Ski in-Sell Out!

This one is different.No guests. No script. Just Max and Lauren getting honest about what it actually feels like to build something from scratch—when the pipeline is dry, the bills are real, and the confidence gets tested daily.They talk about:The fear that comes with betting on yourselfWhy “contact roulette” might be the best lead gen strategy right nowFinancial pressure vs. belief in the long gameWhat it really means to go all-inAnd why this might be the exact moment that matters mostIf you’ve ever taken a leap—or are thinking about it—this episode is for you.Because this is the part no one talks about.

This episode is what real real estate looks like.We sit down with longtime Park City local and development expert Patrick Howell to talk about the path nobody sees—from growing up on a ranch in Northern California to building a career in hospitality, and eventually stepping into the world of development sales in Park City.Patrick got into real estate in 2006… right before the crash.What followed was a full cycle—boom, bust, survival, and rebuilding into one of the most trusted voices in development sales in the Wasatch Back.We talk about:The transition from hospitality to real estateWhat it was like starting in 2006 (and surviving 2008)Why development sales is a completely different gameThe hardest conversations you have to have with developersWhat’s actually happening around the JordanelleAnd how to build a long career without burning outThis isn’t about hype. It’s about staying in the game long enough to actually understand it.

Ryan Dickey didn’t plan to become mayor of Park City.Like a lot of people, he came for a winter… and never left.In this episode, we go way beyond real estate. We talk about small-town roots, big life pivots, and what happens when you choose community over everything else. From building a business to stepping into public service, Ryan shares what it really looks like to balance family, work, and responsibility in a place people don’t want to leave.This one gets into the real stuff:Why people move to Park City (and why they stay)The truth about being a real estate agent in a “dream market”What it actually takes to serve a communityAnd the mindset that applies to everything: don’t get tied to the outcomeIf you’ve ever thought about changing your life, building something meaningful, or just understanding what makes a place like Park City tick—this one’s worth your time.

This one starts earlier than most.Before city council, before housing debates, before Park City became what it is today — this is about how it all begins.Becca Gerber grew up here. Not the polished version of Park City, but the one where you figured it out as you went, worked a bunch of jobs, and stayed because something about this place just sticks.We get into her path — from swimming at the University of Utah to almost joining the Peace Corps, to coming home during the 2002 Olympics and seeing the world come together in a way that changed her perspective.From there, it turns into something bigger:What happens when you love a place enough to fight for it? What happens when the town grows faster than the people who built it? And what does it actually mean to represent a community that doesn’t always see itself at the table?This is a conversation about Park City — but more than that, it’s about belonging, perspective, and the people who quietly shape a place over time.

A conversation about how people actually end up in Park City — and why it’s rarely a straight line.Eric Gingras shares his journey from the East Coast to Red Ledges, starting with ski trips, taking calculated risks, buying land before having a plan, and slowly building a life in Utah. What starts as curiosity turns into commitment — and eventually, a full transition into real estate, community, and lifestyle.This episode explores the common thread behind so many Park City stories: people chasing something more — and figuring it out along the way.We get into:Why Park City keeps pulling people inThe real decision points behind a life changeWhat it means to “buy into” a lifestyleThe difference between selling something and actually believing in itWhy giving back (even teaching kids to ski) mattersIf you’ve ever thought about making a move — this is the story behind it.

What was Park City like before it became… Park City?In this episode of Ski In Sell Out, Max and Lauren sit down with Max’s dad, Jim Doilney — one of the early builders of modern Park City.From dodging the Vietnam draft to building homes, creating neighborhoods, preserving open space, and helping shape the town we know today — this is a raw, honest look at how it all came together.This isn’t just a story about real estate. It’s a story about community, risk, failure, and building a life in a place you believe in.And why, at the end of the day… we’re not really selling houses — we’re selling Park City.

In this episode of Ski In Sell Out, Max and Lauren sit down with builder Matt Russell, founder of Build Utah, to talk about what really happens behind the scenes of luxury construction in Park City.Matt’s journey didn’t start with blueprints — it started in dental school in Manhattan. After 9/11, a Volkswagen bus, and a cross-country reset, he chose dirt over dentistry and never looked back.We talk about:Why every contractor ends up being a marriage therapistWhat 25 years in construction actually teaches youThe stress of building homes that have never been built beforeBig glass walls, bigger expectationsTrust in an “open kimono” businessAnd what it takes to build a company that lasts longer than the homes inside itThis is a conversation about craftsmanship, reputation, and why trust matters more than tile.

Max and Lauren sit down with renowned designer Barclay Butera to talk about creativity, growth, and what it really means to build a business that lasts.From growing up in a family design firm to expanding across Newport Beach, New York, Los Angeles, and Park City — Barclay shares the highs, the hard lessons from 2008, and why relationships matter more than scale.This conversation goes beyond design — touching on real estate evolution, legacy neighborhoods, community growth, and how Park City continues to reinvent itself.If you’re interested in real estate, design, entrepreneurship, or simply the people shaping mountain towns, this episode delivers.Barclay’s early years growing up in a design familyLeaving law school to build a creative careerExpanding to 132 employees — and why he intentionally scaled backThe impact of the 2008 crash on design businessesHow design and real estate intersect in Park CityRefresh vs. teardown: evolving legacy homesWhy relationships drive long-term successStaying ahead of trends through global travelAging gracefully while continuing to build

Abbi Martz joins Ski In Sell Out to talk about her path from elite ski racing to luxury real estate in Park City, Utah. Raised on a ski mountain in New Hampshire and shaped by years of high-level competition, Abbi brings discipline, clarity, and heart to her work in Deer Valley real estate.In this episode, we cover ski racing culture, growing up as an identical twin, transitioning from athletics to business, building a successful real estate partnership, and raising a family in a rapidly changing mountain town.Whether you’re interested in Park City real estate, ski town life, or building a career rooted in values and lifestyle, this episode offers a grounded, honest look at what it means to build something lasting—on and off the mountain.

What happens when a lifelong bartender, adventure-seeker, and ski-town local decides to “sell out”—without actually selling out?In this episode of Ski In Sell Out, hosts Max Doilney and Lauren Angerosa sit down with Park City real estate agent Andy Cordray to explore a career pivot rooted in authenticity, lifestyle, and hard-earned self-awareness.Andy shares his unconventional journey from bartending on Main Street to becoming one of Park City’s most trusted real estate professionals—while keeping his long hair, tattoos, and love for dirt bikes, horses, and powder days intact. Along the way, the conversation dives into near-death decisions, burnout, introversion, redefining success, and why real estate works best when it reflects who you actually are.This episode is for anyone navigating reinvention, questioning traditional success, or trying to build a career that supports real life—not the other way around.Topics covered:Career reinvention in ski townsLeaving the bar industry for real estateIdentity, burnout, and balanceSelling lifestyle, not just propertyWhy authenticity is a competitive advantage

In this episode of Ski In Sell Out, Max and Lauren sit down with Ace Allak for a grounded, honest conversation about leadership, mentorship, and the responsibility that comes with building something meaningful.Ace shares lessons from his early life, the pressure to perform, and the long road to building successful businesses—while avoiding the traps of burnout, ego, and false balance. At the center of the conversation is a simple but powerful idea: you must qualify your mentor.This episode explores why burn can’t be taught, why elimination creates balance, and why the best leaders often make themselves the most accessible. It’s a conversation about success, yes—but more importantly, about significance.

Jill Johnson grew up in Park City when it was still a sleepy mountain town — when kids biked everywhere, ski days were built into school, and the mountain itself felt like a babysitter. In this episode, Jill reflects on growing up in a family deeply tied to the shaping of Park City, her journey as a competitive mogul skier, her years away in Chicago studying art therapy, and what ultimately pulled her back home.Now working in real estate at Powder Mountain / Powder Haven, Jill shares a thoughtful perspective on change, community, and what it means to “sell” a lifestyle without selling out. This is a conversation about roots, reinvention, raising kids in a transformed town, and choosing place — again and again.

What does it actually mean to stay in a place like Park City — without getting stuck, bitter, or burned out?In this episode of Ski In Sell Out, Max and Lauren sit down with Molly Crosswhite, a Park City native and co-founder of Selling the Slopes, whose life and career track the town’s evolution in real time.Molly opens up about growing up in Park City before the boom, leaving to find her own footing, and choosing to come back — not because it was easy, but because the place kept changing with her. They talk about early access to real estate, raising kids in a town flooded with wealth, and how perspective shifts when you’re both a local and a professional guide for newcomers.The conversation dives deep into what actually sustains a long career: momentum, trust, energy, and knowing when to walk away — even from “good” deals. Molly also shares how her partnership with Rachel Retzer works precisely because they’re different people with complementary strengths, and why success without balance eventually costs more than it pays.This episode isn’t about hacks or volume. It’s about staying human in a high-stakes business — and building a life you don’t need to escape from.

Oops… We Sold Out.What does “selling out” really mean in a ski town?In this episode of Ski In, Sell Out, Max Doilney and Lauren Angerosa sit down with Rachel Retzer of Selling the Slopes for a candid, funny, and thoughtful conversation about career pivots, identity, and finding work that actually fits.From teaching elementary school to selling luxury real estate, Rachel shares how freedom, stability, and partnership only work when your career aligns with who you are — not who people expect you to be. Together, they unpack ski town stereotypes, real estate myths, and why “selling out” might just be another word for growing up.

In this episode of Ski In, Sell Out, Max and Lauren sit down with Ben Fisher, one of the founders of Christie’s International Real Estate Park City. Ben’s path is rare — he got his first “referral fee” at 16 working in a ski shop, skipped the typical post-college wandering years, and jumped into real estate full-time by his early 20s.Ben opens up about:Growing up in Park City after his dad took a massive career swing to move the family west park-city-real-estate-journey-t…What it’s like to build a brokerage from absolutely nothing (literally no carpet, no accounting, no systems) park-city-real-estate-journey-t…How Christie's founders fit together and why the partnership works without ego or drama park-city-real-estate-journey-t…The pressure of raising kids in the Park City “bubble” and fighting entitlement with real-world experiences park-city-real-estate-journey-t…Being an introvert running operations behind the scenes — and why people listen when he does speak up park-city-real-estate-journey-t…What he actually enjoys about real estate now, 15+ years inThis one is honest, grounded, and a great look inside the people shaping modern Park City real estate.

Max and Lauren welcome Sam, one of the owners of Christie's International Real Estate Park City and a former top agent at Sotheby’s, to talk about the real story behind his “rocket ship” career.Sam shares how he went from bartending and bouncing around Europe, to moving to Park City for family, to jumping into real estate with a father-in-law who handed him the “junk” leads. He talks about cold-calling architects, pulling a postcard out of the trash that led to a life-long client, and why having a New Zealand accent is secretly a sales advantage.The conversation ranges from:how to spot and act on “luck” by keeping your head uptreating open houses and random encounters as real opportunitiesbuilding trust with other agents so they actually want to send you businesstraveling with kids and raising a family inside the Park City bubblewhat stress did to his dad and why he now designs his life and company to avoid itwhy Christie's Park City was built to be fun, low-ego, and human-firstIt’s a candid, warm, and surprisingly deep talk about identity, parenting, community, and why real estate doesn’t have to feel like a grind to work.

What happens when a lifelong skier from the Poconos follows his heart west—and ends up helping shape one of the most dynamic resort real-estate markets in the country? In this heartfelt episode of Ski In Sell Out, Max and Lauren talk with Matt Magnotta, Managing Partner at Christie’s International Real Estate Park City, about his climb from golf professional to trusted development-sales leader. Matt opens up about the recession that tested him, the mentors who helped him redefine sales through honesty and service, and the peace he’s found in living where others dream of vacationing. This episode is about more than real estate—it’s about resilience, character, and choosing to live life with intention in the mountains.

Two-time Olympic speed skater Aly Dudek swapped the ice for the Wasatch Back—and she’s not looking back. In this episode, Max and Lauren dig into what it really means to “sell out” in Park City: chasing big goals, rebuilding identity, and finding purpose after the podium. Aly dishes on life in a team of top agents, the competitive edge that never dies, and how she accidentally became the Realtor everyone wants on their side (and on their bike rides).Expect laughs, truth bombs, and a few inside jokes about fanny packs, medals, and the fine art of showing homes in ski boots.

In this episode of Ski In, Sell Out, Max and Lauren sit down with Jake Doilney—Principal Broker at Christie’s International Real Estate Park City—to trace a multigenerational story of vision, grit, and reinvention. They explore:🏔️ How Park City’s “ski-in sell-out” roots shaped today’s real-estate landscape🧠 Why being called a sellout can actually mean showing up for your community👨‍👩‍👧 The intertwined Doilney family tree that helped build modern Park City💡 Mentorship, burnout, and how to thrive through market cycles❤️ Why human connection—not commissions—keeps the best brokers goingThis candid conversation moves from heartfelt to hilarious, reminding listeners that growth and gratitude can coexist with change.

In this kickoff episode of Ski In, Sell Out, Max and Lauren unpack what it really means to “sell out.”After a summer of growth and reflection, the two dive into why they ditched the old name (Keeping It Real Estate), what success looks like in a small-town market, and how to stay authentic in an industry built on image.Expect laughter, vulnerability, and a few hard truths about fear, money, ambition, and what it takes to build a career that actually feels like you.Whether you’re a real-estate pro, a Park City local, or just figuring out your next chapter, this episode is your lift ticket to a more honest take on success.🎿 Because in this town, everyone’s skiing some version of the same run — we’re just trying not to lose ourselves on the way down.

In this episode of Ski in-Sell Out!, we sit down with Christine Grenney—who’s been rocking Park City real estate for over two decades—to talk passion, pixie dust, and playing the long game. Christine’s not just selling houses, she’s selling the whole Park City experience—best burritos, secret powder-day parking spots, and all. She shares why there’s no room for scarcity thinking, how protecting your value means never discounting your worth, and why finding the right fit with clients matters more than chasing every deal. It’s honest, high-energy, and full of the kind of local intel you can’t Google.

In this inaugural episode of Ski in-Sell Out! (Previously -Keeping It Real(estate)), Max Doilney gets brutally honest about what it means to reinvent yourself mid-career—while learning to love a profession he once judged.From owning a restaurant to serving on city council, to finally going all-in on real estate, Max shares why he’s launching this podcast (alone… for now), and what he hopes it becomes.It’s raw, unfiltered, and the perfect starting point for anyone questioning what’s next in their work, their hometown, or their identity.Themes: career transitions, Park City real estate, self-reflection, community, and calling BS (nicely).

In Episode 2, The Edge of the Dive, Lauren joins Max to talk through her looming career change—leaving adolescent mental health to step into real estate. She hasn’t told her current job yet, but the decision is alive in her head and heart. Together, they explore what it means to trade a helping profession for a business often judged as superficial or greedy.The conversation ranges from Park City’s $28 million deals to the awkwardness of calling yourself a “realtor,” from the weight of financial risk to the search for community impact. They talk judgments, hypocrisy, and whether authenticity can survive in an industry driven by commissions.At its core, this episode is about transition: the fears that come with it, the excitement that fuels it, and the hope that building something genuine—relationships, community, and a life of balance—is possible on the other side.