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Rookie Pastors Podcast
by Bryan Cawley, Kyle Nieman, Josh Prince, & Dustin Slaton
A Casual Conversation about Real Ministry by Real Pastors
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S2E9: Kingdom Network
Discover how effective networking can transform your ministry and strengthen your community ties in this insightful episode of the Rookie Pastors Podcast. Join Bryan, Kyle, and Josh as they explore the power of building meaningful connections with local leaders, community members, and fellow pastors.Learn practical strategies for expanding your network, from engaging with local businesses and city officials to fostering relationships with other church leaders. Hear real stories of how these connections have opened doors for collaboration, support, and growth, both personally and for their congregations.--Articles mentioned in this episode: “Introverts in the Church: Finding Our Place in an Extroverted Culture” by Adam McHugh and “Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop Talking” by Susan Cain
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S2E8: Holy Leaks and Broken Seats
Unlock the secrets to transforming your church facilities without breaking the bank—discover how pastors can turn deferred maintenance into strategic ministry growth.Bryan, Kyle, and Josh share real stories about the costly lessons from neglected roofs, outdated carpets, and inaccessible spaces—and how these challenges can become opportunities for renewal. You'll learn practical strategies for assessing deferred maintenance, communicating needs effectively, and rallying your congregation around shared goals.
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S2E7: Mission Trip Blueprint
Most pastors feel the pressure to constantly "go and do" missions—but what if the secret to lasting impact is doing less, but doing it smarter? In this eye-opening episode, Kyle Nieman teams up with pastors Bryan Cawley and Josh Prince to reveal how to build a long-term, sustainable missional culture that actually lasts beyond your tenure. Discover why quick wins and strategic partnerships are game-changers and how asking the right questions can ignite your church’s missional heartbeat.
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S2E6: Christmas Roundtable
In this episode of the Rookie Pastors Podcast, the hosts engage in a light-hearted discussion about their Christmas traditions, including the most important of all, the RPP hat exchange. The group then share insights on navigating attendance dips during the holiday season, emphasizing the importance of community and connection.
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S2E5: Thick Skin, Tender Hearts
In this episode of the Rookie Pastors podcast, hosts Josh Prince, Kyle Nieman, and Bryan Cawley engage in a candid discussion about the realities of ministry, focusing on the challenges of handling criticism while maintaining a tender heart and thick skin. They share personal anecdotes about odd church interactions, the importance of self-care, and practical strategies for discerning constructive criticism from negativity. The conversation emphasizes the need for resilience, perspective, and encouragement in the face of adversity, reminding listeners that their identity is rooted in Christ, not in the opinions of others.
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S2E4: Essential Non-Seminary Skills for Pastors
Have you ever been in a situation where you thought, "No one ever told me what to do if this happens." There are innumerable skills a pastor has to have, most of which they never teach in a seminary class. In this episode of the RPP, Bryan, Josh, and Dustin discuss non-seminary skills every pastor needs to have.
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S2E3: Beyond the Potluck
In this episode, hosts Kyle, Dustin, and Josh talk about one of the most exciting—and challenging—aspects of ministry: planning special events at your church. From community outreaches to church-wide celebrations, we discuss how to make sure your events do more than fill a calendar—they advance your church’s mission.If you’ve ever felt the pressure of planning an event that matters, this conversation will give you practical insight, encouragement, and a few lessons learned along the way.ResourcesEven Planning Document: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EPqesGpqzl-F9FrylKzp0oRfiAzPZgaY/view?usp=share_link
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S2E2: Using AI in Your Ministry
In this episode, hosts Dustin, Kyle, and Bryan dive into one of the most talked-about topics today—artificial intelligence—and how it intersects with ministry. We discuss the ethics of using AI as a pastor, the potential benefits and pitfalls, and share practical tips for using it effectively in sermon prep, administration, and communication. Did we use AI to help write this description? Yeah, we did. Whether you’re curious, cautious, or already experimenting with AI tools, this conversation will help you think wisely and strategically about how technology can serve (and not replace) faithful ministry.Tools mentioned in today's episode:ChatGPTSermon Research ProSpeechifyCaptionKit
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S2E1: What To Do When You Cracker Barrel Your Church
In this episode of Rookie Pastors, the hosts discuss their summer experiences and delve into the recent rebranding attempt by Cracker Barrel, which sparked controversy and backlash. They share personal 'Cracker Barrel moments' from their ministry, reflecting on changes that were met with resistance. The conversation emphasizes the importance of communication, evaluation, and learning from failure in church leadership. The hosts highlight that while change can be uncomfortable, it often leads to growth and deeper understanding of the congregation.
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Ep. 18: Raising the Bar in Ministry Areas
In Episode 18, hosts Dustin, Kyle, and Josh dive into the challenge of raising the bar in ministry areas without causing burnout or discouragement. How do you evaluate what’s working, what needs to change, and how to bring people along in the process?We share practical strategies for leading well through improvement, offering encouragement and vision while helping ministry teams grow and thrive. If you're looking to take your church's ministries to the next level in a healthy, sustainable way, this conversation is for you.
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Ep. 17: Shifting Your Church to a Modern Aesthetic
In Episode 17, hosts Josh, Dustin, and Bryan tackle a practical but often overlooked topic: how pastors can lead their churches in managing facilities well—especially when dealing with aging buildings.From updating aesthetics and improving curb appeal to making the most of limited budgets and volunteer help, we share realistic strategies for stewarding church spaces in a way that reflects excellence, hospitality, and mission.Whether your building is decades old or just in need of a refresh, this episode offers helpful tips and encouragement for making the most of what you’ve got.
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Ep. 16: Engaging with Community
In Episode 16, hosts Kyle, Josh, and Bryan explore how pastors can lead their churches to actively engage with their communities. We dive into practical strategies for casting vision, creating opportunities, and leading by example when it comes to outreach and local involvement.If you’re looking for ways to help your church step outside its walls and make a meaningful impact, this episode is full of helpful insights and encouragement.
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Ep. 15: Handling Personal Struggles While Leading Others
In this episode, hosts Bryan and Josh have an honest conversation about navigating personal struggles while continuing to lead in ministry. As pastors, we’re often expected to be strong for others—but what happens when we’re the ones wrestling with mental, emotional, or spiritual challenges?We talk through practical ways to care for your own well-being while still faithfully serving, how to seek support, and why vulnerability and balance are key to long-term health in ministry.
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Ep14: Caring for Your Church in Challenging Times
In this episode, hosts Josh, Kyle, and Dustin dive into what it means to care for your church during difficult seasons. Whether it’s a crisis, conflict, or uncertainty, pastors and church leaders are called to shepherd well through it all. We discuss practical ways to show care for your congregation while also prioritizing your own spiritual and mental health in the process.Ministry isn’t easy, but you don’t have to navigate tough seasons alone. Join us for this honest and encouraging conversation!
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Ep13: The Power of Delegation
In this episode, hosts Kyle, Josh, and Bryan explore the power of delegation in pastoral leadership. Why is delegation so essential for healthy ministry? What happens when pastors try to do everything themselves? We dive into the importance of empowering others, building healthy teams, and avoiding the common pitfalls that come when delegation is neglected—both for the pastor and the church.If you’ve ever struggled with letting go or wondered how to lead more effectively by equipping others, this conversation is for you.
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Ep12: Adapting to the Big Chair
All four hosts—Kyle, Dustin, Josh, and Bryan—are together for a roundtable discussion on what it’s like stepping into the "big chair" as a pastor for the first time. From the challenges of leadership to the unexpected lessons learned along the way, we share personal experiences, insights, and practical advice for those navigating their first pastoral role. Whether you're a new pastor, aspiring leader, or just curious about the transition into ministry leadership, this conversation is for you!
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Ep11: Maintaining Spiritual Health as a Pastor
In this episode, hosts Dustin, Josh, and Bryan dive into an important yet often overlooked topic:maintaining spiritual health as a pastor. Ministry can be demanding, and it’s easy for pastors to pour into others while neglecting their own spiritual well-being. We discuss practical ways to stay spiritually refreshed, avoid burnout, and cultivate a deep, personal walk with Christ while leading others.
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Ep10: Casting Vision Pt. 3 - Communicating the Vision w/ Jonathan Smith
In this episode, hosts Dustin and Bryan are joined by special guest Jonathan Smith, Director of Church Health and Growth with Texas Baptists, as we wrap up our three-part series on casting vision. This week, we dive into the crucial step of communicating the vision—how to share it effectively, inspire others, and create lasting momentum in the church. Whether you're a pastor, ministry leader, or simply passionate about church growth, this conversation is packed with insights to help you lead with clarity and purpose.
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Ep9: Casting Vision Pt. 2 - Knowing if the Church is Ready
In this episode, we explore how pastors can discern if their church is ready for a new vision. From recognizing signs of readiness to addressing potential resistance, we share practical advice and insights to help pastors lead their congregations through transformative change.
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Ep8: Christmas Time Is Here
In this special Christmas episode, all four hosts come together for a fun gift exchange and an honest conversation about navigating the unique challenges and joys of the holiday season as pastors.
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Ep7: Casting Vision Pt. 1 - Preparing For Change
In this episode, Josh, Kyle, and Dustin kick off a 3-part series on casting vision for church revitalization. They begin by exploring how to prepare a church for change, sharing practical steps and insights to lay a strong foundation for transformation.Recommended Resources:Leading Major Change in Your Ministry-Jeff Iorg: https://amzn.to/49qmxhXTo Dream Again-Robert Dale: https://amzn.to/3OO2oc4Church Planting is for Wimps-Mike McKinley: https://amzn.to/3D8s9BcWho Moved my Pulpit-Thom Rainer: https://amzn.to/41nMU5V
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Ep6: Handling Conflict
In this episode, Josh, Kyle, and Dustin discuss the challenges of handling conflict as pastors, sharing strategies and personal experiences on leading through difficult conversations and building unity in the church.Check out this episodes mentioned resource: The Reluctant Peacemaker by Bruce McCoy https://amzn.to/48XVuu7
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Ep5: Sermon Prep and Preaching Calendar
Join Dustin, Josh, and Kyle as they dive into their weekly routines for sermon prep and share insights on how they approach planning a sermon calendar for the year ahead.Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Talk Like Ted by Carmine Gallo: https://amzn.to/3YrmRaYOn Preaching by HB Charles: https://amzn.to/3Yq8Yd3Preaching that Moves People by Yancy Arrington: https://amzn.to/3YL2ya0Power in the Pulipt by Jerry Vines & Jim Shaddix: https://amzn.to/40m8hEkGrasping God's Word by Scott Duvall & Daniel Hays: https://amzn.to/3UAbuwa
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Ep4: Balancing Family Life & Ministry
A challenge for every pastor is maintaining the balance between family life and ministry life. Both take time, and neither fit within a "normal" schedule. Josh, Bryan, and Dustin give some insights into how the rookie pastor can set some boundaries to fulfill their ministry and lead their family well.
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Ep3: Surviving Your First Year as Pastor
In this episode, Kyle, Josh, and Bryan reflect on their first year as pastors. They share candid stories about the ups, downs, and unexpected challenges they faced as they navigated their new roles in ministry.
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Ep2: How do I Become Their Pastor?
In Episode 3, join Bryan, Kyle, and Dustin as they discuss the importance of relationships in the early days of your ministry at the church, how being there in a time of crisis can strengthen your role as Pastor, and learning how to steward the leadership capital that you gain.
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Ep1: Welcome to the Rookie Pastors Podcast!
In this first episode of the Rookie Pastors Podcast, you'll meet the hosts and hear the heart behind why we feel like this podcast is needed. We welcome you into our circle so that you know you're NOT alone in this thing called pastoral ministry.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
A Casual Conversation about Real Ministry by Real Pastors
HOSTED BY
Bryan Cawley, Kyle Nieman, Josh Prince, & Dustin Slaton
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