Outside the Sanctuary

Hosts: Steve Entwistle, Marc McCleary, Lisa Merkh, and Bill Merkh The conversation opens with the crew diving into the world of Christian music, exploring why it resonates so deeply with some people and why it completely misses the mark for others. Steve, Marc, and Lisa talk about the songs that lift them, ground them, or help them reset during the week. Bill steps in as the lone dissenter, openly sharing that Christian music just doesn't do it for him, which sparks a lively and good‑natured debate that keeps the energy high. As the discussion unfolds, the group leans into the ongoing tension between worship and entertainment. They explore when a song becomes a performance, whether emotional impact equals spiritual depth, and how production value can either enhance or distract from the heart of worship. Each host brings a different angle, creating a conversation that is thoughtful, funny, and refreshingly honest about how music shapes faith communities. By the end, they land on a shared truth: whether you love Christian music, tolerate it, or avoid it like Bill, the intention behind it matters more than the style.

Batman Vs The Joker. Luke Vs Darth Vader. Harry Vs Voldemort. Bill Vs Katrina. This week on Outside the Sanctuary, the usual format gets tossed aside as Katrina McDonald and Bill Merkh go head to head in a lively, good natured debate over one surprisingly complicated question: Are screens actually good for you Armed with notes, research, and a few carefully prepared arguments, the two of them build their cases with confidence and conviction. Bill argues that screens can be powerful tools for learning, connection, and creativity. Katrina pushes back, highlighting the distractions, the overload, and the ways screens can quietly take over more of life than we realize. What follows is a fast, funny, imaginative back and forth where both sides make bold claims, poke holes in each other's logic, and laugh their way through a debate that's equal parts ridiculous and surprisingly insightful. It's a playful detour from the normal format, full of spontaneity, sharp opinions, and the kind of spirited sparring that only happens when two friends are having way too much fun.

In this deep dive of an episode of Outside the Sanctuary, hosts Steve Entwistle, Marc McCleary, and Bill Merkh sit down for a thoughtful, wide ranging conversation about the many English versions of the Bible and what sets them apart. What begins as a simple question Which translation should someone use unfolds into a rich discussion on accuracy, readability, theology, and personal growth. Together, the hosts explore which versions stay closest to the original Greek and Hebrew, which ones are best for new Christians, and how to decide between translations that prioritize word for word precision versus those that aim for thought for thought clarity. They talk through the strengths and weaknesses of popular versions, the role of study Bibles, and why the easiest to understand is not always the same as the most faithful. The conversation also takes a fascinating turn into textual criticism, including a look at the debated ending of the book of Mark and why some Bibles include it with notes while others bracket or omit it. Bill, Steve, and Marc bring a mix of scholarship, curiosity, and practical insight as they unpack how translation choices shape the way people read Scripture. Whether you are a longtime believer, a brand new Christian, or someone simply curious about how the Bible came to be the Bible, this episode offers clarity, insight, and plenty of good natured back and forth from a trio that loves both Scripture and honest conversation.

In this warm and often hilarious episode of Outside the Sanctuary, hosts Katrina McDonald, Vince McDonald Jr., and Bill Merkh welcome a very special guest: Holly McCleary, wife of fellow host Marc McCleary and a beloved part of the extended OTS family. What starts as a light, good natured conversation quickly unfolds into one of the most warm, candid, and story rich episodes of the season. Holly opens up about growing up in the church, painting a vivid picture of Sunday mornings, youth group culture, and the kind of faith environment that shaped her early years. Her reflections balance sincerity with the kind of humor only someone who has lived through decades of church life can deliver. As a mother of four, Holly brings a grounded, relatable perspective on parenting, sharing the joys, the chaos, the unexpected lessons, and the moments that make her laugh long after the fact. Katrina jumps in with her own mom life reactions, Vince adds his signature dry commentary, and Bill keeps the conversation moving with the perfect mix of curiosity and mischief. But the episode's biggest surprises come when Holly talks about her experiences as a home nurse. From tender moments with patients to the unpredictable, sometimes absurd situations that only happen in people's homes, she brings a treasure trove of stories. Some are touching, some are downright wild, and all of them reveal the compassion, resilience, and humor required to do the work she does. The result is an episode that feels like sitting around a living room with friends, laughing, learning, and appreciating the people who quietly hold communities together. Holly shines, the hosts are in peak form, and listeners walk away with a deeper appreciation for faith and family.

This week on Outside the Sanctuary, hosts Marc McCleary, Katrina McDonald, and Bill Merkh sit down with a beloved member of the Immanuel Baptist Church family, Theresa Suplee. Theresa brings a lifetime of faithfulness, resilience, and joy to the conversation. A mother of three with children and grandchildren in New Jersey and Ohio, she reflects on how family, distance, and changing seasons have shaped her walk with God. As a dedicated preschool teacher, she shares her deep love for her students, the calling she feels in her work, and the small everyday moments that remind her why she loves what she does. Through the ups and downs of life, Theresa and her husband, Marshall, have leaned on God’s steady presence. She opens up about what trust looks like in difficult times, how faith has carried them through challenging chapters, and why gratitude remains at the center of her story. It’s a warm and encouraging episode that feels like sitting with a friend who speaks with honesty, hope, and a heart anchored in faith.

This week on Outside the Sanctuary, Steve Entwistle and Bill Merkh welcome Vince McDonald Jr. for a conversation that feels less like an interview and more like pulling up a chair to listen to three friends talk honestly about their walk with God. Accountability isn't theoretical for them. It's lived. It's shared. It's something Steve and Vince Jr. have practiced together for years, showing up for one another in the moments when faith feels strong and in the moments when it doesn't. They talk about what it's like to let someone see the real you, the doubts, the habits you're trying to break, the places where you need grace and truth at the same time. Bill brings his own reflections on what it means to be accountable to God, not out of fear but out of relationship. The three of them explore how God uses people in our lives to steady us, challenge us, and remind us who we're becoming. There's laughter, there's honesty, and there's the unmistakable sense that this is what Christian community is supposed to feel like. This episode is an invitation to step a little closer to God and a little closer to each other. It's a reminder that accountability isn't about being watched, it's about being known, supported, and loved enough to grow.

Pastor Vince McDonald, Katrina McDonald, and Bill Merkh welcome back a good friend of the show, Pastor Shane Colwell from Grace Bible Church of Barrington, who returns with his brand‑new book, A Life Worth Following: Godly Leadership Lessons from the Life of Boaz. Together, the panel dives into the often‑overlooked leadership brilliance of Boaz, exploring how the book of Ruth offers a surprisingly rich blueprint for integrity, compassion, and strength in everyday life. Shane unpacks why Boaz's character still resonates today and how his steady, sacrificial leadership points us toward something even greater. The conversation ultimately turns to Christ as the “better Boaz,” the true Redeemer who fulfills the story's deepest themes and shows us what perfect leadership looks like. It's thoughtful, warm, and full of the kind of insight that makes Scripture feel alive and relevant. A great listen for anyone who wants to grow as a leader, deepen their faith, or simply enjoy a rich conversation among friends.

In this episode of Outside the Sanctuary, hosts Marc McCleary, Katrina McDonald, and Bill Merkh open up about what it really means to live a Christian life beyond the church walls. Their conversation is candid and deeply personal as they explore how faith shows up in everyday moments when people are watching, whether it's children learning from what they see at home, coworkers observing how you handle pressure, or clients noticing how you treat them. Katrina shares the joys and challenges of raising young kids while trying to model a life of faith. Marc reflects on navigating the responsibilities of being a doctor, caring for patients, and working alongside colleagues who see his character up close. Bill talks about life as an in‑home salesperson and how his interactions with coworkers and clients become opportunities to live out what he believes. Together, they offer an honest look at the vulnerability, the responsibility, and the beauty of following Christ in the ordinary spaces where life actually happens.

This week on Outside the Sanctuary, hosts Katrina McDonald, Steve Entwistle, and Bill Merkh welcome Dr. Matt Miller for an in‑depth and surprisingly personal conversation about his life, his convictions, and his work with CCCRD. Dr. Miller shares the story behind his path into counseling and the experiences that shaped his approach to care. The hosts explore how his background, faith, and academic training converge in his work at CCCRD, an organization dedicated to integrating clinical insight with spiritual formation. Together, they unpack the center's mission to support individuals, families, and communities through evidence‑based counseling, research initiatives, and the development of resources that strengthen emotional and spiritual health. The discussion goes beyond professional biography. Dr. Miller reflects on the challenges facing mental and relational health today, the importance of compassionate presence, and the role CCCRD plays in equipping churches and leaders to respond wisely and well. His perspective is both grounded and hopeful, offering listeners a deeper understanding of what it means to care for people in a complex world. Whether you're familiar with CCCRD or simply curious about the intersection of counseling, faith, and human flourishing, this episode offers a thoughtful and engaging look into the work of someone committed to helping others grow.

In this episode of Outside the Sanctuary, host Bill Merkh sits down with Scott Warren, owner of Bricks and Mini Figs Cherry Hill in Maple Shade, New Jersey. Scott is a former pastor and currently serves as the preaching elder at Columbus Baptist Church. His journey weaves together ministry, entrepreneurship, and family life, and this conversation explores how those worlds intersect. As the owner of a store beloved by LEGO enthusiasts of all ages, Scott also shares how the creativity, community, and nostalgia of the LEGO world shape the atmosphere he cultivates at Bricks and Mini Figs and how it connects people in surprising ways. Bill and Scott dive into the heart of teaching and preaching, discussing how Scott's approach has evolved and what continues to shape his style today. They talk through the rhythms of Scott's daily routine, how he balances running a business with serving his church, and the intentional choices that keep him grounded. The episode also opens a window into Scott's family life, the relationships that support him, and the importance of staying connected in every season. It offers a thoughtful and engaging look at how calling and community come together. Whether you are a fan of meaningful conversations, a LEGO lover looking for your next favorite spot, or someone curious about the blend of faith and everyday life, this episode is a great place to jump in. Be sure to listen, share, and check out Bricks and Mini Figs Cherry Hill to experience the creativity and community Scott brings to everything he does.

In this laugh filled episode of Outside the Sanctuary, Pastor Vince McDonald, Steve Entwistle, and Bill Merkh dive deep into the unforgettable wedding memories that linger long after the last slice of cake is gone. They revisit the moments that were touching, chaotic, heartwarming, and wonderfully unplanned, weaving together stories that remind us why weddings are as entertaining as they are meaningful. The hosts share everything from the unexpected tumbles that happened right in the middle of the ceremony to the musical choices that probably should have never made it past the rehearsal. They recall dogs that stole the show, kids who became the spotlight with perfect comedic timing, and the legendary day when one of the hosts arrived dressed as a Star Wars character, completely committed and completely unannounced. As they move from the ceremony to the reception, the memories only get wilder. They laugh about dance floors that turned into full blown adventures, food that surprised everyone by being far better than expected, and the kind of joyful chaos that only happens when you gather a room full of people determined to celebrate. They even revisit the beach wedding where the scenery was perfect, the weather was ideal, and the flies were absolutely relentless, turning a serene moment into a comedy of swats and sighs. Through every story, the trio brings their signature warmth, humor, and camaraderie, celebrating the imperfect moments that make weddings truly unforgettable. It's an episode filled with laughter, nostalgia, and the reminder that sometimes the best memories are the ones no one planned

In this joy filled episode of Outside the Sanctuary, Bill Merkh welcomes back a familiar and much loved guest: Keeley (Samson) Smith. The last time Keeley joined the podcast, she was navigating life as a single woman, full of anticipation for what God had in store. Now returning for her second visit, she brings fresh perspective, deeper wisdom, and a few stories that spark both laughter and tears. Bill and Keeley dive into the theme of contentment, exploring what it really means to live a life grounded in peace rather than circumstance. Their conversation weaves through Scripture, personal experiences, and honest reflections about seasons when contentment felt natural and seasons when it felt impossibly out of reach. They talk about biblical examples of contentment, including Paul's bold declaration of learning to be content in all things. They explore the tension between desire and surrender and how faith reshapes the way we hold our hopes, disappointments, and expectations. They also reflect on where God fits into the modern struggle for contentment, especially in a world that constantly pushes us toward comparison, achievement, and more. The episode is full of lighthearted moments as Bill and Keeley share inside jokes, poke fun at themselves, and laugh about the unexpected ways God teaches patience. The conversation also moves into tender territory as they reflect on God's faithfulness in seasons of waiting, uncertainty, and transformation. Warm, honest, and deeply relatable, this conversation invites listeners to slow down, breathe deeply, and rediscover the beauty of contentment as a daily posture of trust rather than a destination

Outside the Sanctuary takes a fun look at the world of dumb fighting as Bill Merkh and Steve Entwistle unpack the arguments that flare up fast, go nowhere, and leave everyone wondering why they got so worked up. They share stories of their own pointless disagreements and laugh about how easily small things can turn into big standoffs. They also explore moments in Scripture where conflict pops up for familiar reasons and talk about the practical wisdom those stories offer. From pride to misunderstanding to simple stubbornness, they highlight what these ancient accounts can teach us about handling our own everyday clashes. The episode blends humor, insight, and a refreshing willingness to admit just how flawed we all are. Bill and Steve don't just talk about the fights themselves; they dig into why we get hooked by them, what they reveal about our hearts, and how we might learn to step back before things spiral. It's full of relatable moments, gentle wisdom, and the kind of storytelling that makes you feel like you're sitting with two friends who aren't afraid to laugh at themselves.

In this episode, friends and co-hosts Bill Merkh, Katrina McDonald, and Steve Entwistle look back at their teenage years and explore the guidance they wish they could offer their younger selves. Their conversation moves through themes of identity, early relationships, and the spiritual influences that shaped their understanding of faith and community. They also revisit the cultural questions that defined their youth—like whether reading Harry Potter was acceptable or if listening to secular music should have been avoided. These memories open the door to meaningful discussion about discernment, personal conviction, and how each of them learned to navigate faith in environments where those choices carried weight. Throughout the episode, they reflect on scripture and how its principles might have offered clarity and reassurance during seasons that often felt confusing or restrictive. Their shared stories highlight the tension many teens experience between wanting to belong, wanting to explore, and wanting to honor their faith. Even with the depth of the topics, the conversation is filled with plenty of laughs as the three friends recall their own uncertainties, assumptions, and the moments that now feel lighter with time and perspective. This episode encourages listeners to consider their own journeys with compassion, recognizing the steady presence of God in every stage and the growth that comes through time, friendship, and understanding.

In this episode of Outside the Sanctuary, Pastor Vince McDonald, Katrina McDonald, and Bill Merkh dive into the wild, unpredictable world of weather and the ways it has shaped their lives and ministries. From the chaos and community impact of Superstorm Sandy to the unforgettable Blizzard of 1996, each host shares personal stories of storms that left a mark. Vince reflects on his early days as a paperboy braving the elements, while the group opens up about the tough calls involved in canceling church services when safety and faith intersect. Their conversation then turns to Scripture as they explore memorable weather events in the Bible, leading Bill to pose a playful but thought‑provoking question: What is their Mount Rushmore of biblical weather moments? It's a warm, thoughtful, and insightful discussion about storms, stories, and the ways weather shapes both our daily lives and our spiritual journeys. Stay tuned, listen in, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode of Outside the Sanctuary.

Well, we did it! It's our one year anniversary! In this episode of Outside the Sanctuary, Steve Entwistle, Pastor Vince McDonald, Katrina McDonald, and Bill Merkh come together for a lively and heartfelt exploration of motivation. Each host brings a distinct voice to the table, creating a conversation that feels both grounded and energizing. Steve offers his trademark curiosity and thoughtful questioning, drawing out deeper layers of the topic and inviting the group to reflect on what truly keeps people moving. Pastor Vince brings a pastoral lens, connecting motivation to faith, purpose, and the spiritual rhythms that sustain us when life becomes demanding. Katrina adds a warm, practical perspective shaped by real-life experience, speaking to the everyday challenges of staying motivated while juggling responsibilities, relationships, and personal growth. Bill brings a playful spark to the discussion, mixing humor with sharp, thought‑provoking questions that keep everyone on their toes and open up unexpected angles on what drives us. Together, they create a conversation that blends personal stories, spiritual insight, laughter, and honest reflection. Whether you're chasing a new goal, trying to regain your spark, or simply looking for a fresh dose of encouragement, this episode offers a rich mix of wisdom and inspiration that meets you right where you are.

In this inspiring episode of Outside the Sanctuary, hosts Bill Merkh and Pastor Greg Ginion welcome a very special guest, Greg's daughter Leah Ginion. Leah opens up about her remarkable journey, guiding listeners from her early years in New Jersey, through her transformative season in Tennessee, and ultimately to her life‑changing experiences in Oregon. Along the way, Leah shares how she once believed God was leading her down a particular path, only to discover that when she surrendered her plans and placed everything in His hands, He opened unexpected and extraordinary doors. Her story becomes a powerful reminder of what can happen when faith outweighs fear and trust replaces certainty. With honesty, warmth, and a deep sense of purpose, Leah reflects on the moments that shaped her faith, strengthened her resilience, and ignited her passion for seeing people come to know Christ. Her journey is one of movement, both across states and within the heart, as she follows God's leading beyond her own expectations. This episode offers an inspiring look at a young woman's walk with God, her desire to reach others, and the beautiful ways God works outside the walls of the sanctuary.

This week, Bill Merkh and Marc McCleary welcome a guest who has had a profound impact on countless families at The King's Christian School: principal Craig Beatty. For Bill, this conversation reaches back decades. He's known Craig since childhood, when Craig and Bill's sister shared a classroom. For Marc, the connection is just as personal. All four of his children have gone through TKCS, and three of them are still there today while the oldest, John, has moved on to college. Together, the three explore the heart behind Christian education and the thoughtful, sometimes difficult decisions parents make when choosing private school. They dive into Craig's daily routines as principal, the energy it takes to keep the school running, and the challenges he navigates along the way. Craig shares how he builds meaningful relationships with students, teachers, and parents, and why those connections shape the culture of the school. He also opens up about his own story—from his formative years in Christian school, to his time at Cedarville University, to teaching in Portugal, and ultimately stepping into leadership at TKCS. It's a warm, insightful, and encouraging conversation that highlights calling, community, and the lasting impact of a Christ-centered education. Tune in and step Outside the Sanctuary for an episode that feels both personal and deeply inspiring.

In this thought provoking episode of Outside the Sanctuary, hosts Bill Merkh and Steve Entwistle invite listeners into the kind of conversations they have all the time when the microphones are off. Now those same honest, unfiltered discussions are happening on air, and they are diving straight into a question many people wonder about but rarely voice: Is my favorite celebrity actually a Christian? From movie stars to musicians to superstar athletes, Bill and Steve explore why so many public figures claim Christianity, attend megachurches, or speak openly about faith, yet may not show the signs of a genuine relationship with God. They unpack the difference between wearing the Christian label and living a Christ centered life, and they take a close look at how fame, public image, and church culture can blur the lines between appearance and authenticity. With biblical insight, real world examples, and the natural chemistry that comes from years of private conversations, Bill and Steve offer clarity and depth while keeping things relatable and engaging. They challenge listeners to look beyond celebrity status and consider what true discipleship really means. Whether you are curious, skeptical, or simply trying to navigate the noise of modern Christian culture, this episode delivers a refreshing and honest perspective. Join Bill and Steve as they step outside the sanctuary and into a conversation that just might change the way you see faith in the public eye.

Outside the Sanctuary brings hosts Bill Merkh, Katrina McDonald, and Marc McCleary together for a heartfelt, joy filled look back at Immanuel Baptist Church in 2025. Right from the start, they reflect on how Immanuel truly is a special place, a church family marked by love, service, and a deep sense of community. They revisit the excitement of children's ministry, highlighting all the ways Keeley Smith poured into the kids this year, from PJs and Pancakes to the Egg Hunt to Storytime and so much more. They also celebrate the True North VBS, which came to life thanks to an incredible number of volunteers and church members who showed up, served, and made it a huge success. They reflect on Immanuel's 100 year celebration, complete with a picnic that brought generations together to laugh, worship, and remember God's faithfulness. Marc shares stories from the many Sunday school communities, his own class, the mixed men's group, and the women's class faithfully led by Lisa, Christine, and Erika. They highlight the New Believers class with Frank and Jodi Punzi, a place where new faith took root and lifelong relationships began. The Praise Team gets a special spotlight too, including Nate, Ethan, Laura, Cindy, Dan, Kathryn, Kelsey, Mike, and several new singers who stepped up this year to help lead the church in worship with passion and humility. They talk about the Young Married group with Marshall and Theresa and the Abide youth group with Dylan, Max, Carleigh, and Kathryn, celebrating the growth, energy, and discipleship happening at every age and stage. Bill, Katrina, and Marc also take time to honor Pastors Vince and Greg, whose leadership, teaching, and steady presence continue to shape the heart of Immanuel. They highlight Kathleen Thompson, whose dedicated work and incredible annual report always add so much to the life and clarity of the church. In a joyful personal moment, they celebrate that Bill's son Ethan, the podcast producer, married Kate this year, a beautiful milestone for the Merkh family and a sweet reminder of how intertwined church and family life can be. In a tender moment, they remember those from the Immanuel family who went home to heaven in 2025, honoring their legacy and the hope that anchors the church. And of course, they talk about the podcast itself, why it exists, who it is for, and how it has become a place to celebrate the life of the church outside the sanctuary. They also share so much more, with stories, laughter, and reflections that paint a full picture of a year lived together in faith. If you are part of Immanuel, love Immanuel, or simply want to hear the heartbeat of a church family living out its faith, this is the episode to listen to. Tune in, share it with a friend, and be reminded of how God is moving in our community. And finally, just to keep everyone honest, Holly McCleary and Christine Neitzel are officially authorized to correct anything we forgot.

Step outside the walls and into the heart of global generosity on this episode of Outside the Sanctuary with hosts Marc McCleary, Katrina McDonald and Bill Merkh. This week, they sit down with the energetic and inspiring Dori Straub, one of New Jersey's key leaders for Operation Christmas Child, part of Samaritan's Purse, the worldwide ministry that delivers joy‑filled shoebox gifts to children in more than 118 countries. Dori brings the fun, the passion, and the purpose as she shares how these simple shoeboxes do far more than deliver toys. They open doors. They spark hope. And most importantly, they help children around the world learn about the love of Jesus in a personal and life‑changing way. Whether you've packed a shoebox before or you're just curious about how a small gift can make a global impact, this episode will leave you smiling, inspired, and maybe even ready to grab a shoebox of your own. Tune in, laugh along, and get ready to see how big things happen outside the sanctuary.

This week, Pastor Vince McDonald and Bill Merkh welcome guest Jody Adams — a former New Jersey cranberry farmer turned missionary in South Africa. Together with his wife Kathy, Jody founded Acts 26 Missions, a ministry devoted to bringing hope and care to children in South Africa. You'll laugh, you'll reflect, and you'll be inspired as Jody shares his journey from the cranberry bogs of New Jersey to the mission fields of Africa. The conversation blends lighthearted humor with powerful, heartfelt stories of faith, calling, and the impact of serving others. Whether you're looking for encouragement, a good laugh, or a reminder of how ordinary people can do extraordinary things, this episode delivers it all.

Step outside the sanctuary and into real-life conversations with Pastor Vincent McDonald, Katrina McDonald, and Bill Merkh. Outside the Sanctuary is a Christian podcast where faith, wisdom, and laughter come together to tackle everyday challenges. In this episode, the hosts explore the power of criticism—both the encouraging words that inspire us and the tough feedback that tests us. With biblical insight, practical guidance, and a healthy dose of humor, they show how Christians can respond to criticism in ways that build character, strengthen relationships, and glorify God. Expect thoughtful discussion, relatable stories, and moments of levity that remind us that even serious topics can be approached with joy.

In this lively episode of Outside the Sanctuary, Bill Merkh and Marc McCleary welcome guest Mark Johnson for a conversation filled with stories, history, and laughter. Marc and Bill share highlights from their unforgettable ten-day journey through Israel—walking the streets of Jerusalem, floating in the Dead Sea, and visiting Bethlehem in Palestine. Mark brings his own unique perspective, recalling his semester abroad in Israel and an adventurous side trip to Egypt that led to a photo he probably shouldn't have taken. Together, the three swap memories of faith, culture, and travel, blending humor with heartfelt reflection. It's an episode packed with fun, friendship, and the kind of stories that stay with you long after the journey ends.

This episode of Outside the Sanctuary podcast is brimming with laughter and joy as Pastor Vince, Katrina McDonald, and Bill Merkh gather to swap stories about their favorite holiday traditions. This episode is a lively mix of playful Halloween memories, hilarious Thanksgiving gatherings, and heartwarming Christmas celebrations. Their conversation is full of chuckles, good-natured teasing, and the kind of jovial spirit that makes you feel like you're right there at the table with them. Amid the fun, they reflect on how God's presence shines through each season—whether in the gratitude of Thanksgiving prayers, the wonder of Christmas worship, or even the joy of family during Halloween festivities. It's a spirited, faith-filled time that blends humor with heartfelt reflection, reminding us that God is in the middle of all our laughter, traditions, and celebrations.

Step outside the ordinary with hosts Marc McCleary, Katrina McDonald, and Bill Merkh as they welcome Lauren Correa, founder of the online magazine Lauren. This episode dives into the vibrant mix of faith, mental health, fashion, and food, showing how spirituality and creativity collide in everyday life. Lauren shares the story behind her magazine and how it became a space for honest conversations about Christianity and wellness, while also serving up style inspiration and recipes. Bill brings his trademark humor, reflecting on his blogging days with outrageous stories that keep the laughs coming. With Marc and Katrina steering the dialogue, the result is a lively, heartfelt, and entertaining conversation that feels fresh, real, and impossible to pause. If you're looking for a podcast that blends faith with culture, laughter with insight, and inspiration with fun, this episode is your perfect listen. Hit play and join the conversation—because life happens Outside the Sanctuary.

In this heartfelt episode of The Outside the Sanctuary podcast, hosts Bill Merkh and Katrina McDonald sit down with two inspiring Immanuel Baptist Church Women's Sunday School leaders—Lisa Merkh (Bill's wife) and Christine Neitzel—for an intimate conversation about the spiritual and practical sides of teaching. Together, they explore how Lisa and Christine prepare each week to lead their classe with purpose and clarity. Thier lesson planning and staying grounded in Scripture. They also discuss their personal journeys of faith and what they believe God is calling them toward Whether you're a seasoned teacher or simply curious about the behind-the-scenes of Sunday School ministry, this episode offers encouragement, wisdom, and a glimpse into the hearts of women faithfully serving their church community. Tune in and be inspired by the passion and dedication that fuels their calling—both inside and outside the sanctuary.

Join Bill Merkh, Steve Entwistle, Katrina McDonald, and Pastor Vince McDonald for a wild ride through the unexpected places we hear God's voice—in secular movies, mainstream music, and the cultural noise around us. In what Bill affectionately dubs a "bottle episode," the crew dives into a freewheeling, laughter-filled conversation that's part theology, part pop culture, and all heart. Expect chaos, conviction, and a whole lot of joy as they unpack how the Spirit speaks through unlikely sources. Whether it's a blockbuster film or a chart-topping hit, this episode reminds us that God's truth isn't confined to church walls—it echoes everywhere. No script. No filter. Just friends, faith, and fun.

In this heartfelt and inspiring episode of Outside the Sanctuary, hosts Bill Merkh, Katrina McDonald, and Pastor Vince McDonald sit down with Dylan Suplee, the passionate leader of the church's youth group, Abide. Dylan opens up about his personal journey—sharing the challenges and triumphs that shaped his faith and leadership. From pivotal moments in his past to the vision he carries for the future of Abide, Dylan offers a candid look at what it means to guide young hearts in today's world. Whether you're part of the congregation or simply curious about youth ministry, this conversation will leave you encouraged, reflective, and ready to engage more deeply with your own story.

In this episode of Outside the Sanctuary, hosts Bill Merkh, Katrina McDonald, and Pastor Vince McDonald dive deep into the intersection of faith and finances. Through candid conversation and biblical reflection, they explore the concept of stewardship—not just as a church buzzword, but as a lifestyle rooted in Scripture. From practical budgeting tips to thoughtful family planning, the trio unpacks how financial decisions can reflect spiritual values and honor God's provision. Whether you're navigating personal finances or seeking a more intentional approach to planning for your family's future, this episode offers wisdom, encouragement, and a fresh perspective on aligning your resources with your faith.

In this compelling episode, hosts Bill Merkh and Pastor Vince McDonald sit down with author Brandon Simpkins to unpack his provocative new book, Bound In Lies: The Biblical Case Against Slavery. Together, they explore the historical, theological, and cultural dimensions of slavery as portrayed in Scripture—challenging long-held assumptions and confronting misinterpretations that have echoed through centuries. Brandon shares the inspiration behind his book and walks listeners through key biblical texts that have been used to justify slavery, offering a fresh, rigorous analysis that reveals a radically different narrative. The conversation dives deep into the moral and spiritual implications of bondage, freedom, and justice in the biblical context, and what it means for believers today. Whether you're a scholar, a seeker, or someone wrestling with tough questions about faith and history, this episode invites you to rethink what the Bible really says about slavery—and why it matters now more than ever.

Is the end near? The Lord will return, but no one knows the time or day. Yet, nowadays, people keep telling us they know when He is coming back. This episode Pastor Vincent McDonald and Bill Merkh discuss the end of days. Listen now before the rapture.

This week Pastor Vince McDonald, Katrina McDonald and Bill Merkh have a conversation with Lynda Lotierzo from being on the Board of Education in Maple Shade to her battle with breast cancer. In this deeply moving episode of Outside the Sanctuary, we hear her powerful testimony of faith, resilience, and hope in the face of cancer. Lynda opens up about her diagnosis, the emotional and spiritual battles she faced, and how her relationship with God sustained her through the darkest moments. With compassion and honesty, the conversation explores the role of church, prayer, and personal strength in navigating serious illness. Whether you're walking through your own valley or supporting someone who is, this episode offers encouragement, wisdom, and a reminder that even outside the sanctuary, God's presence is unwavering. Tune in for a story that will inspire your heart and strengthen your faith.

In this heartfelt and thought-provoking podcast, the panel explores the church's evolving role in supporting individuals navigating life after divorce. This episode is hosted by Dr. Marc McCleary, Katrina McDonald, Lisa Merkh, and Bill Merkh. The show offers a compassionate yet candid look at how faith communities can better serve those healing from marital breakdown. Bill Merkh shares his personal journey through divorce. This episode dives deep into the emotional complexities of ending a marriage, highlighting how vulnerability, courage, and his faith in God are essential to healing and growth.

In the latest episode Bill Merkh, Katrina McDonald and Steve Entwistle discuss the power of prayer. What does prayer look like? What does the Bible say about prayer? Who can speak with God? During this heartfelt episode, the three hosts—each with unique backgrounds and spiritual journeys—gather to explore the transformative power of prayer. Their conversation weaves together personal testimonies, biblical wisdom, and honest reflections on how prayer has shaped their lives. Listen and enjoy

Do you know what apologetics means? What does your faith look like? In this episode Bill Merkh has the conversation with Pastor Vincent McDonald, Katrina McDonald and guest, Teddy Chandler on the topic of christian apologetics. They examine why they believe what they believe and how they know the truth. Teddy talks about the class he is teaching at Immanuel Baptist Church on Apologetics Please join them and listen.

Bill Merkh sits down with Pastor Vince McDonald and Katrina McDonald for an insightful conversation about the challenges of maintaining a healthy work-life balance in today's fast-paced world. As our schedules become increasingly packed, finding time for rest, family, and spiritual growth can feel overwhelming. In this discussion, they explore practical ways to prioritize the church in a busy lifestyle, and why staying connected to a faith driven community matters more than ever.

In this episode, Bill Merkh is joined by Pastor Vince McDonald and Katrina McDonald for a powerful conversation with local missionary Pascal Tuley from the Fellowship of Christian Athletes in Burlington, NJ. Together, they dive into Pascal's mission of reaching young athletes and coaches across New Jersey with the love of Christ. As part of a donor funded ministry, Pascal shares how the FCA equips the sports world with biblical teaching, personal mentorship, and the Word of God—one athlete at a time. Follow Pascal on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/fcaburlington/

Bill Merkh is joined by Pastor Vince and Greta McDonald's kids. Vince McDonald Jr., Deanna Kranefeld, and Natalie Ostrander. They discuss growing up in a pastor's home and their journeys in life. Each one shares a different and unique perspective. Listen to this fun and entertaining episode to hear thier stories.

Bill Merkh sits down with Pastor Vince McDonald and Lisa Merkh for a thought provoking conversation about the truth behind ghosts and the paranormal. Are spirits and supernatural creatures real? What does the Bible actually say about loved ones who have passed? Can they return as ghosts? And is working as a medium considered sinful? Tune in as they explore these mysterious topics from a biblical perspective.

Bill Merkh sits down with Pastor Vince McDonald to discuss the topic of protesting. In this conversation, they explore the nature of protest. From peaceful demonstrations and boycotts to more extreme actions like riots and violence. What does the Bible say about standing up for a cause? Are there godly ways to express disagreement, and where should we draw the line?

Bill Merkh sits down with Pastor Vince McDonald, Katrina McDonald, and Dr. Marc McCleary to explore the topic of end of life care. When a person is given a prognosis of six months or less to live, families are often faced with the decision of whether to place their loved one in hospice care to help them live out their final days in comfort. Hospice care is sometimes misunderstood or viewed as a sign of neglect, with the responsibility of caregiving handed over to nurses and medical staff. This raises important questions: Do terminally ill individuals actually prefer the support and comfort that hospice care provides? Or is choosing hospice merely a way for families to avoid the emotional and physical burden of caregiving?

Bill Merkh, Pastor Vince McDonald, Katrina McDonald sit down with a special guest, Christine Neitzel, to explore how everyday people can make a lasting impact in the Christian community. Christine, a dedicated member of Immanuel Baptist Church for over 20 years, continues to serve faithfully in many behind the scenes roles. Though she may not be in the spotlight, her influence reaches far outside the walls of the sanctuary, touching lives and embodying what it truly means to belong.

Bill Merkh sits down with Steve Entwistle and Dr. Marc McCleary for an honest conversation about temptation. The Bible shows us that temptation itself isn't sin—it's giving in that causes harm. Even Jesus was tempted by Satan, but He overcame it by standing on Scripture and living out the fruits of the Spirit. This episode reminds us that while temptation is part of being human, we're never alone in the fight—God gives us the strength to resist and follow his perfect example.

Bill Merkh and Katrina McDonald interview Katrina's sister-in-law, Natalie Ostrander, to discuss how maintaining a positive perspective can transform your day. Everyone faces difficult moments, and it's easy to fall into negative thinking. But with God's help, there is always a way forward. He provides the perfect example of how to remain grateful, even in challenging times.

False prophets are all around us, and their influence can be subtle but dangerous. In this eye-opening episode, Bill Merkh is joined by Steve Entwistle and Dr. Marc McCleary to uncover how to spot a false prophet and why it's so easy to be led astray by deceptive teachings. If we're not vigilant, we risk embracing doctrines the Bible warns us against. Follow us

Pastor Greg Ginion and Bill Merkh explore the aspects of forgiveness. They look at God's forgiveness and how we are directed to forgive. We need to forgive others and ourselves as well. Please like and follow us! Share it with everyone!

Bill Merkh, along with co-hosts Steve Entwistle and Katrina McDonald, interviews Bill's wife, Lisa Merkh, about her journey to finding faith later in life. She shares how she transformed her former lifestyle to align with her newfound beliefs. Today, Lisa actively serves on the Immanuel Baptist Church AV team and helps lead the women's Bible study group.

Bill Merkh and Pastor Greg Ginion reflect on Bill's early days as a stand-up comedian and blogger. They also discuss the plays performed by church members and how incorporating entertainment into church life helped strengthen relationships within the church body. In fact, this very podcast serves as another form of connection and entertainment.

Bill Merkh and Katrina McDonald interview Jess Johnson about her role as a previous child life specialist. In this position, she supports children and their families through traumatic medical experiences in, helping them feel safe and aiding in their emotional recovery throughout their stay in the hospital. It's an essential yet often overlooked job that can be emotionally taxing.