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Publishing Pals
by Maria and Suzanne
Welcome to Publishing Pals Podcast, a podcast where two pals talk about publishing. For nearly a decade, we have tried, failed, and sometimes succeeded at being traditionally published. Come along with us as we share everything we've learned in this oddly gatekept, confusing, but incredibly fun and rewarding industry.
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How Authors Make Money
Hello!In this episode we’re talking about money: How writers make it, how payments are broken down, and how to deduct things for taxes. Here are some of the authors, artists, and other things we brought up during the episode. Just a disclaimer - please do not take our word as fact. The publishing industry is always changing, and often we are talking about things we are remembering from a while ago or have heard from others. While the agent deep dive is always fact checked, we do not prep for these episodes or look up other information beforehand. It’s always important to do your own research! If we realize after the fact that we have gotten anything wrong, we will do our best to correct it in the show notes.Here are links to Joanna MacKenzie, the agent from our agency deep dive:https://nelsonagency.com/submission-guidelines/ https://www.publishersmarketplace.com/dealmakers/detail.cgi?s=all&sort=date&id=8799&p=2https://manuscriptwishlist.com/mswl-post/joanna-mackenzie/Note: She had a link to the bird app too, but I’m not on it. Her IG is private. Dots and Dashes, Suzanne’s latest book with Seesaw Press:https://tinyurl.com/yc3j5rsaThis is the software I mentioned that I use to track my expenses for taxes:https://www.quicken.com/This is the agent who was talking about romance genre crossover interest (if you want to query him, he specializes in horror, fantasy, scifi, and some romantacy):https://belllomaxmoreton.co.uk/agents/john-bakerSome of the books we mentioned:The Lunar Chronicles:https://tinyurl.com/86n27j9rHeated Rivalry:https://tinyurl.com/bddkvj9bBridgerton:https://tinyurl.com/ye258tknYesteryear (the trad wife who wakes up in the 1800s)https://tinyurl.com/52xrbs4r
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Reads and Recs of 2025
Hello!In this episode we’re talking about reads and recs of 2025 - what we read this past year, what we loved, and what we’d recommend. Here are some of the authors, artists, and other things we brought up during the episode. Just a disclaimer - please do not take our word as fact. The publishing industry is always changing, and often we are talking about things we are remembering from a while ago or have heard from others. While the agent deep dive is always fact checked, we do not prep for these episodes or look up other information beforehand. It’s always important to do your own research! If we realize after the fact that we have gotten anything wrong, we will do our best to correct it in the show notes.Here are the links for Laura Rennert, the agent from our agency deep dive:https://www.andreabrownlit.com/Team/laura-rennerthttps://www.publishersmarketplace.com/members/LauraRennert/https://www.instagram.com/ljrennert/https://bsky.app/profile/ljrennert.bsky.socialHere are links to all the books we recommended!Roll Call:https://tinyurl.com/56vusne6Divine Rivals: https://tinyurl.com/9naw8uyyThe Spellshop:https://tinyurl.com/5xry5mpvThe Princess and the Grilled Cheese Sandwich:https://tinyurl.com/5ay9vr8dA Witch’s Guide to Magical Inkeeping:https://tinyurl.com/yc7vsjjyThe Wedding People:https://tinyurl.com/3ca8afrtThe Raven Scholar:https://tinyurl.com/4mzwbf85The Love of my Afterlife:https://tinyurl.com/2y8car4vSabriel:https://tinyurl.com/3desw7c8The House of my Mother:https://tinyurl.com/mrtpsybc An interview that goes over the study done of comparing audiobook reading to book or ebook reading:https://tinyurl.com/rjbjmdcw
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Interview with Illustrator/Author Raissa Figueroa!
Hello!In this episode we’re interviewing Raissa FigueroaRaissa Figueroa is a self-taught artist of both digital and traditional media repped by Natascha Morris of Tobias Literary. She has illustrated nearly 30 books for publishing houses such as Viking Books for Young Readers, Harper Collins, Little Simon, and more. Her book series Oona not only earned out, but earned a glowing review from Kirkus and a starred review from the School Library Journal. She is a Coretta Scott King Illustrator Award winner, and her work has twice been displayed at the Society of Illustrators show in New York. She loves hiking Southern California’s trails, boba, and hanging with her cat, Phoebe.Where to find Raissa:Website: https://rizzyfig.com/Order Raissa’s books here! https://rizzyfig.com/booksSocials:https://www.tiktok.com/@raissafigueroahttps://www.instagram.com/rizzyfig/https://rizzyfig.substack.com/Here are some of the authors, artists, and other things we brought up during the episode. Just a disclaimer - please do not take our word as fact. The publishing industry is always changing, and often we are talking about things we are remembering from a while ago or have heard from others. While the agent deep dive is always fact checked, we do not prep for these episodes or look up other information beforehand. It’s always important to do your own research! If we realize after the fact that we have gotten anything wrong, we will do our best to correct it in the show notes.Raissa’s recs:Marco Bucci 10 min to better painting videos: https://tinyurl.com/4zbvfj6aIraville (watercolorist): https://www.instagram.com/iraville/SVS learn: https://www.svslearn.com/Books:Framed Ink: https://tinyurl.com/yhje4m2xPicture This: https://tinyurl.com/ptk9u5p3
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Explaining R&Rs
Hello!In this episode we’re talking about R&Rs (revise and resubmits). What they are, how to handle them, and our experience with them. Here are some of the authors, artists, and other things we brought up during the episode. Just a disclaimer - please do not take our word as fact. The publishing industry is always changing, and often we are talking about things we are remembering from a while ago or have heard from others. While the agent deep dive is always fact checked, we do not prep for these episodes or look up other information beforehand. It’s always important to do your own research! If we realize after the fact that we have gotten anything wrong, we will do our best to correct it in the show notes.Andrea Morrison, the agent from our agency deep dive:Publishers marketplace profile (mswl, how to query): https://www.publishersmarketplace.com/members/AMorrison/?_ga=2.113589825.737472850.1595714341-1058719345.1595714341Writers House:https://www.writershouse.com/agents-staff/Her Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@andreaagency?lang=en
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Critique Groups
Hello!In this episode we’re talking about critique groups! How to find one, what to expect, and how to have a healthy relationship with yours. Here are some of the authors, artists, and other things we brought up during the episode. Just a disclaimer - please do not take our word as fact. The publishing industry is always changing, and often we are talking about things we are remembering from a while ago or have heard from others. While the agent deep dive is always fact checked, we do not prep for these episodes or look up other information beforehand. It’s always important to do your own research! If we realize after the fact that we have gotten anything wrong, we will do our best to correct it in the show notes.Tori Sharp, the agent from our agency deep dive:https://www.jdlit.com/tori-sharphttps://torisharp.com/https://www.instagram.com/ladygoofus/The book by Gloria Glenn, Suzanne’s old critique partner!https://www.amazon.com/Lory-Hallelujah-Gloria-Glenn-ebook/dp/B0CMBVDXH5Also, the link for Dots and Dashes, Suzanne’s second book!https://seesaw-press.com/
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Comp Titles
Hello!In this episode we’re talking about comp titles! What they are, how to use them, and why they’re important. Here are some of the authors, artists, and other things we brought up during the episode. Just a disclaimer - please do not take our word as fact. The publishing industry is always changing, and often we are talking about things we are remembering from a while ago or have heard from others. While the agent deep dive is always fact checked, we do not prep for these episodes or look up other information beforehand. It’s always important to do your own research! If we realize after the fact that we have gotten anything wrong, we will do our best to correct it in the show notes.Here are the links to Elana Roth Parker, the agent from our agency deep dive:http://www.ldlainc.com/abouthttp://www.elana.me/https://www.instagram.com/elanarothhttp://www.elana.me/wish-listThe Once and Future Queen:https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-once-and-future-queen-deluxe-limited-edition-paula-lafferty/7ca87ecde6a7f009?ean=9781645662891&next=tGirlfriend on Mars:https://bookshop.org/p/books/girlfriend-on-mars-a-novel-deborah-willis/062603bbc925cdfe?ean=9781324087007&next=tThe Prince and the Dressmaker:https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-prince-and-the-dressmaker-jen-wang/cd42a4326446bc08?ean=9781626723634&next=tDots and Dashes as well as Another Enchanted April can be found here!https://seesaw-press.com/The Selection Series:https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-selection-kiera-cass/ad5631d9e87b9892?ean=9780062059949&next=t
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Interview with SCBWI Regional Advisor Erica Wood!
Hello!In this episode we’re interviewing Erica Wood, the regional advisor for SCBWI. Erica Wood is a middle grade, YA, and poetry writer, long time member of SCBWI, and since 2020 has been the regional advisor for SCBWI’s Carolinas region. Erica studied English, Theater, and Creative Writing at Queens University, and has a Masters of Science in Vision Rehabilitation Therapy. Erica’s Substack link: https://substack.com/@ehwoodSubscribe for write-along posts similar to a getting ready with me blog!Join SCBWI and explore what’s available in your region here:https://www.scbwi.org/Here are some of the authors, artists, and other things we brought up during the episode. Just a disclaimer - please do not take our word as fact. The publishing industry is always changing, and often we are talking about things we are remembering from a while ago or have heard from others. While the agent deep dive is always fact checked, we do not prep for these episodes or look up other information beforehand. It’s always important to do your own research! If we realize after the fact that we have gotten anything wrong, we will do our best to correct it in the show notes.Big Magic:https://bookshop.org/p/books/big-magic-creative-living-beyond-fear-elizabeth-gilbert/8e82d1652a8a500f?ean=9781594634727&next=tSplintered (the Alice in Wonderland book): https://bookshop.org/p/books/splintered-splintered-series-1-a-g-howard/1a368bf2de52e18e?ean=9781419709708&next=tDugenon Crawler Carl: https://bookshop.org/p/books/dungeon-crawler-carl-matt-dinniman/0cdd8387d0a86880?ean=9780593820247&next=tButcher and Blackbird:https://bookshop.org/p/books/butcher-blackbird-the-ruinous-love-trilogy-brynne-weaver/f78ea7c980f835e1?ean=9781638931737&next=tThe Raven Scholar: https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-raven-scholar-antonia-hodgson/cc53efb6d12e8269?ean=9780316577229&next=t
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What's a Blurb and How to Write One
Hello!In this episode we discuss blurbs: what they are, why you need one, and how to write one for your book! Here are some of the authors, artists, and other things we brought up during the episode. Just a disclaimer - please do not take our word as fact. The publishing industry is always changing, and often we are talking about things we are remembering from a while ago or have heard from others. While the agent deep dive is always fact checked, we do not prep for these episodes or look up other information beforehand. It’s always important to do your own research! If we realize after the fact that we have gotten anything wrong, we will do our best to correct it in the show notes.Barbara Poelle, the agent from our agency deep dive:https://www.wordonelit.com/agentsAnother Enchanted April:https://a.co/d/7GyxVhy The Cruel Prince:https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-cruel-prince-holly-black/eba3c0a1370a52bd?ean=9780316310314&next=tAssistant to the Villain:https://bookshop.org/p/books/assistant-to-the-villain-hannah-nicole-maehrer/9f2e622cc2359404?ean=9781649375803&next=tPlain Jane and the Mermaid:https://bookshop.org/p/books/plain-jane-and-the-mermaid-vera-brosgol/d0f18bf27c7a14ab?ean=9781250314857&next=t The Once and Future Witches:https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/49504061-the-once-and-future-witchesThe Scorpio Races:https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-scorpio-races-maggie-stiefvater/52fd66b2d04c5c63?ean=9780545224918&next=tBeyond the bright sea:https://bookshop.org/p/books/beyond-the-bright-sea-lauren-wolk/4a0c4b795b184c50?ean=9781101994870&next=tThis Girl’s a Killer:https://bookshop.org/p/books/this-girl-s-a-killer-emma-c-wells/4fbdc76b240222d2?ean=9781464218620&next=tThe Hunger Games:https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-hunger-games-hunger-games-book-one-suzanne-collins/2af1c5e0ab209abc?ean=9780439023528&next=t
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The Future of Publishing
Hello!In this episode we’re talking all about the future of publishing, from word counts to what genres publishers are looking for, and summarizing some webinars, stats, etc. we’ve seen lately.Here are some of the authors, artists, and other things we brought up during the episode. Just a disclaimer - please do not take our word as fact. The publishing industry is always changing, and often we are talking about things we are remembering from a while ago or have heard from others. While the agent deep dive is always fact checked, we do not prep for these episodes or look up other information beforehand. It’s always important to do your own research! If we realize after the fact that we have gotten anything wrong, we will do our best to correct it in the show notes.**** SeeSaw Press! Check out Suzanne’s publishing company!!**** https://www.seesaw-press.com/The webinar I saw was called State of the Children's Publishing Market with Deborah Halverson - November 2025 , and the replay video should be available for SCBWI members.Deborah Halverson, the speaker from the webinar: https://www.deborahhalverson.com/AR bookfinder (the site that gives you the word count of books): https://www.arbookfind.com/Article on standard word count length for books: https://kidlit.com/manuscript-length/These are the word count ranges we read out:Board Book — 100 words maxEarly Picture Book — 400 words maxPicture Book — 600 words max (Seriously. Max.)Nonfiction Picture Book — 3,000 words max, but closer to 1,000 to 2,000 wordsEarly Reader — 1,500 words is the maxChapter Book — This varies widely, depending on grade and reader level, usually starting at 4,000 words and 15,000 words maxYoung Middle Grade or MG — 15,000 to 25,000 wordsMiddle Grade or MG — 45,000 words max for contemporary, mystery, humorUpper Middle Grade — 65,000 words max for fantasy/sci-fi, adventure and historicalYoung Adult or YA — 85,000 words max for contemporary, humor, mystery, historical, romance, etc. 95,000 words max for fantasy, sci-fi, paranormal, etc.New Adult — 65,000 to 85,000 wordsBob the Vampire Snail: https://bookshop.org/p/books/bob-the-vampire-snail-andrea-zuill/67bed346cd53eda5?ean=9780593814963&next=t
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A.I. Ethics
Hello!In this episode we’re talking all about A.I. - how it’s used, whether it’s ethical, and how to approach it. Here are some of the authors, artists, and other things we brought up during the episode. Just a disclaimer - please do not take our word as fact. The publishing industry is always changing, and often we are talking about things we are remembering from a while ago or have heard from others. While the agent deep dive is always fact checked, we do not prep for these episodes or look up other information beforehand. It’s always important to do your own research! If we realize after the fact that we have gotten anything wrong, we will do our best to correct it in the show notes.Beth Phelan, the agent we discussed in our agency deep dive:https://bethphelan.com/submissionshttps://www.manuscriptwishlist.com/mswl-post/beth-phelan/https://www.publishersmarketplace.com/dealmakers/detail.cgi?id=28560&s=all&sort=date&p=2https://www.galltzacker.com/submissions.htmlInkbloom AI, the program Suzanne saw an agent was using: https://inkbloom.ink/ Lawsuits against AI: https://www.wired.com/story/ai-copyright-case-tracker/Lionsgate AI fail: https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/lionsgate-movies-aiNanowrimo drama: https://slate.com/technology/2024/09/national-novel-writing-month-ai-bots-controversy.htmlCopyright revoked over AI graphic novel: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/02/us-copyright-office-withdraws-copyright-for-ai-generated-comic-artwork/Disney and Universal AI lawsuit case: https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/11/tech/disney-universal-midjourney-ai-copyright-lawsuitAI’s environmental impact: https://news.mit.edu/2025/explained-generative-ai-environmental-impact-0117
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Interview With Agent Kelly Dyksterhouse!
Hello! We are so excited for this episode to interview Kelly Dyksterhouse, an agent at Tobias Literary Agency. Kelly is an agented writer as well as an agent at The Tobias Literary Agency, a boutique agency that stresses collaborative culture where writers and artists feel comfortable to explore and perfect their craft while helping them reach their career goals. Kelly represents a wide range of kidlit for both illustrators and writers, ranging from picture books to YA. Her MSWL currently includes high-concept middle grade and young adult novels with high-level writing.Links to Kelly:https://www.manuscriptwishlist.com/mswl-post/kelly-dyksterhouse/https://kellydyksterhouse.com/https://www.thetobiasagency.com/kelly-dyksterhousehttps://www.instagram.com/kellydhouse/Here are some of the books and things we brought up:Save the Cat:https://bookshop.org/p/books/save-the-cat-the-last-book-on-screenwriting-you-ll-ever-need-blake-snyder/fc9de51860f861ab?ean=9781932907001&next=tThe Plot Whisperer:https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-plot-whisperer-secrets-of-story-structure-any-writer-can-master-martha-alderson/ca4625772941375f?ean=9781440525889&next=tThe Art of Fiction:https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-art-of-fiction-notes-on-craft-for-young-writers-john-gardner/c06adb1000e6fb7c?ean=9780679734031&next=t#kidlitartpostcardhttp://www.ginaperry.com/postcardPortfolio Tuesdayshttps://www.portfolioday.art/Brave Old Blue:https://bookshop.org/p/books/brave-old-blue-colleen-muske/a250de5c6c805ae6?ean=9781534113213&next=tBabel:https://bookshop.org/p/books/babel-or-the-necessity-of-violence-an-arcane-history-of-the-oxford-translators-revolution-r-f-kuang/f3bd39e4724ae085?ean=9780063021433&next=tTuck and Tina:https://bookshop.org/p/books/tuck-and-tina-and-the-lost-fortune-volume-1-jack-keely/e0d380c3583466c8?ean=9798881602055&next=tWhen Dealing With Dragons:https://bookshop.org/p/books/when-dealing-with-dragons-dana-swift/125ac2188e2ad4b1?ean=9781250402431&next=t
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Intro to Conferences
Hello! In this episode we talk about writer conferences. What they are, why you should go or not, and which ones are worth the investment. Here are some of the authors, artists, and other things we brought up during the episode. Just a disclaimer - please do not take our word as fact. The publishing industry is always changing, and often we are talking about things we are remembering from a while ago or have heard from others. While the agent deep dive is always fact checked, we do not prep for these episodes or look up other information beforehand. It’s always important to do your own research! If we realize after the fact that we have gotten anything wrong, we will do our best to correct it in the show notes.Links for Agent Sarah Landis:https://www.sll.com/our-teamhttps://www.manuscriptwishlist.com/mswl-post/sarah-landis/https://www.publishersmarketplace.com/dealmakers/detail.cgi?id=54166Writers conferences to check out:https://thewritelife.com/writers-conferences/Storymakers Conference:https://storymakersguild.org/storymakers-conferenceMilkwood Retreat:https://www.milkwoodfarm.org/2025-scheduleAlaska Writer’s Guild:https://www.alaskawritersguild.com/Author Ronald L. Smith:https://strangeblackflowers.com/Serpent & Dove:https://bookshop.org/p/books/serpent-dove-shelby-mahurin/bc970fc784729858?ean=9780062878038&next=tThe Raven Boys:https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-raven-boys-the-raven-cycle-book-1-volume-1-maggie-stiefvater/b3f546551e827665?ean=9780545424936&next=t
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Anatomy Of a Logline
Hello!In this episode we talk all about loglines! What they are, how to write one, and what to pay attention to.Here are some of the things we brought up during the episode. Please do not take our word as fact. The publishing industry is always changing, and It’s always important to do your own research! If we realize after the fact that we have gotten anything wrong, we will do our best to correct it in the show notes.Tamar Rydzinski, agent:https://www.contextlit.com/submissionshttps://www.manuscriptwishlist.com/mswl-post/tamar-rydzinski/https://www.publishersmarketplace.com/dealmakers/detail.cgi?id=21368The 10 types of stories:https://savethecat.com/forum/10-genres-and-beat-sheetsBOOKS: Akata Witch:https://bookshop.org/p/books/akata-witch-nnedi-okorafor/bf7765fff598874a?ean=9780606401012&next=t&next=tBook Lovers:https://bookshop.org/p/books/book-lovers-emily-henry/99f6c7d4ccb34055?ean=9780593440872&next=tSix of Crows:https://bookshop.org/p/books/six-of-crows-leigh-bardugo/702f4e72e3675cb5?ean=9780606399449&next=t&next=tCinder:https://bookshop.org/p/books/cinder-book-one-of-the-lunar-chronicles-marissa-meyer/33d4ad8f225f4dcc?ean=9781250768889&next=tThe Hunger Games:https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-hunger-games-hunger-games-book-one-volume-1-suzanne-collins/b0f082e59a4806b5?ean=9780439023528&next=tEleanor Olifant is Completely Fine:https://bookshop.org/p/books/eleanor-oliphant-is-completely-fine-reese-s-book-club-a-novel-gail-honeyman/b20d1b1ac60fc502?ean=9780735220690&next=tYou should see me in a crown:https://bookshop.org/p/books/you-should-see-me-in-a-crown-leah-johnson/fb2fac43734ad748?ean=9781338503296&next=tThe three lives of Kate K:https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-three-lives-of-cate-kay-kate-fagan/e0a009353105fe4f?ean=9781668076217&next=tThe Wednesday Wars:https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-wednesday-wars-a-newbery-honor-award-winner-gary-d-schmidt/88d9850240192f30?ean=9780547237602&
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Writer Resources
Hello! In this episode, we go over writer resources. Wanna hear us word vomit as many helpful things as we can? This is the episode. Aaaaah I ran out of characters so I wasn't able to link everything, but reach out if you need a link for something we mentioned that isn't on here!Links for Jessica Mielo: https://inkwellmanagement.com/staff/jessica-mileoQuery section of inkwell’s page: https://inkwellmanagement.com/contact/Query tracker page: https://querytracker.net/query/JessicaMileo/Publishers marketplace: https://www.publishersmarketplace.com/dealmakers/detail.cgi?id=56038MSWL: https://www.manuscriptwishlist.com/mswl-post/jessica-mileo/88 Cups of Teat: https://88cupsoftea.com/First Draft with Sarah Enni: https://www.firstdraftpod.com/The Happy Writer: https://www.marissameyer.com/podcast/Book Lounge by Libby: https://www.libbylife.com/bookloungeScrivener: https://www.literatureandlatte.com/scrivener/overviewUlysses: https://ulysses.app/Microsoft OneNote: https://www.onenote.com/?public=1&wdorigin=ondcauth2&wdorigin=ondcLiterary Lens Podcast: https://www.literarylenspodcast.com/Bookends Literary Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/BookEndsLiteraryAgencyProko:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClM2LuQ1q5WEc23462tQzBgSchoolism:https://www.youtube.com/@SchoolismliveMing Creative Art Academy:https://www.mingcreativeart.com/Books we mentioned:Lessons in Chemistry:https://bookshop.org/p/books/lessons-in-chemistry-bonnie-garmus/19638865?ean=9780593314487&next=tAuthor Christina Lauren:https://christinalaurenbooks.com/Plain Jane and the Mermaid:https://bookshop.org/p/books/plain-jane-and-the-mermaid-vera-brosgol/20221536?ean=9781250314857&next=t
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Interview with Children's Book Author/Illustrator Katie Dwyer!
Hello!In this episode we interview Katie Dwyer, a picture book author/illustrator repped by Kaitlyn Sanchez of Bradford Literary. Her debut picture book, Bear’s Friend, is slated for publication in 2027 by Rise, an imprint of Penguin. Katie is a mom of both kids and dogs and works out of her home in Ashville, N.C. Here are some of the authors, artists, and other things we brought up during the episode. Just a disclaimer - please do not take our word as fact. The publishing industry is always changing, and often we are talking about things we are remembering from a while ago or have heard from others. While the agent deep dive is always fact checked, we do not prep for these episodes or look up other information beforehand. It’s always important to do your own research! If we realize after the fact that we have gotten anything wrong, we will do our best to correct it in the show notes.Author/Illustrator Interview Episode with Katie Dwyer!https://www.katiedwyerillustrations.com/instagram.com/katiedwyer.illustrations/Katiedwyerillustrations.substack.com/Illustrator Katia Chenhttps://www.catiachien.com/Illustrator Beatrice Alemagna http://www.beatricealemagna.com/The Illustration Departmenthttps://illustrationdept.com/SVS Learnhttps://www.svslearn.com/Kaitlin Sanchez of Bradford Literary (Katie’s Agent):https://bradfordlit.com/kaitlyn-sanchez/
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Building your Query List
Hello!In this episode we talk about building your query list. What ways can and should you track agents you’ve queried? What sort of research should you do on an agent beforehand? What do partial and full requests mean? All explained in this episode of Publishing Pals :)Here are some of the authors, artists, and other things we brought up during the episode. Just a disclaimer - please do not take our word as fact. The publishing industry is always changing, and often we are talking about things we are remembering from a while ago or have heard from others. While the agent deep dive is always fact checked, we do not prep for these episodes or look up other information beforehand. It’s always important to do your own research! If we realize after the fact that we have gotten anything wrong, we will do our best to correct it in the show notes.Jim McCarthy, the agent from our agency deep dive:https://www.dystel.com/jim-mccarthyhttps://www.manuscriptwishlist.com/mswl-post/jim-mccarthy/https://www.instagram.com/jimmccarthy528/https://www.publishersmarketplace.com/dealmakers/detail.cgi?id=789List of pitch events (many have moved over to Bluesky!):https://www.futureworldsediting.co.uk/twitter-pitch-events-2024/Manuscript Wish List:http://manuscriptwishlist.com/ Books we talked about:Beasts of Prey:https://bookshop.org/p/books/beasts-of-prey-ayana-gray/17371592?ean=9780593405703&next=tWonder:https://bookshop.org/p/books/wonder-r-j-palacio/7364522?ean=9780375869020&next=t
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Agents 101
Trigger Warning: At 45:19 we talk about a book in which attempted SA occurs. If this is triggering for you, please resume at 46:13 if you would like to skip that part. In this episode we talk all about agents! What is an agent? Where do you look for one? How can you tell if one is reputable?Here are some of the authors, artists, and other things we brought up during the episode. Just a disclaimer - please do not take our word as fact. The publishing industry is always changing, and often we are talking about things we are remembering from a while ago or have heard from others. While the agent deep dive is always fact checked, we do not prep for these episodes or look up other information beforehand. Katelyn Detweiler, the agent from our agency deep dive:https://jillgrinbergliterary.com/about/#meet-the-teamhttps://querytracker.net/agent/4889https://www.publishersmarketplace.com/dealmakers/detail.cgi?sort=date&s=all&id=25849&p=2Query Shark:https://queryshark.blogspot.com/PubTips:https://www.reddit.com/r/PubTips/SCBWI’s “The Book”:https://www.scbwi.org/essential-guide-to-publishing-for-childrenBookends youtube channel:https://www.youtube.com/c/BookEndsLiteraryAgencyQuery Tracker:https://querytracker.net/Query Manager:https://querymanager.com/app/dashboard/index.php3 Point Perspective Podcast:https://www.svslearn.com/3pointperspectiveAn article about the #publishingpaidme hashtag (it shares info on advances from different authors):https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/jun/08/publishingpaidme-authors-share-advances-to-expose-racial-disparitiesAssociation of American Literary Agents:https://aalitagents.org/ The Happy Writer Podcast:https://www.marissameyer.com/podcast/Books we talked about:Kaetlyn Detwieler’s book mentioned in the episode, The First Date Prophecy:https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-first-date-prophecy/18846605?ean=9781496742841&next=tWintersong:https://bookshop.org/p/books/wintersong-s-jae-jones/8454784?ean=9781250157362&next=tDial A for Aunties:https://bookshop.org/p/books/dial-a-for-aunties-jesse-q-sutanto/16520404?ean=9780593333037&next=t
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Meet the Pals!
Hello!In this episode, meet the pals! Maria and Suzanne, who will be talking you through the ups and downs of the traditional publishing industry.Please do not take our word as fact. While the agent deep dive is always fact checked, we do not prep for these episodes or look up other information beforehand. If we realize after the fact that we have gotten anything wrong, we will do our best to correct it here.This is where all the publishing deals are announced: https://www.publishersmarketplace.com/The wonderful artist Suzanne used:https://www.fiverr.com/mountdesignSuzie Townsend, the agent from our Agency Deep Dive:https://www.newleafliterary.com/people/suzie-townsend/SCBWI https://www.scbwi.org/The Highlights Foundation:https://www.highlightsfoundation.org/RWA (Romance Writers of America).Disclaimer: I had heard it was disbanded but it looks like it’s still up and running and thriving!https://www.rwa.org/SFF writers of America:https://www.sfwa.org/Kitlit GN/ Janna Morishima’s community:https://kids-comics-unite.mn.co/https://kidlitgn.com/FirstSecond Books:https://firstsecondbooks.com/Books we talked about:Starling House:https://bookshop.org/p/books/starling-house-alix-e-harrow/19538409?ean=9781250799067&next=tThe School for Good and Evil:https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-school-for-good-and-evil-soman-chainani/6430357?ean=9780062104908&next=tAnything by Emily Henry:https://bookshop.org/p/books/book-lovers/18860710?ean=9780593334836&next=tThe inventors at No. 8:https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-inventors-at-no-8-a-m-morgen/113569?ean=9780316471497&next=tThe inventors and the lost island:https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-inventors-and-the-lost-island-a-m-morgen/113566?ean=9780316471534&next=tWordslut:https://bookshop.org/p/books/wordslut-a-feminist-guide-to-taking-back-the-english-language-amanda-montell/7994946?ean=9780062868886&next=tLegends and Lattes:https://bookshop.org/p/books/legends-lattes-a-novel-of-high-fantasy-and-low-stakes-tr
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Welcome to Publishing Pals Podcast, a podcast where two pals talk about publishing. For nearly a decade, we have tried, failed, and sometimes succeeded at being traditionally published. Come along with us as we share everything we've learned in this oddly gatekept, confusing, but incredibly fun and rewarding industry.
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