The Aftershow with Mike and Kelly

We remember our buddy Chuck La Tournous, and catch up on our media. Also note this episode was recorded in April before the first round of the NBA Playoffs, go Knicks! Several memories of Chuck: TidBITS, Bryan Chaffin, and Daring Fireball. Shrinking on Apple TV Acapulco on Apple TV Netflix Untold: Jail Blazers Spotify's mix feature The Yacht Rock Megamix Letterkenny & Heated Rivalry Mike's appearance on TWIT Aftershow Hello! Conjuring Code with Ian Varley Mike's choir concert with Here To Sing Gatsby by Florence Welch https://mastodon.social/verso https://saturation.social/miketrose  

Remembering Kelly's Mac Observer colleague John Martellaro. Our condolences to his family, friends and colleagues. If you would like to donate in his memory, consider the Michael J. Fox Foundation for Parkinson's Research. Kelly's looking for the best way to build her band/her personal website, if you've got suggestions. Background Mode Background Mode (one of many) with Kelly Background Mode with Mike John's review of an iOS Space Shuttle Sim… noting he wrote the Apple II version! Marchintosh! A Barenaked Ladies song appropriate to John's memory & Kelly's BNL Playlist (Why mac & cheese is not allowed at BNL live shows anymore) Yellow Tape version of "If I Had $1,000,000" Jason Snell on Jeopardy! The Incomparable — Stand By Me Macstock speakers page The Midnight Tour Brooklyn Paramount Marco Arment on ATP — transcription in Overcast Overcast  Confrontation on Shrinking This episode was recorded in late March, before the untimely passing of Chuck La Tournous. We will be talking more about Chuck (who wrote repeatedly about how Apple technologies improved his health) on a future Aftershow. This was also our first show recorded using Descript/Squadcast, instead of our usual Cast recording app. There are a couple of dropouts in the edit due to Kelly's stream glitching, which we will try to fix for next time! Photo courtesy TMO/Bryan Chaffin.

Kelly's in another band? Join our intrepid podcasters as they wrap their heads around two cover bands, a basketball scandal, AirPods regressions and more. (And a belated Happy Exploding Whale Day.)Gothmas on the Solstice! https://www.holocene.org/event/gothmas-constant-debauchery-depeche-mode-kiss-me-kiss-me-kiss-me-the-cure-precious-machinery-siouxsie-and-the-banshees/holocene/portland/https://www.opb.org/article/2025/10/23/portland-trail-blazers-name-interim-coach-after-billups-arrest/https://www.complyfoam.com/products/memory-foam-ear-tips-for-apple-airpods-pro-3?variant=47125450031291https://www.charjenpro.com/products/airfoamsprov20?variant=47114246193370https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6CLumsir34https://www.oregonlive.com/living/2025/11/its-exploding-whale-day-in-oregon-10-things-to-know-about-the-blubber-blast-55-years-later.html

From the vaults! Recorded back in May but lost in the edit process… hear historical facts about the NBA Playoffs & past Precious Machinery shows! Thrill to Mike's excitement of the Knicks run, not knowing how it would end! Draw sustenance from Kelly's new job and new band!For our listeners who were hoping for a live show from Macstock — unfortunately the stars did not align for this year, but we will deliver a traditional not-the-same-place summer show instead.Check out the tiny bass of Christa Mrgan

Precious Machinery made its New Year's Eve debut! And more from your transcontinental cohosts.Precious MachineryNext showThe Twenty Sided TavernSteve Harper's SNOW in SF

Special Guest Tom Bridge of the Mac Admins Podcast joins the Aftershow crew for a Very Special Episode™!We also extend a heartfelt Aftershow Hello to our pal Chris Fuller. We love you C & we're thinking of you.Go see Kelly on NYE in Precious MachineryConstant DebaucheryThe History of Computing PodcastRemembering Charles Edgehttps://docs.blackberry.com/en/endpoint-management/blackberry-enterprise-mobility-server/3_6https://support.apple.com/guide/deployment/integrate-mac-computers-with-active-directory-depd1a7cad1f/webCisco Routers for the DesperateWho were you, DenverCoder9?https://isimagingdead.com 

Mike and Kelly catch up on their summer musical experiences, including a big announcement from KG on her COVER BAND launching soon in Portland![This episode was recorded on 11/2, before Election Day.]Mike's trip to Collective RetreatsJeff CarlsonKelly's trip to Blockbuster of BendThe ReMarkable relaxation/focus roomsThe story of Robert Smith and Siouxie SiouxMetal Postcard (Precious Machinery)The Midnight: Comet (Mystic Pizza), Comet (About Last Night)Chromeo — JuiceApple M4 No SweatBest Earplugs / Earpeace / EargasmConcert fans

A little bit of politics, a little bit of Muppets, and tuning in for Clipped! (We'll talk about WWDC next time.)Clipped on FX/HuluKelly AuCoin on The Rich Eisen ShowRichard Hunt of The MuppetsNew at MacStoriesSam Buttrey at Inside JeopardyKelly on The Incomparable 1, 2Don't forget to sign up for Macstock! https://macstockconferenceandexpo.com/register/

Remember the eclipse and the earthquake? Good times. This episode, recorded in mid-April, comes off the shelf to remind you of that thing that happened that one time.Graham Chapman of Monty PythonMemorial serviceUS Comedy Arts FestivalEarthquakes & eclipses, oh my! 

Kelly & Mike review the live performances and random illnesses of the last few weeks. Congratulations to the Iconfactory on their successful Kickstarter campaign for Project Tapestry!Ray-Ban Meta glassesApple sued by DOJWalmart selling the MacBook Air M1 The SphereMeow Wolf/Omega MartEarpeace also at AmazonKiss Me Kiss Me Kiss MePlay "Spot Kelly!"MARCHintoshHashtag on MastodonKevin's TED TalkThe Menopause BrainNotebookLMThis Week In Startups episode 

Kelly & Mike are thrilled to welcome Ged Maheux of The Iconfactory to our fun time podcast party. Ged and his colleagues are kickstarting a new app, Project Tapestry, which aims to be "a universal timeline for the Internet." Since we recorded last week, the project has reached and passed its original funding goal — which means it's time to stretch, so limber up those credit cards and hie yourself over to the project page on Kickstarter.Bitcam on the App StorePoolsuiteFunspot NHThe Midnight: ShadowsTrailerPet Shop BoysLoneliness (Official Video) The instantly obsolete Mac IIvx

Welcoming our OG "listener hello" to the guest chair! Chris Fuller joins Mike and Kelly to chat about the Mac's 40th Anniversary and the Vision Pro.Please support Chris' daughter Eleanor in her Girl Scout Cookie fundraising this season!Save Our Flag Means DeathRelay FM Draft 40th Anniversary EditionThe Banana Jr Case ModComputer History MuseumPB1400c Still AliveChimes of Death/Car Crash SoundThe "Black Terminator" for the Mac IIfxMike's Old Home ScreenMacVoices 979 TUAW Peek Behind The Curtain (2009)

Our happy 100th episode! Kelly's San Francisco adventures and a new Tetris world champion.LCD SoundsystemPeachesZombie Village / TikiTetris broken 

Belated birthday greetings to Ms Kelly! Phone therapy for Mike, blended family obligations, making your preparations with older parents, gift suggestions and more!(Note for listeners — Mike did in fact upgrade his Mac mini to Sonoma, and his Drobo 5D continues to work as before.)1Password emergency kit Get Your S*** TogetherNOKboxCake.com on aging parentsOptimum unlimited legacy planLemmy seasonTravesty Ltd, Rock and Roll DoctorKellyokeLocked Out of HeavenFor Reasons Unknownvbsongs.com (the app Mike was thinking of was Healsonic)Weird Al, CNRNumb by U2Judge John Hodgman live showThe PodcastThe best typing gloves40W Wall chargerMacVoices Gift GuidesMoshi Digits glovesDoonesbury & the Newton — https://www.computerhistory.org/revolution/mobile-computing/18/319/1714 and https://www.nytimes.com/1995/12/18/business/doonesbury-and-apple-hatch-a-comic-surprise.html & https://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/1993/08/25Eat Up Marthatwelvesouth.comnomadgoods.comeffinbirds.com

Kelly shares the glory of Raspberry Pi and DACs, and Mike sounds a little weird (not while singing). Also, "Shot on iPhone" doesn't mean Cletus is the next Scorcese.Audio expansion for the PiTim Cook Says 'Good Morning'Giant Squid t-shirtsWhat's Cooking at Apple t-shirtThe TerminatorShot on iPhone — Apple's Scary FastMike & Hannalina on YouTube (Here To Sing)

Some memories with the Aftershow crew, both of whom are a little off their game.Fragforce on Twitch — twitch.tv/fragforceMike's Extra Life pageAaron Prince obitNew YouTube App features with ReneiCloud Legacy ModeVictory not VengeanceNile RodgersSister Sledge The Greatest DancerChic interview with Bernard EdwardsLive at BudokanTiny Desk ConcertJeff CarlsonThe MidnightGloriaLand Locked HeartHeart Worth Breaking

Yes, it's the aftermath of the iPhone 15 announcements, but there's other stuff going on — and we spent a solid hour+ on them, so feel free to break it up into multiple listens!Mike's Oreo birthday presentsthese Pop Tarts are no buenoCompare the Mild Sweet OreosEffin' Birds encounters and historythe glory that is Festa Lounge SFHDMI capture card or Klingon delicacy?Forgetting your Kickstarter pastBe sure to check out the iPad external HDMI display apps including Camo Studio  and Orion (from the folks at Lux who brought you Halide, including Sebastian de With).

Reviewing Kelly's TV recommendations for the fall and anticipating the upcoming September 12 Apple Event.Deadloch on Amazon PrimeHustle Rule podcastUpright on IMDBOur Flag Means Death season 2 — Madeline Sami joins castIf you like the show, follow us on Mastodon and also please tell your friends so they can enjoy it too! (Remember, everyone who lets us know they listen will be greeted personally)

Back at it at the end of the summer — part one of our Return Double Episode! Mike and Kelly catch up on what's been happening, talk Eurovision and Phonemas miracles, and Kelly issues a stern warning about one of the more popular accessory vendors. Plus a must-watch recommendation from Kelly!(By the bye, you can follow Mike or Kelly or the show on Mastodon)Apple event on September 12EurovisionUSB-C switch at DaringFireballGlenn Fleischman at TidBITS and Take Control on USB-CRolling Square universal cableMonoprice universal cable3-in-1 device chargerAnker subsidiary Eufy acknowledges video access issuesDeadloch at IMDB

Part 2 of our return episode! Thanks to Tom Bridge for our killer business cards.Apple Music SingCanned cocktails19 Crimes wineWhite Elephant GiftsMoshi glovesMuji gloves

Did you miss us? Summer break is over and the (winter) solstice is upon us. This is part 1 of a double-length episode, as Kelly and Mike had a lot to catch up on.Lots of us have become Friends of John M.You can follow the show at https://masthead.social/@aftershow and the hosts at the links on our show page!Obi Wan LebowskiThe Witcher Season 3 is comingMike got new InternetApple Music Sing!Brett Goldstein meets the Muppetsseriously look at his faceWe'll be back next week with part 2 of the show for the holidays! Happy Hanukkah (or Mastodonukkah) and Merry Christmas to all. 

It's a bonus! The first episode of Loud, Fast, & Keep Going — follow along at http://loud-fast-keep-going.cast.rocks/ or at weatheralibi.com!

May the Fourth be with you! Kelly & Mike compare Star Wars wardrobe, share their favorite meditation apps and alert listeners to be on the lookout for the new NohoHankCast.Star Wars wardrobeKelly's shirtMike's shirtKelly's necklaceMeditation & mindfulness appsAndrew JohnsonPlum VillageHeadspace10% HappierWell By WolfeSiberian North RailroadTs&zzzCalm Blue GoldHow Picard Can It Be? podcast

Kelly's mad at soap operas, Mike has bionic parts, and more!12 hours of nerdy background noise! ambient sci-fi noise playlistDeckard's apartment from Blade RunnerMike's new favorite music video — Sondheim's Johanna Quartet reprise as 90s synth pop (via Alex Pearlman) (more here)Chrome's new media controlCharlotte Henry's The AdditionKelly's theslice.netUniversal Control coolnessAs a reminder, if you let us know you listen we will say hello to you on the show! 

Looking ahead to Peek Performance, Kelly's got a brand new bag, and more!Apple's Peek Performance event is coming up on Tuesday, and your loyal hosts dive into the House of Crackpot Theories to uncover what's coming. Also: Kelly's new site/show, The Slice, will be up and running at http://www.theslice.tech/ this week!The TMO Daily Observations podcast archivePeek Performance what to expectFriend of the show Kelly AuCoin on The Girl From Plainville (Hulu)Fall Detection on the Apple WatchNew domains without the shame at not-yet-a-sponsor HoverUpload on Prime Video + Mohonk Mountain Housedon't forget your Weather Alibisthe Chris Rawson classic "33 Things You Don't Need if you have an iPhone"

It's the anniversary of Mike & Kelly's inauspicious meeting at Macworld Expo! Fourteen years ago today, Kelly found out she wasn't going to be writing for TUAW (a short-lived rejection), only a couple of weeks after she met Mike at the Extensis booth… hear the story & more in this episode. Mike is damagedThe holiday ornament giftKelly's rejectionGed Maheux on TMO Daily ObservationsDrag Bingo at Hinterlands BarFriend of the show Kelly AuCoin on The Endgame (NBC)Apple Watch haptic alarms have some concernsLeather Link watch bandThe Amazing Race returns with a new look — also who goes on this show without knowing how to drive stick

It's a weird two-parter! Come for the M1 Pro musings, stay for Kelly's birthday present.This episode was recorded in two parts but released as a single, maxi-sized episode for your enjoyment.Farhad Manjoo on the M1 MaxRevive or Restore your Mac (Macworld)Doc Rock on YouTubeGlenningAlfred PreisDeath Star ornament(Our cover art this time is Kelly's birthday present from Mike, in honor of IWMmcuTV)

Is Meatspace Encounter a band, a videogame, or Mike's rendezvous with our last episode's guest? Listen in to find out!21st of SeptemberMoreGet the recordings of MacStock

Kelly and Mike are joined by special guest Rich Siegel of Bare Bones Software! KitchenAid mixers, African Grey parrots, M1 migrations and much more.Bare Bones SoftwareBBEditYojimboRich Siegel on TwitterMixerology

Kelly & Mike are back in the hosting chairs, talking about the Pacific Northwest heatwaves, the upcoming iOS 15/macOS Monterey features, and thinking about karaoke. Listen in!

Kelly goes Max Vax, Mike goes out to dinner, and both discuss the Apple product announcements & quarterly results.Featuring not yet a sponsor Werkstatt!Apple Card FamilyThe Prince solo & behind the scenesDirect YouTube linkLA Times storyM.G. Siegler compares Apple and MicrosoftCharJen AirFoams Pro Active

Kelly and Mike review what's wearing them down, plus Christopher Walken impressions. Tuesday's Apple Event, how we distinguish Shatner from Walken, the new Thursdays with Bob, and more! Episode photo courtesy Alex Pearlman.Kelly's not schoolRusty in the Uncanine ValleyThe Shotenfreude origin storyI Want My MCUtv Meet The Walken FamilyThe Podswap

Mike and Kelly welcome special guest Michael McWatters! Talking HBO Max (now with custom avatars! — Mike wants to be Christopher Moltisanti), TED, the late lamented Tweet Hereafter, Sycamore, Hinterlands, designing for an aging population, and more.Check out our new site weatheralibi.com — for all your weather alibi needs.

Wandavision, should Mike buy a new watch, and what we remember from the late 2000s — plus greetings to listeners and more!Javi recalls a bar story about the LOST finaleMike suggests "Free To Be MCU & Me" as the title for Kelly's other showAlso works: MCU Headroom Shout outs to:Wooji Juice FerriteThe legendary MacsamuraiMike's unloved Night Before Christmas parody from  2006 

This week Mike remembers his stepfather Bob Pearlman, who passed away on February 11. He and Kelly also recall the infamous "formerly Cylon media sensation" nickname, brought back for an upcoming episode of Foodie Flashback.Jabs & JobsThe Death Star Blueprints Are mRNAIn A World…Reminder about Maximoff Overdrive on the Incomparable Network!Compare and contrast Mike's father Alan Rose & Dos Equis pitchman Jonathan Goldsmith

Kelly finally reveals the secret she's been keeping from Mike for more than a decade!You may never be the same after the shocking revelation in this episode! We'll give you the entire thing, but you'll only need… the edge.Mentions, recommendations and more:Kelly's new WandaVision podcast with the Incomparable Teevee: Maximoff OverdriveHulu's In and Of Itself (based on the off-Broadway show) and LetterkennyAmerican UtopiaMuppet Guys TalkingStreet Gang (coming to HBO)Follow the show on Twitter to find out when we're hosting our first Clubhouse chat!

Mike and Kelly reflecting on the historic week that was. Bernie Sits, Mom Likes A Frappucino, the Bitfocus Companion app that works with Elgato Stream Deck, and the Muppet Show (UK spots too?) coming to Disney+.

More M1 chat, Take Control Books. Thunderbolt Hubbing, wrangling Photos and anticipating the digital afterlife. Nothing heavy.Take Control BooksGet Your S**t TogetherMacsamurai! Laurie DuncanMCU Phase 4What If…?[REDACTED] LIVES T-shirtOWC's Thunderbolt Hub (as foreshadowed on MGG 844 with OWC Larry)Mage or Tech? Thunderbolt HubbingE-Ternal from Joanna Stern/WSJBe sure to follow our co-hosts @verso & @miketrose and the show itself @the_aftershow!

The unusual (actually unprecedented) Aftershow where both our intrepid hosts have new computers (Apple Silicon!) at the same time.  Kelly's new laptop adventures, Mike's Mac mini misgivings, and plenty of cool links to explore. (Why is the M1 Mac mini not equipped with a wireless charger in the lid??)Tracy Kidder's Soul of a New MachineRene Ritchie's slew of M1 videosKelly's interview with PC Calc's James Thomson on TMOThe long era of Target Display Mode coming to a close (thanks Jeff Gamet!)Software KVMs Synergy and BarrierTMO Thunderbolt 4 Explained and at LiliputingMacVoices Gift Guides (MTR, KG)tab management — not yet a sponsor WorkonaThe Incomparable:Media PlusMandalorianLife Daythe Caldigit T3

Kelly talks about her big interview, and we review our shopping lists. Also, yeah, there was an Apple event. (Happy Birthday to Kelly!)Brimley/Cocoon LineSmolRobotsEffin' BirdsI'll Be Gone In The DarkSpatial Audio on AirPods ProNot Yet a Sponsor Discbound Notebooks

Kelly and Mike review the past couple of weeks including the iPhone 12 Pro and the Homepod Mini. More sleep stories including Ts and Zzzs. Happy Mandalween!The Mandalorian Season 2MacVoices LiveTexas 24-hour votingAirpods Pro on WootThe GrangeVoteFWDEmpress GinSmiths jokesUpgrading iCloud storage / Apple One

Kelly remembers Cliff Robinson; Mike  recommends Genghis Blues;  we give another shot at Tuvan throat singing. Also, perfect comedy timing.

Rapid response! Basketball Jones becomes Basketball Justice as Mike & Kelly discuss the NBA playoff protest, and catch up on all the things we forgot to talk about earlier.Links:The Skimm on the NBAYahoo NewsAndrew JohnsonCalm Sleep Stories — Stephen Fry's Blue GoldPhil Schiller becomes an Apple FellowTen Percent Happier

wait for itwait for itBASKETBALL JONESKelly, Mike & bonus mid-episode guest Kelly AuCoin talk about the NBA playoffs, the Apple updates of the week and the sad news of a podcast legend hanging up the cans.

Digging into the WWDC announcements… also maybe a TUAW reunion this week! And a flashback to the origins of 'Marklar,' the OS X on Intel project.

It's almost as if there's an actual excuse for the pause between shows, this time. Content warning: apocalypse chat. Mike & Kelly review the last couple of months; Mike's story also on Medium. If you are curious about Fiona Lowenstein's Body Politic support group, you can check it out here & see some of the participant stories/data (TL;dr version). A special Rainbow Connection ipadstohospitals.org Dave Hamilton's $99 video call phone Adam Engst's SSD replacement Sondheim birthday Ladies Who Lunch (as previously heard in this Sept 2019 episode) Saturday Night Seder

We're back in February! Talking about Bootie Mashup, Mac OS Ken's Patreon show, all the Westworld Season 3 trailers, and why Mike can't remember that the Picard behind the scenes show is called The Ready Room! Remember you can follow us on Twitter at The_Aftershow.

Jeopardy, the Pet Shop Boys musical, Demi Adejuyigbe's 21st Of September, Harry Connick Jr. IS Young Will Riker, and Kelly & Mike review a decade plus of silliness. Plus Jonathan Blum, Endel on Twitch, Stephen Fry Sleep Stories and Pluto.TV.

Netflix's dirty jokes, Disney+ & more! Kelly and Mike nearly ruin a keyboard over Netflix's right-on-the-edge brand party; deep diving into the serialized TV experience versus the binge era. Mike also apologizes for his mic this time.

It's The Unofficial Barry Podcast… mostly! Kelly and Mike sing the praises of Anthony Carrigan (the hilarious Noho Hank on HBO's Barry), talk about Luna Display's new Mac to Mac mode, virtualizing Mojave to keep those 32-bit apps running in Catalina, commend the work of Alan Ruck as Sloane's dad's voice, Zach Honig's amazing shot of the aurora, and more. This show was recorded a little while ago, so in our conversation about the Charles M Schulz Museum we did not have an opportunity to send our thoughts for those who are now affected by the Kinkade Fire. We hope that everyone in California who is displaced or in danger will be able to return home safely, soon.