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Push Each Other to the Top
by Jonathan & Brent
Push Each Other to the Top is a podcast about recovery, resilience, and the power of honest conversation.In each episode, Brent shares his journey through addiction, healing, faith, and the long road back — not as an expert, but as someone who’s been there. Host Jonathan listens, asks, and reflects as they explore what it means to fall, and what it takes to climb again.These aren’t polished success stories — they’re raw, real, and full of hope.If you're looking for a podcast that meets you in the mess and helps you move forward, you’re in the right place.
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E19 - "A Drunk Santa Claus"
Growing up in an alcoholic home, Brent knew fear before he knew much else — hiding when his dad came home drunk, holding his breath through holidays. He also knows that the kids watching their parents struggle right now feel exactly the same way.In this episode, Jonathan shares what happened during his latest Thursday night prison outreach — nine men, one makeshift translator, and a conversation about Step 2 that stopped everyone cold when someone asked, "What does atonement even mean?" Then Brent opens up about the counterintuitive advice he gives families of addicts, why strangers are often better at helping than loved ones, and what it felt like to nearly relapse over a cigarette on a street in Thailand — after 37 years sober.At the heart of it all: hope. Where it comes from, who gives it, and why one honest conversation with the right person can be more powerful than the disease itself.Recovery isn't always logical. But it is possible. And we're gonna show up for you.🔗 Stay Connected & Keep Climbing 🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts 🎧 Also on Spotify 📺 Watch full episodes on YouTube 🌐 Visit us at PushEachOtherToTheTop.com📧 Email us - we would love to hear from you!🙏 If this episode spoke to you, share it with someone who needs a little hope today.
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E18 - “It’s Not Odd, It’s God”
After a break, Jonathan and Brent are back—and the conversation goes deep right away. They explore how both of them unexpectedly found themselves working in addiction recovery, the power of spiritual guidance, and what it really means to help people change. From prison classrooms to family interventions, this episode is about hope, hard truths, and the surprising paths that lead us to purpose.🔗 Stay Connected & Keep Climbing 🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts 🎧 Also on Spotify 📺 Watch full episodes on YouTube 🌐 Visit us at PushEachOtherToTheTop.com📧 Email us - we would love to hear from you!🙏 If this episode spoke to you, share it with someone who needs a little hope today.
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E17 - “99.9% of the Catastrophe I Imagined Never Happened”
In this episode, Stefan joins Brent to share his powerful story of recovery — from the dark caverns of addiction to discovering hope, resilience, and brotherhood. Along the way, he opens up about fear, surrender, and the realization that nearly all of the catastrophe he once imagined never came to pass. This is an honest conversation about learning to live one day at a time, leaning on others, and finding freedom in recovery.🔗 Stay Connected & Keep Climbing 🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts 🎧 Also on Spotify 📺 Watch full episodes on YouTube 🌐 Visit us at PushEachOtherToTheTop.com📧 Email us - we would love to hear from you!🙏 If this episode spoke to you, share it with someone who needs a little hope today.
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E16 - “A Full Circle Moment”
In this episode, Brent, Jonathan, and Michael open up about the powerful shifts that happen when families stop enabling and start facing the truth. Brent shares the turning point when the “dance” of addiction finally stopped, changing the entire family dynamic. Michael reflects on moments of chaos—like the neighborhood fire—that reveal how fragile and precious stability can be. Together, they explore honesty, recovery, and the strength it takes to put yourself first. This is a full circle moment of healing, faith, and family.🔗 Stay Connected & Keep Climbing 🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts 🎧 Also on Spotify 📺 Watch full episodes on YouTube 🌐 Visit us at PushEachOtherToTheTop.com📧 Email us - we would love to hear from you!🙏 If this episode spoke to you, share it with someone who needs a little hope today.
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E15 - “Miracles Have Happened in This Family”
In this special family roundtable, Brent sits down with his children to talk about the impact of recovery on all of their lives. They share honest reflections about years of struggle, the work it took to rebuild trust, and the miracles they’ve witnessed along the way. This episode is a powerful reminder that recovery doesn’t just change one person — it can transform an entire family.🔗 Stay Connected & Keep Climbing 🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts 🎧 Also on Spotify 📺 Watch full episodes on YouTube 🌐 Visit us at PushEachOtherToTheTop.com📧 Email us - we would love to hear from you!🙏 If this episode spoke to you, share it with someone who needs a little hope today.
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E14 - “If I Get My Second Chance, I Will Do Whatever It Takes.”
In this powerful episode of Push Each Other to the Top, Brent welcomes his longtime friend Chaz to share his journey from addiction and brokenness to hope and purpose. Chaz opens up about growing up in chaos, battling heroin and meth addiction, and the pivotal moment in jail that sparked his transformation. With honesty and vulnerability, he reveals how recovery, community, and faith gave him the courage to rebuild his life, reconnect with his children, and pursue his dream of becoming a firefighter. This is a story of resilience, second chances, and the power of showing up when it matters most.🔗 Stay Connected & Keep Climbing 🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts 🎧 Also on Spotify 📺 Watch full episodes on YouTube 🌐 Visit us at PushEachOtherToTheTop.com📧 Email us - we would love to hear from you!🙏 If this episode spoke to you, share it with someone who needs a little hope today.
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E13 - “Surrender and Follow Direction”
In this episode of Push Each Other to the Top, Brent and Jonathan dive deep into the challenges families face when living alongside addiction. Brent shares real experiences helping loved ones navigate relapse, codependency, and the difficult decisions that come with setting boundaries. At the heart of recovery, he reminds us, is the courage to surrender and follow direction.From powerful stories of honesty and kindness to the hard truth about enabling, this conversation offers hope, clarity, and encouragement for anyone impacted by addiction — whether directly or through someone they love.🔗 Stay Connected & Keep Climbing 🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts 🎧 Also on Spotify 📺 Watch full episodes on YouTube 🌐 Visit us at PushEachOtherToTheTop.com📧 Email us - we would love to hear from you!🙏 If this episode spoke to you, share it with someone who needs a little hope today.
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E12 - “The Opposite of Addiction Is Connection”
In this episode of Push Each Other to the Top, Phillip joins Brent and Jonathan to share his path from isolation to belonging. He opens up about how addiction slowly took over his life, threatening his family and future, and how he found hope through fellowship and spiritual renewal. Phillip’s story is a reminder that recovery isn’t about willpower alone — it’s about connection, honesty, and community. For anyone struggling or supporting a loved one, his words bring encouragement and light.🔗 Stay Connected & Keep Climbing 🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts 🎧 Also on Spotify 📺 Watch full episodes on YouTube 🌐 Visit us at PushEachOtherToTheTop.com📧 Email us - we would love to hear from you!🙏 If this episode spoke to you, share it with someone who needs a little hope today.
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E11 - “You Can Enjoy Family Again”
In this heartfelt episode of Push Each Other to the Top, Brent shares how recovery isn’t just about the individual — it’s about healing the entire family. Through years of hard work, honest conversations, and mutual growth, he’s learned that families can come back together, build healthy relationships, and truly enjoy life again. This episode offers hope to anyone feeling the weight of addiction’s impact on loved ones, proving that there’s another side to the chaos — a place of connection, laughter, and lasting joy.🔗 Stay Connected & Keep Climbing 🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts 🎧 Also on Spotify 📺 Watch full episodes on YouTube 🌐 Visit us at PushEachOtherToTheTop.com📧 Email us - we would love to hear from you!🙏 If this episode spoke to you, share it with someone who needs a little hope today.
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E10 - “Walking Through a Veil Into a Whole Different Life”
In this moving episode of Push Each Other to the Top, Brent reflects on what it feels like to wake up inside a life he never thought was possible. From once being lost, angry, and shortcut-seeking — to now building meaningful relationships, earning an honest living, and facing his own character defects — Brent shares how recovery has felt like stepping through a veil into a completely different world. This one is about clarity, self-awareness, and the real rewards of doing the work.🔗 Stay Connected & Keep Climbing 🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts 🎧 Also on Spotify 📺 Watch full episodes on YouTube 🌐 Visit us at PushEachOtherToTheTop.com📧 Email us - we would love to hear from you!🙏 If this episode spoke to you, share it with someone who needs a little hope today.
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E9 - “I Was Angry Because I Didn't Know How to Live”
In this emotional episode of Push Each Other to the Top, Brent opens up about the anger that consumed him — not just as an emotion, but as a response to feeling lost in life. Through a conversation about his past and the guidance of his sponsor Horace, he uncovers the deeper reasons behind his rage and begins the journey toward understanding, healing, and change. This is a story about facing what’s underneath the surface and finding the courage to learn how to live.🔗 Stay Connected & Keep Climbing 🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts 🎧 Also on Spotify 📺 Watch full episodes on YouTube 🌐 Visit us at PushEachOtherToTheTop.com📧 Email us - we would love to hear from you!🙏 If this episode spoke to you, share it with someone who needs a little hope today.
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E8 - “I'm just so blessed to have more family in my life.”
In this heartwarming episode of Push Each Other to the Top, Brent and Jonathan open up about the wild and emotional journey that led to their reunion as father and son. What started with a DNA test quickly unraveled decades of hidden truths, unexpected siblings, and a complete reshaping of family identity.Through laughter, near relapse, and raw vulnerability, they explore what it means to belong, how love can expand through surprise, and why the greatest blessings sometimes come from the most unexpected places. This is a story about connection, healing, and the beauty of found family.🔗 Stay Connected & Keep Climbing 🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts 🎧 Also on Spotify 📺 Watch full episodes on YouTube 🌐 Visit us at PushEachOtherToTheTop.com📧 Email us - we would love to hear from you!🙏 If this episode spoke to you, share it with someone who needs a little hope today.
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E7 - “Float Down the River”
In this heartfelt episode of Push Each Other to the Top, Brent reflects on the power of surrender in his recovery journey. Using a river as a metaphor, he describes how letting go of control brought unexpected peace. From the chaos of addiction to the calm that followed acceptance, this episode invites listeners to consider what happens when we stop fighting the current—and start trusting the flow of life.🔗 Stay Connected & Keep Climbing 🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts 🎧 Also on Spotify 📺 Watch full episodes on YouTube 🌐 Visit us at PushEachOtherToTheTop.com📧 Email us - we would love to hear from you!🙏 If this episode spoke to you, share it with someone who needs a little hope today.
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E6 - "You Go from Being a Sponsor to Being a Friend"
In this heartfelt episode, Brent shares the powerful journey of becoming a sponsor and forming genuine friendships through recovery. He vividly recounts his experience sponsoring Stefan—a younger man whose life story mirrored his own, from early struggles to shared paths of healing. Through this profound connection, Brent reveals how guiding someone else through the steps can deeply enrich one's own recovery, transforming sponsorship into lasting friendship.Listen as Brent reflects on the unexpected gifts of helping others and how stepping into the role of a sponsor forever changed his understanding of recovery, friendship, and personal growth.🔗 Stay Connected & Keep Climbing 🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts 🎧 Also on Spotify 📺 Watch full episodes on YouTube 🌐 Visit us at PushEachOtherToTheTop.com📧 Email us - we would love to hear from you!🙏 If this episode spoke to you, share it with someone who needs a little hope today.
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E5 - "The Only Thing I Have to Give Is My Experience, Strength, and Hope"
In this inspiring episode of Push Each Other to the Top, Brent reflects on the power of the 12 steps and how recovery has given him more than just sobriety—it’s given him purpose. From battling insurance bureaucracy to sharing stories of rebuilding integrity, Brent opens up about the challenges and triumphs of learning how to ask for help, walk through fear, and give back. His message is clear: real healing happens when we stop doing it alone. If you’re thinking about treatment or in the middle of your journey, this one will remind you that change is possible—and worth it.🔗 Stay Connected & Keep Climbing 🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts 🎧 Also on Spotify 📺 Watch full episodes on YouTube 🌐 Visit us at PushEachOtherToTheTop.com📧 Email us - we would love to hear from you!🙏 If this episode spoke to you, share it with someone who needs a little hope today.
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E4 - "God, I Don’t Mean Any of This"
In this gripping episode of Push Each Other to the Top, Brent confronts the darkest chapter of his recovery—resentment. From standing face to face with the man who harmed his daughter to praying nightly for someone he could barely stand to forgive, Brent shares how Step 4 forced him to reckon with rage, vengeance, and ultimately… surrender. Through raw honesty and spiritual desperation, he walks us through the power of naming resentment—and the unexpected peace on the other side.🔗 Stay Connected & Keep Climbing 🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts 🎧 Also on Spotify 📺 Watch full episodes on YouTube 🌐 Visit us at PushEachOtherToTheTop.com📧 Email us - we would love to hear from you!🙏 If this episode spoke to you, share it with someone who needs a little hope today.
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E3 – “I had to turn my will and my life over—and I didn't want to.”
In this powerful episode of Push Each Other to the Top, Brent shares his profound journey through recovery, focusing on the turning point of Step 3—learning to surrender his will and life to the care of a higher power. He recounts the impact of his tough-love sponsor, Horace, and the daily commitment of attending 90 meetings in 90 days. Brent opens up about confronting deep-seated resentments, the fear of true surrender, and the healing that followed. This is a raw and honest look at the transformative power of action, accountability, and spiritual trust in early sobriety.🔗 Stay Connected & Keep Climbing 🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts 🎧 Also on Spotify 📺 Watch full episodes on YouTube 🌐 Visit us at PushEachOtherToTheTop.com📧 Email us - we would love to hear from you!🙏 If this episode spoke to you, share it with someone who needs a little hope today.
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E2 – “The Moment I Took Responsibility”
Ep 2 – “The Moment I Took Responsibility”In this second episode of Push Each Other to the Top, Brent shares the turning point that changed everything: when he realized he was the problem — and that was the beginning of hope. Step 2 isn’t about instant belief in God; it’s about becoming willing to believe that change is possible. Brent and Jonathan unpack what “insanity” means in addiction, how belief can begin with honesty, and why taking ownership opens the door to healing. This is a conversation about breaking cycles, getting real, and taking the first honest step toward recovery.🔗 Stay Connected & Keep Climbing 🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts 🎧 Also on Spotify 📺 Watch full episodes on YouTube 🌐 Visit us at PushEachOtherToTheTop.com📧 Email us - we would love to hear from you!🙏 If this episode spoke to you, share it with someone who needs a little hope today.
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E1 – "I Was Spiritually Bankrupt"
Ep 1 – "I Was Spiritually Bankrupt"This debut episode of 'Push Each Other to the Top' features Jonathan and his biological father Brent sharing a raw and powerful account of Brent's life. From early struggles with addiction, overcoming a traumatic past, and facing personal demons, Brent narrates his path through alcoholism and drug abuse to his pivotal moment of clarity. The episode touches on themes of resilience, the power of community support, and the transformative journey through the 12 steps of Alcoholics Anonymous. Brent emphasizes the importance of seeking help, extending compassion, and the potential to recover no matter how dire the circumstances.🔗 Stay Connected & Keep Climbing 🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts 🎧 Also on Spotify 📺 Watch full episodes on YouTube 🌐 Visit us at PushEachOtherToTheTop.com📧 Email us - we would love to hear from you!🙏 If this episode spoke to you, share it with someone who needs a little hope today.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Push Each Other to the Top is a podcast about recovery, resilience, and the power of honest conversation.In each episode, Brent shares his journey through addiction, healing, faith, and the long road back — not as an expert, but as someone who’s been there. Host Jonathan listens, asks, and reflects as they explore what it means to fall, and what it takes to climb again.These aren’t polished success stories — they’re raw, real, and full of hope.If you're looking for a podcast that meets you in the mess and helps you move forward, you’re in the right place.
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