SASFAA's Swoonpies and Money

Welcome to a special weekend edition of Swoonpies and Money. This episode is devoted entirely to a powerful message: sobriety is not a weakness or a sacrifice; it is a bold, life-affirming choice that requires courage, honesty, and daily commitment.Host Sam Dunman sits down with guest Christine Harvey for a candid and reflective conversation on healing, and the importance of having a strong community—one that holds you accountable, supports you through challenges, and reminds you that you’re never navigating the journey alone. Together, they explore how even simple practices like intentional breathing can ground you in difficult moments and help you regain control. In this light, sobriety becomes more than an individual’s path; it’s a journey strengthened by connection, self-awareness, and small, powerful tools that make lasting change possible.

To open the show, we’re joined by Emily Baldwin, who’s here to preview the upcoming New Aid Officer’s Workshop, SASFAA’s annual training opportunity designed to help new financial aid professionals build their knowledge, confidence, and sense of community.Emily also highlights GASFAA’s featured conference charity, Open Paws Food Pantry. It is dedicated to supportingstudents at Augusta University facing food insecurity, Open Paws is working to ensure no student has to choose between their education and their next meal. You’ll find links to support the Food Pantry below.Then, we dive into a conversation with Will Shaffner, who shares what he’s hearing inside the Beltway and what may lie ahead for higher education policy and shifting institutional trends.And just when you think you’ve deciphered Will's news, Sam Hicks and her merry band of sci-fi aficionados take things in acompletely different direction, keeping you up at night with a lively discussion of Dungeon Crawler Carl.Two ways to support Open Paws Food Pantry: Open Paws Pantry: https://www.augusta.edu/student-affairs/open-paws.php Also, an Amazon Wishlist to donate: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/39DXVQ4L6Q1LY?ref_=wl_share

In today’s episode, Bill is thrilled (and maybe a little relieved!) to welcome back co-host Michelle Gunnin, formerly Michelle Hemmer, returning from leave after welcoming baby Hana into the world in February. We’re so glad to have her back.Our featured segment is last week’s conversation with Aaron Lemon-Strauss, Executive Director of the FAFSA program, recorded live on the SASFAA YouTube channel. If you missed it, we’ve got the full audio here, covering the critical topic of fraud mitigation in financial aid, as well as other breakthroughinitiatives from our FSA colleagues.You’ll also hear a couple of quick announcements: a reminder that SASFAA’s New Aid Officers Workshop rate increases soon, and for our Georgia friends, a call to submit your charity auction items for the upcoming GASFAA conference.And finally, the really cool big news, we’re now on social media! The Swoonies are late to the party, but we brought snacks. Let's party like it's 2011!Now on Facebook & Instagram! Follow Swoonpies & Money and engage with your SASFAA colleagues while listening to the podcast, because the best conversations don’t end when the episode does.https://www.instagram.com/sasfaapodcast https://www.facebook.com/swoonpiesandmoney

In this episode, we take you inside the recent Virginia Association conference held in Norfolk, highlighting the shared experiences that connect members across the SASFAA region. Even if you’re from Florida, South Carolina, or Tennessee, no matter where you are, the challenges are basically the same. Different states but same OB3, same deadlines, and same whiplash announcements.This conference had a little bit of everything. An escape room (because nothing says, “professional development” like "get me out of here!"), leadership lessons from behind the Dungeons & Dragons dungeon master screen, and plenty of creative ways people manage stress—think Scottish country dancing, baking side gigs, and concert-hopping road trips.Most importantly, we hear from VASFAA President Loretta Jones, who shares insights about the association’s charitable efforts supporting Bobby’s Pit Bull Rescue and Sanctuary in Spotsylvania County. Also, Loretta honors several VASFAA members whose hard work and dedication have made a lasting impact on the association.  This episode is a reminder that while the work we do can be challenging, the people in SASFAA bring creativity, resilience, and a strong sense of community to everything they do.

Today’s episode is all about community, connection, and the energy that makes this profession so special. We’re taking you inside the recent Alabama Financial Aid Association Conference, held just a couple of weeks ago in Huntsville. AASFAA may be small, but it punches well above its weight; you can feel it in the leadership, hear it in the conversations, and see it in the camaraderie that carries throughout their annual conference.We’ll kick things off with a meaningful conversation around the association’s charitable work with the Alzheimer’s Association. Then, we’ll take you around the room, checking in with attendees and sponsors to capture the pulse of the conference, before wrapping up with AASFAA President Jamie Burt from the University of Alabama.In addition, today we give you a quick look at what’s coming up on Swoonpies and Money: this week, Daniel Barkowitz sits down with FAFSA Program Executive Director Aaron Lemon-Strauss to break down new fraud-detection strategies and identity verification updates from the Department of Education. In the coming weeks, we’ve got more conference coverage from Virginia, a conversation with Dr. Happy focusing on mindset and holistic recovery, then Sam Hicks and friends continue to explore the question “What keeps you up at night?” with a deep dive into Dungeon Crawler Carl.

We’ve got breaking news and an important programming note—this is a Swoonpies and Money exclusive.Following our recent live coverage of the FSA Conference on SASFAA’s YouTube channel, we’re bringing you another can’t miss conversation. Mark your calendars for April 22nd at 4:00 PM, when we’ll be joined by FAFSA Program Executive Director Aaron Lemon-Strauss. Along with Daniel Barkowitz, he’ll dive into the Department of Education’s latest efforts to crack down on financial aid fraud, including new detection strategies, enhanced identity verification measures, and what these changes mean for financial aid professionals and the students they serve.Regarding today’s episode, we kick things off with an introduction recorded live at the recent Alabama conference, featuring special guest co-host Joan Bailey.Next, Emily Baldwin returns with a follow-up to her recent medical school panel. She’s joined by Johnathan Chancellor (AAMC) and Veronica Herrera (Experian) to explore the growing importance of consumer credit, especially in light of pending OB3 changes and its impact on student loans.Finally, we take a closer look at innovation in action with an overview of the NASFAA AI Task Force. Task force leader Sam Hicks sits down with fellow members Celena Tulloss and Wayne Kruger to discuss their plans.Please enjoy this episode. And again, be sure to join us live on April 22nd at 4:00 PM right here to hear our interview with Aaron Lemon-Strauss, EXCLUSIVELY on Swoonpies and Money!

This deeply moving episode returns to a theme we first introduced Swoonpies and Money last year: sharing perspectives that reach beyond financial aid and the rhythms of our daily routines. It centers on the human experience of living with cancer, told through one person's extraordinary and transformative journey. Samantha Dunman (aka Dr. Happy) sits down with a three-time cancer survivor whose story is not defined by fear, but by courage, resilience, and profound self-discovery.Rather than focusing on clinical details, their conversation unfolds the emotional and spiritual landscape of a life interrupted yet awakened by diagnosis. Together, they explore what it means to face reality without labeling it as “good” or “bad,” but instead meeting each moment with honesty and grace.This is a conversation about standing in the unknown and choosing faith anyway. About finding stillness in the chaos, presence in the pain, and meaning in every breath. It’s a powerful reminder that even in life’s most uncertain moments, there is beauty to be found, and that simply being alive is, in itself, a gift.

We’re wrapping up our SASFAA conference coverage. In this final episode, you’ll hear one of our favorite moments: walking through breakfast, chatting with attendees, getting their takeaways, and shoutouts back at the office.You also hear from Dr. Happy and what’s ahead with the podcast. And then Katie’s acceptance speech and a few final thoughts from Joan.And to wrap it all up, there’s a short epilogue recorded after the conference, where we catch up with Melissa Smith and Chad Sartini, our conference chairs, to reflect on the past year and their leadership of the committee and producing this fabulous event.In addition to the latest episode, we’ve included links to days 1 and 2. This will allow you to binge the conference on your next road trip.S3:E2: SASFAA Conference Day 2 - The 2026 Swoonie Awards! Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6R3EHVwTE1GWH3oXaSNi7n?si=7UIaeynaR_uDBAmIcGu3hA Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/s3-e2-sasfaa-conference-day-2-the-2026-swoonie-awards/id1807406753?i=1000756363274 SASFAA Conference Day 1Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/7t7gYzbcHYPzg8AE8gPY4o?si=oVQmWIMVT4G4MqW0aKt_0Q Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/s3-e1-sasfaa-annual-conference-day-1/id1807406753?i=1000755656119

In this episode, we’re bringing you something special, the 2026 Swoonie Award ceremony.Recorded live during day 2 of the SASFAA conference luncheon, this is our association’s version of the Oscars, but better; the Oscars don’t have name badges, conference chicken, and OB3 updates.We start this episode with Bill and Sam Hicks breaking down how the awards came together and then you’ll hear a recording from the stage with no pomp and very little circumstance: nominations, presentations, winners. There was no red carpet. No paparazzi. Nothing for TMZ to overanalyze. Seriously, there are no videos and few pictures of the ceremony. Which means there’s almost no record of this event even happening, except this episode.So, if you’ve ever wanted to say “I was there” without actually being there… this is your chance.

Welcome to Swoon Pies and Money, Season 3. That’s right, we’re starting our third season. Why? Because we can. The Swoonpies team has been on the road for the last month, covering the NASFAA Leadership and Legislative Conference, the SASFAA Annual Conference, and our live coverage of the FSA Conference. Many of you completed the trifecta along with us, so you know that being out of the office that long requires checking in with your boss and acknowledging your day job. We’re no different here at Swoon Pies — which means we’ve got a bit of a backlog when it comes to cranking out the podcast. Now, about Season 3, we’re starting, appropriately, with our most celebrated event of the year: the Annual Conference. We gathered so much great content at this year's conference that we’re spreading it across three episodes. Today, we’re starting with Day One. First, you’ll hear from Lynn Ivy, founder of The Ivy, the conference charity selected by Joan. This is a remarkable organization that supports people living with neurodegenerative diseases like dementia, Parkinson’s, and Alzheimer’s — and it also creates a space for their caregivers to connect with one another. Then we’ll feature conversations with several conference attendees:Rachelle Feldman, our Legislative Chair;Celena Tulloss, winner of the NASFAA Regional Leadership Award;Zita Barree, winner of the SASFAA Honorary Lifetime Membership Award;The current and soon-to-be presidents of the Florida Association, Egan Hansonand Arminta Johnson. And we’ll introduce you to Dee Dee Carter from UNC Greensboro, a reminder that one of the benefits of any conference is the chance to sit down at lunch or dinner with someone you don’t know, start a conversation, and walk away with a new friend.

We did it! Three days of live stream coverage of the FSA conference.Today, we were joined by two well-known financial aid veterans: Helen Faith, University of Virginia, and Art Young, a SASFAA adoptee from the University of Arizona. Together with Daniel, they shared insights from the conference including leadership strategies, technical updates, and the value of community engagement.

The obscure show tune is Daniel's attempt at pop culture relevance. That, combined with our "RAP" up from FSA day 2, is worth sticking around for the next 58 minutes.  Today, we were joined by two SASFAA luminaries and Swoonpies favorites, Katie Conrad and Brad Barnett. Guided by Daniel, they gave a thoughtful and detailed review of today's program. Grab some popcorn and enjoy FSA Day 2.

"I wanna be in the room where it happens"...well we were. You are about to hear our live coverage from the FSA conference. Daniel and a couple of special guests, new friends of Swoonpies and Money, break down everything from Day 1 of the FSA Conference.It’s our first-ever livestream. It’s unfiltered and a little tech-adventurous.Thanks for joining us in the FSA room where it happens with us.

The FSA Conference is happening in Washington D.C. from March 4-6, 2026. Swoonpies and Money will be broadcasting every day from the conference. In this short episode hear from Daniel and Bill on what you can expect from our coverage.

This is Part 2 of our NASFAA Leadership and Legislative Conference coverage. Hopefully you caught Part 1 last week.We rolled the dice and tried something different at the conference. Instead of just hearing me report, we handed microphones to our Swoon Pies regulars — Sam Hicks, Emily Baldwin, and Daniel Barkowitz— and sent them straight into the crowd.No script. No safety net. Just real conversations.You’re about to hear ten quick hits from the floor featuring Alex Delonis, Leigh Ann Hussey, Dr. Wanda Pickens, Celena Tellus, Samantha Hitchcock, Rosa Thomas, Wendy Owens, Audrey Price, Katie Stevens… and yes, even Ben Affleck.But before we dive in, a quick show update.The much-anticipated FSA Conference and gathering in Washington, D.C., is this week. As you know, it came together quickly, and there’s a lot of anticipation about the direction and guidance we’re going to get.If there’s breaking news, we’ll be there.Swoonpies and Money will be covering it live — bringing you daily updates and conversations with whoever stops by our remote studio. Assuming the tech gods cooperate, we’ll keep you posted all week long.Watch for a SASFAA update with broadcast times and details.Alright — let’s get into it.

The Swoonpies crew has been on the road for the past couple of weeks at the NASFAA Leadership & Legislative Conference, held somewhere just south of the Arctic Circle… also known as Washington, D.C., and then straight on to our own annual conference, which just wrapped in Charlotte.We’re kicking off our LLC coverage today with Part 1 of a two-part series. In this episode, you’ll hear conversations recorded on the ground at Leadership — the insights, the strategy, and yes, a little bit of the news that only happens when financial aid professionals gather in one place to talk policy and the future of our work. Part 2 is coming your way in just a couple of days.First up, you will hear from Melanie Storey, NASFAA’s President & CEO, with a thoughtful conversation about leadership and advocacy. Then we’re joined by Allie Arcese, NASFAA’s Senior Director of Strategic Communications, to unpack messaging, Off-The-Cuff origins, and what it really takes to move the needle in D.C.We close out with Emily Osborn, Senior Director of Financial Aid at Western Governors University, who presented in the Strategic Enrollment Management track at Leadership. And I strongly recommend you listen all the way to the end because Emily takes us from OB3 to Icelandic traditions and Nordic folklore. I promise you, that kind of content whiplash exists in exactly one place… and that’s Swoonpies and Money.

Over the past two episodes, we’ve spent significant timediscussing how institutions across the SASFAA community are preparing for OB3, sharing practical perspectives as we move toward the July 1 implementation date. We’ll continue to highlight insights on the legislation in the weeksahead.This week, however, we’re stepping away from OB3and returning to one of our core segments, “How I Got Here,” moderated by Emily Baldwin.In today’s episode, Emily speaks with Sherika Charity fromNorthern Virginia Community College and Megan Schumeyer from Virginia Tech. Longtime listeners will recognize this segment as a conversation between a mentor and mentee, illustrating how SASFAA members from differentinstitutions support one another throughout their financial aid careers.We invite you to sit back and enjoy this personal perspective on mentorship, shared experience, and professional growth.

As we unpack the NPRM, the countdown to OB3 and the need for preparation is getting real. In this episode, Kate Brabandt of College Aid Services led a candid panel discussion focused on what institutions should be doing now to get ready.Kate is joined by a group of seasoned financial aid leaders: Dr. Heather Boutell (Vanderbilt University), Brenda Hicks (Southwestern College), and Audra Main (Moore Norman Technology Center). Together, they examine proposed changes related to federal loan programs, Workforce Pell eligibility, repayment plans, and expanded institutional accountability requirements across varied institution types.Programming note: The College Aid Services webinar was presented prior to the NPRM publication, with many details still unknown. Notwithstanding, the observations on operational readiness and compliance considerations to staffing, communication, and change management are firmlygrounded in what campuses are facing. Whether you’re deep in planning or still figuring out where to start, this episode offers actionable insights to help your team face OB3 with clarity and confidence.

Today’s episode is about the elephant in the room, OB3. And let’s be clear: this isn’t a subtle elephant. It’s enormous, standing on the table, demanding the attention of everyone in higher education. No one can pretend they don’t see it.Emily Baldwin moderates a powerhouse panel on how medical schools are managing the rollout of OB3, and what it means for incoming classes and institutions. She’s joined by Joan Bailey from the University of South Florida, Dr. Heather Boutell of Vanderbilt University, Johnathan Chancellor from the Association of American Medical Colleges (AAMC), Veronica Herrera with Experian, Dr. Mark Justice from the University of Miami, and Dr. Holly Gilliam from the University of South Carolina.The conversation gets straight to the point: institutional communication strategy, enrollment impact, operational and systems strain, and why private loans, and the immediate need for credit education, are suddenly front and center. If OB3 is anywhere on your agenda, you don’t want to miss this conversation, just like you can’t miss that elephant!

Today, we share another of our "How I Got Here" segments led by Emily Baldwin. This series features experienced and upcoming SASFAA leaders as they provide insights into their career journeys to help other SASFAA members uncovertheirs. In this episode, Emily is joined by two outstanding financial aid professionals and SASFAA members, Jernitha Smith, Director of Financial Aid and Veteran Affairs at USC Sumter, and Zachary Christian, Deputy Director at the South Carolina Higher Education Tuition Grants Commission.

We’re kicking off the new year with a reset, a little transparency, and a lot to talk about. Before we dive in, a fun fact from our listener survey: most likely you’re listening to Swoonpies & Money right now from your office. Your productivity is not our responsibility!This episode starts with you. We’re sharing the results of our recent listener survey and giving an up-to-date snapshot of who our audience actually is, who’s here, how you found us, and what you want more (and less) of as we move into the year ahead.Then we get into pop culture. We’re reviewing Season 2 of Severance—what worked, what didn’t, and why it remains one of the sharpest, strangest shows about work, power, and identity. Emily and Willis have thoughts. And finally, the best part, we’re sharing some genuinely exciting news from co-host Michelle Hemmer. It’s big, it’s joyful, and worth celebrating.

Welcome to the Swoonpies holiday episode. The Swoonie crewis ringing in the season at the Swoonpies and Money holiday party, attempting (and we use that term loosely) to sing “The 12 Days of SASmas.” Expect off-key caroling, inside jokes, and plenty of festive nonsense. Cheers to recording with no rehearsal! 12 Days of SASmas lyrics: On the first day of Sas-MAS, SwoonPies gave to meDISTRACTION  from OB3. On the second day of Sas-MAS, Swoonpies gave to metwo-member highlights,and distraction from OB3. On the third day of Sas-MAS, Swoonpies gave to methree conference charities,two-member highlights,and distraction from OB3. On the fourth day of Sas-MAS, Swoonpies gave to meFour Jedi heroes,three conference charities,two-member highlights,and distraction from OB3. On the fifth day of Sas-MAS, Swoonpies gave to me5 private loansFour Jedi heroes,three conference charities,two-member highlights,and distraction from OB3. On the sixth day of Sas-MAS, Swoonpies gave to meSix negs a-regging,FIVE PRIVATE LOANS!Four Jedi heroes,three conference charities,two-member highlights,and distraction from OB3. On the seventh day of Sas-MAS, Swoonpies gave to meadvice from Dr. Happy,Six negs a-regging,FIVE PRIVATE LOANS!Four Jedi heroes,three conference charities,two-member highlights,and distraction from OB3. On the eighth day of Sas-MAS, Swoonpies gave to meEight Hooty-Whos,advice from Dr. Happy,Six negs a-regging,FIVE PRIVATE LOANS!Four Jedi heroes,three conference charities,two-member highlights,and distraction from OB3. On the ninth day of Sas-MAS, Swoonpies gave to menine states supporting,Eight Hooty-Whos,advice from Dr. Happy,Six negs a-regging,FIVE PRIVATE LOANS!Four Jedi heroes,three conference charities,two-member highlights,and distraction from OB3. On the tenth day of Sas-MAS, Swoonpies gave to meten Baldwin mentors,nine states supporting,Eight Hooty-Whos,advice from Dr. Happy,Six negs a-regging,FIVE PRIVATE LOANS!Four Jedi heroes,three conference charities,two-member highlights,and distraction from OB3. On the eleventh day of Sas-MAS, Swoonpies gave to meJoan Baily’s pearls of wisdom,ten Baldwin mentors,nine states supporting,Eight Hooty-Whos,advice from Dr. Happy,Six negs a-regging,FIVE PRIVATE LOANS!Four Jedi heroes,three conference charities,two-member highlights,and distraction from OB3. On the twelfth day of Sas-MAS, Swoonpies gave to meSAM’S LATE NIGHT RAMBLINGS,Joan Baily’s pearls of wisdom,ten Baldwin mentors,nine states supporting,Eight Hooty-Whos,advice from Dr. Happy,Six negs a-regging,FIVE PRIVATE LOANS!Four Jedi heroes,three conference charities,two-member highlights,and distraction from OB3!

It’s time for a quick check-in with the Swoonpies Nation. We want to make sure we’re hitting our marks and giving you the content you want to hear. As you know, the SASFAA podcast was launched for members by members, so please take a few minutes to complete the survey and let us know how we’re doing. You can follow the link or keep an eye out for other announcements from the mothership (a.k.a. SASFAA updates).Swoonpies Listener Satisfaction Surveyhttps://bit.ly/swoonpies-surveyIn this episode, we dive into the highlights from the recent FAFSAA Directors Summit with Alicia Keaton. We’re also joined by Dr. Happy, Sam Dunman, who brings us a fascinating conversation with Mary Preston Jackson, a certified spinal flow practitioner helping people reconnect with their body’s innate intelligence and natural healing ability.

This week, we’re joined by some very special guests who are bringing more than just their appetites — they’re sharing their favorite Thanksgiving dishes, the stories behind them, and the memories that make those recipes so meaningful.And because gratitude comes in all flavors, our guests are also opening up about what they’re most thankful for this year — from simple joys to quirky holiday dining habits that somehow became family traditions.Of course, this wouldn’t be Swoonpies and Money without a little twist. After the feature episode, you’re getting the behind-the-scenes version — the rehearsal, with all the laughter, the tangents, and maybe even a few culinarymisfires. Think of it like that bonus episode after your favorite streaming show — the one with outtakes, inside jokes, and just enough frivolity to keep things real.So grab a slice of pie, pull up a chair, and join us for a Thanksgiving special that’s part gratitude, part good-natured mischief, and 100% Swoonpies and Money.

This week, we’re taking you straight back to chilly Charleston for a full-on SCASFAA Conference retrospective. From OB3 to lip syncing (and everything in between), this episode is a joyful rewind through the sessions, shenanigans, and shared spirit that make South Carolina’s financial aid community one of a kind.You don’t have to be from the Palmetto State to feel the energy. Tune in for a rerun packed with camaraderie, laughter, and the unmistakable heartbeat of your South Carolina colleagues.As they say at SCASFAA, we’re small but mighty.

Today, we have another delightfully eclectic episode of Swoonpies and Money. This one’s a true hodgepodge.First up, a public service announcement about the upcoming SASFAA webinar on November 18, featuring NASFAA MVP Heather Boutell. Then you’ll hear highlights from the recent KASFAA Kentucky Conference and finish with a quick chat with Samantha Hitchcock, President-Elect of GASFAA.And finally—because it wouldn’t be Swoonpies and Money without a something out of left field—we’ll wrap up with details on the Beaver Moon Swoon Pie Satisfaction Survey. Yes, it’s a thing. You’ll just have to listen.

Welcome to a special edition of Swoonpies and Money. Today, we’re peeling back the curtain on one of the most consequential—and misunderstood—rituals in higher education policymaking: negotiated rulemaking. Think of “Neg Reg” as the Department of Education’s version of group therapy—except instead of talking feelings, they’re hashing out the fine print of federal regulations that will have a profound impact on all of us.To help make sense of it all, Daniel Barkowitz sits down with two of the appointed negotiators who’ve been in the room trying to shape the future of higher education policy. And because every federal rule eventually lands on a campus doorstep, we’ll also check in with the good folks at Mercer University for a ground-level view of how OBBA is starting to ripple through their operations. So, settle in for this timely episode of Swoonpies and Money—where big policy meets campus reality, and the sausage-making of higher ed gets a little sunlight.

This episode is reminder that SASFAA always has your back, both figuratively and literally. Today you'll hear from Samantha Dunman, aka Dr. Happy, in our Health and Wellness segment on spine health and stress relief. Whether you're sitting at a desk all day, recovering from an injury, or just trying to feel better, your spine is at the center of it all.Then Sam Hicks, aka Dr. Hicks, discusses how to maintain a strong financial backbone with Brad Barnett in our What Keeps You Up at Night segment. Yes, we know, that’s not a book or movie, but who hasn’t lost a little sleep worrying about money.

In this episode of Swoonpies and Money, we sit down with Amy Barrier, founder of Financial Aid Follies—the unofficial heartbeat of our profession. Amy joins us to share how humor, heart, and a bit of well-placed creativity can bring our community together and remind us why we love this work in the first place. Humble royalty was in the studio, and yes, it shows.Then, over at the Fantasy Desk, where we cover all things Star Wars. We could do ten episodes in a row on Star Wars and still not make it to Tatooine.And, you’ll have to endure Bill’s sophomoric rambling about Shakespeare, because every episode needs at least one tangent no one asked for.S2E2 is a mix of humor, humanity, and hyperspace—an episode that reminds us why this professional community works hard, laughs loud, and is like no other.

Grab your favorite beverage or steering wheel, and help us kick off Season 2—bigger, bolder, and still flying proudly by the seat of our pants.A new season, but same lineup, and even more of an unpredictable mix of insight, laughter, and occasional serious stuff you’ve come to expect. We’re kicking Season 2 off with one of our signature segments—Emily Baldwin’s critically acclaimed “How I Got Here” feature. This week showcases Brenda Ilojiole and Daniel Barkowitz. It’s a thoughtful, inspiring start to the season, with insights and perspectives that remind us why we love this profession.And to close out our premiere, I’ll be joined by Sam Hicks, who offers a sneak peek at her upcoming SASFAA Webinar on AI Applications in the Financial Aid Office—a timely look at how technology is reshaping the way we serve students.Of course, it wouldn’t be Swoonpies and Money without banter from our studio lunchroom. You’ll get to eavesdrop on my chat with Josh, SASFAA’s weather guy, as he’s removed from double secret probation and given a promotion and raise here at the podcast.

Well, we made it, 13 episodes in, and somehow the wheels haven’t completely fallen off. The podcast made it through its first season — and not just survived but thrived. That’s right, folks: one remarkably successful season in the books, and we’re just getting warmed up.In today’s episode, you’ll hear Celena Tulloss reflect on her remarkable time on SASFAA Board.  Then we’ll check in with a few of the past state presidents, as they roll off their respective boards. And finally, you’ll get to meet members of the Swoonie team as they pull back the curtain, celebratethe wins, and probably overshare just enough to make you squirm.It’s the perfect recipe to wrap up Season 1: a little reflection, a dash of humor, and a big ol’ slice of Swoonpie.

In this episode, we’re shining a spotlight on upcoming SASFAA training events in Charlotte, NC on October 6th. First up, is our conversation with Brenda Brown and Brad Barnett highlighting the Enrollment Management & Legal Issues Forum. EMLIF is designed to help attendees navigate the evolving legal and regulatory landscape while sharpen enrollment management strategy. Registration is still open, and spots are available. To sign up for EMLIF, visit: https://www.sasfaa.org/emlifThen, Michael Morgan joins us to preview the Leadership Symposium, an intensive program created to develop the next generation of leaders in financial aid.And because this is a bonus episode, we’re also bringing you an in-depth interview with SASFAA President Joan Bailey, who shares her vision for the year ahead and why vision, leadership and professional development remain so critical.It’s all packed into this bonus episode—so let’s dive in!

Welcome to Episode 12 of Swoonpies and Money! On ourproduction team, we’ve got two Samanthas: Sam Hicks and Sam Dunman. To keep things straight, we had to hand out a nickname. Sam Hicks, who brings us the segment What Keeps You Up at Night, is already Dr. Sam Hicks. So, SamDunman, our health and wellness expert, was assigned the well-earned title of Dr. Happy.In this episode, Dr. Hicks sits down with Jaime Missimer,Mississippi State President, to review Sunrise on the Reaping, the newest prequel in The Hunger Games series. Meanwhile, Dr. Happy dives into the power of breath with a colleague from the Daytona Beach, FL health and wellness community.For the next 54 minutes, you are in good hands; the Doctors are in the house. Take a deep breath, relax, and enjoy Episode 12 of Swoonpies and Money.

This episode is a must-listen for anyone who has attended or is thinking about signing up for SASFAA’s New Aid Officer Workshop. We’re bringing you all the highlights and stories from the recent workshop in Hub City, a.k.a. Spartanburg, SC.It was the best of times: a one-of-a-kind opportunity for newcomers to Financial Aid to build the foundation for long-term professional success… all while reliving the fun, camaraderie, and high jinks of summer camp. Think of amazingly great karaoke, surprisingly competitive kickball, and even a little badminton — with no broken bones and just a few pulled hamstrings.Tune in and enjoy our take on the experience, and see why NAOW is legendary with certified core memory.

This week, you’ll hear Part 2 of our NASFAA coverage—and yes, it’s just as packed with fun, insights, and amusing moments as Part 1.We kick things off with scenes for the 5K charity run for Higher Ground, where the effort was real and the cause was worth every step. Whether you ran, cheered, or found a strategic viewing spot along the course—we had you covered.Then, it’s time for our first, and last, “Who Is the Coolest Person in Financial Aid?” contest. The nominations were spontaneous, the logic was questionable, and the final verdict… well, you’ll have to hear it to believe it.Finally, you’ll also get a summer weather forecast from Josh (spoiler alert: it’s hot—because of course it is), and just when you thought things with Josh couldn’t get any wackier, we’re interrupted by a surprise visit from a Back to the Future NAOW attendee. Bring your hoverboard.It’s NASFAA Part 2…enjoy!

There was a lot to unpack from the NASFAA Conference in Anaheim. So much, in fact, that we’re bringing it to you in two full episodes. This week, you’ll hear a mashup of highlights from the entire week—the cream of our profession losing their minds at the opening session, unscripted moments, sharp insights, and the unmistakable energy that only the SASFAA travel troupe can bring. And by the way, can you guess which FAA region showed up and stood out? Winner of the 5K race? Trivia team champs? Recipients of all three meritorious achievement awards, and the loudest cheering section at the opening session? Yup. You guessed it, SASFAA took home all the unofficial trophies and left the other associations to wonder, what’s in the water down there? You’ll hear from an All Star SASFAA cast, including Jackie Copeland, Rachelle Feldman, Daniel Barkowitz, Sharon Oliver, Michael Morgan, Sam Hicks, and a breathless Brad Barnett charging to the 5K finish line. We also have soundbites from NASFAA National Chair Kristi Jovell (present then/past now). And it was really no surprise to see the high energy, recently appointed NASFAA President & CEO Melanie Story, begin her public festivities encouraging runners by juggling pom-poms, poster signs, cowbells and a large cup of coffee during the 5k. That was five objects with two hands – I think NASFAA got the right person. And most importantly, you’ll hear an inspiring conversation with Jordan Barrera from Higher Ground, NASFAA’s 2025 selected charity. Her story is the soul of this episode—and a reminder of why the work we do matters. Get ready—NASFAA Part 1 starts now.

Recorded live at the FASFAA Conference, this episode of Swoonpies and Money brings you a mix of vision, reflection, creativity—and yes, with a touch of technical imperfection. Though our gear may have glitched, the FASFAA voices you'll hear cut through with clarity, heart, and purpose.We begin with the talented Lakeisha Sanders, as she rehearses potential podcast intros and outros full of soul and sparkle. Then, we speak with Sylvia Haas, CEO of Opportunity Community Ability, the conference’s featured charity, in a conversation about connection, dignity, and the deeper purpose.From there, we shift into powerful leadership perspectives from Alicia Keaton and David Alexander, followed by a live creative jam session with Shannon Jones and Concepta Williamson, as they workshop a fresh, “sassy” idea for a future segment.We close with a presidential trifecta: President-elect Jessica Ly’s acceptance speech rings out with hope and momentum (gym acoustics and all), and our sit-down with Egan Hansen brings insight, humor, and the occasional unexpected Sand Hill Crane pecking sound, courtesy of our janky AV setup.And finally, we end with a sincere reflection from Past President Mia Mwango, who looks back on her term with grace, gratitude, and vision.So sit down, relax and relive the energy of the FASFAA Conference—one inspiring voice at a time.

Welcome back, Swoonies! The crew is finally home after touring the SASFAA region covering the Spring state association conference roadshow, concluding at Camp SASFAA (aka New Aid Officers Workshop). We’re catching our breath but that doesn’t mean we’re slowing down. In today’s episode, we’re back in the studio with our feature entertainment segments.First up, it’s the second installment of “What Keeps You Up at Night” with Sam Hicks and her guest, Daniel Barkowitz. Today they’re reviewing “She Who Became the Sun”, the epic fantasy novel that’s been lighting up reading lists. From themes and characters to how it connects with the work-life balance we all wrestle with; Sam and Daniel unpack what the book meant to them—and what it might mean for you.Then, we continue with the second installment of “How I Got Here,” hosted by the calm and always cool Emily Baldwin. Today, she sits down with Erica Harrison-Jones from the College of Charleston and Beth Armstrong from Virginia Tech to talk about their paths into leadership, the turning points that shaped them, and the advice they’d offer to anyone charting their own course in financial aid.So, whether you’re commuting, unwinding, or just need a break from the inbox—grab your headphones, hit follow, and share a June Swoon with us.

In this joyful stop on our spring tour of the SASFAA states, Swoonpies and Money dives into the vibrant energy of the recent GASFAA conference at the University of Georgia in Athens. Join host Bill Ayers as he unpacks the positivity radiating from GASFAA President Emmilee Mitchell and the GASFAA membership as they embrace the conference uplifting theme: Choose Joy.This episode is a lively mix of interviews and insights—covering everything from financial aid awareness, NIL, 3D printing, yet more pathetic Wordle obsession talk, and the surprising secret life of a celebrated aid director. Whether you're from Georgia or not, you’re in for 54 minutes of fun, inspiration, and pure Peach State charm. We even managed to nail down Josh, our weather oracle from Kennesaw State.  You'll hear his July 4th forecast and the yawning generational gap between him and Bill.Don’t miss this one—you truly can’t make this stuff up!

The broad reach of Swoonpies and Money is on display in this episode.On one hand, we’re bringing you the highlights, high notes, and heartfelt moments from the Virginia Association Conference, which features keynote speaker, U.S. Representative Bobby Scott, Ranking Member of the House Education & Workforce Committee. A tireless advocate for education and equity, Congressman Scott brought insight, leadership, and clarity to a critical moment in our field. Bill had the honor of sitting down with him for a chat, and you’ll hear it right here.On the flip side, we’re also introducing a brand-new segment—Swoonpie Health and Wellness—featuring the multi-talented Sam Dunman. Her first segment, “What Keeps You Up? Nervous System Healing for Better Sleep,” delivers real tools to calm your system and catch some actual, quality sleep.So press play, tune in and let’s Swoon!

The Swoonies appear to have figured out this podcast thing. Episode #4 marks an actual turning point: the crew has officially shed the opening-week jitters and is clearly having way too much fun behind the mic. Michelle and Bill host a jam-packed lineup of fresh voices and brand-new segments.First up is the debut of What Keeps You Up At Night, brought to you by Sam Hicks from Coastal Carolina University—exploring why we insist on ignoring a good night's sleep to binge on all things Murder. Then, making a bold entrance is the Fantasy Desk, hosted by Willis Kallay of the University of Georgia. And don’t sleep on the debut of Josh from Kennesaw State, who boldly goes out on a limb and forecasts that it will be hot in the South in his 10-Day SASFAA Weather Forecast. It’s a night of firsts, and a sign that Swoonpies and Money is just getting started.

Surprise! It’s a bonus episode of Swoonpies and Money! Because we’re nothing if not impatient and overly caffeinated, we couldn’t wait to spill the tea on recent spring conferences. The Swoonie gang tracked down the leadership of NCASFAA, TASFAA, and MASFAA to get their impressions of their respective events.But wait—there’s more! In a move that can only be described as “mildly concerning,” Bill wraps up the show by unleashing an AI version of himself in a bold attempt to future-proof the podcast. The results are... unexpected and may cause fans of the Sound of Music to get up and waltz. You've been warned.

Michelle and Bill are back—and riding high on the (very brief) glory of successfully launching Swoonpies and Money! In this episode, they attempt to rest on their laurels... but quickly discover there is really not much to celebrate. Executive Producer Alex Fuentes joins the party, breaking down Spotify and Apple analytics to uncover who tuned in—and which segment ghosted them entirely - hint: Z. Plus: the mysterious hooey-hooey guy is unmasked, an enthusiastic new member joins the Swoonie ranks, and we debut a brand-new segment, "How I Got Here," hosted by the ever-insightful Emily Baldwin from the University of Georgia, featuring Katie Conrad from Georgia Tech and Jessica Ly from Florida International University.Be one of the cool kids and listen now before Swoonie Mania is a thing.

In the debut episode of Swoonpies and Money, co-hosts Michelle and Bill introduce listeners to SASFAA’s brand-new podcast — a space where financial aid, community, and a little Southern flavor come together. They outline what listeners can expect in future episodes, including timely updates, special guests, professional insights, and plenty of laughs along the way.The episode wraps up with a lively recap of the recent SASFAA Annual Conference, highlighting key moments, memorable sessions, and the magic of reconnecting with colleagues from across the region.