MIT/CRE Meet the Visionaries

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MIT/CRE Meet the Visionaries

In this semimonthly, student-driven podcast, MIT Center for Real Estate will interview industry leaders to uncover the insights, strategies, and stories from the visionaries who are shaping the industry. Join us as we explore the ever-evolving landscape of real estate, from innovative technology and finance models to the latest sustainable practices. Get ready to gain valuable perspectives and be inspired by the visionaries who are leading the way into the future of real estate development.

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    Building for AI: Capital, Power, and Risk in Next-Generation Data Center Development

    In this episode of Meet the Visionaries, interviewer Monisha Nasa speaks with Hossein Fateh, founder and CEO of Cloud Capital and CloudHQ, about the future of digital infrastructure. Drawing on decades of experience in developing and operating data centers worldwide, Fateh discusses how the industry has evolved from cloud to AI, the differences between training and inference AI facilities, and the growing importance of power, location, and underwriting discipline. He also shares perspectives on global expansion, development risk, renewable energy, and the policy case of data centers as critical infrastructure.Director: Denise DeLoreyInterview by: Monisha NasaProduction by: Monisha Nasa / Lacey CochranMusic from #Uppbeat:https://uppbeat.io/t/mark-july/dance-with-meLicense code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E

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    Investing through Real Estate Market Shifts

    In this episode of Meet the Visionaries, MIT Center for Real Estate students Ryan Othman and Jainil Shah sit down with David DesPrez, Partner on Bain Capital’s Special Situations team, to explore how one of the industry’s leading investors navigates real estate dislocation across debt and equity.David shares how Bain approaches capital solutions, distressed investing, and platform-based real estate strategies, while offering insights on today’s market dynamics across office, multifamily, industrial, hotels, and senior living. The conversation also dives into sourcing proprietary deals, assessing risk across cycles, and where opportunity may emerge next in commercial real estate.Director: Denise DeLoreyInterview by: Ryan Othman, Jainil ShahProduction by: Lacey CochranMusic from #Uppbeat:https://uppbeat.io/t/mark-july/dance-with-meLicense code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E

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    The Next Step: Real Estate Decision-Making in India’s Growing Hospitality Sector

    In this episode of Meet the Visionaries, Jainil Shah sits down with Nirupa Shankar, Joint Managing Director of Brigade Group, for a wide-ranging conversation on leadership, strategy, and building resilience in India’s real estate and hospitality markets.Drawing on her experience across consulting, hospitality, and development—as well as her discipline as an Ironman triathlete—Nirupa reflects on how these experiences shaped her approach to problem solving, discipline, and decision making.The conversation explores her transition into leadership within a legacy organization and the mindset shift required to move from analysis to ownership of outcomes. Nirupa shares how she navigated the post COVID revival of hospitality, the rise of flexible workspaces, and creating value with mixed use developments through a powerful “halo effect.”Looking forward, Nirupa discusses how innovation, technology, and sustainability are reshaping real estate, which inspired her to start Brigade REAP and the Earth Fund. A grounded and thoughtful dialogue on how endurance and adaptability play in global real estate.Director: Denise DeLoreyInterview by: Jainil ShahProduction by: Lacey CochranMusic from #Uppbeat:https://uppbeat.io/t/mark-july/dance-with-meLicense code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E

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    The Forces Reshaping Global Real Estate

    MSRED candidate Michael Khamis welcomes David Steinbach, Global Chief Investment Officer at Hines, to MIT’s Center for Real Estate for an in-person conversation. David made the trip from Houston to Cambridge to sit down with our students and share his perspective on the forces reshaping global real estate.With more than 25 years at Hines and oversight of a platform that has grown from roughly $10 billion to over $90 billion in assets under management, David offers a vantage point across cycles, geographies, and sectors. In this episode, we cover:·        Where we are in the global real estate cycle — and what makes this downturn and recovery fundamentally different·        How Hines is navigating the repricing of risk and a higher cost of capital environment·        The tension between deglobalization and global capital flows, and why local market knowledge has never mattered more·        Structural conviction in the living sector — from multifamily and build-to-rent to student housing and senior living — amid a deepening global housing shortfall·        How recent executive action on single-family rental acquisitions is reshaping BTR and SFR investment strategy·        The rise of powered land plays: why power availability and grid capacity are becoming the defining constraint for data centers and AI-driven infrastructure·        Lessons from working alongside the legendary Gerald Hines·        Advice for students and early-career professionals who aspire to lead at a strategic levelWhether you're an investor, developer, student, or anyone trying to make sense of where real estate goes from here, this conversation is essential listening.Director: Denise DeLoreyInterview by: Michael KhamisProduction by: Michael Khamis / Lacey CochranMusic from #Uppbeat:https://uppbeat.io/t/mark-july/dance-with-meLicense code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E

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    Energizing and Decarbonizing Logistics at Global Scale

    In this episode of Meet the Visionaries, MIT/CRE student Monisha Nasa sits down with Susan Uthayakumar, Chief Energy and Sustainability Officer at Prologis, one of the world’s largest logistics real estate company. Susan shares her career journey leading to her role in global sustainability at Prologis.She outlines how Prologis is transforming logistics real estate through sustainable design, on‑site energy generation, fleet electrification, and data‑driven emissions management. Susan discusses the challenges and opportunities of decarbonizing Scope 3 emissions, the impact of AI-driven energy demand, and the company’s approach to microgrids, modular data centers, and emerging technologies like modular nuclear.Offering an optimistic view of the future, she emphasizes collaboration, innovation, and purpose-driven work. Susan encourages students and industry leaders to take risks, experiment boldly, and care deeply about the problems they choose to solve.Interview by:  Monisha Nasa / MSRED 2026Director: Denise DeLoreyProduction: Lacey CochranMusic from #Uppbeat:https://uppbeat.io/t/mark-july/dance-with-meLicense code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01ELearn more: https://www.prologis.com/about/our-story/leadership/susan-uthayakumar

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    Building Trust: Aligning Capital, Design, and Community

    In this episode of Meet the Visionaries, Jainil Shah sits down with Adam Gordon, Managing Partner at Wildflower, for a thoughtful conversation on real estate investing, design-led development, and building enduring platforms in complex urban environments.Adam shares how Wildflower approaches investment through a deep understanding of demand, long-term trends, and human behavior. The discussion explores how conviction is built over time, why small and intentional gestures matter in relationship-building, and how developers can create value by aligning capital, design, and community impact. Adam also reflects on leadership, decision-making under uncertainty, and what it takes to build trust across cycles.A candid and inspiring conversation for investors, operators, and students interested in how thoughtful development and principled leadership come together in practice.Interview by:  Jainil Shah / MSRED 2026Director: Denise DeLoreyProduction: Lacey CochranMusic from #Uppbeat:https://uppbeat.io/t/mark-july/dance-with-meLicense code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01ELearn more: https://www.wildflowerltd.com

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    Outlook 2026: Translating Insights into Strategy

    In this episode of Meet the Visionaries, Jainil Shah sits down with Sally Ann Flood, U.S. Real Estate Sector Leader at Deloitte, for a thoughtful conversation on navigating today’s real estate cycle with judgment and conviction.Drawing on her research and decades of experience across multiple market cycles, Sally Ann shares why the current moment represents a pause rather than a stop, how leaders should think about decision-making under uncertainty, and what separates firms that emerge stronger from those that stall. The discussion explores capital availability, the growing role of private credit, collaboration through joint ventures, and how data, experience, and long-term perspective come together in real-world decisions.A timely and grounded conversation for students, investors, and operators seeking clarity amid complexity. Interview by: Jainil Shah, MSRED Candidate 2026Director: Denise DeLoreyProduction: Lacey CochranMusic from #Uppbeat:https://uppbeat.io/t/mark-july/dance-with-meLicense code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01ELearn more: https://www.deloitte.com/

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    Lifting Cities: Design, Civic Partnership, and Social Impact

    In this episode of Meet the Visionaries, MSRED student Michael Khamis speaks with MaryAnne Gilmartin, Founder and CEO of MAG Partners, about what it means to build cities with conviction, purpose, and long-term vision. MaryAnne traces her path from public service in New York City’s economic development ecosystem to leading transformative real estate projects in the city, including the Barclays Center, the New York Times Building, and New York by Gehry. The conversation explores MaryAnne’s decision to launch MAG Partners, grounded in a belief that a development firm can be both principled and profitable. She discusses navigating capital formation through volatile cycles, the importance of patient capital, and why she continues to bet on New York City despite political and market headwinds. MaryAnne also offers a candid assessment of housing policy, public-sector collaboration, and what functional public–private partnerships require.MaryAnne reflects on MAG Partners’ mission-driven approach to development, including naming buildings after unsung women leaders and designing projects that prioritize beauty, sustainability, and community impact. As she states, “An urban developer can lift a city,” a sentiment that portrays both the responsibility and opportunity embedded in the profession.Interview by: Michael Khamis / MSRED 2026Director: Denise DeLoreyProduction: Michael Khamis / Lacey CochranMusic from #Uppbeat:https://uppbeat.io/t/mark-july/dance-with-meLicense code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01ELearn more: https://magpartners.com

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    Healthcare Developments: Leading in a Complex Landscape

    In this episode, we meet with Chris Bilotto, Executive Vice President at The RMR Group, and President & CEO of both Diversified Healthcare Trust and Service Properties Trust. With leadership roles spanning healthcare real estate, hospitality, and a diverse portfolio of operating properties, Chris shares how he navigates the complexities of managing large, dynamic real estate platforms.From lessons in operational excellence to the evolving demands of healthcare assets and the future of service-oriented real estate, Chris offers insights shaped by decades of hands-on experience. He discusses RMR’s integrated approach, the importance of aligning operations with long-term value creation, and what it means to lead teams through thoughtful business practice.Whether you’re interested in REIT management, sector-specific challenges, or broader leadership wisdom, learn from an experienced executive driving strategy across multiple major real estate trusts.Interview by: Shagun Kalra MSRED Candidate 2026Director: Denise DeLoreyProduction: Shagun Kalra / Lacey CochranMusic from ⁠⁠⁠#Uppbeat⁠⁠⁠:⁠⁠⁠https://uppbeat.io/t/mark-july/dance-...⁠⁠⁠License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E

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    Rethinking Place & Space: Smart City Infrastructure, Innovation Economies, and Adaptive-Reuse Projects

    In this episode, host Michael Khamis, a student in the MIT Master of Science in Real Estate Development program, sits down with EvanRegan-Levine, Chief Strategy Officer at JBG SMITH (NYSE: JBGS)—one of the most influential real estate owners and developers in the Washington, D.C. region. Together, they explore how JBG SMITH is reshaping urban districts through data-driven strategy, digital infrastructure, and long-term placemaking. Evan shares insights into the transformation of National Landing—home to Amazon HQ2 and Virginia Tech’s Innovation Campus—and discusses how the firm’s contrarian bets on adaptive reuse and smart-city infrastructure are positioning it for the next generation of mixed-use development. The conversation spans from strategy to execution, revealing how JBG SMITH blends technology, capital-markets insight, and long-term vision to create lasting value for its shareholders. Evan reflects on the evolution of National Landing into a connected innovation district and the lessons learned in building an ecosystem anchored by Amazon, Virginia Tech, and the Pentagon. He discusses the firm’s growing pipeline of adaptive-reuse projects—from Tysons Dulles Plaza to Bell Street—and how these efforts are redefining the urban fabric of the D.C. region. Along the way, Evan unpacks the importance of higher-education anchors in fueling innovation economies and shares how JBG SMITH balances visionary placemaking with the discipline of a public-company framework, from share buybacks to portfolio repositioning.Whether your interests lie in urban transformation, smart infrastructure, or the future of real-estate strategy, this episode displays how visionary leadership and disciplined execution intersect to shape the cities of tomorrow.Interview by: Michael Khamis / MSRED Candidate 2026Director: Denise DeLoreyProduction: Michael Khamis / Lacey CochranMusic from ⁠⁠#Uppbeat⁠⁠:⁠⁠https://uppbeat.io/t/mark-july/dance-...⁠⁠License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01ELearn more: https://www.jbgsmith.com

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    Old House, New Trick: Japan's Housing Market Reimagined with Education and Technology

    In this episode, Shotaro Fujisawa, founder of Yamori (ヤモリ), joins us to discuss how his Tokyo-based startup is reimagining Japan’s housing market.Founded in 2019, Yamori tackles Japan’s growing vacant-home crisis by acquiring and rehabilitating underused properties, turning them into affordable rentals for overlooked groups such as foreign workers, single-parent families, and young renters. Beyond renovation, the company builds digital tools for landlords, offers beginner-friendly real estate education, and integrates smart home technology to improve safety and accessibility for elderly tenants.In this conversation, Shotaro explains the economic and cultural forces driving Japan’s vacant-home problem and how Yamori’s data-driven, community-based model is restoring both housing supply and social trust. Yamori is leveraging a special purpose company (SPC) model, a form of public-private partnership with local municipalities, to finance its projects and deliver affordable housing at scale.Shotaro’s story captures the courage, ingenuity, and resilience it takes to build from the ground up—showing how purpose-driven entrepreneurship can transform communities and redefine what housing means in Japan.Interview by: Cherry Tang / MSRED Candidate 2026Director: Denise DeLoreyProduction: Cherry Tang / Lacey CochranMusic from ⁠#Uppbeat⁠:⁠https://uppbeat.io/t/mark-july/dance-...⁠License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01ELearn more: https://www.yamori.co.jp

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    Real Estate's Tech Transformation: Strategy, Operations, Efficiency

    In this episode MSRED students Isabelle Turri and Cherry Tang sit down with David Blumenfeld, Co-Founder of NextRivet, to explore how technology and data-driven strategy are reshaping the real estate industry.From uncovering the true operational needs of Real Estate firms to crafting tailored tech solutions that enhance decision-making and efficiency, David shares how NextRivet’s consultative approach is redefining what it means to be a technology partner in real estate. The conversation dives into the intersection of business strategy, innovation, and the human side of digital transformation; revealing why understanding the why behind the problem is just as critical as building the solution.Interview by: Isabelle Turri and Cherry Tang / MSRED Candidates 2026Director: Denise DeLoreyProduction: Cherry Tang / Lacey CochranMusic from #Uppbeat:https://uppbeat.io/t/mark-july/dance-...License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E

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    Blueprints & Ballgames: Designing Baseball's Iconic Venues

    In this episode, architect and urban planner Janet Marie Smith joins us to reflect on her career shaping some of baseball’s most beloved ballparks. Her work has redefined the role of sports venues as engines of urban vitality and cultural identity.At Oriole Park, Janet Marie helped pioneer the “retro” ballpark movement that reconnected stadiums with their urban surroundings. In Boston, she led the modernization of Fenway Park, balancing preservation with progress. Moving west to Dodger Stadium, Janet Marie honored a mid-century icon while creating a more vibrant, inclusive fan experience. “A great ballpark,” she notes, “isn’t sustained by architecture alone but by the energy it inspires.” Her challenge was to distinguish what made the stadium’s design timeless from what had simply become dated. The resulting updates, including the new Centerfield Plaza, created a lively fan experience that celebrates Los Angeles’ culture and diversity.Now through The Canopy Team, Janet Marie continues to champion community-driven development, showing that great ballparks, like great cities, are defined not by their structures but by the people who bring them to life.Interview by: Cherry Tang / MSRED Candidate 2026Director: Denise DeLoreyProduction: Cherry Tang / Lacey CochranMusic from #Uppbeat:https://uppbeat.io/t/mark-july/dance-with-meLicense code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01ELearn more about The Canopy Team: https://canopyteam.com/

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    Talking Housing with Jay Parsons: Reading the Market in 2025

    In this episode of Meet the Visionaries, MSRED student Michael Khamis sits down with Jay Parsons, one of the industry’s renowned rental housing economists and strategists,  for a deep dive into the forces shaping housing and capital markets in 2025 and beyond. From the ripple effects of immigration policy on construction labor and project feasibility to the rent slowdown, shifting housing policy, and the limits of monetary easing, Jay unpacks the data and narratives driving today’s real estate economy. The conversation also explores the 2025–2026 supply peak, evolving migration patterns, and what REIT earnings can tell us about the road ahead for multifamily performance and valuation.Interview by: Michael Khamis / MSRED 2026Director: Denise DeLoreyProduction: Michael Khamis / Lacey CochranMusic from #Uppbeat:https://uppbeat.io/t/mark-july/dance-with-meLicense code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E

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    (SEASON PREMIERE) Scaling Sustainability: Urban Transformation in India

    In this episode, we sit down with Aun Abdullah, Vice President of Lodha Group and head of the Environment and Sustainable Urbanization agenda at the Lodha Foundation. Aun leads the Net Zero Urban Accelerator, a partnership between Lodha and the RMI India Foundation, and his work spans every scale of the built environment—from ultra-efficient buildings to the design of Palava, a planned urban township built on the 5-10-15 neighborhood planning principle. Aun is shaping India’s national decarbonization and urbanization pathway. We explore the personal side of Aun’s journey: what first sparked his passion for climate-positive development, how he became involved in the creation of Palava, and the lessons it offers for cities worldwide. Along the way, Aun discusses how policy, industry practices, and market forces must evolve in sync to make efficiency and sustainability a defining principle of construction. With 100 million Indian households projected to enter homeownership in the coming decade, Aun situates Lodha Group’s work within the larger challenge of creating livable, economically viable, and low-carbon urban spaces.Interview by: Soala Ajienka / MSRED 2025Director: Denise DeLoreyProduction: Soala Ajienka / Lacey CochranMusic from #Uppbeat:https://uppbeat.io/t/mark-july/dance-with-meLicense code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E

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    Experiential Real Estate: Riding the Wave of Surf Park Development

    In this episode, we welcome the dynamic and inspiring Nicholas Edelman, CEO and Founder of surf park development company Aventuur. Aventuur is on a mission is to create exceptional surfing destinations and experiences that generate meaningful social and economic value. To do this, the company's secured the rights to the world’s leading wave-generating technology – the Wavegarden Cove – in markets across North America, Australia, New Zealand, Singapore and Fiji. They currently have three projects in active development.In our conversation, we dig deep into the business case for surf parks, including the unit economics, demand drivers, and secular trends that make it one of the hottest niches in commercial real estate right now. Nick also shares his personal journey - one filled with a love of sport, nature, and personal connection - and how he came to found Aventuur with a friend from graduate school and the backing of some heavy-hitting investors.Listeners will surely want to stay till the end to hear Nick provide an incredible anecdote about the early days of the company. From the beginning, though, this conversation is truly a masterclass in humble leadership, passion, and commercial real estate fundamentals.Interview by: Robby Mulcahy / MSRED Candidate 2025Director: Denise DeLoreyProduction by: Robby MulcahyMusic from ⁠⁠⁠#Uppbeat⁠⁠⁠: ⁠⁠https://uppbeat.io/track/mark-july/dance-with-me?rt=uc-referral⁠⁠License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E

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    Tech Innovations – Investing in the Built Environment Transition

    In the final episode of season two, we meet with Gregory Dewerpe, the Founder and Partner of NOA (formerly A/O), Europe's leading venture capital firm pioneering the transformation of the real estate and construction industries. Driven by a critical mission to decarbonize the built world and enhance its sustainability, Gregory brings a visionary and investment-focused perspective to identifying and scaling the innovative technologies essential for this transition. Sam Jakshtis (current MSRED student) and Gregory discuss how NOA's strategic investments are not just funding companies, but actively shaping a more efficient, resilient, and healthier future for how we build, live, and interact with our physical environment.Interview by Sam Jakshtis | MSRED 2025Director:  Denise DeLoreyProduction by: Lacey CochranMusic from ⁠⁠#Uppbeat⁠⁠License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01Ehttps://cre.mit.edu/

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    Repricing for the (Uncertain) Future: Real Estate, Property Value, and Climate

    This episode features MIT alum Dave Burt, CFA, Founder and CEO of DeltaTerra Capital, who is at the forefront of quantifying the growing risks the climate crisis poses to real estate and mortgage markets.Drawing on his background in managing a global macro portfolio as a Partner at BlueMountain Capital Management and his strategic leadership at Bain & Company, Dave offers a uniquely rigorous, data-driven perspective on uncovering often-overlooked climate-related market inefficiencies.In this conversation, current MSRED student Sam Jakshtis and Dave explore how his work is shaping a new understanding of property valuation and investment strategy in an era of increasing climate volatility.Paper Reference: Adaptation Using Financial Markets: Climate Risk Diversification through Securitization: https://www.nber.org/papers/w32244Interview by: Sam Jakshtis, MSRED Candidate 2025Director:  Denise DeLoreyProduction by: Lacey CochranMusic from ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#Uppbeat⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://uppbeat.io/track/mark-july/dance-with-me?rt=uc-referral⁠⁠⁠⁠License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01Ehttps://cre.mit.edu/

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    Building a platform for the next generation of real estate innovators

    In this episode, we're incredibly excited to welcome Brad Hargreaves and Paul Stanton of Thesis Driven.Thesis Driven's flagship online newsletter is widely considered one of the more thought-provoking and well-written real estate publications today, diving deep into emerging real estate themes, technologies, and funding models. The brand has grown in the past few years to include a podcast, an online and in-person learning platform, and a developer database that inventories hundreds of qualified, active real estate developers and owners. In this conversation, we discuss how Brad & Paul came together to form Thesis Driven, the platform's evolution, and what they see at the frontier of innovation in commercial real estate. Co-hosted by MIT graduate students Robby Mulcahy and Dean Firouzian, this conversation is a fun, free-flowing round table, full of thoughtful insights and fascinating anecdotes. Paul and Brad share a wealth of knowledge and years of experience founding, operating, and exiting successful real estate ventures, and their insider perspective is second-to-none.Interview by: Robby Mulcahy / MSRED Candidate 2025, Dean Firouzian / MSRED Candidate 2025Director:  Denise DeLoreyProduction by: Robby Mulcahy, Soala AjienkaMusic from ⁠⁠⁠⁠#Uppbeat⁠⁠⁠⁠: ⁠⁠⁠https://uppbeat.io/track/mark-july/dance-with-me?rt=uc-referral⁠⁠⁠License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01Ehttps://cre.mit.edu/

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    A Sit Down with Commercial Real Estate Luminary Willy Walker

    In this episode, we're honored to host one of the preeminent voices in commercial real estate today, Willy Walker.Willy is Chairman and CEO of Walker & Dunlop. Under his leadership, Walker & Dunlop has grown from a small, family-owned business to become one of the largest commercial real estate finance and advisory firms in the United States and internationally. Walker & Dunlop is listed on the New York Stock Exchange, and in its first ten years as a public company, its shares have appreciated more than 800%. The firm was also #17 on Fortune’s 2017 list of “Fastest Growing Public Companies” and has been named a Best Workplace for eight of the last eleven years by the Great Place to Work® Institute. Mr. Walker received the Ernst & Young Entrepreneur of the Year award in 2011, was named “Financier of the Year” in 2017 and 2020 by Commercial Property Executive and was selected as a Most Admired CEO by the Denver Business Journal in 2024.Willy shares the story of how he came to helm Walker & Dunlop, his early vision for the company, and how he's grown it from a modest, local real estate firm to one of the most recognized international real estate advisory companies in the world. He discusses the origin of his incredibly successful podcast, the Walker Webcast, as well as his approach to social media and brand building. We dive into Willy's thoughts on the state of the commercial real estate market today, and then end with a fun lightning round of questions in which Willy offers some great insight. Throughout, Willy provides heaps of advice for students, and young and mid-career professionals alike. His experience, deep understanding of capital markets, and quick wit make this episode a truly delightful and informative listen. Interview by: Robby Mulcahy / MSRED Candidate 2025Director:  Denise DeLoreyProduction by: Robby Mulcahy, Soala AjienkaMusic from ⁠⁠⁠#Uppbeat⁠⁠⁠: ⁠⁠https://uppbeat.io/track/mark-july/dance-with-me?rt=uc-referral⁠⁠License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01Ehttps://cre.mit.edu/

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    Beyond the Core: A Deep Dive with PREA’s Greg MacKinnon

    Greg MacKinnon, Director of Research at the Pension Real Estate Association (PREA) and a long time collaborator of the MIT Center for Real Estate, joins us on this episode of the Meet the Visionaries Podcast. Drawing on PREA’s deep industry reach and rigorous consensus forecasting, Greg offers a panoramic view of how shifts in capital markets, technology, and investor behavior are reshaping real estate.As head of research, Greg’s vantage point cuts across market cycles and geographic boundaries, giving him clear insight into how institutions are broadening their horizons, innovating through new construction methods, and even democratizing real estate for retail investors. He also expands on how rising insurance costs and climate events are making resilience a top priority for portfolios.  Tune in to discover how Greg’s bird’s-eye view at PREA illuminates the forces shaping a more inclusive, agile, and forward-thinking real estate landscape. Papers: MultifamilyRisk ExposureInterview by Soala Ajienka | MArch, MSRED 2025Director:  Denise DeLoreyProduction by: Soala AjienkaMusic from ⁠⁠⁠#Uppbeat⁠⁠⁠: ⁠⁠https://uppbeat.io/track/mark-july/dance-with-me?rt=uc-referral⁠⁠License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01Ehttps://cre.mit.edu/

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    Green Gains: The Business Case for Sustainable Real Estate

    In this episode, we sit down with Elena Alschuler, Head of Sustainability for the Americas at LaSalle. She acts as a central leader for sustainability and climate risk initiatives across all asset classes and investment products, collaborating closely with Portfolio Management, Transactions and Asset Management. Elena shares the business case behind sustainable real estate—how robust data, energy efficiency, and proactive climate-risk planning can enhance both asset value and environmental resilience. Listen in to learn about the evolving industry benchmarks that guide sustainability strategies, plus tangible ways investors can future-proof properties against climate shocks. Whether you’re new to real estate or a seasoned industry professional, this episode offers fresh perspectives on balancing profitability with sustainability.Papers: LaSalle, The Value of Green 2023JLL, Demand for Sustainable Buildings 2023Interview by Soala Ajienka | MArch, MSRED 2025Director:  Denise DeLoreyProduction by: Soala AjienkaMusic from ⁠⁠#Uppbeat⁠⁠: ⁠https://uppbeat.io/track/mark-july/dance-with-me?rt=uc-referral⁠License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01Ehttps://cre.mit.edu/

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    On Resilience, Conviction, and Thoughtful Design: Building a Successful Bay Area Business

    In this episode, we welcome Kabir Seth, Principal at San Francisco-based Presidio Bay Ventures, a vertically-integrated developer of commercial real estate for private and public sector tenants across the U.S. Presidio Bay Ventures' portfolio consists of mid- to large-scale office, life science and R&D spaces, mixed-use, urban infill multifamily communities, industrial distribution centers and other special-use facilities, with an emphasis on bespoke strategy and tailored design for each end-user. Kabir shares his own career journey, from growing up in Dubai to his studies at UC Berkeley, an early career in investment banking, and eventually partnering with PBV Managing Partner Cyrus Sanandaji to work first with public sector tenants and then strategically enter private development for a variety of uses.  He reflects on the state of the San Francisco real estate market, particularly in the context of the "doom-loop" narrative of the past few years, and why he thinks the city remains an excellent geography for investors and developers willing to adapt. We dive into several of Presidio Bay Ventures' most recent office projects, including Springline, the firm's "office resort" concept that's proved to be a smashing success.  Kabir's insights and candor make this episode a truly inspiring and thoughtful listen. Tune in for another great conversation with the visionary Kabir Seth. Interview by Robby Mulcahy | MSRED 2025Director:  Denise DeLoreyProduction by: Robby Mulcahy, Soala AjienkaMusic from ⁠#Uppbeat⁠: https://uppbeat.io/track/mark-july/dance-with-me?rt=uc-referralLicense code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01Ehttps://cre.mit.edu/

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    Affordable Housing: The Missing Middle

    In this episode, we welcome AJ Jackson, President of LEO Impact Capital, a subsidiary of JBG Smith focused on acquiring, financing, and operating workforce housing using an Impact Framework. AJ serves on numerous boards and advisory councils, including the Fannie Mae Affordable Housing Advisory Council, NMHC’s Workforce Housing Committee, and is Chair of the Advisory Board at the Randall Lewis Center for Sustainability in Real Estate at ULI. AJ shares his fundamental understanding of macroeconomic conditions impacting the demand for affordable and workforce housing in gateway and growing cities, navigating public policy to establish competitive solutions to reducing housing prices for cost-burdened renters, and LEO’s unique organizational structure in solving for the “missing middle.” With inflation and capital constraints impacting the public and private markets, housing remains at the forefront of national conversations. AJ offers listeners an abundance of knowledge on ways operators can leverage policy, public benefits, and technology to level the playing field. Tune in to learn how the private markets are paving the way for a future in workforce housing. Interview by: Dean Firouzian / MSRED Candidate 2025 Produced by: Lacey Cochran Music: #Uppbeat: https://uppbeat.io/t/mark-july/dance-with-me License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E

  25. 15

    The Game Plan: Real Estate Leadership

    In this episode, we welcome Joe Azelby, former NFL linebacker and current Head of Real Estate and Private Markets for UBS Asset Management. With a career spanning from professional sports to managing real estate, infrastructure, and private equity investments. Joe brings perspective to leadership, strategy, and the evolving real estate landscape. Hosted by Dean Firouzian, a student at the MIT Center for Real Estate, this episode delves into the current state of the real estate market and Joe’s role in navigating its complexities. He shares insights about investments in data centers and energy storage infrastructure, as well as strategies for transforming struggling office markets through public-private partnerships and incentive programs to achieve their highest and best use. Interview by: Dean Firouzian / MSRED Candidate 2025 Music from #Uppbeat License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E

  26. 14

    Architect of Change: Sustainability in Practice

    In this episode we welcome Tess McNamara, AIA, a Senior Sustainability Consultant at Arup and faculty member at the Yale School of Architecture. Tess shares her journey that propelled her to the intersection of research, design, and implementation, where she is driving advancements in sustainable built environments.   She offers insights into her role at Arup, where her research informs strategies designed to integrate a whole-life carbon perspective into projects. The conversation also explores her Yale course, Bad Buildings: Decarbonization through Reuse, Retrofit, and Proposition, which equips the next generation of architects with tools to tackle the challenges of sustainable, smart design.   As the challenges of sustainability in our buildings grows more complex, Tess reflects on the opportunities for architects and developers to collaborate in shaping resilient, future-ready spaces. Tune in to learn how Tess McNamara is inspiring meaningful change at the forefront of sustainable design and education.    Interview by: Robby Mulcahy / MSRED Candidate 2025 Music from #Uppbeat License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E

  27. 13

    Fusion Physicist to Real Estate Visionary

    In this episode, we sit down with Jill Brosig, Senior Managing Director and Chief Impact Officer at Harrison Street, a global investment management firm headquartered in Chicago. With a background as a physicist at Argonne National Laboratory, KMS Fusion, and Motorola, Jill brings a unique perspective to the pursuit of aggressive sustainability goals in real estate. As a pioneer in environmental initiatives, she is unlocking new opportunities to drive value through ESG-focused strategies. Our conversation delves into Harrison Street's expertise in identifying, acquiring, and managing alternative real assets, exploring how leadership is navigating the current market cycle. We discuss the evolving landscape of ESG in the built environment, highlighting Harrison Street's role in fostering partnerships that create operational and sustainable synergies. Around the world, project leaders are finding innovative ways to scale capacity for the growing technology and data sectors, and Harrison Street is at the forefront of these transformations. Tune in to discover how forward-thinking leaders like Jill Brosig are shaping the future of real estate — one bold initiative at a time. Interview by: Dean Firouzian / MSRED Candidate Produced by: Lacey Cochran Music from ⁠#Uppbeat⁠ License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E

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    Collaborative Development

    How can we create cities where people truly thrive? In this episode, Thure Krarup, Head of Global Stakeholder Relations at Urban Partners, joins us from Copenhagen to explore how meaningful, big-picture partnerships can drive lasting change at scale. Hosted by Soala Lolia Ajienka, a dual-degree Architecture and Real Estate Development student at MIT, this conversation delves into the transformative potential of networks, trust, and a shared vision for cities that put people first. Thure unpacks Urban Partners’ ambitious initiatives, like “Green and Thriving Neighborhoods”, in collaboration with C40 Cities, redefining sustainability with a focus on livability, equity, and health. We also discuss their "Leaders of the Urban Future" project, uniting global investors to build resilience into real estate and push the sector towards higher standards and clearer incentivization. Listen in as Thure shares insights on navigating the complex realities of public-private partnerships to ensure cities not only function but truly thrive, even amid shifting political landscapes and long-term uncertainties. Interview by: Soala Ajienka Narrated by: Kelly Cameron, EdD Produced by: Lacey Cochran Music from #Uppbeat License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E

  29. 11

    Shift to a Non-Linear World

    In this episode, we host Dror Poleg, Economic Historian and award-winning author of Rethinking Real Estate. Dror is an insightful voice on the evolving intersection of technology, work, and urban environments. Hosted by Larry Deng, a student at the MIT Center for Real Estate, this episode offers a fascinating deep dive into the forces reshaping how we live, work, and build. Dror shares his perspective on the future of work based on historic reference and its profound implications for the design and function of cities. He explores how shifts in technology, corporate strategy, and individual preferences are impacting real estate and how cities themselves might physically transform in response. From the decentralization of office spaces to the growing demand for flexible, hybrid environments, Dror reveals the new opportunities and challenges facing developers, investors, and policymakers alike. Interview by: Larry Deng / MSRED Candidate Music from #Uppbeat: License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E

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    Climate Impact and Rewarding Returns

    In our season premiere, we welcome Joe Sumberg, Head of Real Estate, and Nicolette Jaze, Head of ESG and Sustainability for Real Estate at Galvanize Real Estate. Together, they share the innovative sustainability principles that underpin Galvanize’s distinctive approach to real estate investment. Hosted by Sam Jakshtis, a student in the MIT Center for Real Estate, this episode showcases how Galvanize is reshaping asset value through a commitment to environmental responsibility. Throughout the conversation, Joe and Nicolette offer valuable insights into the strategic initiatives designed to enhance asset performance while reducing environmental impact. They discuss their leadership philosophies, the significance of collaboration in cultivating an inclusive company culture, and the metrics Galvanize uses to assess the effectiveness of its sustainability initiatives. Join us as we delve into the cutting-edge strategies being adopted in the current real estate landscape and uncover Joe and Nicolette’s vision for the industry’s future. Interview by: Sam Jakshtis / MSRED Candidate Narrated by: Kelly Cameron, EdD Production by: Lacey Cochran Music from #Uppbeat: License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E

  31. 9

    Practicing Real Estate with Purpose

    Onay Payne is a Senior Managing Director and Portfolio Manager at Manulife Investment Management, leading the firm’s ESG impact investment strategy. She works with various teams to screen investments, identify ESG risks and opportunities, optimize portfolios, enhance asset performance, maximize returns, and set ESG benchmarks. She is part of the global real estate leadership team. Join us as Onay shares her inspiring journey from immigrating to the U.S. from Jamaica to becoming a leader in real estate investment. Onay delves into her role at Manulife, focusing on ESG strategy and development, and discusses the importance of sustainable and inclusive investment. Discover how Onay and Manulife are driving positive environmental and social impacts while achieving market-rate returns. Don’t miss this insightful conversation about the future of real estate, the importance of diversity in the industry, and how innovative strategies are shaping more equitable outcomes. Interview by: Viet Nguyen, MSRED Candidate ’24 Narrated by: Dr. Kelly Cameron Produced by: Lacey Cochran PODCAST music: Music from #Uppbeat: https://uppbeat.io/t/mark-july/dance-with-me License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E

  32. 8

    Leadership for Sustainable Real Estate

    What do we need in transitional and uncertain times? Leaders. On this episode of Meet the Visionaries, we have the pleasure of interviewing Mahbod Nia, CEO of Veris Residential. We explore the sustainability values Veris Residential holds under Mahbod’s leadership, and learn more about how the company has undergone a strategic transformation. Hosted by Daniela Morales, student at the MIT Center for Real Estate, this episode highlights Mahbod’s decades-long real estate experience across multifamily and office investment, as well as management, financing, and advisory roles. Throughout Mahbod’s interview, he talks about his personal leadership style as a CEO, the role of his team in creating and maintaining an inclusive company culture, and ways Veris Residential measures the impact of its initiatives. Listen in as we dive into strategic ideas being implemented in the current real estate landscape, and learn more about what Mahbod sees for the future of the industry. Interview by: Daniela Morales /MCP Candidate ’25 Narrated by: Kelly Cameron, EdD Production: Lacey Cochran Music from #Uppbeat: https://uppbeat.io/t/mark-july/dance-with-me License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E

  33. 7

    Exploring Climate Resilience in Real Estate

    In this episode, join us as Viet Nguyen of MIT’s Center for Real Estate interviews Natalie Ambrosio Preudhomme, Associate Director at Moody’s Analytics CRE, a provider of innovative commercial real estate solutions for investors, lenders, and brokers. In her role, Natalie conducts research and outreach on the implications of climate risk, resilience and ESG on real estate markets and the built environment. From discussing the tangible impacts of climate events on real estate assets to dissecting the evolving regulatory landscape, we learn more about the challenges and opportunities shaping the industry. Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of how climate considerations are transforming the future of real estate. Narrated by: Dr. Kelly Cameron Music from #Uppbeat License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E

  34. 6

    Pioneer, New Frontier

    In this episode, join us alongside Peter Merrigan (MSRED ’93), CEO and Managing Partner of Taurus Investment Holdings, as he engages in a dynamic conversation with Viet Nguyen at MIT’s Center for Real Estate. Explore Peter's remarkable trajectory in the real estate industry, from his formative time in MIT's MSRED program to pioneering his first major deal and beyond.  Delve into the rich history of Taurus, a journey guided by Peter's leadership since 1997, marked by the successful completion of over 250 deals, surpassing $10 billion in value across 70 million square feet globally. Discover Peter's visionary insights into the future of real estate and sustainability, as he shares his perspectives on shaping a more sustainable and innovative industry future. Join us for an enlightening discussion on the evolution of Taurus. Interview by: Viet Nguyen, MSRED Candidate '24 PODCAST music: Music from #Uppbeat License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E

  35. 5

    A Better Working World

    In this episode, Ernst & Young (EY) industry leader Mark Grinis sits down with host Jason Ng at the MIT Center for Real Estate to discuss the ever-changing real estate, hospitality, and construction sector, and how EY fits into it. From Mark's early experiences in accounting to his current role managing a multi-billion dollar business at EY, listeners will gain valuable insights into his journey and leadership philosophy. Together, they dive into topics such as the impact of digital transformation and AI on real estate, the future of work, and social and environmental initiatives, offering listeners a comprehensive view of the industry's evolving landscape.  Interview by: Jason Ng, MSRED/MCP Candidate '24 Narration by: Dr. Kelly Cameron Produced by: Lacey Cochran Music from #Uppbeat License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E

  36. 4

    Building a Greener Future

    In this latest podcast episode featuring Luis Claudio Garcia de Souza, CEO and Founder of Finvest we explore how investments impact green innovations in the real estate sector, and their potential for transformative climate action. Hosted by Daniela Morales, student at the MIT Department of Urban Studies and Planning, this episode highlights Luis Claudio’s lifelong experience building successful enterprises, environmental impacts of real estate development, and Brazil’s potential role in addressing climate change. Throughout Luis Claudio’s interview, he highlights the importance of strong partnerships, the role of investment on cultural shifts in real estate, and how Latin America can be a key player in the future of climate action. As an MIT alumni and recent MIT visiting scholar Luis Claudio shares anecdotes and learnings from his time on campus and how they influenced his career. Listen in as we dive into environmental challenges and opportunities in the current real estate landscape, and learn more about what Luis Claudio envisions for the future of the industry. Interview by: Daniela Morales /MCP Candidate ’25 Narrated by: Kelly Cameron Ed.D Production and Graphics: Lacey Cochran Music from #Uppbeat: License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E

  37. 3

    Decentralized Housing Model

    Explore real estate innovation and community building in the latest podcast episode featuring Qian Wang, a seasoned real estate professional and visionary founder of Collab. Hosted by Jason Ng, student at the MIT Center for Real Estate, this episode unfolds Qian's journey through his career to developing Collab: a groundbreaking decentralized student housing real estate asset management platform that reimagines community ownership and engagement. From the transformative role of technology and data analytics in real estate to the empowering shift towards community-based practices, Qian shares valuable perspectives and experiences that redefine the future of the industry. Join us as we navigate crowdfunding dynamics, address challenges in traditional property management, and explore Collab's sustainable initiatives, offering a thought-provoking glimpse into the intersection of innovation and community in the real estate landscape. Interview by: Jason Ng, Qian Wang Narration by: R. Kelly Cameron Audio edits and graphics by: Lacey Cochran Music from #Uppbeat License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E

  38. 2

    Data, Climate and Real Estate: Overcoming Challenges with Cutting-Edge Technology

    In an era marked by climate volatility and global uncertainty, the quest to future-proof capital investment has never been more vital. Join us for a thought-provoking interview with Michael Ferrari, Chief Scientific & Chief Investment Officer at Climate Alpha, a pioneering AI-powered location analytics platform. Their objective? To revolutionize how we assess and price the future of geography in a rapidly changing world.  Michael sits down for an exclusive conversation with MIT’s Center for Real Estate to delve deep into Climate Alpha’s remarkable journey. Learn about the challenges they’ve encountered along the way and how they’re overcoming them with cutting-edge technology. Uncover their innovative approach as they navigate the path toward empowering their clients to strategically allocate capital into climate-resilient real and financial assets, ensuring a brighter, more sustainable future.  CREDITS Interview by: Viet Nguyen; Michael Ferrari Narration by: R. Kelly Cameron Audio edits and graphics by: Lacey Cochran Music from #Uppbeat License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E

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In this semimonthly, student-driven podcast, MIT Center for Real Estate will interview industry leaders to uncover the insights, strategies, and stories from the visionaries who are shaping the industry. Join us as we explore the ever-evolving landscape of real estate, from innovative technology and finance models to the latest sustainable practices. Get ready to gain valuable perspectives and be inspired by the visionaries who are leading the way into the future of real estate development.

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