant finality (~25k TPS) and MEV-resistant orderbook/financial modules that power apps like Helix. We cover permissionless market creation (including pre-IPO perpetuals for OpenAI, SpaceX, Stripe via Theta pricing), the multi-VM roadmap with a new EVM environment and exchange precompiles, wallet abstraction and LayerZero bridging, and how RWAs show up on Injective (Pineapple Financial’s on-chain mortgages and a proposed staked INJ ETF). The theme: breadth of offerings, distribution to non-crypto users, and an “everything finance” app strategy.0:48 Introductions1:22 About Injective3:40 Trading & Perp DEX9:38 Prediction Markets13:23 On-Chain Adoption16:59 Institutional Interest22:22 Developers & EVM29:47 Crypto Future34:09 Games & Resources34:38 Conclusion Hosted by Dylan Bane of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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Botanix: The Bitcoin L2 Paying Native BTC Yield | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
Botanix co-founders Willem Schroé and Alisia Painter join Messari's Dylan Bane on Fully Diluted to unpack a Bitcoin Layer-2 built for real finance. Botanix is a proof-of-stake Bitcoin L2 where 50% of gas fees flow to stakers via STBTC—a liquid, up-only, native Bitcoin yield backed by on-chain economic activity (not points or new tokens). We cover how users bridge BTC → Botanix → stake → earn, instant peg-outs, and why the team’s Spiderchain design prioritizes decentralization and censorship resistance (federation today, dynafed next, more than 1,000 nodes over time).We also dive into catalysts for BitcoinFi adoption (monetary incentives + trusted apps), BTC-backed stablecoins like Palladium (PUSD), perps and tokenized assets, and the 6–12 month roadmap as STBTC becomes base collateral across the Botanix ecosystem.0:00 – IntroductionsMeet the hosts and Botanics’ founders, William and Alicia, and hear how the project began.3:30 – Bitcoin L2 TodayState of Bitcoin Layer 2s, scaling challenges, and why Botanics is building for the long term.6:15 – Bridging & Spider ChainHow to bridge Bitcoin to Botanics, plus a deep dive into the Spiderchain security model.10:45 – Yield & IncentivesUnderstanding STBTC, gas-fee-backed Bitcoin yield, and why it’s a catalyst for adoption.20:25 – Adoption DriversKey ingredients for Bitcoin DeFi growth: incentives, builders, and decentralization.23:50 – StablecoinsExploring Palladium (PUSD) and the opportunity for Bitcoin-backed stablecoins in emerging markets.30:15 – DEXs & AssetsPerpetual DEXs, tokenized assets, and why Bitcoin collateral changes the game.36:55 – Roadmap AheadWhat’s next for Botanics: STBTC rollout, new apps, and expanding the federation.40:55 – Learning MoreWhere to find docs, tutorials, and how to start earning yield with Bitcoin.42:30 – ConclusionFinal thoughts on Bitcoin yield, self-custody, and building a sustainable Bitcoin DeFi future.Hosted by Dylan Bane of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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Exotic RWAs & the New Crypto Frontier | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
This week, the Messari Enterprise team digs into the next big unlocks and headwinds across crypto:🔹 Exotic RWAs (Pokémon cards, watches, wine): why tokenizing non-financial collectibles finally improves UX (instant settlement, lower trust frictions) and could onboard normies.🔹 Macro setup: weak jobs, CPI/PPI ahead, gold ripping, and why a surprise 50 bps cut isn’t crazy — plus what that means for BTC, SOL, and funding conditions.🔹 Solana DATs & flows: Galaxy/Jump/Multicoin’s $1.65B vehicle, what’s actually bullish (cash vs. locked), and realistic expectations for SOL vs. ETH.🔹 Pump.fun buybacks: short-term alignment vs. long-term cash needs to compete with Web2 social — when buybacks help and when they starve growth.🔹 Stripe’s Tempo L1: distribution monster or Libra 2.0? Permissionless claims, payment fast lanes, and the impact on ETH/Solana liquidity and “corpo chain” UX.🔹 Hyperliquid’s native stablecoin (USDH): Paxos, Agora, FRA, and Native Markets bids; revenue-share math; what it signals for Circle/USDC and for L1/L2 treasury design.🔹 MegaETH & new networks: timelines, yield vs. distribution in stablecoin wars, and why “attention + loyalty” may be the next moat.00:00 Exotic RWAs primer2:00 Macro & Fed odds (25 vs 50 bps)6:00 Solana DATs, flows & SOL/ETH12:40 Pump.fun buybacks debate23:00 Stripe Tempo L1 & “corpo chains”40:20 Hyperliquid USDH proposals56:00 Exotic RWA momentum & UX1:07:20 What we’re doing on-chainHosted by Matthew Nay of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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Still Early: Crypto Venture After Hype With Framework | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
VC Brandon Potts (Framework Ventures) joins Fully Diluted to cut through the noise on crypto venture right now. We cover why “let the token rip” is a dead-end playbook, where real demand and distribution come from, and why the next wave looks like application-specific infrastructure, stablecoins at scale, and energy/DePIN feeding AI—not generic infra or meme “vibe-coded” apps.What we cover🔹 Why most CT hot takes are wrong & why we’re still early🔹 The new bar for founders: demand, distribution, revenue (not pre-launch tokens)🔹 Application-specific infra (e.g., Hyperliquid, Plasma) vs. generic chains🔹 Stablecoins after policy clarity (“Genius”): cost of capital, distribution, yield🔹 Energy x DePIN: on-chain finance for power, credits, and data centers🔹 Crypto ↔ AI reality: how miners morphed into the AI backbone; investable angles🔹 GPU marketplaces: where the thesis works—and where it breaks🔹 The coming B2B crypto/SaaS moment and why execution beats narratives00:32 Introductions02:17 Crypto Venture Market15:09 Stablecoins & Tokenization30:25 AI & Energy Investments39:29 GPU Compute & Infra Protocols43:06 Mapping & Decentralized Data47:41 Potts’ contrarian take: we’re still early50:50 ConclusionHosted by Dylan Bane and Matthew Nay of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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Helium Revenue Burn, Fed Pivot, and Prediction Markets | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
In this week's episode, the Messari Enterprise team covers a loaded agenda:🔹 Helium Mobile’s move to burn 100% of revenue in HNT🔹 Fed pivot sparks a rally in ETH and TradFi equities🔹 Capital rotation across majors, altcoins, and onchain flows🔹 Hyperliquid smashes volume records and cements its spot as a top onchain venue🔹 Prediction markets (Flipper, Polymarket, KHI) gaining new traction🔹 Bio Protocol’s flywheel and the future of DeSci funding00:53 Introductions1:53 Market Outlook3:34 On-Chain Flows14:44 Hyper EVM17:34 Prediction Markets20:54 Product Growth40:03 Coinbase43:18 Helium (HNT)50:57 On-Chain Work54:08 ConclusionHosted by Matthew Nay of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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Chainlink’s Future: Tokenization & Institutional Adoption | Unqualified Opinions by Messari Research
In this episode of Unqualified Opinions, Messari’s Whynonah sits down with Johann Eid , Chief Business Officer at Chainlink, to explore the evolution of Chainlink from solving the oracle problem to becoming a cornerstone of institutional blockchain adoption.Johann shares personal insights on the importance of focus in building within crypto, lessons from Aave’s journey to product-market fit, and why tokenization and interoperability are the key drivers of the next wave of adoption.Key topics covered:🔹 Why focus beats distraction in an ultra-competitive market🔹 The formative moment that proved blockchain’s value🔹 Lessons in product-market fit from DeFi pioneers🔹 Chainlink’s role in connecting TradFi and crypto through tokenization🔹 Why institutional adoption today is different from past cycles🔹 How blockchain technology enables global financial freedom00:33 Introductions1:13 Personal Background5:24 Product Market Fit8:39 Chainlink's Evolution14:10 Institutional Adoption20:30 Future of Crypto & Chainlink25:44 Community & Resources
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Ethereum’s Surge, Institutional Buying & DeFi Impact | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
Ethereum is up over 45% this month, outpacing every major asset — but what’s fueling this explosive move? In this episode, Matthew Nay and the Messari Enterprise team break down the drivers behind ETH’s outperformance, the institutional treasury race between Bitmine and ESB, and how these moves could reshape DeFi markets.We also dive into macro market conditions, CPI expectations, the surprising reception to GPT-5, ETH DeFi fundamentals, the Solana vs ETH narrative battle, and the breakout performance of projects like Zora and Succinct. Plus, we cover on-chain trends, perps, restaking, and why SocialFi may be the next hot narrative.Whether you’re an investor, builder, or DeFi degen, this is your front-row seat to the trends moving crypto markets right now.00:42 Introductions1:08 Macro Outlook8:28 ETH Treasuries15:56 DeFi Shift19:56 ETH vs. Solana25:24 Zora Rally34:24 Ecosystem Trends48:02 On-Chain Activity54:33 ConclusionHosted by Matthew Nay of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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$3.7T Stablecoins? Treasury’s Bet & Pump.Fun’s Fall | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
💡 Ask Messari Copilot: How will stablecoins reshape global finance if Treasury demand and TradFi adoption continue accelerating?👉 See Copilot's Response: https://messari.io/copilot/share/stablecoin-future-79313968-8b6e-4ae5-b1cf-2fa779c6f098In Episode 10 of Shoot the Pod, the Messari Enterprise team breaks down a jam-packed week across crypto markets, TradFi trends, and frontier tech. We dive into Scott Bessant's bold prediction of a $3.7 trillion stablecoin market, the U.S. Treasury's surprisingly bullish stance, and how stablecoins might be used to backstop U.S. deficits.We also explore the explosion of Ethereum treasury activity, institutional appetite for onchain assets, and the fallout from Pump.Fun’s underwhelming launch. Plus: Zora’s surprise breakout, NFTs staging a comeback, and the emergence of DePIN-powered devices like the Dawn Blackbox.00:44 Introductions5:27 Macro Trends & Predictions7:30 Fund Strategies & Risk26:07 Market Sentiment46:06 Crypto Adoption & NFTs50:46 Stablecoin Forecast & DeFi1:02:18 On-Chain Activity1:10:19 Hyperliquid & Tools Access1:11:38 ConclusionHosted by Matthew Nay of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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Stablecoins Are Changing Global Payments – Artemis' Anthony Yim| Fully Diluted with Messari Research
Want a comprehensive look at the stablecoin sector from top Messari analysts and industry-leading contributing partners? 📥 Download the FREE State of Stablecoins 2025 report live now: https://messari.io/report/state-of-stablecoins💡 Ask Messari Copilot: What do you think is the biggest untold story behind stablecoin adoption — enterprise growth, geopolitical implications, or DeFi-native FX innovation?👉 See Copilot's Response: https://messari.io/copilot/share/stablecoin-adoption-untold-stories-548e40d4-bf68-43c6-b361-0c7a0a7d572fAre stablecoins the future of global payments? In this episode of Unqualified Opinions, Messari’s Andrew Young speaks with Anthony Yim of Artemis to discuss the findings of their new State of Stablecoins report.From B2B cross-border transactions to stablecoin-linked card payments and the dominance of Tron and Tether, this episode dives into the data behind the exponential growth of stablecoin infrastructure. Anthony shares insights on enterprise adoption, regional frictions, the realities of replacing legacy payment rails, and why major networks like Visa and Mastercard may not be going anywhere.We also explore:- How stablecoins are already rivaling legacy rails like PayPal and Visa- Why emerging markets are at the forefront of stablecoin usage- The geopolitical risks of dollar dominance in a tokenized economy- What new opportunities could arise from open, programmable money rails00:30 Introductions1:17 Survey & B2B Payment Trends7:17 Speed & Card Usage17:17 Stablecoin Behavior & Liquidity22:09 Regulation & Government Response31:54 Adoption Challenges35:51 Stablecoins as Strategy39:21 ConclusionHosted by Andrew Dyer of MessariFull list of contributing partners includes: Coinbase Developer Foundation, Tether, Tron, Addressable, Circle, Global Dollar Network, Stellar, Sky, Hyperbeat, Perena, fx Protocol, Bitso, Huma, Ondo Finance, Plasma, Firefly, Dragonfly, Anchorage Digital, and Sphere.Follow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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The Future of Global Payments with Sphere Labs' Arnold Lee | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
Want a comprehensive look at the stablecoin sector from top Messari analysts and industry-leading contributing partners? 📥 Download the FREE State of Stablecoins 2025 report live now: https://messari.io/report/state-of-stablecoins💡 Ask Messari Copilot: How should emerging markets balance the benefits of dollar-denominated stablecoin access with the risks to their sovereign monetary policy?👉 See Copilot's Response: https://messari.io/copilot/share/stablecoins-in-emerging-markets-a-balancing-act-63575aa2-c161-4091-b2b4-166c5cd640a3In this special Unqualified Opinions episode, Messari’s Andrew dives deep into the cross-border stablecoin economy with Arnold Lee, co-founder of Sphere Labs.They unpack:- What it means to operate without clear money transmitter laws in emerging markets- How “stablecoin sandwiches” are revolutionizing cross-border payments- Why FX inefficiencies still dominate traditional finance rails- The core thesis behind Sphere Pay and the Sphereet private Solana cluster- Why small, agile companies may have an edge over global fintech giants like Wise and Revolut- The looming tension between dollar stablecoin adoption and sovereign monetary policyWhether you're a builder in fintech, a stablecoin researcher, or just crypto-curious, this episode offers a comprehensive look at the real-world implications, frictions, and transformative potential of programmable money.00:45 Introductions1:11 What Sphere Is3:22 User Benefits15:39 How Liquidity Works25:33 Role in Routing34:52 Use Cases44:39 Competitor Talk47:27 Future and Risk1:05:40 What's Next?1:08:08 ConclusionHosted by Andrew Dyer of MessariFull list of contributing partners includes: Coinbase Developer Foundation, Tether, Tron, Addressable, Circle, Global Dollar Network, Stellar, Sky, Hyperbeat, Perena, fx Protocol, Bitso, Huma, Ondo Finance, Plasma, Firefly, Dragonfly, Anchorage Digital, and Sphere.Follow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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Pump Token Launch, Bonk Takeover & Phantom’s Big UX Play | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
💡 Ask Messari Copilot: How is Phantom’s integration with Hyperliquid reshaping the future of on-chain perps and trading UX?👉 See Copilot's Response: https://messari.io/copilot/share/phantom-and-hyperliquid-integration-fe7767d4-8f7c-4efc-96d7-76682a2b2c75This episode of STSP covers the major catalysts driving crypto forward in July 2025. The team dives into the massive PUMP ICO, Hyperliquid’s breakout moment with Phantom, and what this means for the future of builder codes, trading infra, and Solana’s role in the evolving on-chain stack.Get insights into token launches, altcoin season indicators, macro momentum, and how Hyperliquid’s tech stack is rivaling CEXs in real time. Plus, a bullish Helium update and the team's on-chain plays.00:38 Introductions1:31 Macro & Bitcoin10:10 Crypto Week Impact11:50 PUMP & Meme Wars32:19 Urgency & Price Moves34:19 Hyperliquid vs. Others46:42 Chain Launch Talk47:27 Helium Update52:34 On-Chain Activity56:11 ConclusionHosted by Matthew Nay of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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Humanity Protocol: Solving Identity in a Deepfake World | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
In this Fully Diluted episode from ETHCC, we sit down with Terrence Kwok, founder of Humanity Protocol, to explore how palm biometrics, zero-knowledge proofs, and decentralized identity validators are coming together to build a new foundation for trust in the digital age. We cover:- The challenge of verifying human identity in an AI-heavy world- Why palm biometrics are more accurate (and less creepy) than other options- How Humanity Protocol enables privacy-preserving credentials for everything from proof of education to credit scores- The role of ZK-TLS and their recent acquisition of Moongate to scale real-world adoptio- What makes Humanity different from Worldcoin—and why they built their own chainTerrence also shares how they’ve grown to nearly 10M Human IDs globally, and why most future users may never realize they’re interacting with a blockchain at all.00:07 Introductions4:00 Tech Breakdown13:15 Credential Composability17:12 Why Build Your Own Chain?18:18 Global Go-To-Market20:31 Distribution Strategy23:09 User Incentives24:57 Roadmap28:26 AI Deepfakes30:04 ConclusionHosted by Dylan Bane of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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Crypto Onchain? Tokenized Stocks, Stablecoins, & Neo-Banking | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
💡 Ask Messari Copilot: How are tokenized stocks on Arbitrum expected to impact on-chain liquidity and adoption among retail investors?👉 See Copilot's Response: https://messari.io/copilot/share/tokenized-stock-liquidity-on-arbitrum-f15fd4cb-239d-4d36-bff6-808488df441bThis episode of STSP dives deep into the evolving intersection of traditional finance and crypto. The team discusses the rising excitement around stablecoins, Robinhood's move into tokenized U.S. equities on Arbitrum, Hyperliquid’s edge over centralized exchanges, and the broader implications of ETFs and on-chain trading infrastructure. Tune in for insights on how new financial rails are forming—from Solana staking ETFs to the emergence of crypto-powered super apps.00:29 Introductions1:00 Market Overview9:49 IPO & Markets11:35 Stocks via Stablecoins12:48 Robinhood & Coinbase Impact29:16 L2 & Altcoins40:41 Staking ETFs & Solana Growth50:28 Circle IPO & Stablecoin Yields51:50 Launchpads & Onchain News1:01:24 ConclusionHosted by Matthew Nay of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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Is Bitcoin Gold 2.0? + CLOB Wars, Stablecoin Frenzy, and More | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
💡 Ask Messari Copilot: What are the tradeoffs between valuing a Layer 1 blockchain using revenue vs. monetary premium?✨ See Copilot's Response: https://messari.io/copilot/share/layer-1-valuation-tradeoffs-a9a432a8-41bc-4281-963b-f836318a6502Bitcoin barely flinched during recent geopolitical chaos. Is BTC becoming more resilient—dare we say… gold-like? In this episode of STSP, we explore Bitcoin’s price action in the face of macro stress, the rise of on-chain order books (CLOBs), and the growing stablecoin wars between TradFi giants and crypto natives. We also dive into valuation models, memecoin exposure for institutions, and whether your favorite L1s deserve trillion-dollar dreams.Featuring spicy takes, galaxy brain theories, and just the right amount of terminally online behavior.00:37 Introductions1:01 CLOB Basics11:40 Stablecoin Talk17:40 Market Outlook30:49 L1 Valuation45:16 Pump.fun Valuation50:32 Onchain Activity55:41 ConclusionHosted by Dylan Bane of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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Inside 1inch's 30-Day Solana Expansion: Their DeFi Masterplan | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
In this exclusive interview, 1inch Co-Founder Sergej Kunz breaks down how the team expanded to Solana in just 30 days — and why intent-based architecture is the future of DeFi. From overcoming technical challenges, embracing open-source standards, and integrating MEV protection by design, Sergey shares deep insights on liquidity fragmentation, protocol design, and 1inch’s vision to unite DeFi across chains like Solana, Aptos, Sui, and even Bitcoin.👉 Why Solana's architecture created a huge growth opportunity👉 How 1inch delivered a production-ready Solana MVP in 30 days👉 Intent-based swaps vs. AMMs vs. CowSwap vs. Uniswap X👉 Cross-chain liquidity aggregation & MEV protection👉 The long-term roadmap for DeFi, Bitcoin integration, and TradFi adoptionWhether you're a builder, trader, or protocol researcher — this is a masterclass on DeFi scaling and infrastructure.00:41 Introductions6:38 Expand to Solana10:32 Fusion Protocol20:10 Communication27:10 Volume39:08 Accomplishment44:19 Liquidity Layer46:55 Interface Fees?56:58 The Future1:03:27 ConclusionHosted by Troy Harris of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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The First Real Internet Capital Market? | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
💡 Ask Messari Copilot: Could tokenized equities will actually drive onchain adoption — or are onchain traders still too focused on memes and perps?✨ See Copilot's Response: https://messari.io/copilot/share/tokenized-equities-and-onchain-adoption-fc4adda4-549d-4657-a411-6272aea037edIn episode 6 of Shoot Sh*t the Pod, the Messari Enterprise team dives into:- Bitcoin Vegas highlights & growing political support for crypto- The evolution of Bitcoin scalability: OPCAT, BitVM, and BitcoinFi experiments- Hyperliquid’s transparency debate and the future of onchain perps- Real-world assets and tokenized equities coming to Solana- Dripster’s unique model merging AI, real-world manufacturing, and internet capital markets- Helium Mobile’s explosive growth and the Deepin sector heating upStay tuned for in-depth takes, healthy debates, and some hot alpha along the way. Don’t forget to like and subscribe!00:38 Introductions1:13 Market Update6:10 Hyperliquid Hype17:27 RWAs & Equities25:24 Bitcoin Vegas & Scaling34:48 Dripster & New Markets45:40 NFT Derivatives48:52 Helium Growth51:03 ConclusionHosted by Matthew Nay of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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Building the Binance of Onchain: Inside Infinex’s Bold UX Bet | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
Ask Messari Copilot: Can a full-stack, centralized-style experience coexist with crypto’s ethos of decentralization?See Copilot's Response: https://messari.io/copilot/share/centralization-vs-decentralization-5b85d971-6184-4512-9110-1598a3900bb8Kain Warwick breaks down how Infinex is rewriting the rules of crypto UX. From building its own wallet and signing infrastructure to full-stack app architecture, Infinex is ditching the dApp playbook to offer users a seamless, centralized-like experience—without sacrificing custody. If you're curious about the future of crypto applications and the battle to onboard the next wave of users, this one’s for you.00:42 Introductions1:05 Infinex Vision4:13 UX in Crypto5:45 User Growth8:12 How Infinex Works19:05 Scaling Infinex23:15 Competition31:42 Updates & Perception38:46 Kaito Plans42:15 ConclusionHosted by Kinji Steimetz and Dylan Bane of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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Tokenizing Everything: Are Internet Capital Markets Crypto’s Next Frontier? | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
What does it really take to launch a token in 2025? The Enterprise team dives into the rise of Launchcoin and the emergence of Internet Capital Markets—an onchain movement redefining how tokens are created, distributed, and valued. From memecoin mechanics to institutional implications, this episode dissects the thesis and traction behind tokenized everything on Solana.💥 We also debate how to value L1s:→ Is REV (Revenue) the most grounded valuation metric?→ How do monetary premiums, economic security, and execution narratives shape prices?→ Are current valuations justifiable—or wildly overblown?Plus, we touch on:- The Coinbase S&P 500 inclusion- BTC breaking 6 figures- Hyperliquid’s growth dilemma- Dylan’s DePIN Valuations report (featuring DRNs vs. PRNs)- What we’re doing onchain—from Tama.fun to HyperEVM farming💡 Ask Messari Copilot: How might tokenization tools like Launchcoin evolve to enable real equity, revenue sharing, or governance rights—and what regulatory or technical hurdles stand in the way?✨ See Copilot's Response: https://messari.io/copilot/share/tokenization-s-future-equity-revenue-and-governance-d63e860a-1b2e-49da-8f64-f6ea5ecd3fe600:39 Introductions1:13 Market Update7:12 Coinbase in S&P11:55 Analyst Forecast13:27 How to Value L1s36:09 IPO Multiples38:24 Internet Capital Markets46:19 Hyperliquid & Bear Case59:52 On-Chain Stuff1:11:44 ConclusionHosted by Matthew Nay of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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Are We Really Back? AI Subnets, BTC Surge & Stablecoin Wars | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
We're back with Episode 4 of Shoot the Sh*t Fully Diluted Podcast, where the Messari Enterprise team dives deep into what’s fueling crypto’s recent momentum.Join Matthew Nay and the Enterprise team (Sunny Shi, Kinji Steimetz, Andrew Dyer, Chris Davis & Dylan Bane) as they shoot the sh*t about:🔹 Macro trends: BTC’s outperformance, S&P's rally, and tariff drama between the US and China.🔹 AI subnets & decentralized training: BitTensor’s shoots, gradients, and more.🔹 Ethereum’s L1 scaling push: Is this the turnaround moment for ETH?🔹 Stablecoin meta: Mastercard x Circle, Ripple’s rumored bid for Circle, and more.🔹 Hyperliquid flywheel: HIP3, staking incentives, and why it might be the next top-10 protocol.🔹 Onchain activity check-in: Launchpad wars, NFT grinds, and Treeverse MMOs.This one’s jam-packed. Whether you’re macro-curious, AI-obsessed, or just tracking new alt metas—there’s alpha for everyone.💡 Ask Messari Copilot: What would it take for Ethereum L1 to recapture DeFi mindshare from L2s and alt L1s—performance, incentives, or something entirely different? ✨ See Copilot's Response: https://messari.io/copilot/share/ethereum-l1-defi-comeback-bebd6c1a-a97f-49d2-98c4-136ca02b558c 00:44 Introductions1:10 Market Sentiment15:48 Ethereum Foundation25:11 AI Adoption36:57 DePIN Projects39:45 Energy & Crypto41:31 Crypto Payments56:15 EVM Innovations1:05:10 On-Chain Projects1:12:08 ConclusionHosted by Matthew Nay of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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Building Real-World Utility: DePIN, AI, and Crypto’s Future | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
What’s really holding crypto back? It’s not infrastructure—it’s product.In this episode of Fully Diluted, Hivemapper CEO Ariel Seidman joins Messari’s Dylan Bane to unpack the deep infrastructure powering Hivemapper’s decentralized global map—and why real utility, not hype, is the key to crypto’s next chapter.0:50 Introductions4:02 HiveMapper Intro12:13 Market Demand18:55 Token Model29:20 Regulation & Adoptio36:05 Crypto Culture38:56 App Layer & Roadmap46:04 ConclusionHosted by Dylan Bane of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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Crypto Built the Casino — Can It Build Infrastructure Too? | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
In this episode of Fully Diluted, Pranav Kanade and Wyatt Lonergan from VanEck Digital Assets are joined by Kinji Steimetz and Dylan Bane from Messari to explore the evolution of crypto beyond speculation. They dive deep into tokenization, stablecoins, the rise of real-world assets (RWA), and how stablecoin-powered infrastructure could reshape global payments and financial access. The conversation spans market structure reforms, the future of tokenized equities, the critical path for Deepin networks, and the competitive dynamics among base layers like Solana and MegaETH. Learn why the industry's future success depends not on better casinos—but on rewarding real, productive innovation.0:46 Introductions5:41 Stablecoin Use15:53 Tokenized Assets23:33 On-Chain Limits28:15 DePIN Infrastructure44:53 Base Layers51:24 ConclusionHosted by Kinji Steimetz and Dylan Bane of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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MegaETH Breaks Through, Mantra Breaks Down | STS Ep. 3 | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
We're back with Episode 3 of Shoot the Sh*t Pod — and this one’s stacked.Join Matthew Nay and the Enterprise team (Sunny Shi, Kinji Steimetz, Andrew Dyer, Chris Davis & Dylan Bane) as they dive into:🔹 Real-time blockchains: MegaETH is setting a new bar. 🔹 AI Roasting & CT Drama: AIXBT is back on its BS, targeting Sunny in a wild Twitter roast.🔹 Macro madness: Talking stagflation risks, Fed policy, and market sentiment.🔹 Token volatility: What happened with Mantra? 🔹 Content coins vs. memecoins: The Base/Zora launch sparked a frenzy. 🔹 Gaming onchain: MegaETH’s Crossy Road-style demo shows what fast infra can unlock.🔹 Decentralization vs. performance: Where are devs and users really drawing the line in 2025?00:00 Introductions1:05 AI Roasting 4:23 Macro Environment20:20 Token Volatility30:46 Tokenization & Utility48:54 Decentralization51:51 ConclusionHosted by Matthew Nay of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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How The Innovation Game Is Crowdsourcing Better Algorithms | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
Ask Messari Copilot: How can decentralized protocols change the economics of R&D in science and AI?See Copilot's Response: https://messari.io/copilot/share/decentralizing-r-d-economics-069debfe-3e9a-4281-8c5c-442e829d94b5How do we incentivize the next great algorithm? Why does open-source AI matter more than ever in a world of geopolitical tension and centralized power? In this episode, we dive deep with John Fletcher—physicist, mathematician, and creator of The Innovation Game—to explore a decentralized protocol for algorithm development, the future of AI scaling, and how crypto can align incentives for global innovation. From AI arms races to source separation in music production, this conversation spans the spectrum of science, strategy, and society.Read Their Recent Blog To Learn More: https://medium.com/@tigfoundation/the-innovation-game-how-a-market-for-open-algorithms-sets-science-free-b2eb6abcaa1e00:50 Introductions2:20 Protocol Basics8:23 Algorithmic Use Cases12:46 Historical Context18:27 Open Source Challenges24:47 Predictability29:25 Scaling and Global Talent36:08 Licensing42:36 Geopolitics50:42 Inspiration53:37 ConclusionHosted by Chris Davis of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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Cooked or Still Cooking? | Fully Diluted with Messari Research | Unqualified Opinions
Ask Messari Copilot: What are the most promising models for scaling DePIN infrastructure?See Copilot's Response: https://messari.io/copilot/share/scaling-deepin-infrastructure-models-ffbd3d95-53c1-4cdc-98cd-58d36f43250aIn this week’s episode, the Messari Research team breaks down the latest market narratives—from DePIN’s growing pains to macro risks and app consolidation on Solana. We’re talking tariff chaos, Circle’s IPO delay, gaming tokenomics, and what we’re actually doing onchain during all the volatility.The Analysts Discuss:📡 DePIN Revenue: Can protocols like Helium, GEODNET, and Glowe scale?📉 Macro: Tariffs, market uncertainty, and crypto relative strength🏦 Circle IPO: Why it got delayed and what that means for stablecoins🧬 Solana: Super apps, vertical integration, and the memecoin washout🎮 Gaming: Token design, GUN launch fallout, and consolidation🔬 Infra: MegaETH testnet and why infra still matters🧪 Onchain Life: What the team’s farming, testing, and feeding (yes, Mega E-fluffs)00:00 Introductions1:06 Tariff Fallout12:16 Circle IPO Delay19:30 Superapp Thesis28:07 State of Gaming32:03 Cycle Analysis38:22 DePIN Tokenomics44:30 Current Interests53:28 ConclusionHosted by Matthew Nay of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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