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That One Lawyer™ Podcast
by Neal A. Goldstein
The truth is, law school never taught lawyers how to build the kind of client relationships that create real success.That One Lawyer™ Podcast, hosted by attorney and bestselling author Neal A. Goldstein, helps lawyers and professionals grow their practices through authenticity, trust, and real connection. If you're trying to grow your law firm, stand out in your market, or simply figure out what's next, this show is for you.Neal brings nearly 40 years of courtroom and client experience to every episode, alongside honest conversations with lawyers, entrepreneurs, and leaders who know that real growth starts with real relationships. Forget the flashy marketing gimmicks — you'll get relationship-first strategies, business-building advice, and mentorship that actually makes sense in the real world.Whether you're a solo attorney, firm owner, or just getting started, tune in for insights and stories that remind you why authenticity still wins.New episodes every Wednesday.For more, visit
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He Left Law for 24 Years and Came Back Seeing Why Lawyers Get Taken Advantage Of
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You know, this is actually a point I frequently make for when I'm talking, when I'm doing education programs with Jewish clergy, Christian clergy and the like, is that we go into this, into this clergy business because we want to help other people. And we don't tend to think enough about how we need to help ourselves, but classic examples of the, you know, that you got to your own gas mask on before you put the oxygen mask on the, on your kids. It's the same thing. You've got to take care of yourself." YouTube Description He left the legal profession for 24 years. When he came back, one pattern was impossible to ignore. Lawyers get taken advantage of. Not because they are inexperienced. Not because they lack intelligence. But because of how they are wired. In this episode, Tom Alpert explains what most lawyers cannot see while they are inside the system. After starting in law, spending decades as a rabbi, and returning to legal practice, he brings an outside perspective that exposes a critical blind spot. The issue is not technical skill. It is behavior under pressure. Lawyers are trained to: listen carefully reduce conflict find resolution Those traits build trust with clients. They also create vulnerability when negotiating for yourself. You hesitate to push. You soften your position. You prioritize maintaining the relationship. The other side does not. That imbalance shows up in real ways. Lower compensation than your actual value. Undefined roles that expand over time. Agreements that favor the institution over the individual. Neal Goldstein pushes deeper into this tension by breaking down the difference between transactional lawyers and relationship-driven lawyers. One focuses on extracting value. The other focuses on building outcomes that last. The problem is most lawyers apply the second mindset in situations that require the first. Tom also explains why negotiating for yourself is fundamentally different from representing a client. Distance creates clarity. Without it, even experienced lawyers lose objectivity, absorb criticism personally, and weaken their own leverage. There is also a skill gap most lawyers underestimate. Listening. Not just hearing facts, but understanding what is actually being said, what is being avoided, and what is driving the other side's position. Combined with storytelling, this becomes one of the most effective tools in both litigation and negotiation. This episode is for lawyers who feel the gap between how they perform for clients and how they show up for themselves. If you have ever accepted terms too quickly, avoided pushing when you should have, or felt like you left value on the table, this conversation will hit directly. The takeaway is simple. If you do not advocate for yourself, someone else will define your value for you. Subscribe for more conversations that expose how lawyers actually build leverage, authority, and control over their careers. Libsyn Description What happens when someone leaves the legal profession for decades and then comes back? They see things differently. In this episode, Neal speaks with Tom Alpert, a lawyer who spent 24 years as a rabbi before returning to legal practice. That time outside the profession gave him a clear view of a pattern many lawyers miss while they are in it. Lawyers often struggle to advocate for themselves. They are trained to help others, resolve conflict, and maintain relationships. Those instincts serve clients well but can lead to weaker outcomes when negotiating personal compensation, roles, and boundaries. Tom explains how this shows up in real situations and why even experienced professionals lose objectivity when the stakes are personal. 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Most Lawyers Fake Success and Clients Know It
Many lawyers try to project success. Fewer actually build it. In this episode, Michael Liner discusses the gap between how lawyers present themselves and how real legal value is created. From luxury marketing to surface-level branding, he explains why many approaches fail to build trust or attract the right clients. The conversation explores what clients actually care about, how authenticity influences decision-making, and why systems and service matter more than image. If you are building a practice and questioning what really drives growth, this episode offers a clear perspective. Follow and subscribe for more conversations on how lawyers build practices that work in the real world. Michael Liner - Liner Legal Youtube Neal Goldstein - Watch The Episode and Subscribe!
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He Left Defense Law After This Case Changed Everything
Scott Peterson spent seven years on the defense side before making a decision that changed his career. It was not driven by money or opportunity. It came from a moment where the work no longer aligned with who he wanted to be. In this episode, Scott explains what pushed him to leave and what it actually takes to build a plaintiff-side practice. He talks about the risk most lawyers underestimate, the emotional weight of the cases, and the discipline required to choose the right work. There is also a clear look at why many lawyers struggle when they go out on their own, especially when they bring a defense mindset into a contingency-based practice. This is a grounded conversation about risk tolerance, case selection, and building a practice that reflects how you want to live and work. Follow and subscribe for more episodes focused on how lawyers actually build sustainable careers.
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Lawyers Are Trained to Think - Not to Build a Practice
Most lawyers follow the same path and still end up feeling like something is missing. In this episode, Neal sits down with Alycia Kinchloe to talk about what law school doesn't teach and why that gap creates problems later in your career. Alycia shares how stepping into leadership early exposed a lack of training in managing people, running systems, and building a business. That experience led her to pursue an MBA and rethink how she approached her practice. They discuss the role of emotional intelligence in client work, especially in family law, and why being heard often matters more than legal outcomes. The conversation also explores how relationships drive long-term growth, why most referrals come from trust, and how community involvement plays a role in building a sustainable practice. Alycia also breaks down how she structures her life to reduce burnout, including sleep discipline, physical activity, and setting personal guardrails that keep her aligned. This is a practical conversation about building a legal career that actually works for you. Follow the show for more conversations like this. Watch That One Lawyer Podcast Alycia Kinchloe Contact
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The Real Reason Lawyers Are Miserable and Don't Know It
A lot of lawyers look successful on paper. That does not mean they are happy. In this episode, Neal sits down with Jordan Ostroff to talk about what is really going on behind the scenes for many attorneys. Burnout, pressure, and chasing the wrong definition of success are more common than most people admit. Jordan breaks down why so many lawyers are stuck playing someone else's game and what happens when you finally question it. The conversation covers billing models, delegation, firm structure, and how to build something that supports your life instead of consuming it. They also get into the mental health side of the profession and why the adversarial nature of law creates unique challenges that many lawyers never address. This is a direct and honest conversation about what needs to change if you want a career that actually feels worth it. Follow and subscribe for more episodes focused on helping lawyers build practices and lives they actually want.
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Criminal Defense Lawyer Explains Why Most Cases Take 8 Months and Still End in a Deal
Most people think criminal cases move quickly. They don't. In this episode, Michael Kotek explains what really happens after an arrest and why most cases take six to eight months before they reach any kind of resolution. From pretrial conferences to discovery and delays, the process is slower and more complex than clients expect. That gap between expectation and reality is where many lawyers lose control of the client relationship. Michael shares how to manage that tension, why trust matters more than tactics, and how real outcomes are often negotiated rather than won in dramatic fashion. He also talks about the human side of criminal defense, and why caring about your client is what separates a good lawyer from a great one. If you're a lawyer trying to build a practice or handle cases more effectively, this episode gives you a clear look at how the system actually works. Follow the show for more conversations with lawyers who are doing the work at a high level.
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What No One Teaches About Law
This is a conversation about the part of practicing law that no one really prepares you for. Not the cases. Not the textbooks. The reality. The pressure, the expectations, and the moments that stay with you longer than they should. We talk honestly about what it feels like to be in it — and why so many lawyers struggle with things that aren't talked about nearly enough. If you're a lawyer, thinking about becoming one, or just curious about the profession, this is a conversation worth hearing.
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Why So Many Lawyers Struggle With Depression, Alcohol, and Burnout
The legal profession demands excellence. But what is the hidden cost of that demand? In this episode, Neal sits down with Patrick Krill, lawyer and board certified addiction counselor, to explore burnout, perfectionism, alcohol culture, and mental health in law. Patrick co authored the landmark 2016 national study of 13,000 lawyers that revealed elevated rates of depression, anxiety, and problem drinking. They discuss what the data showed, why so many lawyers ignore early warning signs, and how fear driven perfectionism quietly erodes both performance and well being. They also talk about law school pressure, comparison culture, loneliness in the profession, work family conflict, and what law firm leadership can do to create meaningful cultural change. If you are a lawyer who has ever felt exhausted, isolated, or unsure how to sustain this career long term, this conversation is for you. Follow and subscribe to That One Lawyer Podcast for more conversations that challenge the profession and help lawyers build healthier careers.
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Law School Will Test You Before You Feel Ready
Neal sits down with Moe Matabbar, a first year student at Tulane Law School, for a conversation about what 1L really feels like from the inside. They talk about getting cold called for 30 minutes in the very first class, the reality of the Socratic method, and whether law school is actually as competitive as people say. Moe shares how focusing on grades first semester caused him to miss part of the hiring window, and why that pressure is weighing on many 1Ls right now. They also discuss first generation uncertainty, changing hiring cycles, technology in legal research, and why relationships inside law school can make or break the experience. If you are in law school, mentoring someone who is, or thinking about applying, this episode offers a grounded look at what matters and what does not. Follow and subscribe to That One Lawyer Podcast for more conversations about law school, legal careers, and building a profession that does not harden you.
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Burnout Is Not the Enemy for Lawyers: Being Surprised By It Is
Burnout is one of the most common conversations I'm having with younger lawyers right now. Not about marketing. Not about tactics. About exhaustion and sustainability. In this episode, I share a perspective from 35 years in practice: burnout is not the enemy. Surprise is. If you are building a book of business, launching a firm, or pursuing autonomy in your legal career, this conversation will help you understand the tradeoffs, the seasons of pushing hard, and the guardrails that protect longevity. Your career is allowed to evolve. The goal is not avoiding burnout forever. The goal is staying in the game long enough to shape it. Follow the podcast for weekly conversations about what law school didn't teach you. Watch Full Episode HERE
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The Rejection That Reshaped His Legal Career
What happens when a lawyer is told outright that he doesn't belong? In this episode, Neal Goldstein and Jeffrey Possinger talk about rejection, identity, and the emotional cost of chasing approval in the legal profession. Jeffrey shares how being told he wasn't a fit for certain firms forced him to rethink success, integrity, and what kind of lawyer he wanted to become. This conversation explores belonging, trust, long-term thinking, and why not fitting in can sometimes be the beginning of a more meaningful career. Follow the podcast for more conversations about practicing law as a human being. Watch Full Episode HERE
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The Hidden Cost of Ego in Law and Why It Ruins Client Trust | Thomas Tona Shares Decades of Lessons
Ego is often rewarded early in law, but it quietly erodes trust, credibility, and long-term success. In this episode, Thomas Tona shares what decades of practice taught him about judgment, self-awareness, and building a law firm that lasts. We talk about burnout, client relationships, discipline, and why humility is often the difference between lawyers who plateau and those who endure. Watch Full Episode HERE If you've ever felt overwhelmed by advice, pressure to be everywhere, or the sense that law school prepared you for everything except real practice, this conversation will feel uncomfortably honest. Subscribe to the channel for more conversations about what law school didn't teach you, how law firms really grow, and how to build a practice without losing yourself in the process.
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From Music Industry To Law Firm Owner | How Ed Wimp Built A Human Centered Practice
Law school teaches you how to think like a lawyer. It does not teach you how to practice law, build trust with clients, or grow a sustainable firm. In this episode of That One Lawyer™ Podcast, Neal Goldstein sits down with Florida attorney Ed Wimp to talk about what actually prepares lawyers for real world practice. Ed's path to law was not linear. Before becoming a lawyer, he worked in the music industry, touring nationally and managing high pressure situations long before he ever stepped into a courtroom. That experience shaped how he practices law today. This conversation explores the gap between legal education and real practice, especially for young lawyers and early firm owners who are expected to "figure it out" with very little guidance. Ed shares how skills like thinking on your feet, staying calm under pressure, and communicating clearly are learned outside the classroom and why those skills matter more than prestige when building trust with clients. Neal and Ed also talk openly about burnout, career dissatisfaction, and the moment many lawyers reach when they realize the path they were told to follow is not actually fulfilling. Ed walks through his early legal career, including defense work, corporate style firms, and the turning point that led him to plaintiff work and eventually starting his own firm. A major theme of this episode is relationship first growth. Ed explains how referrals really happen, why community involvement matters, and how small and mid sized firms can compete without massive advertising budgets. Instead of chasing noise, he focuses on accessibility, answering the phone, and offering concierge level service that builds long term trust. Watch Full Episode HERE You will also hear practical insights on: Why law school cannot fully prepare you to practice law How real world work experience builds better lawyers The difference between prestige driven success and purpose driven practice What it actually feels like to leave a stable job and start a firm How networking works when it is done with intention, not desperation Why digital tools introduce relationships but do not replace human connection How young lawyers can build credibility early without pretending to be something they are not
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CAN LAW FIRMS GROW WITHOUT PAID ADS? | SEO, TRUST & SCALING WITH SETH PRICE
In this episode of That One Lawyer™ Podcast, Neal Goldstein sits down with Seth Price, founder of BluShark Digital and one of the most experienced voices in legal SEO and law firm growth. Seth has built, tested, broken, and rebuilt growth systems for law firms across the country. In this conversation, he explains why some firms compound over time while others stall, even when everyone is working hard. Watch full episode HERE This is not a conversation about hacks or shortcuts. It's about fundamentals, patience, trust, and the systems that allow growth to last. You'll learn: Why law firm growth strategies fail even when the website and ads look "right" How SEO actually works for lawyers in today's market The biggest mistake lawyers make when trying to grow without paid ads Why intake and human connection still matter more than any algorithm How visibility and authority work together (and when each matters) What lawyers misunderstand about scaling and burnout Why impatience quietly kills long-term growth This episode is for: Solo attorneys and small firm owners Lawyers trying to grow organically without burning cash on ads Firms frustrated by marketing that "should" be working but isn't Lawyers who want growth without losing their humanity 🎧 Listen to understand what actually works over time. 👉 Subscribe for meaningful conversations with lawyers who are building practices they're proud of.
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LAW SCHOOL TAUGHT YOU THE LAW, NOT THIS | REAL STORIES OF REINVENTION, BURNOUT, AND TRUST
This episode is a little different. Instead of one full conversation, Neal Goldstein shares highlights from three guests whose stories stayed with him long after the microphones were turned off. Watch the full episode HERE Gretchen Nicolaysen talks about reinvention, timing, and what it takes to go back to law school later in life. Ben Glass reflects on burnout, identity, and building a life that includes more than work. Lani Medina shares how her upbringing in the Bronx and service in the Air Force shaped the way she leads, practices, and shows up for her clients. These are three very different lawyers at very different stages, but they all point to the same truth. Law school teaches you the law. It does not teach you how to connect, how to build trust, or how to sustain yourself over a long career. This episode is about people. It is about resilience, authenticity, and remembering why you started.
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How to Practice Law Without Losing Your Humanity | Heather Cucolo on Ethics, Burnout, and Trust
How do you practice law without burning out, losing your empathy, or becoming someone you do not recognize anymore? In this episode of That One Lawyer™ Podcast, Neal Goldstein sits down with Professor Heather Cucolo to talk about the emotional weight of practicing law, representing the unpopular, and how lawyers can build real trust without sacrificing their values. Heather's work sits at the intersection of criminal law, professional responsibility, and mental disability law. She has spent years representing people facing civil commitment, teaching future lawyers, and training judges and law enforcement. Her perspective is rare, grounded, and deeply human. Watch the full episode HERE This conversation is about: How lawyers build trust with clients in difficult cases The emotional reality of representing stigmatized populations Burnout in the legal profession and how to avoid losing yourself Why ethics is not just a rulebook but a mindset What law school gets right and what it misses entirely Finding purpose as a lawyer beyond titles and income If you are a young lawyer, solo practitioner, or law student trying to figure out how to build a sustainable career without burning out, this episode will hit home. This is not about flashy marketing. This is about integrity, empathy, and practicing law in a way that actually lasts. Subscribe for meaningful conversations with lawyers who are building real careers, real relationships, and real impact.
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Law Firm Growth Without Burnout |Trust, Purpose, and Integrity | Steve Eichenblatt
What does it really take to build a successful law practice without losing yourself in the process? In this episode of That One Lawyer™ Podcast, Neal Goldstein sits down with attorney and author Steve Eichenblatt to talk about law firm growth, empathy-driven advocacy, and how personal adversity can become a force multiplier rather than a liability. Steve shares how growing up without stability shaped his approach to law, why empathy is a competitive advantage, and how lawyers can build trust, referrals, and long-term success without relying on paid ads or performative marketing. Watch the full episode HERE This conversation is about: • Law firm growth strategies rooted in trust • Relationship marketing for lawyers • Client retention through empathy and integrity • Overcoming lawyer burnout and frustration • Finding purpose as a lawyer beyond billables If you are a solo attorney, young lawyer, or firm owner looking to grow organically while staying grounded, this episode is for you. 👉 Subscribe for meaningful conversations with lawyers who care about people, not just outcomes.
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How to Build Client Trust in a High-Volume Law Practice | Brian Mittman
The truth is… law school never taught lawyers how to build real client relationships in high-volume practices. In this episode of That One Lawyer™ Podcast, attorney and law firm leader Brian Mittman joins Neal Goldstein for an honest conversation about what it actually takes to build trust, loyalty, and long-term success as a lawyer. Brian is the managing partner of Markoff and Mittman, widely known as The Disability Guys, and has spent decades representing injured workers and disabled individuals across New York. But what sets Brian apart is not just the volume of cases he handles. It is how intentionally he builds human connection inside a system that often prioritizes speed over people. Watch the full episode HERE In this episode, Brian and Neal discuss: How to build client trust in workers' compensation and disability cases Why high-volume law practices do not have to feel transactional Relationship-first strategies for lawyers and law firm owners How to create referral relationships that actually last Why listening matters more than talking in client communication The role of leadership, values, and culture in law firm growth This conversation is essential for: Workers' compensation lawyers Disability lawyers Personal injury attorneys Solo practitioners and small firm owners Lawyers who want sustainable growth without burnout If you are trying to grow your law practice while staying authentic, this episode will change how you think about clients, referrals, and leadership. New episodes of That One Lawyer™ Podcast drop weekly and focus on relationship-driven success in the legal profession.
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Why Being "Too Nice" Made Lani Medina a Better Corporate Lawyer
Law school teaches you how to analyze cases. It rarely teaches you how to build trust, lead with empathy, or stay authentic in a profession that often rewards toughness over humanity. In this episode of That One Lawyer™ Podcast, host Neal Goldstein sits down with corporate attorney Lani Medina to talk about what it really means to succeed in law without losing yourself along the way. Lani's path into the legal profession was anything but traditional. Raised in the Bronx, she served in the U.S. Air Force, worked in higher education, and attended Fordham Law School as a non-traditional evening student before building a career in corporate law. Along the way, she was often told she was "too nice" for the profession. Rather than changing who she was, Lani leaned into it. In this conversation, Neal and Lani discuss: Why being "too nice" can actually make you a better lawyer What law school does not teach about client relationships How empathy and professionalism coexist in corporate law The impact of military service on leadership and perspective Representation, identity, and navigating imposter syndrome Why authenticity builds stronger client trust than toughness Mental health, mindfulness, and sustainability in legal careers How AI is changing law and why human connection still matters This episode is especially relevant for: Corporate lawyers and transactional attorneys Young lawyers and first-generation attorneys Lawyers who feel pressure to fit a mold that doesn't reflect who they are Professionals building relationship-driven practices Whether you are early in your career or decades in, this episode is a reminder that the most effective lawyers are often the most genuine ones. New episodes of That One Lawyer™ Podcast drop weekly. Learn more at TruthInSuccess.com
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The Authentic Lawyer | Why Being Real Wins Clients with Chris Earley
In this episode, Neal Goldstein sits down with trial lawyer and author Chris Earley for an honest conversation about what it means to be real in the legal profession. Chris talks openly about authenticity, vulnerability, and why lawyers do better when they stop performing and start connecting. Chris shares how he built a practice rooted in clarity, communication, and trust. He talks about the parts of law school that do not prepare lawyers for the real world and the practical skills he had to learn on his own. Neal and Chris explore why clients respond to real conversations and how authenticity creates stronger relationships, better results, and more referrals. This episode is a reminder that being human is one of the most important skills a lawyer can have. Chris's perspective is grounded in experience, humility, and the belief that law is a people centered profession. If you are a young lawyer, first gen lawyer, or anyone who wants to grow in a meaningful way, this conversation will resonate. Watch full video episode HERE Quotes from Chris: "Clients do not need you to be perfect. They need you to be honest." "Authenticity builds trust faster than any script ever will." "When you show people who you are, they feel safer telling you who they are."
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What Lawyers Forget When Life Gets Heavy | That One Lawyer™ Unplugged
This episode is different. No guest and no script. Just Neal speaking honestly about the last few weeks and the moments that forced him to slow down and look at his life with clarity. He talks about the people who shaped him when he was drifting, the social worker who helped redirect his path, the professors who believed in him, and the clients who gave him a career he never imagined. He reflects on losing family, finding strength through struggle, and the quiet lessons that build the kind of perspective lawyers rarely slow down to acknowledge. This is not a holiday message, although gratitude naturally shows up here. It is a conversation about resilience, grounding yourself when life hits hard, and remembering why you do this work in the first place. If you are a young lawyer or a lawyer feeling the weight of your career, this episode will remind you that you are not alone and that the relationships around you matter more than anything else. As Neal says, we are remembered for how we make people feel. Everything else falls away.
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Navigating Law as a Black Woman | Felicia Williams on Confidence, Purpose, and Real Advocacy
"I didn't feel like I had a purpose. I didn't feel rooted. But once I asked myself, 'What do you actually want to do?' everything changed." – Felicia Williams On this episode of That One Lawyer™ Podcast, Neal Goldstein sits down with Felicia Williams, attorney, advocate, and first-generation law graduate, for a raw and powerful conversation about identity, confidence, and finding your purpose as a lawyer. If you're a young lawyer, a first-gen law student, or someone who never saw yourself represented in this profession, this conversation is going to hit you right in the chest. Felicia opens up about the reality of being a Black woman in law — the pressure, the expectations, the isolation, and the quiet moments where confidence is tested. But she also shares how she found her footing, how she built her voice, and why she believes representation isn't a burden… it's an honor. Neal and Felicia dive into the topics that law school never taught you, including: • What it really feels like entering the profession with no blueprint or family roadmap • How Black women experience pressure to "get everything right" just to be seen as equal • Why confidence is built through purpose, not perfection • How to develop a personal identity as a lawyer instead of fitting someone else's mold • Why representation matters more than ever — and how it shapes client trust • How Felicia found her voice in a profession that wasn't built with her in mind • Why younger lawyers struggle with belonging, and how to find community • The mindset shift that helped her turn self-doubt into real clarity and confidence This is not another legal résumé conversation. It's a human conversation about what it takes to become a lawyer when you're the first in your family, when you didn't grow up around attorneys, and when you're navigating identity in a system that wasn't designed for you. Felicia reminds us that: • You don't need to know everything to succeed • You don't have to sound like everyone else • You can create impact simply by being who you are • And you can build a career that serves people who look like you, come from your community, and trust you because you understand them at a deeper level For young lawyers, diverse lawyers, or anyone trying to build confidence in this field, Felicia's story is the roadmap you wish you had on day one. Why this episode matters Most podcasts talk about law like it's all tactics and business. This one talks about being human. Felicia shows that you can build a successful career not by being the loudest voice, but by being the most grounded and authentic one. If you've ever felt like you didn't belong in law, this episode proves you do.
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How to Negotiate Creator Contracts & Licensing Deals | Lawyer Advice with Frank Poe
Creators need real lawyers who understand brand deals, disclosures, usage rights, and likeness. In this episode of That One Lawyer™ Podcast, Neal Goldstein sits down with Frank Poe of POE LAW PLLC to break down the creator economy from a lawyer's perspective. We cover influencer contracts, FTC endorsement disclosures, usage rights and licensing, right of publicity, NIL deals, UGC and whitelisting, and how AI deepfakes change risk for lawyers and creators. If you advise creators, negotiate brand deals, or run a PI or small firm and want practical ways to protect clients, this conversation is your roadmap. Learn how to negotiate creator licensing, define paid usage, avoid hidden buyouts, comply with FTC disclosure rules on video, secure likeness permissions for AI and synthetic media, and structure NIL endorsements that pass compliance checks. Watch the full video HERE What you will learn • How to read and fix influencer agreements so creators keep IP and usage under control • The difference between usage rights, paid media, and whitelisting, and why clear licensing terms matter • FTC disclosure best practices for YouTube, Instagram, and TikTok, including on-screen and audio disclosures in video • Right of publicity fundamentals across states and how AI and deepfakes raise new consent issues • NIL realities after House v. NCAA and how social posts, appearances, and "valid business purpose" affect contracts • Practical red flags in creator contracts and how to push back without killing the deal Why this matters for PI and small firms Client acquisition now lives on social. Creators, athletes, and professionals monetize name, image, and content daily. Lawyers who understand creator licensing, disclosures, and likeness rights will win higher value clients and prevent disputes over ownership, consent, and distribution. About our guest Frank Poe is a lawyer for creators, athletes, and agencies. He negotiates influencer contracts, brand deals, and licensing, and helps clients navigate disputes, IP, and platform issues. Learn more at poelaw.co Chapters • Creator economy law basics for lawyers • Influencer contracts that protect creators and brands • Usage rights, buyouts, and whitelisting explained • FTC endorsement disclosures on video and in captions • Right of publicity and AI deepfakes • NIL deals for social media endorsements • UGC, indemnity, and avoiding hidden risks • Building a creator-savvy legal practice Subscribe to That One Lawyer™ Podcast for weekly episodes, mid-form highlights, and Shorts focused on creator law, law firm growth, client communication, and real practice building.
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What You Don't Know, You Don't Know | Harlan Schillinger on Accountability & the Real Growth Secrets
"You can't fix what you won't measure." – Harlan Schillinger In this episode of That One Lawyer™ Podcast, host Neal Goldstein sits down with Harlan Schillinger, often called the Godfather of Legal Advertising. For nearly five decades, Harlan has shaped the evolution of legal marketing, pioneering attorney television ads, developing Lead Docket, and helping over 130 firms build brands based on trust, accountability, and compassion. But behind his success is a philosophy every lawyer should hear: Accountability isn't punishment — it's freedom. This episode dives into what law firms get wrong about growth, why throwing money at marketing won't fix weak intake systems, and how data and culture—not ad spend—determine long-term success. 💡 IN THIS EPISODE: The origin of "What you don't know, you don't know" and why it defines modern law firm success How Harlan revolutionized legal advertising and introduced measurable marketing to the industry The moment he realized most lawyers were losing clients before the first phone call ended Why "buying your way out of a problem" never works — and what accountability really looks like How intake staff shape your brand more than your billboards ever will The single question every lawyer should ask daily: "What didn't we sign today?" 🧭 WHY THIS EPISODE MATTERS Young lawyers often focus on branding, visibility, and growth — but as Harlan points out, you can't grow what you don't track. He challenges attorneys to look deeper: Are you measuring what matters? Are your systems serving your clients? Are you building a culture that matches your message? This is more than a conversation about marketing — it's a blueprint for building an accountable, client-centered practice that lasts. 🧩 TAKEAWAYS FOR LAWYERS: Stop guessing. Measure everything. Accountability protects your firm, your clients, and your future. Your intake team defines your reputation long before you meet the client. The goal isn't more leads — it's better experiences. Ask what didn't work, not just what did. 📣 ABOUT HARLAN SCHILLINGER Harlan Schillinger is a pioneer in attorney marketing and client acquisition. Known for co-developing Lead Docket and revolutionizing lawyer advertising, Harlan has spent decades shaping law firm strategy around one principle: you can't fix what you don't track. He continues to advise firms nationwide on intake systems, leadership accountability, and the power of authentic communication. Learn more at harlanschillinger.com
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The Go-Giver Mindset for Lawyers | Bob Burg on Building Trust and Lasting Success
"Stop selling. Start serving." That's the message from Bob Burg, bestselling co-author of The Go-Giver, whose philosophy has transformed how professionals across industries — including lawyers — think about success. In this powerful conversation with Neal Goldstein on That One Lawyer™ Podcast, Bob shares how generosity, authenticity, and relationships drive true business growth — and why giving value is the most predictable path to receiving success. Too many lawyers struggle with the idea of "selling" legal services. They feel uncomfortable marketing themselves, worried it feels pushy or self-promotional. But Bob reframes the conversation: selling isn't manipulation — it's service. When you focus on what your clients need, what they value, and what makes them feel understood, you stop convincing and start connecting. 💡 In this episode, Bob and Neal explore: Why money is an echo of value, not the goal itself How to "sell" your legal services by giving time, attention, and empathy The difference between price and value — and why your worth is defined by how your clients feel, not what you charge Why human connection will always outperform technology, AI, and automation How the most successful lawyers are the ones who master people skills — listening, empathy, trust, and presence Why The Go-Giver isn't just a business book — it's a life philosophy Bob reminds us that no client hires you because you want them to. They hire you because they believe they'll be better off with you by their side. Whether you're in personal injury, family law, or any client-centered practice, that mindset shift changes everything. As Bob puts it, "You're not giving to be taken advantage of — you're creating a benevolent context for your own success." 🔑 Key Takeaways for Lawyers ✅ Building trust starts with listening — your first job is to understand their world. ✅ Selling is giving — time, empathy, and guidance that help people move closer to peace of mind. ✅ Focus on relationships, not transactions — connection outlasts contracts. ✅ Learn the people skills that law school never taught: communication, confidence, compassion. This episode will remind you that the foundation of every successful law practice isn't a marketing plan or automation tool — it's human connection. 🎧 Watch or listen now 👉 Full episode on YouTube: That One Lawyer™ Podcast – Bob Burg Episode 🎙️ Audio version: Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and all platforms.
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Zero Clients, No Office, All Heart | How Cortney Walters Built a Law Firm from Scratch
What does it really take to build a successful law firm when you start with nothing but faith and a laptop? In this powerful episode of That One Lawyer™ Podcast, Neal Goldstein sits down with Cortney Walters, founder of The Walters Law Firm, to talk about her journey from first-generation law student to respected South Florida attorney. Cortney shares how she built her firm from the ground up — starting on her couch during COVID with zero clients and no funding — and how she used social media, faith, and a heart for service to grow her practice. This episode is packed with real talk for lawyers who are ready to bet on themselves, create an authentic brand, and lead with compassion instead of ego. 🔍 What You'll Learn ✅ How to build a law firm from scratch with no budget or big-name backing ✅ What law school didn't teach — running a business, managing stress, and building relationships ✅ How faith, discipline, and mentorship sustain you through the early years ✅ Why compassion and accessibility are the best marketing tools ✅ How to balance ambition with self-care to prevent burnout ✅ Why comparing yourself on social media will kill your confidence ✅ How to lead with kindness, not perfection 🧠 Topics We Cover The leap from public defender to solo practice What happens when you're laid off and decide to start your own firm Building a personal brand on Instagram and TikTok that actually converts Staying authentic online while growing your firm How to build relationships with clients who feel seen and heard Using faith and discipline to stay centered How to create opportunity for others as your practice grows Managing burnout and knowing when to slow down 🎯 Who This Episode Is For First-generation lawyers and law students paving their own path Solo and small firm attorneys ready to go independent Women in law who want to build a practice on their own terms Lawyers struggling with toxic firm culture or burnout Anyone who believes kindness and integrity still matter in business
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Faith, Family & Authentic Lawyering | Don McClure on Building a Practice That Puts People First
What happens when a lawyer decides that bigger isn't always better? On this episode of That One Lawyer™ Podcast, Neal Goldstein sits down with Don McClure — a Houston attorney, former police officer, and community leader — who's spent the last 30 years proving that success in law doesn't have to come at the cost of integrity, family, or peace of mind. Don and his wife, Edith, have built a practice that's less about billboards and more about belonging — where every client feels seen, heard, and valued. From handwritten notes and phone calls to charity events and summer reading programs, Don's firm has become more than a business. It's a hub for human connection. In this heartfelt conversation, Don shares how his faith, humility, and life experiences shaped not only the lawyer he became — but the man he strives to be. Watch now on YouTube HERE 🔍 What You'll Learn ✅ How Don McClure turned a small Houston firm into a community pillar ✅ Why authenticity and communication are more powerful than marketing spend ✅ How growing up in dysfunction taught him empathy and intentional living ✅ The impact of being a police officer on his approach to client care ✅ How faith and family keep him grounded in an ego-driven profession ✅ What most lawyers misunderstand about connection and communication ✅ Why being proactive with clients actually saves time — and builds trust ✅ The story behind his firm's culture of giving back (from bike giveaways to reading programs) ✅ How moving to Mexico helped him redefine "success" and "enough" 💡 Why This Episode Matters for Lawyers In an age of Google ads, SEO campaigns, and social media competition, it's easy to forget what actually matters. Don reminds us that the best marketing is genuine care — and that your character is the real differentiator. This episode is a must-listen for lawyers who: Feel burned out chasing endless growth goals Want to build a meaningful, sustainable firm that aligns with their values Are tired of the "billboard lawyer" image and want to stand out for the right reasons Believe that how you practice law matters just as much as what you practice 🧠 Key Takeaways Communication isn't just a task — it's trust in action. Your story (and your scars) can become your greatest connection point. Scaling doesn't always mean more — sometimes it means better. Clients remember how you made them feel, not how fast you settled their case. 🎙️ About That One Lawyer™ Podcast Hosted by attorney Neal Goldstein, That One Lawyer™ Podcast goes beyond legal talk. It's real lawyers having real conversations about what it takes to build a fulfilling practice — and a meaningful life. Each week, Neal interviews attorneys, entrepreneurs, and thought leaders who've redefined success in law through authenticity, empathy, and relationships. 🎧 Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube.
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What Law School Never Taught: The Real Journey of a First-Gen Lawyer | Xavier Prescod
What if law school prepared you for everything except real life? In this powerful episode of That One Lawyer™ Podcast, host Neal Goldstein sits down with Xavier Prescod — a first-generation lawyer who's rewriting what success looks like in the legal profession. Born to immigrant parents from St. Vincent and the Grenadines, Xavier grew up watching his mom work as a home health aide and his dad build homes as a carpenter. Today, he's building something of his own — a thriving career in insurance defense litigation at one of the top firms in the country. But his path wasn't paved for him. From failing his first LSAT to being the only Black male student in his law school section, Xavier had to fight imposter syndrome, push through doubt, and learn how to succeed in a system not built for him. This episode is raw, grounded, and deeply human — a must-listen for any lawyer who's ever questioned whether they belong. Watch Full Video on YouTube HERE 🔍 What You'll Learn ✅ How to turn self-doubt into determination (and why failing the LSAT was the best thing that ever happened to him) ✅ The truth about being a first-generation lawyer in today's profession ✅ What law school should teach you — but doesn't ✅ How to build real relationships across generations in the legal field ✅ The role of mentors (like Judge Latia Martin) in shaping professional identity ✅ How to overcome feeling like the "only one in the room" ✅ What younger lawyers wish older lawyers understood — and vice versa ✅ The power of kindness, collaboration, and staying authentic in a competitive field ✅ How social media can humanize lawyers — and where it can go wrong 🔑 Topics We Cover Xavier's family story and early influences His LSAT journey and the moment he realized he could actually do this Navigating law school as one of the few minority students Finding belonging through friendship, mentorship, and hard work Lessons from clerking in Bronx Supreme Court The realities of working in insurance defense How firm culture can make or break young lawyers What his generation is getting right — and wrong — about work and life Why relationships are the future of the legal profession How Neal's "one stranger a day" rule can change your career trajectory 🧠 Who This Episode Is For First-generation lawyers finding their footing in law Law students navigating imposter syndrome Young attorneys figuring out firm culture and client relationships Mentors looking to understand the next generation of lawyers Diverse attorneys and advocates for inclusion in law Anyone who believes grit, authenticity, and empathy matter more than prestige 📲 Where to Find Xavier Instagram: @x.laflame Email: [email protected] 🎙️ That One Lawyer™ Podcast is for attorneys who refuse to blend in — the ones building meaningful careers and authentic relationships.
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LAWYER BURNOUT | Ben Glass on the #1 Problem in the Legal Profession
On this episode of That One Lawyer™ Podcast, Neal Goldstein sits down with Ben Glass, attorney, author, and founder of Great Legal Marketing, to address the issue that too many lawyers face but few openly talk about: burnout. From long hours to endless client demands, lawyers often find themselves running on empty. Ben argues that burnout isn't just a personal problem — it impacts the quality of advocacy, client trust, and ultimately the entire profession. In this powerful conversation, Neal and Ben dig into: Why lawyer burnout is the #1 problem facing the profession today How lawyers can protect their energy without sacrificing results The role of purpose and passion in avoiding burnout Ben's journey in creating systems that let lawyers thrive without grinding themselves into the ground Practical steps every lawyer can take today to start building a sustainable career Watch video of full episode HERE 💡 Why this episode matters Lawyers who burn out don't just hurt themselves — they can't serve their clients effectively. The profession doesn't need more exhausted lawyers. It needs more fulfilled ones. Whether you're a law student worried about your future, a young lawyer trying to find balance, or a seasoned attorney ready to rethink your practice, this episode will help you see a path forward. 👉 Subscribe to That One Lawyer™ Podcast for more interviews with attorneys and entrepreneurs who are reshaping what it means to succeed in law.
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Laptop Lifestyle Lawyer | How Kara Vaval Built a 7-Figure Firm Without Burning Out
"It's not more work. You have to start thinking differently. Because once you start thinking differently, the work yields different results." – Kara Vaval On this episode of That One Lawyer Podcast, Neal Goldstein sits down with Kara Vaval, attorney, entrepreneur, speaker, and author, to unpack one of the most important lessons lawyers need to learn: success in law isn't about grinding harder, it's about shifting your mindset. For too long, lawyers have been told that the only path to success is longer hours, more billable time, and constant hustle. Kara challenges that outdated thinking. Instead, she explains how a true lawyer mindset shift can transform the way you practice, the way you serve clients, and ultimately, the results you're able to achieve. Watch Full Episode on YouTube HERE In this conversation, Kara and Neal go deep on topics that every young lawyer, solo practitioner, and law firm owner needs to hear: Why thinking differently creates better outcomes for both lawyers and clients The importance of aligning your practice with your values and vision How to avoid burnout by reframing the way you approach your work The difference between "more work" and "different work" — and why the latter is where growth lives Kara's personal journey from traditional lawyering to becoming a sought-after voice on mindset, marketing, and meaningful success Real strategies to help lawyers stop chasing someone else's version of success and start building practices that actually support their lives This episode is about more than just motivation. Kara offers tangible steps you can take right now to build resilience, think differently, and see real change in your practice. Whether you're a law student, a new lawyer just starting out, or a seasoned law firm owner trying to adapt to a changing profession, Kara's insights will help you rethink what's possible. Why this episode matters for lawyers Lawyers today face more pressure than ever — competition, client expectations, and the relentless pace of legal work. The lawyers who thrive are not necessarily the ones working the longest hours. They are the ones who adapt, evolve, and embrace a new way of thinking. Kara shows us that lawyers who make the mindset shift can: Attract better clients through authentic relationships Build more sustainable firms without sacrificing personal health and well-being Grow beyond traditional marketing strategies like billboards and SEO, and instead create trust and loyalty that lasts Become "that one lawyer" people think of when it matters most. About That One Lawyer Podcast Hosted by attorney Neal Goldstein, That One Lawyer Podcast isn't about Hollywood lawyers in expensive suits. It's about real lawyers having real conversations. Every week Neal talks with lawyers, business leaders, and entrepreneurs who share the stories that shaped them, the mistakes they've made, and the strategies they've used to build meaningful, client-centered practices. The podcast is designed for: Law students wondering what it's really like to practice law Young lawyers trying to stand out in a crowded field Solo and small-firm lawyers looking for marketing and growth strategies Law firm owners ready to rethink their business models Anyone who believes relationships are the true foundation of success in law Subscribe to That One Lawyer Podcast for more interviews with attorneys, law firm owners, and entrepreneurs who are changing the way law is practiced. Listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube.
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How Lin McCraw Built a Values Driven Law Firm That Gets Results | That One Lawyer Podcast
At The McCraw Law Group, compassion and integrity aren't just words on a wall. They're the foundation of how Lin McCraw has built a values-driven law firm that gets results for real people. In this episode of That One Lawyer™ Podcast, Neal Goldstein sits down with Lin McCraw to explore how filtering every decision through core values — compassion for clients and integrity in every interaction — creates a law firm that stands out. Watcht the full video on YouTube HERE Lin shares: Why treating clients as human beings, not case files, is the key to building trust. How compassion and integrity guide his firm's systems, culture, and growth. Practical steps lawyers can take to align their practice with their personal values. Why values-driven lawyering creates both better outcomes and better lives for attorneys. Whether you're a young lawyer, a solo practitioner, or a law firm owner looking for growth strategies, this conversation will show you how to build a sustainable practice that puts clients first without burning yourself out. 👉 Subscribe to That One Lawyer™ Podcast for more interviews with attorneys, law firm owners, and entrepreneurs who are changing the way law is practiced.
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Starting a Law Career Later in Life | Christopher Nicolaysen's Journey
Starting a law career later in life doesn't mean you're behind — it can mean you're better prepared. In this episode of That One Lawyer™ Podcast, host Neal Goldstein talks with Christopher Nicolaysen, co-founder of Springs Law Group in Colorado Springs, about his unconventional path into law, building a practice around authenticity, and how young and solo attorneys can grow without burning out. Christopher shares his journey of entering law later in life, what he carried from past experiences into his practice, and how staying grounded in family and fitness gives him balance. He opens up about the challenges of starting a firm, the lessons he's learned about client relationships, and why vulnerability and humility make you a better lawyer. Whether you're just starting your practice, running a small law firm, or thinking about how to make your career more sustainable, this episode is packed with insights you can apply right now. Watch Full Episode on YouTube HERE What we talk about: Intro Why Christopher Nicolaysen started law later in life Lessons from starting a firm with no "traditional" background Building Springs Law Group with authenticity and heart How fitness and family anchor his leadership What young lawyers need to know about client trust Mistakes to avoid when starting your own law practice Advice for lawyers who feel behind in their careers Closing thoughts About Christopher Nicolaysen Christopher is the co-founder of Springs Law Group, a personal injury firm in Colorado Springs. Known for his approachable leadership style and client-first mentality, he helps people rebuild after trauma while guiding his team with authenticity and care. 👉 Subscribe now for more conversations with lawyers who are growing referral-first, relationship-driven practices. 🎧 Listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube.
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From Felonies to the Courtroom: How This Lawyer Beat the Odds with Stephanie Rodriguez-Ruiz
Stephanie Rodriguez-Ruiz isn't just a personal injury lawyer — she's a former high school dropout with a felony record who went on to become a civil rights attorney, nonprofit leader, and fierce advocate for teens and marginalized communities. In this episode of That One Lawyer™ Podcast, Neal Goldstein sits down with Stephanie to unpack her unbelievable journey to the courtroom, how 12 years as a paralegal shaped her client-first approach, and what it really takes to build a legal career that matters. If you're a young or entrepreneurial lawyer wondering whether you belong — this is your episode. Watch the video on YouTube HERE What You'll Learn: How Stephanie rewrote her story after early mistakes and legal trouble Why law school doesn't define you — but grit does The power of lived experience in building client trust What most law firms get wrong about "serving the community" Why mentorship is more than a buzzword — and how she's doing it in real life How being authentic builds a reputation better than any resume Guest: Stephanie Rodriguez Ruiz Stephanie is a personal injury and civil rights attorney in Boston. She co-founded the nonprofit Leading Ladies of Boston, serves on the board of the Boston Arts Academy (which once expelled her), and is a passionate advocate for record sealing, educational equity, and mentoring teens. Host: Neal Goldstein Author of Who's In The Waiting Room? and founder of That One Lawyer™ Podcast, Neal brings real talk and practical wisdom to lawyers building meaningful careers.
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The Mindset Shift Lawyers Need Now: Bryan Kramer on Balance, Identity & Real Growth
What if burnout wasn't a failure — but a sign you're ready to grow? In this episode of That One Lawyer™ Podcast, Neal Goldstein interviews Bryan Kramer — TED speaker, best-selling author, and marketing expert — on what it means to stop performing and start living. From burnout to balance, Bryan shares the mindset shift that changed everything. Watch full video HERE 👉 Topics We Cover: Identity beyond your career Why burnout isn't weakness Mindset shifts for young lawyers Boundaries, balance & purpose Reinventing your version of success 🎧 Subscribe for more real talk, mentorship, and growth strategies for lawyers.
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Becoming a Lawyer at 50: Gretchen Nicolaysen's Story of Resilience, Mentorship & Reinvention
What does it really take to go from heartbreak and grief to passing the bar exam and building a law career — all while starting over at age 50? In this episode of That One Lawyer™ Podcast, Neal Goldstein sits down with attorney Gretchen Nicolaysen, whose inspiring story proves that it is never too late to reinvent yourself. From her early struggles as a teenager to her bold decision to pursue law school later in life, Gretchen shares the truth about what it means to face setbacks, overcome fear, and create a meaningful legal career. If you're a lawyer (or aspiring lawyer) who has ever wondered: Am I too late to start over? How do I balance resilience with the demands of law school? What role does mentorship play in shaping a law career? How can I find purpose in this profession beyond billable hours? This episode is packed with insight, encouragement, and practical wisdom. Watch the full video HERE Why You Should Listen Hear the unfiltered reality of what it's like to go through law school at 50 Learn how Gretchen turned hardship into the drive to earn her JD Discover why mentorship and community matter more than grades or prestige Find out how lawyers can redefine success and fulfillment in this profession Get inspiration to stay the course even when the odds feel stacked against you Key Topics We Cover From grief to JD: how Gretchen transformed hardship into motivation The challenges of law school as a non-traditional student Why resilience is a lawyer's greatest asset Mentorship: how to find it, how to give it, and why it matters Building a legal career after 50 — the opportunities no one talks about Advice for young lawyers (and older lawyers) about staying authentic Reinventing yourself as a professional when others doubt you Chapters Gretchen's Early Struggles and Turning Points The Decision to Go to Law School at 50 From Grief to JD: Finding Purpose Through Hardship The Importance of Mentorship in the Legal Profession Building Resilience Inside and Outside the Courtroom Challenges of Being a Non-Traditional Law Student How to Reinvent Yourself Later in Life Advice for Lawyers Seeking Meaning and Purpose Closing Thoughts: Why It's Never Too Late About the Podcast That One Lawyer™ Podcast is where lawyers, entrepreneurs, and changemakers come to talk about what really matters — building a meaningful career based on authenticity, relationships, and long-term growth. Hosted by Neal Goldstein, attorney and author of Who's in the Waiting Room?, the podcast brings you real conversations with lawyers, entrepreneurs, and leaders who refuse to blend in. Each episode is packed with mentorship, insights, and the kind of honesty you won't find in textbooks. Whether you're a law student, a millennial lawyer, or a seasoned attorney searching for more meaning in your practice, this podcast is your place to learn, be inspired, and connect with the stories that remind us why we chose this profession in the first place. This show is for lawyers who want to stop playing the game the way they were taught and start building a career (and life) that actually works.
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He secured over $3 Billion for 9/11 Heroes & Victims: Michael Barasch's Journey and Advice for Lawyers
What if the defining case of your career was born from tragedy and changed everything? Michael Barasch never planned to be a lawyer. But unexpected turns, relentless advocacy, and a deep personal connection to his clients turned him into one of the most recognized voices for both 9/11 first responders and civilian survivors. As managing partner of Barasch & McGarry, Michael and his team have helped secure over $3 billion in compensation and lifetime healthcare for thousands of people through the 9/11 Victim Compensation Fund from firefighters and police officers to teachers, downtown residents, and families who lost loved ones. Watch the Full Video on YouTube HERE In this episode of That One Lawyer™ Podcast, Neal Goldstein talks with Michael about: How he went from reluctant law student to 9/11 legal advocate The career moments that changed his path forever Why networking and relationships can matter more than grades or résumés Behind-the-scenes of passing the Zadroga Act and securing long-term healthcare funding How his firm built trust with thousands of clients during their most difficult moments What it takes to lobby Congress as a trial lawyer Why being part of the community you serve changes everything 💡 WHO THIS IS FOR: Lawyers who want to use their careers for impact, not just income Millennial attorneys looking for career clarity and inspiration PI lawyers who want to build a client-centered practice Legal professionals curious about public interest law and advocacy Anyone who believes the law can be a force for good 💬 MICHAEL BARASCH ON PURPOSE: "I keep thinking there are so many people out there who still don't realize that they're eligible… That brings me so much satisfaction… That feels so good. So no, I don't get tired. I'm just always energized by who else can I reach." 👤 ABOUT MICHAEL BARASCH Michael Barasch is the managing partner of Barasch & McGarry in New York City, the leading law firm representing 9/11 first responders and survivors. Over the past two decades, he and his team have helped secure more than $3 billion in awards through the 9/11 Victim Compensation Fund. A cancer survivor himself, Michael has turned his firm into a mission-driven practice focused on justice, healthcare, and advocacy for those exposed to the toxic aftermath of 9/11. 🌐 Learn more: 911victims.com 🎙️ ABOUT THE PODCAST That One Lawyer™ Podcast is where lawyers, entrepreneurs, and changemakers come to talk about what really matters building a meaningful career based on authenticity, relationships, and long-term growth. Hosted by Neal Goldstein, this show is for lawyers who want to stop playing the game the way they were taught and start building a career (and life) that actually works. 📌 WANT MORE LIKE THIS? 🟢 Subscribe to the channel for new episodes every week 🟢 Leave a comment with your favorite insight from Michael 🟢 Share this video with a lawyer who needs a new perspective
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Using Gratitude to Build Client Trust & Grow a Law Practice with Chris Schembra on That One Lawyer Podcast
What if the key to standing out as a lawyer is not in your rates, your referrals, or your résumé... but in how you make people feel? In this episode of That One Lawyer™ Podcast, host Neal Goldstein interviews Chris Schembra, Wall Street Journal best-selling author of Gratitude and Pasta and Gratitude Through Hard Times, and founder of the 7:47 Gratitude Experience™. Chris shares how lawyers can use gratitude and emotional intelligence to build deeper trust, create unforgettable client experiences, and grow a practice built on authentic relationships. Chris has helped over 500,000 leaders around the world strengthen connection using the science of gratitude. His work has impacted over 200 companies, earned 2 Emmy Awards, and been featured in Forbes, Harvard Business Review, Entrepreneur, and USA Today. Now, he is helping lawyers do the same, because in a competitive industry, how you connect matters more than ever. Whether you are a young attorney just starting out or a seasoned lawyer ready to change how you build your firm, this episode will change how you think about relationships and success. Watch the Full Video HERE 🎯 What You'll Learn: Why gratitude is a game-changer for lawyers who want long-term growth How to build deeper trust in just one client conversation Chris's neuroscience-backed approach to client loyalty and referrals Real prompts you can use this week to create stronger relationships Why most law firm marketing overlooks the emotional element How to move past transactional relationships and create real moments of value The hidden cost of avoiding emotional intelligence as a lawyer How gratitude works for litigators, solopreneurs, and everyone in between ✅ Subscribe to That One Lawyer™ Podcast ✅ Like this video and comment your biggest takeaway ✅ Share with your firm or legal team 👤 About the Guest: Chris Schembra is the founder of the 7:47 Gratitude Experience™, a best-selling author, keynote speaker, and relationship-building expert. Known as the "Gratitude Guru" by USA Today, Chris is on a mission to help leaders foster deeper human connection in work and life. His books Gratitude and Pasta and Gratitude Through Hard Times explore how thankfulness can reshape everything from mental health to business growth. Chris has created award-winning experiences for organizations like Dell, LVMH, Microsoft, and the United States Veterans Chamber of Commerce. He is a founding member of the Rolling Stone Culture Council and his work has been featured in The Wall Street Journal, Inc., NBC, Fox News, Forbes, Entrepreneur, and more. 🧠 Chapters What is gratitude-based lawyering The science behind emotional intelligence and trust The 7:47 Gratitude framework in action How to deepen client loyalty without spending more money Why young lawyers are missing this Building a values-first law firm From lead generation to client connection Practical gratitude habits for busy lawyers Chris's final challenge for every attorney 📘 Grab "Gratitude and Pasta" on Amazon! 🌐 Website → https://www.747club.org/ 🎙️ ABOUT THE PODCAST That One Lawyer™ Podcast is where lawyers, entrepreneurs, and changemakers come to talk about what really matters, building a meaningful career based on authenticity, relationships, and long-term growth. Hosted by Neal Goldstein, this show is for lawyers who want to stop playing the game the way they were taught and start building a career (and life) that actually works. 📌 WANT MORE LIKE THIS? 🟢 Subscribe to the channel for new episodes every week 🟢 Leave a comment with your favorite insight from Chris 🟢 Share this episode with a lawyer who needs a new perspective
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How John Fisher Built a Personal Injury Empire by Doing the Opposite of Everyone Else
What if everything you were told about growing a successful law firm was wrong? In this episode of That One Lawyer™ Podcast, host Neal Goldstein sits down with John Fisher — a nationally recognized personal injury attorney, bestselling author of The Power of a System, and the founder of a referral-only law firm — to reveal the exact strategies that helped him build an empire by doing the opposite of what most lawyers are taught. John didn't spend a dime on Google Ads. He doesn't chase ambulance leads. He doesn't rely on gimmicks. Instead, he doubled down on systems, referrals, client trust, and thought leadership to create a sustainable, purpose-driven business model that has transformed the lives of countless attorneys and clients. WATCH FULL EPSISOD ON YOUTUBE HERE 🔥 IN THIS EPISODE: How John Fisher scaled his personal injury law firm Why he chose to focus exclusively on medical malpractice — and what niche marketing really means The 3 systems that changed everything for his business How to become a magnet for lawyer referrals without asking The story behind The Power of a System and why he wrote it for lawyers Why he believes your legacy is more important than your verdicts How to build a reputation without flashy branding What most lawyers misunderstand about content, connection, and client experience 💡 WHO THIS IS FOR: Solo and small firm attorneys who want more control and less chaos Lawyers sick of chasing leads and ready to build a business that attracts PI attorneys who want to grow a referral-based practice Legal entrepreneurs who want to scale their firm with integrity, not gimmicks Anyone who wants to design a law firm that works for their life, not just their bank account 💬 JOHN FISHER ON LEGACY: "I don't care about being the guy who had the biggest verdict. I want to be remembered as someone who helped lawyers build their dream lives." 👤 ABOUT JOHN FISHER John Fisher is a personal injury and medical malpractice attorney, author, and law firm growth strategist. His book, The Power of a System, has become a must-read for lawyers across the country who are tired of burnout and ready to take control of their practices. John runs John H. Fisher, P.C., a boutique firm in upstate New York that handles complex med-mal cases. He's also the creator of the Mastermind Experience, a private network for forward-thinking lawyers. 📘 Grab The Power of a System on Amazon 🌐 Website → https://www.fishermalpracticelaw.com 🎙️ ABOUT THE PODCAST That One Lawyer™ Podcast is where lawyers, entrepreneurs, and changemakers come to talk about what really matters — building a meaningful career based on authenticity, relationships, and long-term growth. Hosted by Neal Goldstein, this show is for lawyers who want to stop playing the game the way they were taught and start building a career (and life) that actually works. 📌 WANT MORE LIKE THIS? 🟢 Subscribe to the channel for new episodes every week 🟢 Leave a comment with your favorite insight from John 🟢 Share this video with a lawyer who needs a new perspective
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How Heather Reese Built a Personal Injury Brand That Breaks Every Rule
What happens when a Latina lawyer builds a brand that's unapologetically bold, wildly authentic, and nothing like the firm next door? You get Heather Reese. In this episode of That One Lawyer™ Podcast, we're sitting down with Heather, a personal injury lawyer, fashion-forward disruptor, and advocate for doing law your own way. Heather is not here to fit in. She is here to change the game. Heather didn't come up through Big Law. She didn't play it safe. And she didn't shape-shift into someone else's idea of what a lawyer should be. Instead, she embraced her culture, her creativity, and her community and built a PI practice that actually reflects who she is. If you're a solo lawyer, millennial attorney, law student, or small-firm owner trying to grow a personal brand that feels honest and impactful, you'll find something real in this conversation. Watch the full episode on YouTube HERE In this episode, we cover: How Heather turned her "nontraditional" presence into a professional superpower The power of showing up as yourself in the courtroom, online, and everywhere else Why personal injury lawyers need branding just as much as trial skills The emotional cost of trying to hide who you are just to be taken seriously Tips for lawyers navigating burnout, imposter syndrome, or the pressure to conform How social media helped Heather grow her reach without losing her voice What she wants every first-gen or minority law student to hear before graduation Why This Episode Matters: The legal field is full of unspoken rules. Don't be too loud. Don't wear that. Don't say that. Don't stand out too much. But for lawyers like Heather, women of color, solo practitioners, or anyone building from scratch, those rules often mean erasing your identity just to succeed. Heather flips that narrative. She shows us what it looks like when you stop editing yourself for approval and start building something real. Her story is both a strategy session and a permission slip for lawyers ready to lead differently. About Heather Reese: Heather Reese is a Philadelphia-based personal injury attorney, speaker, and digital creator known for her unfiltered voice, fearless presence, and commitment to helping people feel seen and heard both in and out of the courtroom. Whether she is mentoring future Latina lawyers or rocking the runway in a power suit, Heather is a movement. Her law practice is grounded in justice, representation, and showing up with heart. She proves you don't need to dim your light to do meaningful work. 📲 Follow Heather on Instagram: @heather_rxoxo If you loved this conversation, here's how you can support That One Lawyer™ Podcast: ✅ Subscribe wherever you listen 🎧 Watch the full episode on YouTube HERE ⭐️ Leave a review to help others find the show 📢 Share this episode with a law student or solo lawyer who needs it
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Storytelling to Humanize Lawyers and Build a Legal Community | That One Lawyer Podcast
Description: Benny Gold never planned to start a movement. He just wanted lawyers to feel less alone. What began as a storytelling project turned into Lawyer Stories, a global platform with over 50,000 followers that connects lawyers and law students through honest, human stories. In this episode, Benny shares how storytelling became the foundation of a thriving legal brand and why sharing your truth might be the most powerful thing you can do as a lawyer today. Watch the full video on YouTube HERE What You'll Learn in This Episode: The story behind the creation of Lawyer Stories Why authenticity connects more than accolades How to build community in a traditionally isolating profession Tips for growing a legal brand on social media Why lawyers should stop hiding the human side of their journey Quote from Benny: "When lawyers share their stories, they connect. That connection builds trust and that trust changes everything." Benjamin Gold Guest Bio: Benjamin "Benny" Gold is the founder of Lawyer Stories, a global community and media platform that shares the journeys of legal professionals around the world. Benny started Lawyer Stories to give lawyers a space to tell their stories, build relationships, and shift the culture of the profession toward more authenticity and empathy. Instagram: @lawyer_stories Website: https://www.lawyerstories.com ✅ Call to Action: Subscribe to That One Lawyer™ wherever you listen. Leave a review if this conversation resonated with you. Watch the full video on YouTube: HERE
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How Mitch Jackson Uses AI and Authenticity to Grow a Modern Law Practice | That One Lawyer Podcast
Mitch Jackson is proof that technology does not have to replace human connection. It can enhance it. In this first episode of That One Lawyer™ Podcast, Mitch shares how he has stayed ahead of the curve by embracing emerging tools like AI while staying grounded in the core values that matter most: trust, empathy, and real client relationships. Whether you are a new lawyer, a solo practitioner, or a seasoned litigator navigating the digital shift, this conversation is packed with valuable insights into how to lead with innovation while staying grounded in what matters most. Watch the full video on YouTube HERE What You'll Learn in This Episode: How Mitch got started using AI in a high-stakes litigation practice Why authenticity matters more than marketing gimmicks How to balance legal tradition with digital innovation What young lawyers should know about staying future-ready Why clients choose lawyers they trust, not just lawyers with the best résumé Quote from Mitch: "People don't care how much you know until they know how much you care — and AI doesn't change that. It just gives us new ways to show up." Mitch Jackson Guest Bio: Mitch Jackson is a California trial lawyer who has been recognized as Orange County Trial Lawyer of the Year and California Litigation Lawyer of the Year. He is a nationally known advocate for legal innovation, digital communication, and relationship-based lawyering. Mitch has been featured in major publications including Forbes, INC, and The Wall Street Journal for his work at the intersection of law, technology, and human connection. In addition to his law practice, Mitch writes regularly on his Substack newsletter, Streaming Lawyer, where he shares insights on AI, digital transformation, and building trust in a virtual world. His content is designed for lawyers, professionals, and anyone interested in staying ahead of the curve without losing their core values. Substack: Mitch's Substack - Uncensored Objection ✅ Call to Action: Subscribe to That One Lawyer™ wherever you listen. Leave a review if you enjoyed the episode. Watch the full video on YouTube: HERE
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Welcome to That One Lawyer™ - Here's What's Coming
The truth is… you won't learn how to grow a thriving law practice from a textbook. But on That One Lawyer™ Podcast, you'll get the real-world strategies and relationship-driven advice that actually work. Hosted by attorney and bestselling author Neal Goldstein, this is the podcast for lawyers who are ready to stand out, get clients who stick, and build a business that feels like their own. Full episodes begin Wednesday, July 16. New episodes will be released weekly. Follow now so you don't miss a thing.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
The truth is, law school never taught lawyers how to build the kind of client relationships that create real success.That One Lawyer™ Podcast, hosted by attorney and bestselling author Neal A. Goldstein, helps lawyers and professionals grow their practices through authenticity, trust, and real connection. If you're trying to grow your law firm, stand out in your market, or simply figure out what's next, this show is for you.Neal brings nearly 40 years of courtroom and client experience to every episode, alongside honest conversations with lawyers, entrepreneurs, and leaders who know that real growth starts with real relationships. Forget the flashy marketing gimmicks — you'll get relationship-first strategies, business-building advice, and mentorship that actually makes sense in the real world.Whether you're a solo attorney, firm owner, or just getting started, tune in for insights and stories that remind you why authenticity still wins.New episodes every Wednesday.For more, visit
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