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Shane van Gisbergen wins again at Watkins Glen — and once again the question comes up: are we watching the greatest road course driver NASCAR has ever seen? In Season 5, Episode 16 of The Backstretch Podcast, Heather Williams and crew chief Chris Carrier break down SVG’s latest road course masterclass and what separates him from the rest of the field whenever NASCAR turns right. We also dive into: 🏁 What Matters / What Doesn’t Katherine Legge attempting the Indy 500 / Coca-Cola 600 double — how difficult is it really, and does it matter for NASCAR? The many changes coming to this year’s All-Star Race and what drivers really think about them 🎤 Turn 5 – Five Minutes with Erik Jones Erik joins the show to talk about his season so far, the challenge of adapting week-to-week, and the upcoming All-Star Race changes. 📻 Say What? (Radio Chatter) Carson Hocevar and the No. 21 get together — racing incident or reputation problem? NASCAR keeps the race green after Cody Ware’s hard hit late in the race — are officials letting too much go? 🎙 Backstretch Conversation – Noah Gragson Noah talks about staying confident during tough stretches, handling expectations, and how he became one of NASCAR’s most popular personalities. 🛠 Pit Notes Chris Carrier previews the All-Star Race at Dover for the first time — breaking down the Monster Mile, tire wear, aggression, and why mistakes happen fast there. Fast takes. Real insight. Inside the garage. Subscribe for weekly NASCAR breakdowns, driver interviews, and pit box perspective you won’t hear anywhere else.

Chase Elliott gets the win at Texas — and reaches two victories earlier in the season than ever before. In Season 5, Episode 15 of The Backstretch Podcast, Heather Williams and crew chief Chris Carrier break down what Elliott’s fast start really means — and whether he’s now the biggest threat to Tyler Reddick’s early-season dominance. We also dive into: 🏁 What Matters / What Doesn’t Carson Hocevar at the Met Gala — unexpected, but does it actually matter? Ryan Blaney and Tyler Reddick sign long-term deals, locking up two major names this silly season — no surprise, but how important is it? 🎤 Turn 5 – Five Minutes with Dystany Spurlock Dystany joins the show to talk her journey, opportunity in the sport, and what comes next. 📻 Say What? (Radio Chatter) The No. 60 team penalized after a run-in with the 54 — was it the incident or the radio traffic that made the difference? Kyle Busch avoids penalty in a similar situation — where’s the line? Busch’s weekend continues with tension involving the 77 and the 42 — is fighting multiple battles helping or hurting his momentum? 🛠 Pit Notes Chris Carrier previews Watkins Glen — strategy, braking zones, and how rain in the forecast could change everything. Fast takes. Real insight. Inside the garage. Subscribe for weekly NASCAR breakdowns, driver interviews, and pit box perspective you won’t hear anywhere else. #NASCAR #ChaseElliott #DystanySpurlock #WatkinsGlen #KyleBusch #TylerReddick #CupSeries #BackstretchPodcast

Carson Hocevar gets his first career Cup Series win — and celebrates like it. In Season 5, Episode 14 of The Backstretch Podcast, Heather Williams and crew chief Chris Carrier break down Hocevar’s breakthrough moment, what it means for Spire Motorsports, and why this win could be bigger than just one race. It also felt like a big weekend for the sport — maybe even a shift. 🏁 What Matters / What Doesn’t A changing guard in NASCAR? From Hocevar’s win to rising names across the sport Cleetus McFarland finishes second in ARCA, Corey Day wins in the O’Reilly Auto Parts race (with Jason Kelce on the pit crew) — is this real momentum or just a moment? A major leadership change: Jim France steps down as CEO, and Steve O’Donnell becomes the first non-France family member to take the role — how much does that matter? 🎤 Turn 5 – Five Minutes with Chris Buescher Chris joins the show to talk Talladega, adapting to evolving race strategy, and what it takes to stay competitive as the season shifts. 📻 Say What? (Radio Chatter) New stage strategies reduced fuel saving — but passing still proved difficult More radio issues across teams — and a much bigger problem this week for Ryan Preece at Talladega 🛠 Pit Notes Chris Carrier previews Texas Motor Speedway — speed, risk, and why execution matters more than ever at one of the fastest tracks on the schedule. Fast takes. Real insight. Inside the garage. Subscribe for weekly NASCAR breakdowns, driver interviews, and pit box perspective you won’t hear anywhere else. #NASCAR #CarsonHocevar #ChrisBuescher #Talladega #TexasMotorSpeedway #CupSeries #BackstretchPodcast

Tyler Reddick keeps rolling — five wins in the first nine races, this time at Kansas. In Season 5, Episode 13 of The Backstretch Podcast, Heather Williams and crew chief Chris Carrier break down Reddick’s dominant start and what it means for the rest of the field as the season takes shape. We’re also taking a step back to look at the bigger picture across NASCAR right now — what matters, and what doesn’t. 🏁 What Matters / What Doesn’t Ratings vs attendance — TV numbers may be flat, but crowds look strong. Does that actually matter? Trackhouse Racing continues to struggle, with owner Justin Marks calling it a rebuild — is this part of the plan or a real concern? 🎤 Turn 5 – Five Minutes with Riley Herbst. Riley joins the show to talk Kansas, early-season momentum, and how drivers deal with pressure — whether they’re leading or chasing. 📻 Say What? (Radio Chatter & Off-Track Talk) A funny exchange on the No. 7 radio… but one that points to a real issue Kyle Busch reveals his “hate list” on a podcast — is that mindset helpful, or does it create more problems? 🛠 Pit Notes Chris Carrier breaks down the keys to Talladega Fast takes. Real insight. Inside the garage. Subscribe for weekly NASCAR breakdowns, driver interviews, and pit box perspective you won’t hear anywhere else.

Ty Gibbs gets his first career Cup Series win — and he does it at Bristol Motor Speedway. In Season 5, Episode 12 of The Backstretch Podcast, Heather Williams and crew chief Chris Carrier break down Gibbs’ breakthrough moment and what it means for his future — and the rest of the field. We also dive into: 🏁 What Matters / What Doesn’t The 750 horsepower package has now been tested across multiple track types — does the added power actually matter? Cup drivers sweep all three races at Bristol, with a record number competing in the Truck Series — is that good for the sport? 🎤 Turn 5 – Five Minutes with Cole Custer Cole joins the show to talk Bristol, the current state of competition, and what drivers are seeing as the season evolves. 📻 Say What? (Radio Chatter) Ryan Blaney and the No. 12 team — frustration, adjustments, and what it signals heading into Kansas The No. 8 team continues to be a talking point — at what point does something have to change? 🛠 Pit Notes Chris Carrier previews Kansas Speedway — his hometown track — breaking down speed, tire wear, and what it takes to win on one of the fastest intermediates on the schedule. Fast takes. Real insight. Inside the garage. Subscribe for weekly NASCAR breakdowns, driver interviews, and pit box perspective you won’t hear anywhere else. #NASCAR #TyGibbs #ColeCuster #Bristol #KansasSpeedway #CupSeries #BackstretchPodcast

In Season 5, Episode 11 of The Backstretch Podcast, Heather Williams is joined by crew chief Chris Carrier to break down the biggest storylines from the first third of the season — what’s real, what’s not, and what’s coming next. We also bring in two great guests this week: 🎤 Turn 5 – Five Minutes with Erik Jones Erik joins the show to talk early-season momentum, where his team stands right now, and how drivers approach the grind heading into the next stretch of races. 🎙 Backstretch Conversation with Doug Rice The legendary voice of NASCAR joins the show for a wide-ranging conversation on the state of the sport, the season so far, and what fans should be watching moving forward. 🏁 What Matters / What Doesn’t Several big names — including Ross Chastain, Chase Briscoe, Kyle Busch, and Austin Dillon — are currently outside the playoff picture. Does it matter this early? 750 horsepower makes its debut at Bristol — will the added power actually change the racing? 🛠 Pit Notes Chris Carrier breaks down the keys to success at Bristol — his favorite track — including aggression, tire management, and why there’s no room for mistakes at “The Last Great Colosseum.” From big-picture storylines to inside-the-garage insight, this episode sets the stage for the next phase of the NASCAR season. Subscribe for weekly NASCAR breakdowns, driver interviews, and pit box perspective you won’t hear anywhere else. #NASCAR #ErikJones #DougRice #Bristol #CupSeries #BackstretchPodcast #KyleBusch #RossChastain

Chase Elliott gets it done at Martinsville — and on a track where patience and precision matter most, that win could signal a major shift in the season. In Season 5, Episode 10 of The Backstretch Podcast, Heather Williams and former NASCAR Cup Series crew chief Chris Carrier break down Elliott’s Martinsville victory and what it means for Hendrick Motorsports moving forward. We also dive into: 🏁 What Matters / What Doesn’t Dynasty Spurlock making history — why this moment matters for the future of the sport Cleetus McFarland competing in the O’Reilly Series — what crossover moments like this mean for NASCAR’s audience 🎤 Turn 5 – Five Minutes with Chad Finchum Chad joins the show to talk about the challenges of staying in the cup series 📻 Say What? (Radio Chatter) Has Kyle Busch lost his edge — or is the conversation missing context? Bubba Wallace vs Carson Hocevar — tension building or just hard racing? 🛠 Pit Notes Chris Carrier breaks down what really happens during an off week — shop work, simulator time, adjustments, and why these breaks can quietly shape the rest of the season. Fast takes. Real insight. Inside the garage. Subscribe for weekly NASCAR breakdowns, driver interviews, and pit box perspective you won’t hear anywhere else.

Tyler Reddick gets it done at Darlington — and once again proves he’s one of the most complete drivers in the field. In Season 5, Episode 9 of The Backstretch Podcast, Heather Williams and former NASCAR Cup Series crew chief Chris Carrier break down Reddick’s win at one of the toughest tracks on the schedule, and what it says about his consistency early in the season. We also dive into: 🏁 What Matters / What Doesn’t RFK Racing’s strong weekend — is this momentum real? Are Hendrick Motorsports and Joe Gibbs Racing starting to come back to the pack, or is the field just catching up? 🎤 Turn 5 – Five Minutes with Michael McDowell Michael joins the show to talk Darlington’s unique challenges, tire management, and the mindset shift heading into Martinsville. 📻 Say What? (Radio Chatter) Riley Herbst frustrated with Connor Zilisch — young driver tensions building The Denny Hamlin / Erik Jones incident — racing deal or something more? 🛠 Pit Notes Chris Carrier breaks down the keys to Martinsville — braking zones, track position, patience (or lack of it), and how races can unravel fast at the paperclip. Fast takes. Real insight. Inside the garage. Subscribe for weekly NASCAR breakdowns, driver interviews, and pit box perspective you won’t hear anywhere else.  

Denny Hamlin makes history at Las Vegas — and the NASCAR garage is heating up on and off the track. In Season 5, Episode 8 of The Backstretch Podcast, Heather Williams and former Cup Series crew chief Chris Carrier break down Hamlin’s latest win as he moves into the Top 10 on the all-time wins list — and what that says about his legacy right now. We also dive into: 🏁 What Matters / What Doesn’t The growing tension between Daniel Suárez and Ross Chastain — is this feud just getting started? The Gabehart vs Joe Gibbs Racing trial continues — how much does off-track drama impact a race team? 🎤 Turn 5 – Five Minutes with Brad Keselowski Brad joins the show to talk about his comeback from a broken leg, RFK's start to the season and racing at Darlington 📻 Say What? Pit stops and hand signals — how teams communicate in chaos Speeding on pit road — why drivers are always right on the edge 🛠 Pit Notes Chris Carrier breaks down Darlington Fast takes. Real insight. Inside the garage. Subscribe for weekly NASCAR breakdowns, driver interviews, and pit box perspective you won’t hear anywhere else.

Ryan Blaney takes the win at Phoenix — and on a track where precision and discipline matter most, that victory could mean more than just another early-season trophy. In Season 5, Episode 7 of The Backstretch Podcast, Heather Williams and former NASCAR Cup Series crew chief Chris Carrier break down Blaney’s Phoenix victory, what the 750 horsepower package looked like at the flat mile, and why tire management was the biggest factor in the race. We also dive into: What Matters / What Doesn’t The 750HP package at Phoenix — what actually changed for drivers? Alex Bowman set to miss another race and Justin Allgaier stepping into the No. 48 this week — does it matter who’s driving the car? Turn 5 Five Minutes with Ty Dillon Ty Dillon joins the show to talk Phoenix tire strategy, the early-season championship picture, and what drivers expect heading into Las Vegas. Say What? (Radio Chatter) The tire story at Phoenix Frustration on the No. 8 radio as someone on the team wasn’t happy with Kyle Busch during the race Pit Notes Chris Carrier previews the upcoming race at Las Vegas — wind, tire cycles, long runs, and the strategy drivers need to win there. Fast takes. Real insight. Inside the garage.   Subscribe for weekly NASCAR breakdowns, driver interviews, and pit box perspective you won’t hear anywhere else. #NASCAR #RyanBlaney #TyDillon #PhoenixRaceway #LasVegasMotorSpeedway #CupSeries #BackstretchPodcast

Tyler Reddick has done it again — three straight wins to start the season. In Season 5, Episode 6 of The Backstretch Podcast, Heather Williams and former Cup Series crew chief Chris Carrier break down what Reddick’s dominant start really means for the championship picture — and whether the rest of the garage is already feeling the pressure. We also dive into: What Matters / What Doesn’t The debut of 750 horsepower at COTA — what actually changed? All of the Joe Gibbs Racing cars and two of the four Hendrick Motorsports cars sitting outside the playoff picture — early concern or March overreaction? Turn 5 – Five Minutes with Joey Logano Joey joins the show to talk Reddick’s hot streak, the early playoff picture, the 750HP package, and what Phoenix demands from drivers. Say What? The Alex Bowman driver switch — what really goes into a move like that? Staying out at the end of Stage 2 for points — smart strategy or short-term gamble? Pit Notes Chris Carrier breaks down Phoenix — restarts, tire wear, pit road traps, and why discipline wins at this track. Subscribe for weekly NASCAR breakdowns, driver interviews, and pit box perspective you won’t hear anywhere else.

Tyler Reddick is 2-for-2 to start the season — and the garage is officially on notice. In this episode of The Backstretch Podcast, Heather Williams and former NASCAR Cup Series crew chief Chris Carrier break down what Reddick’s back-to-back wins really mean for the championship picture — and how early dominance can shift the mindset across the field. We also dive into: 🏁 What Matters / What Doesn’t The lawsuit filed by Joe Gibbs Racing against Chris Gabhart and Spire Motorsports — how much does this actually impact teams? The new NASCAR All-Star Race format — smart shakeup or unnecessary change? 🎤 Turn 5 – Five Minutes with Todd Gilliland Todd joins the show to talk early-season momentum, garage reaction to Reddick’s hot start, and what to expect heading into COTA. 📻 Say What? (Radio Chatter) Carson Hocevar’s aggressive moves during the race And Hocevar asking Ross Chastain for a mid-race “shake and bake” — bold strategy or chaos? 🛠 Pit Notes Chris Carrier breaks down Circuit of The Americas — braking zones, tire strategy, passing challenges, and what fans should watch for this weekend. Fast takes. Real talk. Inside perspective. Subscribe for weekly NASCAR breakdowns, driver interviews, and pit box insight you won’t hear anywhere else.

On this episode of The Backstretch Podcast (Season 5, Episode 4) we break down a HUGE week in NASCAR:  Henderson Motorsports runs inside the Top 10 with Corey LaJoie in the Truck race at Daytona… until disaster strikes. Chris explains what happened. What Matters, What Doesn't Tyler Reddick wins the Daytona 500, putting Michael Jordan in Victory Lane as a Cup Series owner — does that matter? Fans voice frustration over fuel saving and drivers riding half throttle — but did it actually impact how the race played out? NASCAR announces 150,000 fans attended the Daytona 500 and more than 450,000 were on property for the week — do numbers like that matter? Then, we go Five Minutes on Turn Five with Daytona 500 champion Michael McDowell — a thoughtful and insightful conversation you don’t want to miss. Back with Chris for Say What? We react to Ryan Blaney’s comments about the Stage 2 caution incident and the late blocks from Justin Allgaier and Riley Herbst — is blocking becoming a Daytona problem? Kyle Busch’s post-race audio sparks debate — what do we think of the No. 8 car bailing at the end? Plus — our featured Backstretch Conversation with NASCAR President Steve O’Donnell, talking about the state of the sport and what’s ahead. And to wrap it up, Chris puts the crew chief hat back on as NASCAR heads to EchoPark Speedway (Atlanta) — what makes it different from Daytona, and what are the biggest challenges teams will face? It’s insight. It’s analysis. It’s real talk from the garage. Hit subscribe and join us every week on The Backstretch.

he Great American Race is here — and Episode 3 of The Backstretch Podcast dives headfirst into everything that makes Daytona unlike anywhere else. In Heather and Chris’ Opening Laps, they break down what truly makes Daytona special — from the history and intensity to the pressure that builds the moment Speedweeks begin. Then in Turn 5, Chase Elliott joins the show to talk about coming heartbreakingly close to winning the Daytona 500, what it’s like racing for that Harley J. Earl Trophy, and his thoughts on NASCAR’s return to the Chase format. In What Matters | What Doesn’t, the debate heats up: Does the current points format really matter to the powerhouse teams? And how much do those tough tracks to start the season actually shape the championship picture? Daytona International Speedway President Frank Kelleher stops by for a special Backstretch Discussion, offering insight into the magnitude of the 500 and what fans can expect this year. To close it out, Chris goes full crew chief mode with his pit box breakdown, detailing his keys to winning at Daytona — strategy, execution, and the moments that can change everything in seconds. History. Strategy. Heartbreak. And the biggest stage in NASCAR. Make sure to like, subscribe, and follow along all season long with The Backstretch Podcast. 🏁🎙️

Season 5 rolls on!  In Episode 2 of The Backstretch Podcast, hosts Heather Williams and Chris Carrier break down all the biggest moments from the Clash. In What Matters | What Doesn’t, the crew debates a question every NASCAR fan is asking: Does it really matter to win the Clash, or is finishing well the real victory? Then it’s Say What… time as we dissect the heated radio exchanges between Bubba Wallace and Daniel Suárez, plus James Small’s very vocal frustration over the fuel caution. We’re also joined by two great guests: Austin Dillon talks racing, momentum, and the season ahead | Nate Bargatze, Daytona 500 Grand Marshal, stops by with laughs and insight you don’t want to miss From on-track chaos to off-track drama (and a little comedy), this episode has it all. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and hit the bell so you never miss an episode of The Backstretch Podcast.

The Backstretch Podcast is back for Season 5! News 5’s Heather Williams and NASCAR Crew Chief Chris Carrier kick off the new season by breaking down the cold weather—and possible snow—heading into The Clash. They also recap the offseason, discuss which drivers they’re watching closely this year, and explain the latest changes to the NASCAR points system. Plus, the show features exclusive conversations with Erik Jones and Austin Cindric as they share their perspectives heading into the season. It’s a packed Season 5 premiere you won’t want to miss.

Heather and Chris breakdown the Cup Championship weekend in Phoenix, including why each driver can win and why they might lose. Ricky Stenhouse, Jr. is our guest. Heather's final thought is on Denny Hamlin's father's illness and the loss of her own father.

There are two races to go in the regular season and one last chance for drivers to make the Championship Four. Heather and Chris talk about that, plus Daniel Suarez's move to Spire Motorsports and this weekend's race at Martinsville. Suarez and Erik Jones are this week's guest.

The playoff drivers have trouble in Las Vegas. Denny Hamlin writes his name in this history books. Spire Motorsports makes a change. Heather and Chris break it all down. Chase Briscoe and Chase Elliott both stop by to talk about their playoff runs.

Heather and Chris talk about the Roval race, strategy vs manipulation, 750 hp coming NASCAR and a preview of Vegas. Christopher Bell and Zane Smith are the guest. Heather's final thought is the Roval.

Heather and Chris talk about the race at Kansas, more trouble for Carson Hocevar and preview the cutoff race at the Charlotte Roval. Austin Dillon is this week's guest, Heather's final thought is about the state of NASCAR.

Fords open round two of the playoffs strong. Heather and Chris talk about Penske's strong start to round two of the playoffs, the teammate scuffle between Denny Hamlin and Ty Gibbs and Preview Kansas. John Hunter Nemechek stops by and Heather's final thought is on the teammate troubles.

Heather and Chris recap the action from Bristol. PRN announcer Mark Garrow stops by to swap stories and talk about his retirement announcement

Heather and Chris talk about Denny Hamlin's win at Gateway, the Playoffs and preview Bristol. Guest Joey Logano talks about Bristol, his love of cars and family life. Heather's final thought is about Bristol.

Chase Briscoe put a beatdown on the field at Darlington. Heather and Chris talk about the race good and bad. Also what happened to Hendrick Motorsports at Darlington and who is excited for St. Louis. Speedway Motor Sports' Steve Swift stops by to talk about how he became the man who makes the Smith family's crazy ideas reality and how fountains almost ended up on the Roval. Heather's final thought is on the continuing lawsuit news

Heather and Chris preview the NASCAR Playoffs, talk about two of NASCAR's worst kept secrets (Kaulig to Dodge and Connor Zilisch to the Trackhouse Cup car) and they preview Darlington. Heather shares a snippet of her conversation with Austin Dillon and her final though is on the NASCAR Playoffs.  

The 2026 NASCAR schedule is released. Heather and Chris break it down and talk about it may or may not impact any changes to the playoffs. Regular season points champ William Byron is the guest. Heather's final thought is on Humpy Wheeler's impact in racing.

Heather starts by talking about the report the All-Star Race may be moving to Dover. Chris joins Heather to talk about SVG's fourth win of the season, Connor Zilisch's scary fall and to preview Richmond. Heather's final thought is on Silly Season

Heather and Chris talk about the drivers who can win the regular season championship, the drivers that need to go if they want to make the playoffs and they preview Watkins Glen. Justin Haley is this week's guest. Heather's final thought is on Henderson Motorsports return to the track this weekend.

Heather and Chris talk about Bubba Wallace's win at the Brickyard, the debate about the playoffs vs full season points and the preview Iowa. Austin Dillion is the guest, talking about the Speedway Classic at BMS. Heather's final thought is on attendance numbers vs track capacity.

Heather and Chris talk about the 23XI/Front Row Lawsuit against NASCAR, the announcement of a race next season in San Diego, the in-season tournament and racing at Indy. Riley Herbst is the guest

Heather gets us up to speed on the breaking news about the 23XI, Front Row lawsuit against NASCAR. Then Chris joins Heather to talk about SVG third win of the season, NASCAR's in-season final four and to preview Dover. Christopher Bell is the guest. Heather's final thought is on Joey Logano's 600th start.

SVG wins again in Chicago, the Clash is returning to Bowman Gray, plus Heather and Chris preview Sonoma. Chris Buescher is the guest. Heather's final thought is on road course racing

Is there such thing as too much chaos? Heather and Chris talk about busted brackets at Atlanta, the start of silly season after the announcement that Daniel Suarez is out at Trackhouse and they preview the Chicago Street Race. Justin Haley is this week's guest. He finished second in Chicago in 2023. Heather's final thought is on street racing's place in NASCAR.

Heather and Chris talk about Chase Briscoe's big win at Pocono, potential upsets in NASCAR's first in season tournament and remember the life of former NASCAR team owner Larry McClure. Erik Jones is the guest

Heather and Chris take a look back at the Mexico City Race and ahead to Pocono. They also talk about their friend Charlie Henderson.

Denny Hamlin wins at Michigan in the midst of a lot going on off the track, now he will skip Mexico City. Dodge is returning to the truck series. Heather shares a recent conversation with Hall of Famer Donnie Allison. Here final thought is on the race in Mexico City.

On this week's edition of the Backstretch Heather talks about the breaking news surrounding the 23XI/Front Row vs NASCAR Lawsuit. Chris then joins her to talk about Ryan Blaney's win at Nashville, the continued run-ins for Carson Hocevar and they have a preview of Michigan. This week's guest is Ty Gibbs and we get to know about Ty the 22 year-old, not just Ty the race car driver.

Ross Chastain adds a crown jewel to his collection. Kyle Larson's double does not go well. The guest this week is Daniel Suarez and Heather's final thought it about Amazon Prime's first cup broadcast.

Heather and Chris talk about the Hall of Fame Class of 2026, did we finally crack the code on short track racing at the All-Star Race and look forward to the Coke 600.Austin Dillon is the guest and Heather's final thought is about the drama in IndyCar right now.

Kyle Larson runs away at Kansas, so is it a car problem or a Kyle problem. The debate continues on what to do with the NASCAR postseason and our guest this week is Christopher Bell.

Joey Logano finds a way to win, NASCAR is taking it's championship on the road and this week's guest is Shane Van Gisbergen

Was Talladega boring and how can we fix super speedway racing? Joey Logano and Chipper Jones now have beef and Chase Briscoe is this week's guest.

A big shocker as Spire Motorsports cuts ties with Rodney Childers. The All-Star race makes some interesting changes and NASCAR heads to Talladega. Zane Smith is the guest.

No off weeks on the Backstretch, though this a little less formal an episode. Heather and Chris talk about the race at Bristol and look forward to Rockingham. Plus a quick chat with Austin Dillon.

There were some technical issues on the Backstretch, so this podcast was from before the Bristol race, but we thought you might have a good time listening to how wrong we were about what might happen on Sunday, and the chat with John Hunter Nemechek is a good one

Xfinity drivers put on track behavior debate back in the spotlight. Heather and Chris talk about that as well and Denny Hamlin ending his Martinsville winless streak and preview Darlington. Ricky Stenhouse, Jr. is the guest. Heather's final thought is on Darlington throwback weekend.

Kyle Larson came really close to sweeping the weekend at Homestead. Can he do it in a few weeks at Bristol? Heather and Chris talk about that plus where the championship race should be, and they preview the race this weekend at Martinsville. Erik Jones is the guest. Heather's final though is on the Championship Race location.

Josh Berry gets his first Cup Series win, he is the guest this week on the podcast. Heather and Chris talk about Josh's win plus the smart call in the pits by the 20 team and they preview the race at Homestead. Heather's final thought is about the continuing debate about who should be cleared to drive in Cup Series Races.

Christopher Bell is red hot. Heather and Chris talk about C-Bell's third straight win, who should be given the chance to run a cup car and they preview this weekend's race at Las Vegas. Alex Bowman is this week's guest and Heather's final thought is on the points system.