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That’s So MLS

That’s So MLS is the Major League Soccer podcast for the long-suffering fan of the world’s most chaotic league. Hosted by journalist Andrew Bates and ex-casual defender Nick Thornton, TSMLS looks at club soccer from a Canadian perspective, with coverage of games and news from around North America.

  1. 211

    MLS After Dark Before Breakfast

    Another few game weeks have passed and we've got the teams who are the up and up, like Toronto FC, who had themselves an early morning (for us on PST) wild comeback against Colorado. We also look across the league at the big news and transfers and talk Inter Miami's so-Nu-it-ain't-even-done-yet stadium. That's So MLS Links Also We Have a Blog Now

  2. 210

    2026 Season Kicks Off

    We can hardly believe it either but the opening games of MLS are in the books and Champions Cup is well under way, so we're back with a rundown of all the teams that have impressed us so far. We look all around MLS with a special focus on the 3 Canadian clubs. That's So MLS Linktree

  3. 209

    MLS Cup 2025 Postmortem

    It's been a hot minute since our beloved Whitecaps fell in the final to Inter Messi FC so we've got the full run down of that match plus some of the big off season moves happening. We talk the teams we think could be in trouble and those we think will be just fine heading into 2026.   All the That's So MLS links mentioned.

  4. 208

    The Whitecaps Are Going to the MLS Cup Final That's the Name of the Show

    We have a lot of playoff and off field MLS news so we do a bit of rapid fire updates and then get straight to the heart of the matter: the two best MLS teams this season are heading to the final. And one of them is the Vancouver Whitecaps  That's So MLS Links

  5. 207

    2025 Playoffs Wild Card and Round 1

    Decision Day has come and gone and we are here catching up on all the action since then. We talk about the wild card games, the first games of round 1, some big news about retirements and the ever-evolving coach carousel, and even manage to throw some praise at Inter Miami. That's So MLS Links  

  6. 206

    East Coast Locked In

    With Decision Day just around the corner, we take a look at the Eastern Conference, where we have certainty about who's in and who's out. In the West, things are decidedly more up for grabs, so we look at who we think may get the business done. We look at some teams making a comeback, some teams sticking to their winning ways, and some teams whose seasons ended a while ago. And we cap it all off with some CPL drama. *Recorded before the Voyageurs Cup Final

  7. 205

    Müller Time

    Nick and Bates tackle a wild August for transfers in MLS, including the arrivals of Heung-Min Son to LAFC and Thomas Müller to the Vancouver Whitecaps, as well as TFC landing Djordje Mihailovic and Colorado bringing Paxton Aaronson back to the league. 

  8. 204

    Total Soccer Summer

    With Club World Cup, Gold Cup, and regular MLS action, we have reached peak soccer summer! We look at some of the major news around MLS, check in on the not-so-perfect-anymore Whitecaps, as well as the still not very good Toronto and Montreal. We also glance at the other competitions, including where things went wrong for both the US and Canada men's teams. https://linktr.ee/thatssomls

  9. 203

    Wading into the Marsch

    After a disappointing CONCACAF Champions Cup final where the Whitecaps collapsed, we look at how their fortunes were briefly worse. We also look around MLS where the top teams are beginning to put some daylight between them and the rest of the pack. We also grudgingly talk FIFA Club World Cup, the *actual* World Cup, and what it all means among travel bans and ICE raids. That's So MLS Linktree

  10. 202

    The Age of Brian White

    For the past few weeks we have been witnessing something we never dreamt possible: The Vancouver Whitecaps are the best team in MLS and just defeated Inter Miami in Concacaf action TWICE. It truly is the golden age and we have a lot to say about it. We also talk about changes at LAFC, some inter-league transfers, and some other teams who are also very good right now. That's So MLS Linktree *Register to Donate Blood *Support for Lapu Lapu Victims and Families

  11. 201

    Flipped Table

    MLS is four weeks old and things couldn't be further away from how we thought they might look. The best team in MLS is... the Vancouver Whitecaps. We're not upset. We do also look around the league at who has blasted out of the gates and who is still warming up. We also look around Concacaf and ahead to some national team action (recorded before Canada and the US crashed out). That's So MLS Linktree

  12. 200

    Episode 200

    After a short off season, we are back! We've got lots to talk about as teams build their rosters, a new team joins MLS, and some familiar faces are back in the league too. We also have a rundown of 2024's Most That's So MLS moments. That's So MLS Linktree 🏳️‍⚧️ Trans Rights Forever! 

  13. 199

    Another star in the Galaxy

    We have an MLS Cup champion, and it's the Los Angeles Galaxy. Nick and Bates talk about their MLS Cup final win over the New York Red Bulls, where the league's buzz sits after its second year on Apple and the announcement that the Vancouver Whitecaps are for sale. Thanks for listening and happy holidays!

  14. 198

    MLS Cup 2024 Semi-Finals and Conference Finals

    With the Conference Finals wrapped, we take a look back at all the results, the surprises, the glory, and the agony. And that's just the coaching updates from the teams out of the playoffs! That's So MLS Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/thatssomls

  15. 197

    Spit Takes and Curtin Calls

    Round One of MLS Cup Playoffs was jarring! We've got all the action for you, including some big calls made by teams already out, a 40 year old superstar, and a Red Bulls team that has us asking if we need to guzzle an energy drink and embrace the dark side.  Thats's So MLS Link Tree for all things That's So MLS!

  16. 196

    Steres-ing Down the Barrel: MLS Playoff Preview 2024

    Decision Day has been decided and one *very* Wild Card game is already in the books so we take a look around at those who made it, those who didn't, and make some playoff predictions for this year's MLS Cup. Visit the That's So MLS Linktree for all your That's So MLS needs.

  17. 195

    Clinched and Unclinched

    We're back and talking through US Open Cup, Campeones Cup, and the thicket of MLS playoffs, who has clinched, who is out, and who maybe still stands a chance. (We recorded before Wednesday's matchday but for once we actually proved slightly prophetic).

  18. 194

    Just Add More Games

    With Leagues Cup finally behind us, we turn our attention back to MLS with talk on the big moves, big upsets, Benteke's dominance, and we of course tip our hats to USWNT star Alex Morgan who played her last professional game. That's So MLS Linktree

  19. 193

    There's No Place Like Drone

    After a very busy July, we have a full breakdown of Canada's breakdown at the Olympic and then (at the 44 min mark) we transition to MLS and League's Cup action. Also, we now have a Link Tree to find all That's So MLS things in one place: https://linktr.ee/thatssomls

  20. 192

    Doing With 9 What Most Need 11 For

    We're taking a look around MLS focusing on the 3 Canadian clubs and their various (mis)fortunes and opportunities, as well as news from Copa America, some MLS coach and player movement, as well as Columbus' unfortunate Champions Cup final, The Union's struggles, and Inter Miami's ability to win no matter what.

  21. 191

    Caps Coupon Catastrophe

    There's been some more gameweeks and we've got all the action for Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver, as well as a look around the league at notable results. We talk Jesse Marsch's new gig, as well as whether people in Vancouver paid $1000+ to see Julian Gressel.

  22. 190

    Own Goals Are Still Goals

    We are back and we have some real zingers to talk about. Colorado won a game without actually scoring a goal themselves (sorry Harris), Seattle had two players sent off, and many teams took on an unofficial crossbar and goalpost challenge. We talk about the recent rule changes and East vs West matchups. 

  23. 189

    Unable to Darken the Door of Gillette

    After the opening few game weeks, we are back with a look around the league at who is already excelling and who is struggling. We make some wildly too early predictions, talk about the new PRO Referee deal, and the legacy of Whitecaps retiree, Russell Teibert.

  24. 188

    Inter Mia... MLS is Back!

    The 2024 MLS season is officially underway! We have all the highlights from the first and only league game so far, talk Messi market saturation, Canada Soccer's never ending lawsuit debacle, incoming and outgoing MLS players, as well as some Champion's Cup results.

  25. 187

    Whitecaps Home and Garden Show

    As MLS season both begins and wraps up, we have all the big name signings and transfers for you, plus new coaches, old friends, and some bizarre Champions League scheduling. Follow us on Instagram

  26. 186

    MLS Cup 2023 Playoffs Final

    As Columbus Crew hoist MLS cup once again, we break down the match that had its controversies but certainly only ever really seemed like there was one team in it. We also already look at some big post season coaching and player moves and talk about what the most 'That's So MLS-y' moments of the year were.

  27. 185

    MLS Cup 2023 Conference Semi’s + Finals

    And just like that, we're down to the final two. LAFC will face a high flying Columbus but before then we break down how everyone did, including some retroactive book throwing the Disciplinary Committee. But even before all of that, we bid (international) farewell to the legend, Christine Sinclair.

  28. 184

    MLS Cup 2023: Bring on the Semi’s!

    And then there were eight! We catch you up on all the teams vying to make their case in the conference semi-finals, as well as the goings on of the teams who finally crashed out. We update the coaching and player carousel, including some familiar faces in Portland and Colorado...

  29. 183

    MLS Cup 2023: Wild Cards and Round 1

    With the wild cards already done and dusted and round 1 of best of 3 also in the bag, we go through the results and who we think has the best shot of making it through. We also look at roster updates across the league for the teams NOT in the playoffs, including the Suarez rumours and my prediction that Chicharito has played his last LA Galaxy game (recorded before they made it official).

  30. 182

    Who’s Not Out But Also Not Yet In?

    With Decisions Day looming, we thought we would take a look at the teams who are right on the edge. Some of these clubs have their futures in their hands, some a little less so. We also talk about two more MLS coaching vacancies and Michael Bradley's retirement. If you have a suggestion for a That's So MLS moment of the year, send it to us on Instagram @ThatsSoMLS

  31. 181

    Don’t Wreck Yourself

    Another busy few weeks of MLS action sees two more coaches exit, a player get fired for starting a fight in an indoor soccer league, and the Whitecaps winning a whack of road games! What's not to love?!

  32. 180

    When The Grass is Greener at TFC

    It's been a busy August, so we have a lot to catch up on: Inter Miami's annoying dominance of Leagues Cup, Spain's historic World Cup win, a deluge of MLS transfers, and a familiar face in John Herdman taking up the mantle of a dismantling the dysfunctional Toronto FC.

  33. 179

    Garber’s Big Friendlies

    It's silly season again as the inaugural League's Cup kicks off between MLS and Liga Mx sides and as Messi polishes off his first (non-league) goals. We also look to the Women's World Cup, which Canada just crashed out of :( (we recorded before the Australia game). 

  34. 178

    Cuz You Both Might Get Sent Off

    We're back with another glut of games in MLS action, so we take a look around the league, talk what it will take to get into the playoffs this year, Cincinnati's continued dominance of the East, the 3 red card game, and we also check in on Women's World Cup and the Gold Cup that wasn't for USMNT and CMNT. This week's episode is brought to you by excited touchline celebrations that see yellow.

  35. 177

    A Slice of Apple for Messi

    We of course talk through that announcement plus run down the Canadian Championship final, the Leagues Cup, and the most recent results of the Canadian MLS clubs.

  36. 176

    A Fines Week for Some Rivalries

    It was a *spicy* one last week and we are here with all the news on the yellow cards, the second yellows, the thirds, some reds, and TWENTY-ONE fines issued. We also have news, including another MLS team and our first two coach firings of the season.

  37. 175

    Benteke Doing Benteke Things

    We've got you covered for all the transfers, news, results (and non-results) from MLS from the last two weeks plus some Champions League and CanPL news.

  38. 174

    Cascadia Clobbering

    This week we talk about that comeback that had Seattle fuming, the ongoing firepower prowess of St Louis, and a look around the league at who's flying and who's sighing. 

  39. 173

    Set Your Watch to Old Rudy

    If you've been watching MLS and thinking to yourself "Gee, there haven't been a lot of red cards of late," boy do we have you covered! We talk about the Houston/LA scenes and another Rudy Camacho red card at BC Place. We also look around the league for where the interesting stories are developing, including a Chicago Fire side that is slowly climbing the table.

  40. 172

    Not Bad, but not Good Either

    It's been a few weeks since we've talked so we're taking a look back at the last few matches for the Canadian MLS clubs. We note that none of them are irredeemable but none of them have really put the full package together either. We also have a look around the league at those making noise and taking space up top in the standings.

  41. 171

    California Snow Bowl

    MLS is officially back! After a weekend of inclement weather, we take a look around the league at the surprising and not-so-surprising results and start to make some (foolish) predictions about the season.

  42. 170

    Geiger Is Watching

    With the 2023 MLS season just around the corner, we take a look at somewhat muted preseason but look at some big transfers and talking points, explore Mark Geiger's promotion, and share the latest chaos out of Canada Soccer.

  43. 169

    The Only 3 Goals That Matter

    We are back folks! After an off season that seemed to fly by, we are here to talk you through some big retirement news, salacious transfers, odd choices, and more!

  44. 168

    You’ve Been Waiting for it... MLS Expansion Draft is here

    Since there are no globally recognized soccer tournaments currently taking place, we decided to take a look at MLS roster updates, including some notable options declined, talk about MLS Expansion draft, and also say some stuff about the Global Trophy for Football.

  45. 167

    The Most That’s So MLS Final Ever

    It is with some sad Doops that we draw a close to another wild year of MLS in a truly wild final clash between LAFC and Philadelphia Union. From the goals, horrific leg bending saves (and red cards), to the PK shootout, come relive the mayhem.

  46. 166

    Decision Day + the Yates Report

    We've got a big show for you this week as we take a look at the decision day results of who is in and who is out of the MLS Cup Playoffs. We share our predictions -which were recorded Friday, Oct 14th ;) About the 1hr 20 min mark, we start talking about the Sally Yates report and its implications across soccer in North America.

  47. 165

    Five years of Chill Soccer

    It's been five years of That's So MLS! We celebrate by catching up on some of the major developments, including Josef Martinez flipping a table, Sebastian Giovinco coming back to Toronto, kind of, and how the MLS playoff picture looks heading into the last two weeks of the regular season.

  48. 164

    The Business End

    There's been so much MLS action, news, transfers, and a Canadian Championship to boot, that we find ourselves playing a bit of catch up and breaking down some previous weeks as well as the fate of every team around the league. We also spend a good chunk of the show discussing the ongoing debacle surrounding the Whitecaps' handling of Bob Birarda (Mins 8-18 in the episode).

  49. 163

    Gressel-Mainia Comes To Vancouver

    After another busy week of games we take a look around the league, including the ongoing transfer madness. We of course talk about what Julian Gressel will bring to the Whitecaps, revisit some teams we had doubts about, and touch on the CSA saga.

  50. 162

    Familiar Faces

    There's been a lot of shuffling around the league and a stack of games so we are here to catch you up on the big name moves. We also talk about the return of Rooney to DC, Toronto's rebuild, and the scary lineup LAFC has assembled.

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That’s So MLS is the Major League Soccer podcast for the long-suffering fan of the world’s most chaotic league. Hosted by journalist Andrew Bates and ex-casual defender Nick Thornton, TSMLS looks at club soccer from a Canadian perspective, with coverage of games and news from around North America.

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