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Swords and Swoons
by Nikki & Stephanie
Swords and Swoons is your go-to podcast for all things fantasy romance! Join us your hosts, Nikki and Stephanie, as we dive deep into the magical worlds, swoon-worthy characters, and epic love stories that have taken over BookTok. Expect passionate debates, spicy book recommendations, and a sprinkle of chaos as we break down these stories we all know and love.
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S2E9: The Rites of the Starling - Pt 3 Deep Dive (Chapters 19 - 35)
We’re back with Part Three of our Rites of the Starling deep dive, and this is where everything starts to unravel. In this episode, we break down chapters 19 through 35 — from shocking visions and major character reveals to the moments that had us completely rethinking what we know about this world.We dive into Andreas joining the journey, the increasingly intense visions surrounding his fate, and the clues that have us convinced we’re onto something big. We’re also unpacking new lore around the Maxims, mysterious connections to the boy from earlier visions, and the scene that left us spiraling — because we have very strong theories about who Andreas really is… and what that means for Odessa.Expect chaos, questionable predictions, and a lot of “wait… hold on” moments as we try to piece everything together before it all inevitably blows up.
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S2E8: The Rites of the Starling - Pt 2 Deep Dive ( Chapters 9 - 18)
We’re back with Part Two of our Rites of the Starling deep dive, and things are officially getting intense. In this episode, we break down chapters 9 through 18 — and the story starts revealing just enough to send us spiraling.We dive into the evolving character dynamics, the moments that had us questioning everything, and the details that feel way too important to ignore. And yes… we’re bringing our wildest theories yet, including who we think Odessa’s mom could be — and let’s just say, we have thoughts!!!!If you’re reading along, this is where things start to click… and unravel at the same time.✨ Spoilers for Chapters 9–18✨ Theories, chaos, and questionable predictions ahead
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S2E7: The Rites of the Starling — Pt 1 Deep Dive (Chapters 1–8)
We’re kicking off our deep dive into The Rites of the Starling by Devney Perry, and this book wastes no time pulling us into an entirely new world. In this episode, we break down the first eight chapters — from meeting a fresh cast of characters to exploring a brand-new continent and the magic system that already has us hooked.We share our first impressions, early theories, and the moments that immediately stood out, all while trying to piece together where this story is headed. With so many new elements introduced right out of the gate, there’s a lot to unpack — and we’re just getting started.✨ Spoilers for Chapters 1–8✨ New world, new magic, and plenty of theories ahead
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S2E6: Nesta Archeron: Misunderstood or Just the Worst?
We said what we said — and in this episode, we’re holding nothing back.Nesta Archeron is one of the most divisive characters in the Maasverse, and we’re diving headfirst into the debate. Is she misunderstood, complex, and deeply relatable… or just frustrating, toxic, and impossible to defend? We’re unpacking it all — her growth, her choices, her relationships, and why she sparks such strong reactions in the fandom.Expect hot takes, honest opinions, and a few moments where we might have to check each other — because when it comes to Nesta, there are no neutral opinions.If you’ve ever argued about her in the group chat… this episode is for you.
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S2E5 Shield of Sparrows Breakdown Pt 2: Craziest Finale Yet
This is where Shield of Sparrows goes from good to unforgettable.We’re back to finish our deep dive into Shield of Sparrows by Devney Perry, and the second half of this book does not hold back. In this episode, we break down the rising tension, emotional twists, and the moments that completely changed everything.From unexpected reveals to the scenes that left us reeling, we revisit our early predictions, react in real time, and unpack how it all comes together in a finale that delivers. Expect spoilers, strong reactions, and plenty of chaos as we close out this read.
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S2E4: Shield of Sparrows Breakdown Pt 1
We’re kicking off our deep dive into Shield of Sparrows by Devney Perry, and from the very first pages, this story pulls us in. In Part One of our breakdown, we cover the opening chapters, setting the stage for the world, the characters, and the tensions that immediately have us hooked.We dive into first impressions, early character dynamics, and the moments that stood out most — from subtle emotional beats to the scenes that already have us theorizing about what’s to come. As always, expect a mix of thoughtful analysis, chaotic reactions, and a few early predictions we’ll probably revisit later.If you’re reading along or just want a spoiler-filled discussion of the beginning of Shield of Sparrows, this is your place to start.✨ Spoilers for the beginning of Shield of Sparrows✨ First impressions, theories, and plenty of swooning ahead
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S2E3: SJM x Call Me Daddy reactions
Sarah J. Maas recently sat down for an interview on Call Me Daddy, and the Maasverse fandom had plenty to talk about. In this episode, we break down the biggest takeaways from the conversation — including the future of the ACOTAR TV adaptation, the surprising origins of Throne of Glass, and Sarah’s perspective on some of the most controversial storylines in her books.We also discuss the ongoing debate around Nesta’s character, Feyre’s pregnancy arc, and the possibility of a Tamlin redemption storyline. Join us as we unpack the interview, share our thoughts on the future of the Maasverse, and end the episode with a chaotic round of Maasverse Fuck, Marry, Kill.
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S2E2: I challenge you to a read!
In this episode, we are taking on the challenge to convince the other to read a new series, focusing on 'City of Gods and Monsters' and 'The Plated Prisoner' series. To make this even more challenging, this will be a spoiler free debate and we can only convince each other with vibes, music comparisons and meal examples alone! Tune in to see if these series are right for your TBR list, or if you've already read them, did we do the synopsis justice!
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S2E1 Spotify Wrapped goes Fae
What would your favorite book characters’ Spotify Wrapped look like? In this episode of Swords & Swoons, we’re giving our favorite fictional characters their very own year-end music recap; complete with top artists, top songs, and genres that feel a little too accurate.Expect hot takes, friendly arguments, and a lot of laughing as we turn bookish vibes into playlists.🎧 Play along with us, decide who you agree with, and let us know whose Spotify Wrapped you’d steal or hide!
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Ep 36. Brimstone Deep Dive Finale
The secrets are out, the ending is here, and we are absolutely not emotionally prepared.In our season finale, we break down the explosive ending of Brimstone by Callie Hart. From final revelations and emotional fallout to lingering questions and future theories, this episode wraps up our Brimstone deep dive and closes out the season of Swords & Swoons. Spoilers for the entire book ahead.
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Ep 35. Brimstone Deep Dive Pt 4 - Secret Plans Revealed
If you thought Brimstone had already revealed its biggest secrets… think again.Part Four delivers some of the biggest reveals yet. We unpack the shocking truth behind the Book from Edina, where it’s been hiding, the rise of a new Lord of Midnight, and Tal’s full “drink the Kool-Aid” moment with the High Bloods. Heavy spoilers, major power shifts, and unhinged reactions ahead.
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Ep 34. Brimstone Deep Dive Pt 3 - New Tricks, New Faces, New Spice
We’re back with another round of Brimstone by Callie Hart. In Part Three, Saeris learns some new tricks, Fisher meets some new faces, and the impossible happens! Expect tension, revelations, and plenty of screaming as we dissect every twist, turn and scene making us scratch our heads.Spoilers for Brimstone ahead. Bring your theories and your emotional support relics.
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Ep 33. Brimstone Deep Dive Pt 2 - Power, Trust, and a Thousand Scorpion Stings
In Part Two of our Brimstone deep dive, Saeris grapples with her growing power and the rot threat inches closer to reality everyday. Trust becomes a dangerous gamble — and alliances feel more fragile than ever.We unpack Saeris’ evolving magic, Kingfisher’s side quest with his favorite pal Carrion, escalating political tension, and the moments that had our “Spicy Moment Meter” climbing fast. This section of Brimstone raises the stakes and sets the stage for something devastating.✨ Spoilers for Brimstone through chapter 20 ✨ Chaos, theories, and emotional damage encouraged
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Ep 32. Brimstone Deep Dive Pt1
We’re officially entering Brimstone, and Callie Hart did not come to play. In this episode, we dive into the explosive prologue and the first ten chapters, where Saeris’ power sharpens, danger escalates, and the rot threat becomes terrifyingly real.From court politics to hidden magic, morally gray decisions to undeniable tension between Saeris and Kingfisher, we’re breaking down every twist, reveal, and chaos-filled moment. If you thought Quicksilver was wild… Brimstone says “hold my metal.”Expect theories. Expect screaming. Expect swooning. Spoilers for both Quicksilver and Brimstone (Prologue–Ch.10).
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Ep 31. Quicksilver Recap Part Two
In this episode, we’re diving into the second half of Quicksilver by Callie Hart, right where everything goes off the rails. From the moment Saeris uncovers the vampire threat, the world cracks open, the magic deepens, and the danger skyrockets.We break down the rising stakes, the political tension, Saeris’ explosive power arc, and Kingfisher’s glorious descent into morally-gray obsession. With betrayals, reveals, fae politics, and one brutal ending that left us on the floor, this episode is packed with chaos, theories, and swoons.Whether you’re re-reading before Brimstone drops or spiraling with us for the first time, this is your full breakdown of every twist you screamed about. Grab your headphones — and maybe some notes — because we’re going all in.✨ Spoilers for the entire book ahead.✨ Listener theories and chaos welcome.
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Ep 30. Quicksilver Recap Pt 1.
Join us on Swords & Swoons as we dive head-first into Quicksilver, Callie Hart’s electrifying romantasy debut. From desert thieves to fae warrior oaths, living magic to grave threats—this book had it all. We’ll recap the major arcs, unpack the themes, and then shift into full speculation mode for Brimstone. What’s in store for Saeris and Kingfisher? What secrets still lurk in the fae realm? Spoilers ahead for book 1. Get ready for wild theories, swoons, and all the bookish chaos.
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Ep 29. Dragons and Deception - the Rebecca Yarros Interview
This week on Swords & Swoons, we dive into the exclusive interview featured on the Fantasy Fangirls podcast at Disney World, where Rebecca Yarros teased major developments for the Empyrean series. From what happened during Violet’s missing hours, to how Xaden’s role may shift, to the expansion of the dragon-rider world—nothing is off-limits. We’ll break down the biggest reveals, tie them into fan-theories, and ask the questions you’ve been dying to hear. Spoilers for Onyx Storm, Iron Flame, Fourth Wing and the next book ahead. Buckle up.
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Ep 28 - How Many Drinks? Book Boyfriends, Villains, and One Night Stands 🍸
This is it, our most explicit, unhinged episode yet. We’re rating our favorite (and least favorite) fantasy characters by how many drinks it would take for us to agree to a one night stand. From the irresistible (Rhysand, Kai Azer, Xaden) to the questionable (Tamlin, Beron, and Amarantha), no one is safe.Join us as we spill wine, laugh too hard, and admit things we probably shouldn’t about our fictional obsessions. Warning: chaos, thirst, and lots of questionable morals ahead.
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Ep 27. Would You Rather? - Book Boyfriends, Dragons, Powers Oh My!
What happens when you mix fantasy book worlds with the ultimate game of “Would You Rather”? Pure chaos — and that’s exactly what we’re serving in this episode. From choosing between Azriel’s shadows and Tairn’s wings, to debating whether we’d rather train at Basgiath or the House of Wind, nothing is off-limits.We pull from ACOTAR, Fourth Wing, Throne of Glass, Powerless, One Dark Window, The Vampire Diaries, and more so you have been warned of the spoilers, pitting book boyfriends against each other, and forcing each other to make impossible (and hilarious) choices.Play along with us, share your own answers on Instagram, and be prepared for some very unhinged hot takes. After all, in the book world, sometimes the hardest choice is the most fun.
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Ep 26. ACOTAR Predictions
The wait for the next ACOTAR book feels endless, but we're here to fill the void with our most unhinged predictions yet. In this episode, we revisit where A Court of Silver Flames left off, dive deep into the fandom's hottest debate - ElainxAzriel vs. GwynxAzriel and imagine what Feyre and Rhys's world looks like now that baby Nyx is here. You don't want to miss our latest spiraling thoughts!
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Ep 25. The Bookish Bar Crawl
What would your favorite fantasy characters order if you spotted them at happy hour? In this fun, wine-fueled episode, we imagine our beloved MMCs and FMCs stepping up to the bar and placing their drink orders.Would Rhysand be a top-shelf whiskey guy or a red wine snob? Is Xaden secretly ordering something dark and broody like a Negroni? Join us as we sip along, laugh way too hard, and decide which fictional characters would thrive (or flop) on a night out.
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Ep 24. The Fantasy Eras Tour
This week we're taking a whirlwind tour through the many eras of fantasy fiction that have owned our hearts - and entire TBR lists. Whether you're stuck in your dark academia phase or you never left Velaris emotionally -- we're reminiscing, roasting, and ranking them all.Which era is your favorite?
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Ep 23. - “If He Did That in Real Life, I’d File a Restraining Order”
We all love a good morally gray man, but let’s be real — some of their behaviors only work because they’re fictional. In this episode, we put on our real-world goggles and unpack the wildly unhinged things BookTok’s most beloved MMCs get away with.From Rhysand’s possessive declarations, to Xaden’s shadow-lurking ways, to Kai Azer’s dangerously sexy banter — we’re asking: would this fly in the real world, or would we be calling the authorities?It’s spicy, chaotic, and surprisingly therapeutic. Tune in as we roast and revere our favorite book boyfriends — and question all our life choices in the process.📚 Featuring characters from ACOTAR, Fourth Wing, Powerless, Crescent City, The Wolf King, and more.
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Ep 22. Fictional Worlds to Real Places
Pack your bags (and your annotated copy of ACOTAR)—we're taking you on a fantasy-fueled adventure! In this episode of Swords & Swoons, we’re exploring real-life locations that give major fictional world energy. From castles that echo the halls of the Winter Court to deserts that feel straight out of the Red Desert, we're matching iconic BookTok fantasy series with dreamy destinations that had us saying, this place is totally Velaris-coded.
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Ep 21. - Casting Chaos: Our Ultimate Fantasy Dream Teams
In this episode of Swords & Swoons, we’re playing casting director! Join us as we reveal our dream fan casts for the ACOTAR, Crescent City, Fourth Wing, and Powerless series — from who we'd die to see in wings and shadows, to who could possibly live up to Kai Azer’s charm. Expect strong opinions, unhinged picks, and a lot of “we know they’re too old but hear us out…” Grab your casting couch, and get ready to swoon.
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Ep 20. The Morally Grey MMC Pageant
It’s the competition no one saw coming but everyone needed—welcome to the first-ever Swords & Swoons MMC Pageant! We’re pitting our favorite morally grey male main characters against each other in a tournament of charm, chaos, and questionable ethics. From dark-hearted warlords to smirking rogues with secret trauma, we’re breaking down what makes these MMCs irresistible—and possibly toxic. Who will take the crown as the most morally grey heartthrob of them all? Tune in to hear our impassioned cases! SPOILER WARNINGS: ACOTAR, Fourth Wing series, Veiled Kingdom, Powerless, and Quicksilver
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Ep 19. The Fearless Finale: Love, Loyalty, and Last Words
It’s here — the Fearless finale episode! In this extremely questionable conclusion to our deep dive, we cover chapters 66 through the end and unpack everything Lauren Roberts gave us as we said goodbye to this story. We hold no opinion back about the ending of this series so be warned -- you may not agree. But that's our opinions so sorry, not sorry!
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Ep 18. Fearless Pt 6 - Vows, Victories & Vindication
The wedding bells have finally rung, and we’re still recovering! In this episode, we dive into chapters 53 to 65 of Fearless by Lauren Roberts — where romance takes center stage and the stakes have never been higher. We break down the long-awaited wedding (yes, we got mad at Kai), plus the political maneuvering and major emotional fallout surrounding it. And let’s not forget: our theory about Callum? Absolutely spot-on! Vindication tastes almost as sweet as a Kai one-liner. You won’t want to miss this ride through love, loyalty, and the lingering question: what now?
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Ep 17. Fearless Pt 5 - The Final Trial Begins
In this episode of Swords & Swoons, we dive into chapters 41 to 52 of Fearless—and the emotional stakes have never been higher. The final trial looms, and tensions are unraveling faster than Kai’s carefully controlled smirks. With loyalty tested, secrets slipping out, and characters pushed to their breaking points, this section is an emotional roller coaster from start to finish.We unpack every gasp-worthy twist, every quiet heartbreak, and of course, the dynamics between our favorite couple as the line between love and duty grows razor thin. If you're still emotionally recovering from the final trial events... you're not alone.Grab your tissues and theory boards—this is one chapter set you do not want to miss.
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Ep 16. Fearless Pt 4 - Secrets, Steam & a Shocking Reveal
Get ready for 10 chapters of Fearless madness as we dive into chapters 30 through 40 of Lauren Roberts’ explosive finale. In this episode, we unravel some of the series’ biggest twists yet—including a massive reveal that changes everything.From intense political tension and deepening romantic stakes to moments that left us breathless (yes, Kai is still setting new standards), this section is packed with emotional gut punches and revelations we did not see coming.You do not want to miss this one—especially that jaw-dropping twist that had us audibly gasping. Let’s get into it.
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Ep 15. Fearless Deep Dive Pt 3.
The tension is thick, the stakes are higher than ever, and we’re spiraling right alongside Paedyn as we dive into chapters 21 through 29 of Fearless by Lauren Roberts. In this episode, we take a close look at some new revelations from the past and what that could mean for the future. Join us as we theorize, swoon, and maybe cry a little as we keep venturing closer to the explosive finale.
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Ep 14. Fearless Deep Dive Pt 2.
In this episode, we’re diving deep into chapters 11–20 (+ Edric) of Fearless, where tensions mount, secrets unravel, and Kai proves once again that no one does subtle swoon like he does. We break down the scene that had us collectively gasping—yes, the moment Kai slyly shifts Paedyn’s ring from her left hand to her right (!!!), and all the implications that come with it. Plus, we spiral over the reveal of a mysterious powerless royal baby and what that could mean for Ilya, the Balance, and the series as a whole. If you're ready for theories, screams, and emotionally unhinged reactions, you're in the right place.
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Ep 13. The Fearless Deep Dive Begins – Chapters 1–10
The moment we’ve been waiting for is here — Fearless has arrived, and so has our zero-chill breakdown of the first ten chapters. In this highly anticipated deep dive, we jump headfirst into the newest installment of the Powerless trilogy by Lauren Roberts. We’re covering all the drama, angst, and sizzling tension. Join us as we dissect character motivations, scream about new dynamics, and brace ourselves for what’s to come. Spoilers abound — consider yourself warned!
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Ep 12. What's Your Take?
Buckle up, book lovers—because in this episode of Swords & Swoons, we’re spilling the tea, lighting the torches, and diving headfirst into our hottest (and possibly most controversial) takes on the BookTok community. From overhyped favorites to underappreciated gems, trope fatigue to fandom chaos—we’re not holding back. It’s all love (mostly), but it’s time to say the quiet parts out loud. Agree with us? Think we’re totally unhinged? Either way, you're in for a ride. So, What's Your Take?
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Ep 11. Blind Book Date - Let Us Set You Up With A New Series
In this episode of Swords & Swoons, we're swapping swords for surprises as we each recommend several brand-new book series for the other to dive into. From fantasy realms we haven’t explored to swoon-worthy slow burns that deserve a shot, we’re putting our trust (and TBRs) in each other’s hands. Will these picks lead to new obsessions or dramatic DNF threats? Tune in to find out—and maybe discover your next favorite series along the way!
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Ep 10. Powerful Recap – A Novella with Big Clues for Fearless
We’re diving into Powerful, the novella in Lauren Roberts’ Powerless series, and trust us—this short book packs a huge punch. From new insights into Kai Azer (because we can never get enough) to key characters that could change everything going into Fearless, we’re breaking it all down. What hidden details did we uncover? How does this novella set up the final book? And most importantly, are we emotionally prepared for Fearless on April 8th? (Spoiler: We are absolutely not.) Grab your theories, your book boyfriends, and let’s get into it!
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Ep 9. Reckless Recap - More Kai Please
We’re back with a full breakdown of Reckless, the explosive second book in Lauren Roberts’ Powerless trilogy! We just can't get enough of Kai and this book does not let us down. Plus, we’ll be discussing what this means for Fearless and where we think this wild ride is headed next. Buckle up, book lovers—this one’s going to be reckless!
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Ep 8. Powerless Recap - Our Love for Kai Azer Knows No Bounds
SPOILER WARNING FOR POWERLESS AND RECKLESS In this episode, we’re diving deep into Powerless by Lauren Roberts — breaking down all the drama, the action, and, of course, the swoon-worthy moments. From Paedyn's badass survival instincts to Kai Azer’s sharp wit and smoldering intensity, we’re not holding back on our love for this series (or Kai). Join us as we unpack the twists, betrayals, and steamy tension that had us glued to the pages !
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Ep 7. Onyx Storm Theories Pt 2
We’ve reached the end of our Onyx Storm journey, but we’re not leaving without making some bold predictions! In this final installment, we dive into our last round of theories—connecting hidden clues, unraveling the deeper meaning behind the fables, and guessing what’s next for Violet, Xaden, and the dragons. Could the Venin threat go deeper than we think? Is there more to the relic magic than we’ve been told? Tune in as we wrap up our Onyx Storm coverage with our most unhinged predictions yet!
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Ep 6. Onyx Storm Theories Pt 1
We’ve finished our deep dive, but now it’s time to let the unhinged theories take over! In this episode, we unleash our wildest thoughts on Onyx Storm—from hidden histories to dragon secrets. Is there more to the Venin than we’ve been told? What’s the true purpose of the ward stones? And most importantly, what comes next? Join us as we spiral deeper into Rebecca Yarros’ world, where every detail could be a clue and no theory is too outrageous.
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Ep 5. Onyx Storm Deep Dive Finale - Theories, Chaos, and That Cliffhanger
We’ve reached the end of Onyx Storm, and wow… what a ride! In this episode, we unpack the final third of the book, break down the explosive conclusion, and spiral over that jaw-dropping cliffhanger. From shocking reveals to last-minute betrayals, we analyze every twist and turn while sharing our wildest theories on where the series is headed next. Buckle up, because this is our most unhinged discussion yet!
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Ep 4. Onyx Storm Deep Dive Pt 2
The stakes are rising, the twists keep coming, and we have so many thoughts! In this episode, we break down the second third of Onyx Storm—from shocking revelations to game-changing power plays. We dissect the latest character moments, wild betrayals, and the ever-growing tension that’s making us question everything.
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Ep 3. Onyx Strom Deep Dive Pt 1
In this episode of Swords & Swoons, we dive headfirst into the first 22 chapters of Onyx Storm by Rebecca Yarros! From high-stakes political maneuvering to shocking venin encounters and heart-pounding battles, we break down all the biggest moments, wildest theories, and emotional turmoil that Violet, Xaden, and their squad face. Grab your daggers and hold on tight—this episode is packed with spoilers, chaos, and plenty of swoon-worthy moments!
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Ep 2. Book Bracket Battle
It’s time for the ultimate showdown! In this episode of Swords & Swoons, we’re putting some of the biggest fantasy romance series head-to-head in a March Madness-style bracket battle. From swoon-worthy romances to epic world building, we debate which series deserve to move forward—and which ones get eliminated. Tune in as we passionate argue, struggle with impossible choices, and crown a winner!
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Ep 1. Hear Me Out
Join us as we listen and don't judge to each other's Hear Me Out candidates! We will cover characters from popular stories like "A Court of Thorns and Roses", "Fourth Wing", "Crescent City", "Divine Rivals", "Powerless", Throne of Glass" and more. We will also play a little game of Who would you rather to see where our hearts truly lie.
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Swords and Swoons is your go-to podcast for all things fantasy romance! Join us your hosts, Nikki and Stephanie, as we dive deep into the magical worlds, swoon-worthy characters, and epic love stories that have taken over BookTok. Expect passionate debates, spicy book recommendations, and a sprinkle of chaos as we break down these stories we all know and love.
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