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Perdition City Station
by Julie
Jarad and Julie travel through the theology of the afterlife by train, bus, auto, ferry, and on foot. First stop Perdition City Station, last stop? Who knows?They will be joined by cats, an occasional guest, ghosts, and a dead guy named Morty who came to hang out one Halloween and never left.Come for the laughs, stay for the suffering.This podcast contains some adult language and situations.
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Vampires: Hungry, Hungry Hellions
Send us Fan MailJulie and Jarad discuss how vampires represent the voracious nature of Hell, how vampires became erotic figures, and how rampant, unregulated capitalism may be changing the way we think about these undead creatures.Sources:A History of the Vampire in Popular Culture: Love at First BiteSupport the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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Trump, Blasphemy and What Would (Sixteen-year-old) Julie Think?
Send us Fan MailWarning ahead listeners! Julie lost her research glasses and went on a rant instead of writing a script. Listen as Julie asks her sixteen-year-old evangelical self to weigh in on whether picturing yourself as Jesus would have been theologically acceptable in her church. From there our hosts go off on a right old rant about politics in general. Content warning: Tangential discussion of abortion (which can be upsetting for some current or former evangelicals) Sources: Trump Supporters Are Now Asking If He's the AntichristTrump Post of Himself as Jesus Includes Strange Horned Creature Not in OriginalTrump’s territorial ambition: new imperialism or a case of the emperor’s new clothes?Why Trump's AI Image Is Reviving Old Antichrist Claims in New WaysSupport the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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Interview With Author Naomi Ulsted: Defying Hell by Finding Hope
Send us Fan MailThis week, Julie and Jarad talk to writer Naomi Ulsted about her upcoming memoir, her book, The Apology Box, and how the fires of Hell from her evangelical upbringing influenced her work. Our conversation runs the gamut from Hell on Earth to finding a little hope along the way. Naomi writes about family connections, church connections, lasting damage and the healing power of the environment.Naomi Ulsted writes fiction and non-fiction. She’s the author of the YA novel The Apology Box (2021), which was runner-up in the Indies Today contest and a finalist in the Next Generation Indies Book Award contest. Her memoir, A Bouquet of Weeds: Growing Up Wild in the Pacific Northwest, is forthcoming from High Frequency Press. She’s been published in The Nomad, Rumpus, and The New Guard, among others. She lives in North Bend, Oregon. Naomi's BlogSacred Chickens' Review of The Apology BoxPurchase The Apology BoxGlamor Shots, by Naomi UlstedSupport the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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Oscar Season Episode: Jarad and Julie Discuss Sinners
Send us Fan MailOn this episode Jarad and Julie discuss the movie Sinners (with spoilers) and some of the rumination they had afterwards about racism and religion. If you didn't like this movie, you won't like this episode, because our hosts were all in. If you haven't seen this movie, it's a beautiful rendering of American mythology and folk horror and we highly recommend it. It's genre film with depth and broad appeal, a well told story with layers of history and American experience.Support the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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Believe Now, (The Rest of Us) Pay Later: How Evangelicals Form Belief Systems
Send us Fan MailIn this episode, Julie and Jarad try to understand how what we believe about belief affects theology and society at large. How does a belief system that rejects doubt lead to authoritarianism? Should Jarad get a prophet robe to go with his flowing hair? Join us for the discussion.Sources for this week's discussion—we used these sources more for thinking than discussion this week, but these are all good reads:New Research Reveals the Limits of Christian Evangelicalism in American Society - Arizona Christian UniversityEscaping the Evangelical Cult - Keith Giles, PatheosCults as Power Structures - excerpted from Take Back Your Life: Recovering from Cults and Abusive Relationships by Janja Lalich and Madeleine Tobias (Bay Tree Publishing). It is posted at Apologetics Index by permission.Support the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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Conversation With Robert Roper: Author of Shut Up and Drink, Goblin Girl
Send us Fan MailJulie and Jarad discuss an upcoming book with the author, Robert Roper, author of Shut Up and Drink, Goblin Girl, due out in 2027.We discuss demons, tropes of Hell, how monsters attract outsiders, and how we deal with darkness when we write. Along the way we discuss Hitchhikers Guide, WWI, medieval folklore, names for Polka Bands and occasions when there may be no time for pants. So don't miss this episode!Support the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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The Necessary Devil: When the Appearance of Goodness Makes You Bad
Send us Fan MailAfter a tough week in this dystopian hellscape, Julie and Jarad discuss why everyone has to meet the devil—and why this is probably a good thing. They also discuss how chasing the appearance of goodness can lead to doing some really bad things. (And somehow they manage to drag Nathaniel Hawthorne into the conversation. Poor Nathaniel Hawthorne. He didn't ask for this.) This episode is a little shorter than normal, but they will back to their typical garrulousness and obstreperousity next week.Sources:Young Goodman BrownEthics and Hypocrisy and Young Goodman BrownA Summary and Analysis of Hawthorne's Young Goodman BrownThe Master and MargaritaHelp Free Adrian Guarneros-Paz from ICEUPDATE: Adrian is at home but will still require legal help even though he is through the first phase of his legal fight. Support the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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Medieval Witch Trials: A Slow Growing Satanic Panic (and a Sprinkling of Medieval Incels)
Send us Fan MailThis week Jarad contemplates his "Hell on Earth" and why the universe seems to dislike his pants. Our cohosts discuss how Satan got so involved in magic in the Middle Ages and how that led to attitudes and misconceptions that haunt us to this day. They also discuss how sometimes people invoke Satan to make the bar for being "good" really, really, really low. Come for the camaraderie as we try to get through this thing called Hell. Stay for the jokes about medieval art and incels.This episode contains an overview of witch trials with some (though not terribly detailed) discussions of torture. Sources:Witchcraft in the Middle Ages, Medieval HistoryThe Magicians of Solomon, Bartered HistorySuffer Not a Witch to Live, Text and CanonMagic, the Christian Church, and the Illusion of Control, The Medieval MonkMalleus MaleficarumThe Beginnings of the Witch Persecutions, Sacred TextsThe Phallus Tree PhenomenonSupport the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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News From Hell: 2025
Send us Fan MailJulie and Jarad discuss some news stories about Hell, say a prayer for 2026 (to be addressed to the god of your choice, or none at all), and discuss their own brushes with the infernal realms this year.Here are the stories we discussed: Gates of Hell Update - Was the Last Train Out of Hell Prophetic?If Kirk Cameron Isn't Safe, How Can You Be? by Joe BoydHow Christian Nationalism Uses the Fear of Hell to Control People, by Tim WhittakerThe Master and Margarita, by Mikhail BulgakovSupport the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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The Yule Lord: War on Christmas
Send us Fan MailIn this episode, Julie and Jarad discuss Brom's book, The Yule Lord, where Krampus goes head to head with Santa with some weird results. Along the way, we are annoyed by cats and come up with pithy slogans for possible Christmas merch way too late in the season.Join us and find out what happens when Santa and Krampus square off. (There will be spoilers ahead...so read the book first if that bothers you. If, like Julie, you feel that spoilers are a sort of super power ability to see into the future, plow ahead.)Sources: The Yule Lord, by BromSupport the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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Krampus in Our Minds and in Our Hearts
Send us Fan MailThis week Julie and Jarad explore the dark side of Christmas discovering that Christmas has a shadow that won't be denied. And maybe, we need a little Krampus after all. So join us to talk about Santa's furry helper with horns, but behave...because Krampus is out here getting weird with the birch sticks if you're naughty.We have lots of sources this time, so here goes:The Devil in Design: The Krampus Postcards/ written and designed by Monte BeauchampBlab!The Origin of Krampus, Smithsonian MagazineGerman Girl in America: BelsnickelGerman Girl in America: Knecht RuprechtBritannica: SantaWorld Mythos: KrampusBritannica: Yule FestivalWinter Solstice, History.comKrampus: Origins and Development of a Winter Devil, Folklife TodayWe also briefly referenced this Tia Levings Interview:Tia Levings: An Insider's Account of Pete Hegseth and Doug Wilson's Cruel Religious Movement, on Culture, Faith, and Politics with Pat KahnkeSupport the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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How C.S. Lewis Helped Me Leave the Church
Send us Fan MailIt's another field trip! Pack a water bottle and a first-aid kit.Take the Bus from Hell to Heaven with our brave cohosts. In this episode, Julie discusses how The Great Divorce, started her on a path out of the church. (Probably not the author's intent, but this podcast is rife with unintended consequences, as evidenced by the lives of the hosts.)Along the way, Julie and Jarad rescue Crowley, discuss the importance being able to consider other viewpoints, and explore whether God is more like your granddad or a big, dark void. They also manage to get off at a few wrong bus stops on the way back.Sources: The Great Divorce, by C.S. LewisSupport the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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Ghosts in the System; How the Supernatural Haunts Religion
Send us Fan MailJulie and Jarad discuss the ways that supernatural stories can challenge the religious systems we're born with and force us to consider whether we can actually know everything about something so much bigger than we are. Come for the ghost stories, stay to see what it's like to be in Julie's head. Find out whether or not Jarad managed to summon a demon when he was nine. (Spoiler: the jury may still be out.)Support the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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PCS Grand Finale: How Much Infernal Spaghetti Will Stick to the Wall?
Send us Fan MailJulie and Jarad discuss their findings from their first season, whether or not Crowley is an entity from the dark lord, and then ask themselves how they can change Hell. (Jarad is leaning towards hiring a new decorator.)Come wrap up season one with us. You can use this episode to fondly remember your own favorite episode, compose a letter of stern disagreement, or even use it as a starting point for choosing episodes if this is your first time listening.You can contact us at [email protected] or get in touch at Perdition City Station Instagram.Season 2 starts next week!Support the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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The Witch of Briar Hollow: Tropes on a Knife's Edge
Send us Fan MailIn this episode, Jarad and I discuss The Witch of Briar Hollow, by Wes Wickley. Among our many tangents, we talk about what it means to be evil and whether it's even possible to write a horror story that fully embraces the traditional morality of folklore. The tropes and motifs that represented good and evil seem to be in flux right now and writers need to walk a fine balance. Sources:The Witch of Briar HollowSupport the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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Hell in Horror Movies: Slasher Movies and the Path to Hell
Send us Fan MailWe have our first guest, horror lover and expert Josh Brandon and we ask the question: Why in the world don't evangelicals LOVE horror films? Maybe they should. After Josh gives us a brief intro into Hell in Horror films, we get into how some horror films have carried on Puritan morality traditions, how they treat women, and whether we're going to Hell for secretly (or not so secretly) being pleased when some characters die. We also discuss the future of horror. Where do you think horror movies and tropes are headed? Let us know.Sources: How religion and horror movies come together to form 'a very powerful experience.'The Complete History of Horror MoviesSlasher Lore Is Way Deeper Than You ThinkHollow Support the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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The Netherworld According to Julie
Send us Fan MailIn this episode, Julie and Jarad discuss how the brain creates things that may have very little to do with this reality. How do we take the nuances of words and ideas, and our own histories to create whole new worlds? This episode is a good one for writers who are thinking of creating their own worlds.If you come up with some ideas about the Netherworld, write in and let us know.Sources:The Penguin Book of Hell, edited by Scott G. BruceSupport the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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How Hell Was Built: A Snowball of Stories Rolling Downhill to Crush Our Dreams
Send us Fan MailJulie braves her memories of the field trip to Tartarus to ask the question, how did Hell, as we know it, come to be? Like Rome, it wasn't built in a day. Like the snowball in Scooby Doo's That's Snow Ghost, it picked up a lot of stuff as it rolled downhill, gathering speed, preparing to wreck our mental health and terrify us into heaven.So join Julie and Jarad as they discuss how the Greek and Hebrew conceptions of Hell came together to form a hotbed of potential stories that humans can add onto almost infinitely. As they've previously discovered on this journey through Hell, this topic isn't just rampant speculation about the afterlife. Discussions of Hell have a lot to teach us about the way we tell stories individually and collectively. As always, there are a few tangents involving cats, and this week...a chicken named Mrs. McCarthy.Source: Heaven and Hell: A History of the AfterlifeThe New International Version of the BibleScooby Doo, That's Snow GhostSupport the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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The Haunting of Hill House and The Haunting on the Hill: Never Trust Something That Doesn't Dream
Send us Fan MailThis week, Julie and Jarad discuss the Haunting of Hill House and the authorized sequel, The Haunting on the Hill. Are there places where the soul can be trapped by absolute reality? Unable to leave or dream? Can stories crack open the hellish holes we can fall into? In this episode there are tangents and ghost stories and rampant speculation. Join us to discuss just what the heck is going on with the demented entity that is Hill House, and also find out whether late night accordion concerts can reset the energy in your own dwelling.Our sources are :The Haunting of Hill House by Shirley Jackson The Haunting on the Hill, by Elizabeth HandAnd here's a link to a song we discuss at the end of the episode:Hares on the Mountain, by Shirley Collins and Davy GrahamSupport the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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Hella Anxious About the Future
Send us Fan MailIn this episode, Julie and Jarad discuss whether the church's obsession with Heaven and Hell has influenced our modern American tendency to live in the future to the detriment of the present (and history)—or whether it's the other way around. Or both. This episode is an exploration of the topic that we've just begun considering. If you have any thoughts, please let us know at [email protected]. Put Perdition City Station in the subject line.Here are this week's sources and or/references:Heaven and Hell: A History of the Afterlife, by Bart D. EhrmanThe Harris Poll: Americans and Billionaires Survey44 Percent of Americans Think They Can Achieve Billionaire StatusEveryone Loves The Apocalypse, But Why?Futurology: How a Group of Visionaries Looked Beyond the Possible a Century Ago and Predicted Today's WorldEvangelical Support-Israel Fueled Apocalyptic HopesMonkey Trial Fundamentalism and Social GospelDispensationalism's Refusal of the Social Gospel and the effect of Its Refusal on the Urgency of EvangelizationSupport the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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Slewfoot: Getting the Devil You Choose
Send us Fan MailThis week Julie and Jarad discuss Slewfoot by Brom. You know how much we talk about giving power to Hell and reserving none for Heaven? This book is a great example of the ramifications of that theology (among many other things.) Give it a read then give this episode a listen.We also go on many tangents, like the difference between Southern and New England horror. So join us and let us know what you think about the book and the themes, our tangents, or Jarad's strategy for fixing his broken phone.Sources for this episode:Slewfoot, by BromSupport the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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What Do Witches Have to Do With It? Everything You Need to Know About Jarad
Send us Fan MailIn this episode, Jarad tells us about his religious beliefs so we can see where he's coming from during our conversations. We discuss witchcraft, paganism, folklore, and how Jarad ended up in Maine. Check out the episode for Jarad's recommendations on books to read if you're interested in the topic.Support the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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Let's Talk About Sin!
Send us Fan MailIn this episode Julie and Jarad consider how people get assigned to go to Hell in the first place. They ask themselves a lot of questions. How is sin different from a moral wrong? How can Biblical interpretations of sin be dangerous? What do Christians consider sin? Why? Do all sins rate a trip to Hell? We also explore a few subplots such as: How can you break a dictionary of philosophy and religion? How long will it be before Jarad has Viking hair or is perhaps capable of housing birds like the mythical green man? By the end of the episode we start thinking through our own ideas of what actions can be considered moral wrongs and why. Support the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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The House of Usher FINALLY Collapses!
Send us Fan MailJarad and Julie finally come to the end of their ruminations on the Fall of the House of Usher...and it's finally time for Jarad's favorite death! They discuss the role of fate and death and the consequences our actions carry. "And darkness and decay and the red death held illimitable dominion over all."This weeks sources are the Netflix series, The Fall of the House of Usher, and The Complete Stories and Poems of Edgar Allan Poe.Support the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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The Long Awaited Penultimate Episode of The Fall of the House of Usher!
Send us Fan MailOk. The House of Usher hasn't quite fallen because Jarad and I were somewhat more loquacious than usual. But it's getting real shaky. It will be one hundred percent collapsed by next time. We promise! In this episode two more Usher children meet their gruesome ends and Jarad celebrates, although his favorite death must be once again postponed. Sources in this week's episode are the Netflix series, The Fall of the House of Usher and The Complete Stories and Poems of Edgar Allan Poe.Support the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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Book Launch: Last Train Out of Hell Interrogation...Errr...Interview
Send us Fan MailJulie's debut novel, The Last Train Out of Hell, launches tomorrow and Jarad kindly (or is it a ruse?) offered to interview her about the book. He's read the ARC and he's ready to ask the tough questions, like what kind of snacks are available on the train and whether there's wifi. Julie should have known she was in for a rough time when the questions showed up in her inbox labeled Interrogation instead of Interview.Come for the spoiler free discussion and get ready to fall in love with Hagatha, Dennis, Brian, Gadreel, and the rest of the gang. The book will be available to purchase from your favorite bookstore on the 26th!Support the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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Fall of the House of Usher 2: You Can't Escape the Fates—Or Annoying Cats
Send us Fan MailIn this episode, Jarad is depressed by his lot in the late stage capitalistic hellscape we all live in, so Julie tries to cheer him up with tales of gruesome death and inescapable fate. The hosts discuss how well the Netflix series, The Fall of the House of Usher, handles Poe's themes, and whether one can escape fate. We also learn why having cats and air mattresses at the same time is not especially ideal.Come for the scintillating discussion of cruel destiny; stay for Jarad's rumination on the glories of his hair.This series is based on The Fall of the House of Usher by Netflix and contains spoilers.Support the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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Jarad Reads The Raven
Send us Fan MailJulie went on an excursion to a writer's conference, and with no one to bother, Jarad whiled away his time reading depressing poetry. (Probably because he was so sad Julie was gone.)Here's one that's pertinent to our last, and next, episode. The Raven. And it's coming out on Friday the 13th! What could be more fitting?We will see all you little ravens next week. Our next episode will probably be on Friday again for one more week, then back to Thursdays because...that's the day we picked.Support the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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The Fall of the House of Usher; The Long Dark Shadow of Hell
Send us Fan MailJulie and Jarad discuss the Netflix series, The Fall of the House of Usher, continuing our exploration of whether justice can be achieved in this lifetime. In this episode, we talk about the set up and framework for the show and note the massive number of Poe references, and where we think the show corresponds with Poe's themes and vibes, and where it might diverge.Along the way, Jarad admits to past crimes, which surprisingly incriminate Julie as well. There are spoilers and this show is classified as horror; something to think about before you choose to listen.References:Fall of the House of Usher SeriesAll the Fall of the House of Usher ReferencesThe Works of Edgar Allan Poe (There are lots of versions of this!)Support the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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The Devil at the Crossroads! Plus More Cowbell and Toads From Hell
Send us Fan MailJulie and Jarad discuss the trickster nature of the devil in folklore and why you better read the fine print if you make a deal with him. Jarad introduces some folklore about witches and offers to buy Julie a cowbell. Also some weird frogs and St. Augustine get thrown into this weird, witchy brew. Sources: Robert Johson CrossroadRobert Johnson: The man, myth, legend and legacyThe Appalachian Devil: Crossroads Dealer, Mischief-Maker, and Chain Thrower@TheAppalachianSonWhy Does Satan Like the Violin So MuchDance And The Church: A History More Complicated Than Footloose…Support the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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Perdition City Station Promo: Let's Go to Hell!
Send us Fan MailJulie and Jarad meet once a week to talk about all things Hellish, from horror to true crime to theology and justice. We discuss how and why our culture has been shaped by Christian ideas about Hell and the Devil—and whether all those ideas are even Christian in the first place.There will be snacks. For the cats. Feel free to bring your own and join us on the last train out of hell. Support the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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Can You Dig a Hole to Hell? And Will the Devil Have to Renovate?
Send us Fan MailIn which:Julie and Jarad fall down a super deep borehole right into Hell. We discover that we have listeners besides that one crow by Jarad's apartment.Jarad finds hard evidence that Julie is actually Lilith.Satan has digestive issues and a hole in the ceiling.Sources for this week's episodes: BBC: The Deepest Hole We’ve Ever Dug The Untold Truth of the Well to Hell Listverse.com 10 Earthly Entrances to the Afterlife Support the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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The Harrowing: The Great Easter Prison Break
Send us Fan MailJulie and Jarad natter on about The Harrowing of Hell with more chutzpah than actual knowledge. If Jesus can break people out of Hell, does that change theology? If you don't like the story about Hell's biggest jailbreak, what's wrong with you? Is time real? Does it matter? Is the crow that lives outside Jarad's window our one true listener?These questions and more are not answered in any meaningful way.Support the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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Julie Reads "The Bite"
Send us Fan MailThis is an audio recording of the story Jarad and I discuss in Episode 8, The Bite: When Fairies Attack!Going forward, we plan to have audio recordings of stories and a few other fun bonus episodes for patrons, but right now, this is for everyone to enjoy. Support the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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The Bite: When Fairies Attack
Send us Fan MailJarad asks Julie about his favorite Things Get Weird in Whistlestop story, The Bite. What happens when you make fairies mad? Things get weird. Also we learn that it's always best to go where the moon is happy.If you haven't read the Whistlestop stories, this episode does have a few spoilers. We will have an audio recording of the story up by the end of the week if you'd like to listen to that first. Things Get Weird in Whistlestop is available through any of your favorite bookstores, an e-book is also available.Support the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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Went on a Field Trip to Tartarus and All I Got Was This Lousy T-Shirt
Send us Fan MailJulie and Jarad go back on the timeline to the point where people started to say, "Hey! Life isn't fair. Wouldn't it be cool if there was some way to make it fair after we die?"Come for the scenery, Jarad's incessant whining, and the discussion about how every idea gets ruined by power hungry chaos goblins - even Hell. We used Bart Ehrman's Heaven and Hell, a history of the afterlife and a very old copy of Bullfinch's Mythology to guide us on our way.https://www.amazon.com/Heaven-Hell-Afterlife-Bart-Ehrman/dp/1501136739Trigger warning: There's some bad stuff happening in Tartarus. Trigger warning for brief mention of suicide, miscarriage, and stillbirth.Support the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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Hellometer Rating: Nosferatu, Appetite in an Ugly Fur Hat
Send us Fan MailJulie and Jarad discuss Nosferatu and rate it on the Hellometer Scale. Jarad's obsession with Bill Skarsgård is tested by prosthetics and an ugly fur hat. Julie's exasperation with the illegal and misogynistic activities of evil entities is exposed. The cats almost but don't eat a cricket.This episode, like all our episodes is not recommended for children (or people without a strong tolerance for nonsense.) Today's show is a discussion of a horror movie, so keep that in mind.Support the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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Krugersdorp Two: Frogs Boiling in a Cauldron of Nonsense
Send us Fan MailJulie and Jarad finish their discussion of the Krugersdorp Cult Murders with Jarad somehow managing not to chew his own ears off.Join us to see how trying to be good can go so very, very wrong. This week's sources are:The Devilsdorp Documentary streaming on AmazonThe Krugersdorp Cult Killings by Jana MarxSupport the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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Krugersdorp 1: When the Devil Comes Through the Back Door
Send us Fan MailJulie and Jarad discuss the Krugersdorp murders in South Africa by a single and simple-minded cult. We discover that just because you're looking hard for the devil out the front door doesn't mean he won't sneak in through the back. If you look hard enough for evil you'll find it. Maybe in your own mirror. Our sources this week are the Devilsdorp documentary and The Krugersdorp Cult Killings by Jana Marx.Support the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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Hellometer Rating: The Ninth Gate
Send us Fan MailJulie and Jarad use the Hellometer to rate the 1999 move The Ninth Gate. We talk an about the pursuit of evil, the limits of binary views of morality, and how someone so hot can get so weird. Also, Jarad ends up in the closet. But not like you think.Support the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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Hellification
Send us Fan MailJulie and Jarad discuss the religious underpinnings of Hell, the Hellification of our society, how the Devil got so popular, and how people use hell to gain power, all while Julie fights off her overly affectionate cat and Jarad ponders being a pirate.Support the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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All Aboard!
Send us Fan MailIn this episode, your hosts, Julie and Jarad, discuss their own formative religious experiences and, of course, Hell. From Julie's evangelical upbringing to Jarad's refusal to be churched, our hosts discuss how they got out of Hell and ended up where they are.Jump on board and with your own baggage! This episode will let you know where your hosts are coming from and where they're going. Or not going as the case may be, and hopefully is.Support the showMeet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie CarpenterFollow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and SubstackFollow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Jarad and Julie travel through the theology of the afterlife by train, bus, auto, ferry, and on foot. First stop Perdition City Station, last stop? Who knows?They will be joined by cats, an occasional guest, ghosts, and a dead guy named Morty who came to hang out one Halloween and never left.Come for the laughs, stay for the suffering.This podcast contains some adult language and situations.
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