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That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast
by Exactly Right and iHeartPodcasts
Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere.
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Constricted w/ Zak Orth
Today, Liza and Kara tackle the episode “Constricted” (Season 26, Episode 4) and the real-life issue of increasing numbers of youth sexual non-fatal (and fatal) strangulation cases. Plus, they have a lovely chat with the amazing Zak Orth. SOURCES:BBC 1BBC 2Psychology Today 1Psychology Today 2News MedicalAlliance for HOPE International WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:How to talk to kids about porn Next week’s episode will be “Bound” (Season 5, Episode 23). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Mea Culpa w/ George Newbern
This week, Liza and Kara break down the SVU episode, “Mea Culpa” (Season 20, Episode 9) and discuss the infamous murder of Stanford White by Harry Kendall Thaw following the rape of Evelyn Nesbit. Plus, they interview the wonderful George Newbern. SOURCES:BBCThe New York TimesWikipedia - Evelyn NesbitLibrary of CongressAvenue Magazine WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:The Tragic Life of Evelyn Nesbit: The Murder That Shocked America Next week’s episode will be “Constricted” (Season 26, Episode 4). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Recall
Today, Kara and Liza discuss the SVU episode “Recall” (Season 8, Episode 3) and investigate the horrific crimes and lack of justice involved with the case of serial rapist Melvin Carter (a.k.a. "The College Terrace Rapist"). SOURCES:CNNSeattle Post-IntelligencerOrlando SentinelWIS News 10The Seattle TimesLong Beach Press-TelegramThe Mercury NewsThe New York TimesSFGATE13WHAM ABC RochesterDivision of Criminal Justice Services - New York StateCountry of Livingston, New YorkThe Daily News WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:We're told eyewitness testimony isn't reliable. But new science says it might be Next week’s episode will be “Mea Culpa” (Season 20, Episode 9). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Redemption in Her Corner
This week, Liza and Kara recap the episode “Redemption in Her Corner” (Season 21, Episode 13) and discuss the case involving Jamill Jones fatally one-punching Sandor Szabo. SOURCES:The New York State Senate 1The New York State Senate 2True Crime NewsPIX11 NewsESPNPeopleThe News & ObserverLos Angeles TimesThe New York Times WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:YWCA USA Next week’s episode will be “Recall" (Season 8, Episode 3). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Deadly Ambition w/ Carolyn McCormick
Today, Kara and Liza tackle the episode “Deadly Ambition” (Season 14, Episode 15) and the confounding Tracy Roberson case. Plus, they have a lovely chat with the iconic Carolyn McCormick. SOURCES:NBC NewsABC NewsABC7 AmarilloCourt Of Appeals Second District Of Texas Fort WorthFort Worth Star-Telegram WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:The Mental Health Coalition Next week’s episode will be “Redemption in Her Corner” (Season 21, Episode 13). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Father Dearest w/ Eric Close
This week, Liza and Kara break down the SVU episode, “Father Dearest” (Season 13, Episode 20) and discuss the real-life story of prolific sperm donor Ben Seisler. Plus, they interview the delightful Eric Close. SOURCES:Daily MailSalonWikipedia - Genetic sexual attractionWikipedia - Westermarck effectABC7TimeCenter for Genetics and Society WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Families Rising Next week’s episode will be “Deadly Ambition” (Season 14, Episode 15). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Great Expectations w/ Lincoln Melcher
Today, Kara and Liza discuss the hockey-related episode “Great Expectations” (Season 18, Episode 11) and investigate the case of Thomas Junta murdering another hockey Dad at a children’s pickup game. Plus, they chat with the wonderful Lincoln Melcher. SOURCES:The New York TimesCNNNBC SportsTelegram & GazetteCBS News WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Hockey Diversity Alliance Next week’s episode will be “Father Dearest” (Season 13, Episode 20). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Reasonable Doubt w/ Bradley Whitford
This week, Liza and Kara recap the episode “Reasonable Doubt” (Season 15, Episode 22) and discuss the predatory history of the infamous film director Woody Allen. Plus, they have a wonderful conversation with the magnificent Bradley Whitford. SOURCES:Wikipedia - Woody Allen sexual abuse allegationVanity Fair 1Vanity Fair 2Vanity Fair 3The New York Times 1The New York Times 2mosesfarrow.blogspot.comVultureLos Angeles TimesWikipedia - Roman Polanski WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:My Father, Woody Allen, and the Danger of Questions Unasked Next week’s episode will be “Great Expectations" (Season 18, Episode 11). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hothouse w/ Aya Cash
Today, Kara and Liza tackle the episode “Hothouse” (Season 10, Episode 12) and the disturbing real-life murder of teenager Kirsten Costas. Plus, they have a lovely chat with the wonderful Aya Cash (The Boys, You're the Worst). SOURCES:Los Angeles TimesThe New York TimesTimeUnited Press International WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:SAMHSA’s National Helpline Next week’s episode will be “Reasonable Doubt” (Season 15, Episode 22). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Sophomore Jinx w/ Lothaire Bluteau
This week, Liza and Kara go way back to season one to cover the episode, “Sophomore Jinx” (Season 1, Episode 6). They also discuss the date rape case of Katie Koestner and her ongoing legacy. Plus, they interview the talented Lothaire Bluteau. SOURCES:Wikipedia - Murder of Jeanne CleryWikipedia - Katie KoestnerTime 1Time 2katiekoestner.comThe Flat HatBBCThe Daily Item WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Take Back the Night Next week’s episode will be “Hothouse” (Season 10, Episode 12). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Cold w/ Judith McCreary
Today, Kara and Liza discuss the episode “Cold” (Season 9, Episode 19) and investigate the case of Gerard Schaefer a.k.a. "The Killer Cop." Plus, they chat with the prolific writer of this very SVU episode, the amazing Judith McCreary. SOURCES:ABC 13The New York TimesTampa Bay TimesVidocq SocietyPolice1CBS NewsMinnPostKIRO 7Medium WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Vidocq Society Next week’s episode will be “Sophomore Jinx” (Season 1, Episode 6). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Pursuit
In this episode, Liza and Kara recap “Pursuit” (Season 12, Episode 17). Plus, they discuss the phenomenon of To Catch a Predator and the prolific serial killer Gary Ridgway a.k.a. "The Green River Killer." SOURCES:Wikipedia - To Catch a PredatorWikipedia - Gary RidgwayABC NewsThe Washington Postall that’s interestingThe New York TimesPeople WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Predators (2025) Next week’s episode will be “Cold" (Season 9, Episode 19). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Let Me Bring Pardon
Today, Kara and Liza tackle the episode “Let Me Bring Pardon” (Season 26, Episode 16). Plus, they discuss the disgusting crimes perpetrated by Nathan Sutherland at the Hacienda HealthCare facility. SOURCES:ViceNBC NewsABC World NewsThe Arizona RepublicThe IndependentSlateWikipedia - Hacienda HealthCare sexual abuse case WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:How Sexual Assault First Aid Revolutionizes Prevention Next week’s episode will be “Pursuit” (Season 12, Episode 17). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Responsible w/ Leven Rambin
This week, Kara and Liza cover the episode,“Responsible” (Season 8, Episode 18), discuss the case of sexual predator and former teacher Debra Lafave, and interview the wonderful Leven Rambin. SOURCES:ABC NewsCNNThe GuardianThe Today ShowNBC NewsBradenton HeraldPeople 1People 2Tampa Bay TimesWLTX19 WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:FindTreatment.gov Next week’s episode will be “Let Me Bring Pardon” (Season 26, Episode 16). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Dance, Lies and Videotape
Today, Kara and Liza discuss the episode “Dance, Lies and Videotape” (Season 21, Episode 17). Plus, they investigate the Alexandra Waterbury case involving ballet and the non-consensual sharing of explicit images. SOURCES:BBCABC7NYNew York Post 1New York Post 2The New York Times 1The New York Times 2The New York Times 3The New York Times 4The New York Times 5 WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Stand With MinnesotaImmigrant Law Center of MinnesotaMid-Minnesota Legal Aid Next week’s episode will be “Let Me Bring Pardon” (Season 26, Episode 16). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Spooked w/ Vincent Spano
In this episode, Liza and Kara recap the episode, “Spooked” (Season 11, Episode 6), discuss the tragic Rachel Hoffman case, and interview the fantastic Vincent Spano. SOURCES:Wikipedia - Murder of Rachel HoffmanThe New YorkerABC NewsTallahassee DemocratWikipedia - Operation MongooseWikipedia - Operation NorthwoodsWikipedia - Los Zetas WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:The Throwaways by Sarah Stillman Next week’s episode will be “Dance, Lies and Videotape" (Season 21, Episode 17). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Ripped
Today, Kara and Liza tackle the episode “Ripped” (Season 7, Episode 4). Plus, they discuss the tragic, steroids-related suicide of teenager Taylor Hooton. SOURCES:The New York Times WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Performance-enhancing drugs: Know the risks Next week’s episode will be “Spooked” (Season 11, Episode 6). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Rorschach w/ Jama Williamson
This week, Liza and Kara cover the episode,“Rorschach” (Season 26, Episode 6), discuss the horrific murder of Gabby Petito, and interview the delightful Jama Williamson. SOURCES:Wikipedia - Killing of Gabby PetitoAmerican Murder: Gabby PetitoForbesThe New York Times 1The New York Times 2 WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Gabby Petito Foundation Next week’s episode will be “Ripped” (Season 7, Episode 4). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Chicago Crossover w/ Sophia Bush
Today, Kara and Liza discuss the SVU/ Chicago P.D. crossover episode, “Chicago Crossover” (Season 16, Episode 7). They dissect the horrific Norwich sexual abuse ring. Plus, they chat with the iconic Sophia Bush. SOURCES:BBCThe GuardianIrish MirrorDuncan Lewis Solicitors WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:National Runaway Safeline Next week’s episode will be “Rorschach” (Season 26, Episode 6). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Wrath
In this episode, Liza and Kara recap the depressing episode,“Wrath” (Season 3, Episode 2). Plus, they discuss “body farms” and "The St. Albans Poisoner,” Graham Young. SOURCES:FBI.govAll Criminal Justice SchoolsWikipedia - Graham YoungBiography.comThe TimesThe Guardian WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:The Psychological Impact of Wrongful Imprisonment Next week’s episode will be “Chicago Crossover" (Season 16, Episode 7). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Death in Apartment 603: What Happened to Ellen Greenberg? w/ Director Nancy Schwartzman
This week, Kara and Liza do something a little different. Instead of an SVU episode, they cover the fascinating new docuseries “Death in Apartment 603: What Happened to Ellen Greenberg?” Plus, they chat with director Nancy Schwartzman. SOURCES:CNNWikipedia - Death of Ellen GreenbergDeath in Apartment 603: What Happened to Ellen Greenberg?People WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Death in Apartment 603: What Happened to Ellen Greenberg? Next week’s episode will be “Wrath” (Season 3, Episode 2). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Pop w/ Audrie Neenan
In this week’s episode, Kara and Liza tackle the episode “Pop” (Season 12, Episode 11), discuss the "Fight Club" phenomenon caused by the book and movie, and interview the legendary Audrie Neenan. SOURCES:The New YorkerHuffPostABC NewsNew York PostCourthouse News ServiceJustia U.S. LawLos Angeles TimesDuluth News Tribune WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:LiveYourDream.org Next week, Kara and Liza will be covering the docuseries, “Death in Apartment 603: What Happened to Ellen Greenberg?” Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Misleader
This week, Liza and Kara cover the episode, “Misleader” (Season 1, Episode 17), and discuss the scandalous George Roche III affair at Hillsdale College. SOURCES:Vanity FairThe New York TimesWikipedia - George Roche IIIWikipedia - Hillsdale CollegeNational Review WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Toys For Tots Next week’s episode will be “Pop” (Season 12, Episode 11). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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They'd Already Disappeared w/ Blake DeLong
Today, Kara and Liza discuss the SVU episode “They'd Already Disappeared” (Season 23, Episode 7). They investigate multiple cases, including the infamous Anatoly Moskvin and his 29 mummified human dolls. And to cleanse the palate, they interview the incredibly talented Blake DeLong. SOURCES:Texas Department of Public SafetyFBI.govThe CutBBCThe SunThe New York TimesWikipedia - Harrison GrahamThe GuardianCNNCBC 1CBC 2 WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:‎Dollmaker:The Anatoly Moskvin Story Next week’s episode will be “Misleader” (Season 1, Episode 17). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Blast
This week, Liza and Kara recap the wild episode,“Blast” (Season 7, Episode 13), and discuss two crimes - the horrific Marion Parker case and the insane North Hollywood shootout. SOURCES:Wikipedia - Murder of Marion ParkerChattanooga Daily TimesVisalia Times-DeltaAlbany Democrat-HeraldButterfly in the RainWikipedia - North Hollywood shootoutNBC Los AngelesLos Angeles Times WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:No Kid Hungry Next week’s episode will be “They'd Already Disappeared" (Season 23, Episode 7). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Desperate w/ Rob Estes
In this week’s episode, Kara and Liza tackle “Desperate” (Season 4, Episode 18), discuss the fascinating life of activist Faye Yager, and interview the iconic Rob Estes (Melrose Place). SOURCES:NYCLUFBI.gov 1FBI.gov 2Florida Department of Law EnforcementThe New York Times 1The New York Times 2The New York Times 3The New York Times 4The New York Times 5The New York Times 6A & EChild Abuse Solutions, IncNewsweekWikipedia - Faye Yager WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Underground Railroad, Inc. Next week’s episode will be “Blast” (Season 7, Episode 13). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Genes w/ Michael Torpey
This week, Liza and Kara cover the episode,“Genes” (Season 18, Episode 13), discuss the blackout murders perpetrated by Paul Cox, and interview the delightful Michael Torpey. SOURCES:The New York Times 1The New York Times 2The New York Times 3Encyclopedia.comThe GuardianNew York Daily NewsCOX v. MILLER (2002) WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Is Sexual Offending Genetic? By Will Davies Next week’s episode will be “Desperate” (Season 4, Episode 18). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Russian Love Poem
Today, Kara and Liza discuss the early SVU episode “Russian Love Poem” (Season 1, Episode 12) and dissect the vicious bludgeoning of the Atlanta millionaire Lance Herndon. SOURCES:NBC NewsNBCUnited Press InternationalOrlando SentinelBETThe Atlanta Journal-ConstitutionTampa Bay TimesNPRPublishers WeeklyBaugh V. State (2003)Court TVMurderpedia WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:The Real Murders of Atlanta Next week’s episode will be “Genes” (Season 18, Episode 13). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Rape Interrupted w/ Anna Osceola
This week, Liza and Kara recap “Rape Interrupted” (Season 18, Episode 5), discuss the horrific Brock Turner case, and interview the wonderful Anna Osceola. SOURCES:The Washington PostAssociated PressStanford MagazineCNNVoxThe New YorkerThe GuardianWikipedia - People v. TurnerBuzzfeed NewsHuffpost WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Know My Name: A MemoirMagnolia Wu Unfolds It All Next week’s episode will be “Russian Love Poem" (Season 1, Episode 12). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Probability of Doom w/ Sarah Lynn Marion
In this week’s episode, Kara and Liza tackle “Probability of Doom” (Season 25, Episode 7), discuss the sympathetic crimes of Brigitte Harris, and interview the delightful Sarah Lynn Marion. SOURCES:PeopleNBC NewsWikipedia - Sheila LaBarreThe New York Times 1The New York Times 2Staten Island AdvanceNew York Magazine 1New York Magazine 2 WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Rising Ground Next week’s episode will be “Rape Interrupted” (Season 18, Episode 5). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Closure (Part I & II)
This week, Kara and Liza cover a two-part episode,“Closure” (Part I & II) (Season 1, Episode 10 & Season 2, Episode 3), and discuss the crimes of two different horrific rapists - Isaac Jones (a.k.a. "The Bronx Rapist") and Ronnie Shelton (a.k.a. "The West Side Rapist"). SOURCES:United Press InternationalThe New York Times 1The New York Times 2New York Daily NewsNew York Post 1New York Post 2WKYCWFMJAssociated PressCleveland.comReddit WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:RAINN Next week’s episode will be “Probability of Doom” (Season 25, Episode 7). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Rotten w/ Terry Serpico
Today, Liza and Kara discuss the episode “Rotten” (Season 4, Episode 13), analyze the grisly crimes of serial killer Manuel Pardo, and interview the legendary Terry Serpico. SOURCES:New York Daily News 1New York Daily News 2Wikipedia - Assault of Abner LouimaThe New York Times 1The New York Times 2CNNNBC NewsWikipedia - Manuel Pardo (serial killer)Ask MenThe Huffington Post WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:National Police Accountability Project (NPAP) Next week’s episodes will be “Closure (Part I & II)” (Season 1, Episode 10 & Season 2, Episode 3). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Prima Nocta w/ Elizabeth Paige
This week, Liza and Kara recap “Prima Nocta” (Season 25, Episode 11), discuss the case involving Jennifer Wilbanks (a.k.a. "The Runaway Bride"), and interview the lovely Elizabeth Paige. SOURCES:PeopleNBC NewsCBS NewsWikipedia - Runaway bride case WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Black and Missing Foundation Next week’s episode will be “Rotten" (Season 4, Episode 13). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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All Pain Is One Malady w/ Kadia Saraf
In this week’s episode, Kara and Liza tackle “All Pain Is One Malady” (Season 24, Episode 22), discuss the wild Michelle Hadley “Rape Fantasy” case, and interview the wonderful Kadia Saraf (Dexter: Resurrection). SOURCES:Manhattan DANBC News 1NBC News 2United States Attorney’s Office: Eastern District of CaliforniaU.S. Department of Justice Office of the Inspector General WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Dateline - Diabolical Next week’s episode will be “Prima Nocta” (Season 25, Episode 11). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Wannabe
This week, Kara and Liza cover the SVU episode “Wannabe” (Season 11, Episode 23) and discuss the insane behavior of fake cop Vincent Richardson. SOURCES:CBS News 1CBS News 2CBS News 3WTTWFox 32 ChicagoWGN TVChicago TribuneENews Park Forest WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Fathers’ UpLift Next week’s episode will be “All Pain Is One Malady” (Season 24, Episode 22). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Dare
Today, Kara and Liza discuss the episode “Dare” (Season 19, Episode 16), the tragic death of former SVU actor Isabella Grasso, and the heinous details of Dr. Michael Mastromarino’s human tissue-stealing scheme. SOURCES:ABC7 New YorkNewsdayPatchNPR WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:OrganDonor.gov Next week’s episode will be “Wannabe” (Season 11, Episode 23). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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In Loco Parentis w/ Ryann Shane
This week, Kara and Liza recap “In Loco Parentis” (Season 19, Episode 15), discuss the Nikki Yovino case, and interview the actress Ryann Shane (Banshee, Lights Out). SOURCES:6ABCABC7 New YorkAP NewsThe Washington TimesBETNews Channel 9JustiaState of Connecticut Judicial Branch WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Campus Sexual Violence Resource List Next week’s episode will be “Dare" (Season 19, Episode 16). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Conned w/ Ally Walker
In this week’s episode, Liza and Kara tackle “Conned” (Season 11, Episode 19), discuss the outrageous crimes of con artist Christian Karl Gerhartsreiter, and interview the fabulous Ally Walker. SOURCES:Vanity FairCNN 1CNN 2ABC NewsThe New York Times 1The New York Times 2Wikipedia - Christian GerhartsreiterThe Boston GlobeLos Angeles TimesEmpowerment Ave.PeopleWikipedia - Mary Kay Letourneau WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Grooming: Know the Warning Signs Next week’s episode will be “In Loco Parentis” (Season 19, Episode 15). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Street Revenge w/ Michael Rispoli
This week, Kara and Liza cover the SVU episode “Street Revenge” (Season 13, Episode 19), discuss the Rain City Superhero Movement, and interview the wonderful Michael Rispoli. SOURCES:The WeekKUOWRLSH WikiSlateWikipedia - SlutWalkSlutWalk PeoriaThe EscapistThe Fall of Phoenix JonesCNN WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Responding to the Incel Ideology Next week’s episode will be “Conned” (Season 11, Episode 19). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Shock Collar w/ JJ Pyle
Today, Liza and Kara discuss the episode “Shock Collar” (Season 26, Episode 20), investigate the disturbing case involving the YouTube channel FamilyOFive, and interview the delightful JJ Pyle. SOURCES:Fox 29People 1People 2Daily VoiceNew York MagazineWikipedia - DaddyOFiveWTOP NewsStarcasmOfficialFamilyOFive.com WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:American Humane Society Next week’s episode will be “Street Revenge” (Season 13, Episode 19). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Wet w/ David Krumholtz
This week, Liza and Kara recap the wild episode “Wet” (Season 12, Episode 5), discuss the 1986 "Jack the Snipper" case in Los Angeles, and interview the magnificent David Krumholtz. SOURCES:Los Angeles TimesUnited Press International 1United Press International 2SFGATEWikipedia - Cordelia BotkinKings River Life Magazine WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Teacher Wishlists Next week’s episode will be “Shock Collar" (Season 26, Episode 20). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Trick-Rolled at the Moulin
In this week’s episode, Kara and Liza tackle “Trick-Rolled at the Moulin” (Season 22, Episode 13) and discuss the outrageous crimes committed by a group of exotic dancers at the Scores strip club in New York. SOURCES:WSB-TV 1WSB-TV 2Athens Banner-HeraldFox 23Fox 5 AtlantaMarietta Daily JournalHerald GazetteThe CutTimeVultureEntertainment Weekly WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Narcotics Anonymous Next week’s episode will be “Wet” (Season 12, Episode 5). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Betrayal's Climax w/ Fiona Robert
This week, Liza and Kara cover the SVU episode “Betrayal's Climax” (Season 15, Episode 13), discuss the rape conviction of a Virginian MS-13 gang member, and interview the wonderful actor and filmmaker Fiona Robert. SOURCES: Richmond Times-Dispatch United States Attorney’s Office - Eastern District of Virginia 1 United States Attorney’s Office - Eastern District of Virginia 2 Wikipedia - MS-13 WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Homeboy Industries Next week’s episode will be “Trick-Rolled at the Moulin” (Season 22, Episode 13). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Anchor
Today, Kara and Liza discuss the episode “Anchor” (Season 11, Episode 10), the offensive concept of “Anchor Babies,” and the horrific, racially motivated murder of Vincent Chin. SOURCES:OxygenThe New York TimesNew York PostThe University of New Mexico - Asian American Pacific Islander Resource CenterJustiaCNNNBC NewsMITDetroit Free PressThe Guardian WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Stop AAPI Hate Next week’s episode will be “Betrayal's Climax” (Season 15, Episode 13). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Liberties w/ Jon Patrick Walker
This week, Liza and Kara recap “Liberties” (Season 10, Episode 21), discuss the tragic life of Steven Stayner, and interview the wonderful Jon Patrick Walker. SOURCES:Los Angeles TimesCBS NewsHi-Desert StarBillings GazetteK2 RadioPeopleWikipedia - Steven StaynerThe New York Times 1The New York Times 2The Spokesman-ReviewCaptive Audience: A Real American Horror StoryWikipedia - Kenneth ParnellWikipedia - Cary Stayner WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Captive Audience: A Real American Horror Story Next week’s episode will be “Anchor" (Season 11, Episode 10). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Manhunt
This week, Kara and Liza cover the SVU episode “Manhunt” (Season 2, Episode 18) and discuss two unbelievably horrific cases - the serial killers Leonard Lake & Charles Ng and the murdering pastor Gary M. Heidnik. SOURCES:A & E6 ABCCNNThe New York Times 1The New York Times 2The New York Times 3The New York Times 4The New York Times 5JustiaOxygen 1Oxygen 2SFGATELos Angeles Times WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Manifesto of a Serial Killer Next week’s episode will be “Liberties” (Season 10, Episode 21). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Nocturne w/ Wilson Jermaine Heredia
This week, Liza and Kara cover the SVU episode “Nocturne” (Season 1, Episode 21), dissect the sex crimes of a Brooklyn middle school music teacher, and interview the iconic Wilson Jermaine Heredia (Rent). SOURCES:The New York Times 1The New York Times 2The New York Times 3The New York Times 4The Awareness Center WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles Next week’s episode will be “Manhunt” (Season 2, Episode 18). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Man Up & Man Down w/ Philip Winchester
Today, Kara and Liza discuss two SVU episodes “Man Up” and “Man Down” (Season 20, Episodes 1 & 2). They also cover multiple school shootings and interview the legendary Philip Winchester, otherwise known as ADA Peter Stone. SOURCES:The New York Times 1The New York Times 2The New York Times 3The United States Attorney’s OfficeWPSDWKMSExpert InstituteKFVSCBS 12NBC NewsNPR WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:How to Address Toxic Masculinity With Boys Next week’s episode will be “Nocturne” (Season 1, Episode 21). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Delinquent w/ Marina Squerciati
This week, Liza and Kara recap “Delinquent” (Season 12, Episode 23), discuss the horrifying murders of Canadian serial killer Cody Legebokoff, and interview the incredible Marina Squerciati (Chicago P.D.). SOURCES:The New York TimesNew York PostCBCNational PostWikipedia - Cody Legebokoff WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Making A Serial Killer Next week’s episodes will be “Man Up” & “Man Down" (Season 20, Episodes 1 & 2). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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And the Empire Strikes Back & Never Turn Your Back on Them w/ Ben Rappaport
This week, Kara and Liza cover two SVU episodes: “And the Empire Strikes Back” and “Never Turn Your Back on Them” (Season 23, Episodes 1 & 2). They also investigate the disgusting deeds of disgraced former Congressman Matt Gaetz and interview the incredibly charming Ben Rappaport (The Good Wife, Grosse Pointe Garden Society). SOURCES:The 19th NewsNPRABC NewsAxiosBBCLegistormPBSWHYY WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Let Her Go Home Next week’s episode will be “Delinquent” (Season 12, Episode 23). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere.
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