Misfit Social

Get out and see the world!Cliff Nance promised his children two things: an education and a nice set of suitcases — because the best education might just happen outside the classroom.In this Season 5 finale episode of Misfit Social, Roy, Paul, and Cliff unpack what happens when you leave your bubble and truly experience life through another culture's lens. From Cliff's three weeks off-grid in the African bush (with a whole fish staring back at him at breakfast), to Paul's culture-shocking teen travels through Asia with his dad, to Roy's jarring encounter with post-Apartheid Johannesburg — these aren't travel brags. They're life-altering moments that permanently shifted how each of them sees humanity.The guys dive deep into the difference between knowing about something and actually living it — why your social media opinion on Ukraine hits different when you have real friends getting bombed there, why commenting on Charlie Kirk's tragedy before you've done your homework might say more about you than him, and why humility in conversation desperately needs a revival.They also explore practical ways to help the next generation pack their own suitcase — from gap year programs and mission trips to simply getting to know the neighbor who doesn't look like you — and lay out the three Laws of Incarnation: enter another's world, hold on to yourself, and learn to hang in the tension between both.Whether you've traveled the world or never left your zip code, this one will make you want to go somewhere new — or at least see your own backyard differently.

Cliff Nance, Paul Cook, and Royce Wilson get into one of the heavier topics on the Misfit Social Podcast — political violence. From Flanders Field to Franz Ferdinand, the shot heard 'round the world to 9/11, the guys take a walk through history to show that political violence isn't new — it's practically been a constant. The real question is: what do we do about it now? The conversation covers everything from MLK's nonviolent resistance and Gandhi's soul force, to the forever wars, Hitler's rise out of post-WWI Germany, and what's happening in our own backyard today. They also dig into how social media algorithms, foreign propaganda, and a 24-hour news cycle are fueling the fire — and what each of us can actually do to restore dignified discourse, one conversation at a time.

This week, the Misfits welcome a very special guest — Julie Cook, wife of co-host Paul Cook — and yes, Paul gets an earful! Julie shares her deeply personal journey through infertility and adoption, offering an honest look at the emotional highs and lows that come with building a family in unexpected ways. The guys also shine a spotlight on the unsung heroes in early childhood education and the teachers who shape lives long before kids ever set foot in a classroom.From conflict resolution to the very real childcare crisis facing American families, this episode is equal parts heartfelt and thought-provoking. Julie's story is one of tenacity, empathy, and lionheart courage — a reminder that the road less traveled often leads to the most cherished destinations. Don't miss this one.

What does General Patton have to do with building a great company culture? More than you'd think. In this extended episode of the Misfit Social Podcast, Cliff Nance, Paul Cook, and Royce Wilson go deep on psychological safety — the shared belief that a team is safe enough to take risks, speak honestly, and challenge without fear of retaliation. Royce unpacks the framework he's been coaching at Tungco, pulling from Harvard Business School's Ranjay Gulati, Frances Frei's Trust Triangle, Google's Project Aristotle, Phil Jackson's championship philosophy, and more. The guys get personal about their own leadership failures, the cost of silencing voice and choice on a team, and why the best leaders — from Patton to Michael Jordan — could have been even greater if they'd built safety instead of fear. This one runs longer than most episodes, but it's worth listening to every minute.

Everyone loses something. A person. A relationship. A version of the life you thought you'd have.In this episode of the Misfit Social Podcast, Cliff Nance, Paul Cook, and Royce Wilson sit down for one of their most human conversations yet — grief.They walk through the five stages (denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance), share personal stories of loss, and ask a harder question: how well are we actually doing at grieving as a society? Spoiler: not well. The guys dig into what it looks like to move from grief toward forgiveness, why bargaining and depression often cycle together, and why the stories we tell ourselves after a loss are everything. Whether you've lost a person, a relationship, a career, or a sense of purpose — this one's for you. Dare to hope.This episode shares personal experiences and perspectives on grief. It’s intended for general conversation and is not a substitute for professional medical or mental health support. If you’re struggling, consider reaching out to a qualified healthcare provider

What happens when a guy from youth ministry, banking, and the coal mines lands at one of the world's leading tungsten recycling companies — and becomes their best buyer ever?Meet Rob Doner.Rob's journey to Tungco started long before his first day on the job. He first crossed paths with Misfit co-host Paul Cook back in the late '90s through youth ministry in Ohio. And his connection to CEO Cliff Nance? That goes even deeper — Rob married Cliff's cousin. But don't let the family ties fool you into thinking it was all smooth sailing. Cliff once told Rob on a fishing trip at Peewee Lake in Madisonville, Kentucky — at just 15 years old — "I don't like you." Three fingers pointed and everything. But that’s water under the bridge and they can laugh about it today.Fast forward through banking careers, a stint working in the coal mines to make ends meet, and a pivotal Christmas Day conversation — and Rob found his way to Tungco, where he's now been for over a decade as a Senior Buyer in Procurement. He's built relationships with suppliers that took nine years of calls, visits, and trade shows before he ever bought a single pound of material. That's grit. That's tenacity. That's the Tungco way.In this episode, Rob and Cliff sit down with the Misfit crew (including co-hosts Paul Cook and Royce Wilson) to talk about what it really means to build trust in business, why relationships matter more than résumés, and how a father-son duo (Rob and his son Nate Doner) are now working side by side on the Tungco procurement team.You'll also hear about Nate's journey through the National Guard and Air Assault School at Fort Campbell, the story behind Tungco's "10 Truths," why Rob believes you have to be willing to do what other people won't, and a hilarious mountain-climbing story from Austria that still needs some therapy.🎧 This one's got heart, laughs, and wisdom for anyone in sales, procurement, or business relationships.

Is the traditional college path still worth it? Cliff Nance, Paul Cook, and Royce Wilson discuss noteworthy opinions on higher education such as Sam Altman's (OpenAI) controversial advice to delay college.They share their diverse educational journeys—Bible school, National Guard, self-taught tech—and discuss why hunger for learning matters more than credentials. The Misfit examine skilled trades facing massive worker shortages while universities sit on billion-dollar endowments yet charge crushing tuition. They explore practical alternatives: gap years for work experience, community college, apprenticeships, and personality assessments like Myers-Briggs and StrengthsFinder.Tungco is building its own internship programs instead of waiting for universities to deliver job-ready workers. AI is bringing "university in your pocket"—how do we prepare the next generation for this disruption?

When does government involvement in business help workers, and when does it hurt them? Recorded in Hanover, Germany during ITIA, Misfit Social Podcast hosts Cliff Nance, Paul Cook, and Royce Wilson dive into the expanding role of government in workplace decisions—from the U.S. Steel acquisition debate and tariff policy to healthcare mandates and the Affordable Care Act's impact on small businesses.The conversation explores real consequences: how Tungco's insurance costs skyrocketed after the ACA, why China produces 4x more steel than the U.S., and whether protectionist policies protect jobs or delay economic reality. They examine the German social democracy model where 50%+ taxes fund government-mandated benefits, compare capitalistic "grind it out" values against socialistic safety nets, and wrestle with questions about consumerism, debt culture, and generational expectations.From monopolies to super PACs, late-stage democracy to AI governance, this episode tackles uncomfortable truths about freedom, responsibility, and who should solve society's problems.

Tungco CEO and Misfit, Cliff Nance, sits down with Markus Ewecker, Managing Director of Tungco GmbH (since 2022) and HSS GmbH (appointed 2025 following Tungco's acquisition), for an inside look at Tungco's European operations recorded on-site at EMO Hannover. Markus shares the 20+ year journey from that first meeting with Steve Nance in Prague back in 2003, becoming a Tungco team member in 2013, to leading one of Europe's most sophisticated tungsten recycling operations today alongside his wife Jolanda and key team members Serdal Akpinar and Kerstin Bente near Düsseldorf, Germany.This conversation covers the nuts and bolts of tungsten procurement across Europe versus North America, the reality of German regulations (spoiler: it takes 12 months of paperwork just to move into an existing building), and how Markus' team sources material everywhere from Germany to the Middle East. You'll hear about the advantages of having a state-of-the-art, in-house laboratory that delivers analysis results in 48 hours instead of two weeks, the complexities of cross-border tungsten trade, and why stainless steel scrap traders often have tungsten carbide hiding in their yards.Markus opens up about team building and the DISC profiles that make procurement work, the transition when Tungco closed its Ireland facility and turned plant manager Jimmy Greene into a procurement rockstar (Cliff gives Jimmy a great shoutout around the 41-minute mark). He also reflects on learning by doing, adapting his communication style, and credits Harry Stender - founder of HSS Recycling - as the misfit who brought him into the Tungco family.Whether you're in the tungsten industry or just curious about how global metal recycling actually works behind the scenes, this episode delivers real talk about building relationships, navigating international business, and what it takes to run a specialty metals operation in Europe.

When does regulation protect us, and when does it hold us back? Recorded live at EMO in Hanover, Germany, Tungco CEO Cliff Nance and co-hosts Paul Cook and Royce Wilson dive into the difference between sensical and nonsensical regulation. Inspired by a scene from Yellowstone where Governor John Dutton challenges bureaucrats over "empirical evidence," the conversation explores everything from tungsten carbide and cobalt regulation under REACH and EPA frameworks to broader questions about human flourishing, personal freedom, and institutional trust. The team examines hazard vs. risk, correlation vs. causation, and why context matters more than blanket policies—whether discussing recycling sustainability, transgender rights, or road infrastructure. It's a frank, thoughtful exploration of how to evaluate policy through the lens of truth, scientific rigor, and pro-human values.

Season 4 finale! The Misfits close out Season 4 with some fun campfire talk about bourbon, books, business, believers, bird dogs, ballads and, of course, bungholes. Stay tuned for Season 5, filmed in Germany, where Tungco attended the EMO trade show.

What is Extractive Metallurgy? Misfits Cliff Nance, Paul Cook and Royce Wilson welcome guest Joseph Pearlman as he explains what that means (according to Joseph, it's "selectively extracting a target metal - such as ore or recycled materials - from a substrate"). Among other nuggets of knowledge, he also shares that there's 50 millions tons of e-waste generated per year... that's a lot of potential product to get out of our “trash”. Not just brains as a chemical engineering major - he was also on the track and field team.

When good leaders go bad. Have you ever experienced the disappointment when you find out “the truth” about someone you looked up to? Also, as a leader, have you ever considered the fear people have of disappointing you? Both perspectives can be revealing. Hosts Cliff Nance, Paul Cook and Royce Wilson share their stories - from both sides of the fence.

The Misfits - Cliff Nance, Paul Cook and Royce Wilson - discuss China's tech rise and how their GDP rivals ours in the time of Trump 47. Also covered in this week's episode is NATO’s effectiveness and tariffs. Are these worldwide tariffs critical to our economic survival? Are they ostensibly targeting China and are the pains of inflation worth it in the long game?

Hosts Cliff Nance, Paul Cook and Royce Wilson discuss what it takes to have a Healthy Herd and how to avoid Toxic Tribes.

Join the conversation with Cliff Nance, Paul Cook and Royce Wilson as The Misfits discuss vocation vs occupation. Can they co-exist or are they mutually exclusive?

The Misfits welcome Barry White - no, not that Barry White. He's a passionate fly fisherman and pastor who also works in construction and was previously a chimney sweeper. With a humorous approach, he shares his journey with host Cliff Nance, Paul Cook and Royce Wilson.

In this episode, the Misfits welcome Andy Cohen - Vice President of raw material purchasing and sale at Metal Conversions. A self-proclaimed sneakerhead, Andy is a long-time friend of both Cliff Nance and Tungco. As an industry leader in the recycling business and Convention Committee Chair at ReMA, Andy is well-known and respected. He's also got a great sense of humor, so we loved hanging with him in Breckinridge, Colorado.Directed, produced and edited by Adam Howell.

Cliff Nance welcomes his son, Evan Nance, onto the pod. From sorting bits on the floor to studying finance, Evan is well on his way to being the 3rd generation of Nance's at Tungco. His innovation and teamwork helped double material in a quarter of the amount of time, essentially tripling one aspect of production - before his 20th birthday. Proud dad, Cliff, and fellow Misfits, Paul Cook and Royce Wilson, have questions!Directed, produced and edited by Adam Howell.

Welcome to Season 4 of the Misfit Social Podcast! In this episode, Misfits Cliff Nance, Paul Cook and Royce Wilson discuss everything from Ford/Ferrari, Sabbath/Shabot and Maps/Paintings - with plenty of other interesting topics in between. We're excited to share another season with you! Stay tuned for "hard thinking on hard topics"... with quite a few laughs as well.Directed, produced and edited by Adam Howell.

In the season 3 finale, hosts Cliff Nance, Paul Cook and Royce Wilson open up about love. From reactive fathers watching their kids' sports to parents who don't speak enough to parents (and leaders) that say too much. When it comes to business - or family - are you perpetuating a cynical environment of diminishing returns or are you curating curiosity with kindness and igniting inspiration? When in doubt, remember to LOVE WELL... and be a MISFIT. Thank you for watching and listening to Season 3... stay tuned for another season of Misfit Social!Directed, produced and edited by Adam Howell.

Let's talk about immigration, baby. Let's talk about you and me. Let's talk about all the good things and the bad things that may be. Let's talk about immigration. Buckle up and get ready for a rollercoaster of an episode with the Misfits! Hosts Cliff Nance, Paul Cook and Royce Wilson share opinions, stats and observations about the current administration and the topic of immigration in the United States - how our country started, how it impacts our economy and how it continues to make headlines today.

This episode's misfit - Paul Kleckley - sits down with hosts Cliff Nance, Paul Cook and Royce Wilson. He talks about his days working with Haliburton in the oil and gas industry before co-owning A&P Carbide. A long time friend of Tungco, Paul tells his story with a sense of humor and a down to earth relatability.

Have you or someone you care about ever experienced burn out? In theis episode, hosts Cliff Nance, Paul Cook and Royce Wilson candidly share their stories about work and the boundaries within which they operate. Are we a culture that's placing an unhealthy amount of value on "workism" and, if so, how do we navigate the fine line between financial stability and self-worth?

On this episode of Misfit Social, we hear from Nick Rich, Commodity Manager at Omni Source - one of the largest scrap companies in the United States with over 70 locations. Working specifically in the non-ferrous division with aluminum, stainless steel and copper, Nick has done business with host Cliff Nance's company, Tungco, for many years. Listen as they talk shop and discuss the political climate in the recycling world with co-hosts Paul Cook and Royce Wilson.

Betrayal can be brutal. Sometimes it may seem that we're the victim and our enemy has taken advantage of us. But when we unpack it, often times, and as painful as it may seeme, we played a role in our own undoing. In this episode, hosts Cliff Nance, Paul Cook and Royce Wilson discuss betrayal from a spiritual context as well as offer their opinions on the secular take of what it means to be on the "right" side. Who's side are you on, anyway?

The Misfits welcome Kaci King, CEO of West Ohio Tool Co. As she and host Cliff Nance are both second generation in the metals industry, they delve into the ups and downs of family business.

What does "coaching" mean to you? Hosts Cliff Nance, Paul Cook and Royce Wilson discuss coaching in business - and in life - and the importance of setting guidelines while providing constructive feedback and holding our “team” accountable.Directed, produced and edited by Adam Howell.

Host Cliff Nance explains why tungsten is a critical raw material, vital to every aspect of our lives. This episode’s guest, Debbie West - Chief Operating Officer at Lineage Metallurgical, a Tungco brand - provides examples of how we use tungsten morning to night, perhaps without even knowing it. From industries as varied as horses, golfing, automotive (both EV and petrol), aerospace, agriculture, medical and many more, element #74 is everywhere.

Hello, Misfits, and welcome to the Season 3 premiere of the Pod! When was the last time you were seriously offended by someone or something? Hosts Cliff Nance, Paul Cook and Royce Wilson recall stories from their own lives when they were offended and, also, when they might've been offensive themselves. When the time comes, will you look in the mirror or out the window?Thanks for watching, and listening!#newyorktimes #podcast #microaggression #relational #nicksaban #fancisfrei #harvardbusinessschool #dallaswillard #coaching #greystonecastle #tungstenDirected, produced and edited by Adam Howell.

The Misfits discuss why they wanted to start a podcast, why they feel obliged to challenge the status quo and why they intend to continue asking questions and sharing their opinions.

Episode 210: Baptiste Lucas - Disney Animator. From Paris to Los Angeles, Baptiste Lucas became an animator at Disney. He shares his journey with Misfit hosts Cliff Nance and Paul Cook, along with co-host Adam Howell, in this episode covering topics ranging from American culture (cuisine and basketball) to how AI might reshape the way we, literally, come to view future art and what can be done to sketch out a plan to continue giving credit where credit is due.

The “end times” is big business. And whether you believe in it or not, most religions - and plenty of Hollywood movies - want to talk about it. Throughout history, we’ve been inundated with imagery and stories about righteousness vs. eternal damnation. So, if there’s a Hell, it’ll be one hell of an ending. Cliff Nance, Paul Cook and Royce Wilson discuss their personal journeys surrounging this intriguing subject.

As a Physical Therapist, Jackleen helped co-host Paul Cook recover after shattering his shoulder in a horrendous motorcycle crash. She’s the co-founder and CEO of Resilient Healthcare, which offers technology and management solutions to hospitals so that they can provide programs for their patients. In this episode, Paul and the other Misfits (Cliff Nance and Royce Wilson) discuss healthcare and big business.

From overseeing $3 billion in construction at Southwest Airlines to helping scale the sit-stand VariDesk, Jeff Lamb has decades of experience in corporate leadership. In this episode of Misfit Social Podcast, he shares his “people first” approach with hosts Cliff Nance, Paul Cook and Royce Wilson. Jeff currently serves on the board of Lionheart Children’s Academy, which utilizes unused church space to provide childcare.

Did you ever think the words “sacred” and “wound” could be related? Well, “Papa Joe” is here to tell you they can. In this poignant episode of the Misfit Social Podcast, hosts Cliff Nance, Paul Cook and Royce Wilson partake in a prayer for the sacred wounds of the world - and within us. ‘Complicated’ indicates fragility. ‘Complex’ is anti-fragile. - Cliff Nance. We hope you find joy in this emotional episode.

This is not a deep fake. But hosts Cliff Nance, Paul Cook and Royce Wilson do take a deep dive into the ever-evolving, ever upon us world of Artificial Intelligence. Be prepared for "hard thinking on hard topics" in this episode of Misfit Social Podcast. Are you afraid?

Truly inspiring! Ana "Baby" Carolina Vieira and Luanna "Lu" Alzuguir are 10x world champions in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and, as a married couple and 1st generation immigrant business owners, they started the first openly gay martial arts studio in the USA. Hosts Cliff Nance, Paul Cook and Royce Wilson get the chance to talk with these courageous women on this episode of Misfit Social Podcast. Currently filming a documentary, they share their struggle against all odds to succeed while they grapple with extreme highs and lows on the world’s stage.Directed, produced and edited by Adam Howell.

Jay Leno's Garage, Motor Mythbusters and LA's Petersen Automotive Museum - just a few of the places you'll find Bisi Ezerioha's work. His story began in Nigeria, gained momentum in SoCal's street racing culture and accelerated to full speed when he became a pro-race car driver. He then became an in-demand engine builder and started his own company (Bisimoto Engineering) where he serves as CEO and Chief Engineer. His story is both inspiring and exhilarating. Hosts Cliff Nance, Paul Cook and Royce Wilson welcome a wide-ranging Misfit conversation about fuel, fun and the future of automobile customization.Directed, produced and edited by Adam Howell.

In this episode, Cliff Nance, Paul Cook and guest host Adam Howell sit down with metals, manufacturing and marketing expert, Jennifer Betts. Get ready for "hard thinking on hard topics".

The Misfits are back! Season 2 opens with hosts Cliff Nance, Paul Cook and Royce Wilson jumping right into the fire as they discuss scandals within society, the church and other heated news-worthy headlines. Be prepared for "hard thinking on hard topics".

In the Season 1 finale episode, hosts Cliff Nance, Paul Cook and Royce Wilson sit down with Jenny Gibson. When she wasn't devoting herself to non-profits and small town civil servant work, she was a restauranteur involved in banking and real estate - and that's all after she decided to stop practicing law as an attorney! With a great sense of humor and humble self-reflection, Jenny shares her journey with us. That's a wrap on Season 1. Stay tuned for Season 2... coming soon! Don't forget to "like" and subscribe!

In this powerful and deeply personal episode of Misfit Social, hosts Cliff Nance, Paul Cook and Royce Wilson sit down with Tim Morgan—known to some as a ”Night Stalker," and to others as pastor, guru, and all-around badass. Tim shares his extraordinary journey from military aviation in the elite Night Stalkers unit to serving as a pastor, and how faith, resilience, and brotherhood have shaped his path.Tim opens up about the life-altering accident that left his wife, Audrey, paralyzed, and how they faced the unimaginable with courage and determination. With stories of high-stakes missions, overcoming personal struggles, and embracing the unexpected turns of life, this conversation is a testament to grit, grace, and the unbreakable bonds of community.💥 Expect laughter, inspiration, and raw honesty in an episode you won’t want to miss.

In this episode of The Misfit Social podcast, the Cliff, Paul and Royce interviewed Shannon Payton, a contractor and accomplished softball coach. The discussion covered Shannon's journey from coaching his daughter Mallory to leading a championship-winning team. Shannon shared insights about coaching philosophy, player development, and the evolution of coaching methods. He discussed how his daughter's journey from playing at age 5 to becoming a doctor at 25 shaped his coaching approach. Shannon speaks on the importance of adapting coaching styles to individual players' needs, the significance of building trust, and the balance between pushing players to achieve their potential while maintaining a positive environment. Shannon also shared details about his team's success, including winning the state championship in 2017 and developing players who went on to play at the collegiate level. He reflections on modern coaching challenges, including the impact of technology and social media on youth sports.

Misfit Social Podcast - Episode 9: Finding Strength in Adversity with Amber BakerIn this episode of Misfit Social, we sit down with Amber Baker, a resilient and inspiring individual who has navigated life’s challenges with unwavering determination. Amber shares her journey of overcoming obstacles, embracing change, and finding purpose through adversity.Together, we dive into the power of mindset, the importance of authentic connections, and how misfits like us can turn struggles into opportunities for growth. Whether you're seeking motivation, a fresh perspective, or just a real and honest conversation, this episode is for you.Tune in as we challenge the norms, break down barriers, and remind ourselves that being different is our greatest strength.

In this episode of Misfit Social, we sit down with entrepreneur Heather Hardin, a bold risk-taker who turned her passion into a thriving business. Heather shares her journey—the challenges, the wins, and the unexpected lessons along the way. We dive into the mindset of a true misfit entrepreneur, exploring what it takes to build something from the ground up while staying true to yourself. From overcoming obstacles to embracing the unknown, this conversation is packed with insight, inspiration, and a few laughs. Whether you’re an aspiring business owner or just love a good success story, you won’t want to miss this episode!

In this episode of Misfit Social, we sit down with Kevin Cotton—entrepreneur, community leader, and mayor—who shares his journey of balancing business and public service. From building a successful career as an entrepreneur to leading a city with vision and purpose, Mayor Cotton brings powerful insights on leadership, resilience, and the importance of staying connected to the people you serve. Join hosts Cliff, Paul, and Royce as they dive into Kevin’s experiences, discussing the challenges of entrepreneurship, the role of innovation in governance, and what it takes to create lasting impact in a community. Whether you’re a business owner, aspiring leader, or just someone looking for inspiration, this episode is packed with valuable takeaways.

In Episode 6 of Misfit Social, Cliff, Paul, and Royce dive into the complex and often polarizing topic of Christian Nationalism. Together, they explore its historical roots, cultural implications, and how it intersects with modern-day politics, faith, and societal values. This thought-provoking conversation challenges listeners to critically examine the balance between faith and patriotism, the potential for unity or division, and the responsibility of individuals to engage in meaningful dialogue around such significant topics. Whether you’re curious about the movement, concerned about its impact, or just seeking to better understand, this episode offers a space to unpack the nuances with grace and curiosity.

In Episode 5 of Misfit Social, Cliff, Paul and Royce sit down with Steve Nance, the founder and CEO of a groundbreaking company, to discuss the power of visionary leadership and staying true to core values in the face of challenges.Steve shares his journey of building a successful business from the ground up, the lessons learned along the way, and how he maintains a people-first approach in his leadership style. From navigating tough decisions to fostering a culture of collaboration and innovation, this conversation offers actionable insights for leaders, entrepreneurs, and anyone striving to make an impact in their field.Get ready for an inspiring and thought-provoking episode as we explore what it means to lead with purpose and integrity in today’s ever-changing world.Tune in now to Misfit Social and let’s continue shaping social thought through joyful connections and critical thinking.

In Episode 4 of Misfit Social, Cliff Nance, Paul Cook and Royce Wilson sit down with Lance Ford, author, coach, consultant, and co-founder of the Sentralized Conference. With over three decades of experience as a pastor and church planter, Lance shares his insights on building community, developing leaders, and creating systems that inspire transformative change. Lance discusses his work in designing unique training systems used by leaders and organizations worldwide, as well as his perspective on the evolving landscape of leadership. Drawing from his books, including Next Door As It Is In Heaven, UnLeader, and his latest release, The Starfish and The Spirit (co-authored with Alan Hirsch and Rob Wegner), Lance dives into themes of decentralized leadership and the power of grassroots movements in shaping the future.Whether you’re a leader, community builder, or someone passionate about creating meaningful connections, this episode offers a wealth of wisdom and actionable takeaways.Subscribe to Misfit Social and join us as we explore the intersection of faith, leadership, and social impact.Directed, produced and edited by Adam Howell.