The Bigger Picture Podcast

“It was really exciting to me that there were these non-art world concepts that I could apply inside the art world with the right relationship frame, and I could see how that could drive impacts”In this month’s podcast, First Thursday founder Callum Hale-Thomson joins us to explore entrepreneurial approaches to long-standing challenges in the art sector. We discuss increasing pressures on galleries and dealers and explore why simply telling galleries to “behave differently” is unlikely to prove the solution for lasting change.You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.comYou can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

This month we are joined by Chris Bentley, Head of Fine Art & Specie at AXA XL’s UK & Lloyds business, to discuss his journey into the art world. From formative experiences as a porter at Bonhams, to developing art insurance products across the globe, and the importance of gathering a diverse set of professional experiences from the outset, this episode makes for essential listening for anyone curious about the behind-the-scenes infrastructures of the art world.About Our GuestChris Bentley is Head of Fine Art & Specie at AXA XL’s UK & Lloyds business, a role he has held since December 2020. He was previously Director of Underwriting for Northern Europe, Middle East & Asia-Pacific at AXA ART. Prior to this he worked at Hiscox where he was a member of their Fine Art team. He has held positions at Bonhams Auctioneers and Aon Artscope, a fine art insurance broker specialising in art and antique dealers. He is an Associate of the Chartered Insurance Institute, an elected member of the Lloyds Market Association and International Underwriting Association Joint Specie Committee since 2015 (as Chairman between September 2019 and March 2023), and a member of Professional Advisors to the International Art Market.You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

“With research, there are days we are at an absolute dead end, and sometimes it's weeks when you've made no progress. But then, one day, you make progress, and you answer a question, and, in that moment, it pays off.”In this month’s episode we are joined by Angelina Giovani, co-founder of the Flynn and Giovani provenance research agency and founder of the online training platform, Art Market Academy.From the challenges and progress in provenance research, to the importance of thorough documentation as part of a broader due diligence process, as well as Giovani’s new platform Source, which opens research access on a global scale, this episode is key listening for anyone interested in research-based practise. About the GuestAngelina Giovani is an art provenance researcher and co-founder of the Flynn & Giovani Art Provenance Research Agency, which was founded in 2017 and specialises in due diligence and provenance investigations.She works closely with key members of the UK art trade, with research supporting works now held in the collections of institutions including the National Gallery of Art, Washington, the Art Institute of Chicago, the Museum of Fine Arts, Boston, and the Carnegie Museum of Art.In 2023, she founded the Art Market Academy, an educational platform dedicated to provenance research and the only resource of its kind and is now launching Source, a platform connecting researchers with on-the-ground access to libraries and archives, designed to remove barriers to knowledge while creating opportunities for students.You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

“We are a kind of matchmaking service between artists and projects. For every artist, there is a client.”In this month’s episode of The Bigger Picture, we speak to David Knowles, Founder and Creative Director of Artelier.From the importance of working with local artists and craftspeople in different regions, to incorporating sustainable materials and practices and staying ahead of trends, this episode makes for essential listening for anyone keen to better understand the landscape for artists today.You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

In this month’s episode of The Bigger Picture, we speak to Dyala Nusseibeh, Director of Abu Dhabi Art, on the developing nature and role of international art fairs. From the early influences of her family’s art collection, to studying anthropology and her early career at the Saatchi Gallery, our conversation explores the balance between commercial and public objectives, the overriding importance of engaging communities and grassroots organisations, as well as the changing tastes and priorities of collectors.You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts.To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly, please visit arcarta.com.You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

“There's still a lot of inequality in terms of representation and there is a lack of understanding-the artists career trajectory is still following a path that is not suitable for most artists…What I'm trying to with the gallery, [is] challenge is that. Life is not linear.”In this month’s episode of The Bigger Picture, we speak with Sarah Le Quang Sang, Founder and Director of the London-based SLQS Gallery. ‍From the influence of her multicultural upbringing, her experiences navigating the market as a mother (including her co-directorship of the Pro-Create Project), to her insight into the shifting shape of gallery models and art history trajectories, this episode makes for essential listening for anyone interested in navigating today’s sector.You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

“Careers are incredibly long, and I think you don't always appreciate that when you're starting out… your reputation, your relationships, all of these things endure for far longer than any specific decision you might be making day-to-day."In this month’s episode of The Bigger Picture, we speak with Mazdak Sanii, co-founder of Avant Arte. From early lessons in financial modelling at Rothschild, to working with high profile artists on editions and meeting ever-shifting needs of today’s collectors, Sanii shares the lessons learned at the creation of a business in the intersection of art and technology.Essential listening for anyone curious about the future of art, the rise of curated marketplaces, and what it takes to turn the building of communities into a thriving business.You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.comYou can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

“Clients are still collecting art, because it is a passion, right? They love it. It's for all the reasons that everyone has always collected. But there have been increasing expectations around the financial performance of art and understanding of it as an asset class.”In this month’s episode of The Bigger Picture, we’re joined by Drew Watson, Managing Director, Head of Art Services at Bank of America, who explains the latest mood in art investment, generational shifts and the overriding importance of a passion for the work.From understanding the impact of macroeconomic factors on market trends, to exploring the growing prioritisation of emotional motivations in collectors and regulatory pressures mounting on the trade, this interview offers a comprehensive overview to anyone keen to better understand current market forces and careers within it.You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.comYou can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

In this month’s episode of The Bigger Picture, we’re joined by Oliver Howell, CEO of Gander & White Shipping. Oliver shares insights into the evolving demands of sustainable business practices and the challenges of operating globally during periods of economic uncertainty. Essential listening for anyone interested in the art market or keen to understand more how shifting trade dynamics are shaping daily operations across the sector.You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

“It was a challenge, running a prestige print publication on a monthly basis, with various supplements, events, and then also throwing into that, the digital publication and all that entails, whilst having to keep up with changes in the digital world, the dissemination channels, socials and so on that come with it.”‍In this month’s podcast, special guest Tom Marks, former editor of Apollo magazine who now co-directs Marks Calil, a strategic consultancy working with businesses and organisations in the art world, joins us to discuss publishing, the relationship between commercial and not-for- profit entities, as well as the significance of education within society and his own career.‍You can now watch The Bigger Picture on Youtube, or listen on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

In this month’s podcast, special guest Bethany Woolfall,Vice President of Customers at Arcarta, joins us todiscuss the conflicting and shifting demands of themarket, the importance of trust and the role of networksin shaping her own career path- from gallery sales, toshaping technological solutions unique to the trade.You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

“I wanted to create an event that African artists could be extremely proud of, to ensure that they knew I wasn’t trying to categorise them into anything, but rather give them a voice.’  In this week’s podcast, special guest Touria El-Glaoui, Founding Director of 1-54 Contemporary African Art Fair, joins us to discuss the event’s expansion, her long-term fascination with the continent and how her father’s career as an artist impacted her own fascination with the sector.Learn more about the resilience and ambition required to develop a fair which now holds a prominent position in the market’s calendar, and the importance of recognising skills which transfer across sectors.You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

“We always try to focus on ‘money can't buy’ experiences, exclusive access and creating bespoke experiences where people can gain meaning out of it.”In this week’s podcast, special guests, Amelie Von Wedel [Founder of Wedel Art Advisory] and Meher Waney [Director of Membership and Business Development at The Arts Club,] join us to discuss their collaboration and creation of exclusive experience in London Dover Street’s Arts Club.Learn more about the fascinating collaboration between art advisory and club development, whilst exploring the interrelationships between the art, floristry, cuisine and business all housed in the capital’s established club.You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

Special guest, Helen Allen, is the newly appointed Development Director at London’s The Treasure House Art Fair [27th June to 2 July] and Executive of Director of The Winter Show, New York.“I got to spend my lunch hours on the days that the [Metropolitan] museum was closed, exploring- one day it might be the medieval section, the next it may be China and the following, the Near East. It was a wonderful chance to explore.”In this week’s podcast we learn more of Allen’s ambitions to bring together collectors from across continents and of her extensive breadth of experience spanning auction houses, galleries and fairs.You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

Special guest, Tanya Barson, is Curatorial Senior Director at Hauser & Wirth, joins us to discuss her extensive career working across museum and private collections and projects.In this week’s podcast we learn more about the challenges and opportunities to be found in curating extensive, constantly-evolving collections, the shifting role of curators and more of Barson’s direct experience in supporting acquisitions of Latin American art.You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

Special guest Paul Hewitt, Director General of The Society of London Art Dealers, joins us, as the organisation publishes a report outlining some of the opportunities and challenges facing the UK art market today.In this week’s podcast we explore the market landscape following a global pandemic and a post-Brexit economy, whilst considering the importance of skills and self-awareness in the development of careers in the sector. You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

Special guest Isabelle von Ribbentrop, Executive Director of the Prix Pictet photography Award, joins us as work from this year’s shortlist goes on display at the V&A.You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

In this week’s podcast, we learn more about Daniel’s journey through the art world, from an aspiring photographer to operations at major auction houses and now Registrar at The Sladmore Gallery. His experience and knowledge gives us insights on the art world’s internal processes and the challenges they have faced in the past 5 years. You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit Arcarta.com You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

Special guest, Jon Sharples of Howard Kennedy, joins us to discuss the prominent legal challenges facing artists today and the shifting landscape of art law since he entered the field. Key listening for any practising artist, lawyer or anyone with an interest in this rapidly shifting landscape.You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or reach out to us directly, please visit arcarta.comYou can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

Special guest Liza Essers, of Goodman Gallery, joins us to discuss her passion for working with artists from across the globe, united by a desire to drive social change. From shifts in the art market, the importance and role of educating collectors, to the future of digital models instigated during the pandemic, Liza’s insight is invaluable listening to anyone working in the art world today. You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

Special guest Vicki Wonfor, Joint Managing Director at Rosebery’s London, joins us to discuss her journey through the art market, the importance of relationships to develop in the art world and staying ahead of change in the market.You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

“The people who were making money at that time were the bankers, the hedge funders, the private equity people- and I know the difference between those three things. It does help to be able to speak the language and to not to be frightened by it.”From ten years at leading Financial Public relations firm, Finsbury, to today’s role at the forefront of art market journalism at The Financial Times (with a couple of books along the way!) Melanie Gerlis’ journey through the sector has not be typical.Nevertheless, as we explored her multifaceted career, approach to working and tips for success, her learning is clearly useful to anyone interested in working within today’s art world. A fascinating overview of the market’s development across booms, crashes and technological advances.You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

While Madeline Perridge's love for antiquity would start with bedtime stories, these ancient worlds, myths and legends would lead her down a road to the art world, her eventual destination. Leaving her academic studies for the world of work, Maddy's breaking into the art world was to prove difficult with her lucky break coming almost a year and a half later. Once head of the antiquities department at Bonham's, today the director of Kallos Gallery, Maddy shares how dog eared determination and gut instinct have played a fundetmental role.Presented by Arcarta, the anti-fraud and customer due diligence network for the art world, the Bigger Picture presents a special series of episodes in partnership with London Art Week. A showcase of the best that the art market has to offer, we take an inside look at the galleries participating and the stories behind the people that shape them. You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

After numerous failed applications to work in the picture department at Christies, the newly married Johny Van Haeften and his wife Sarah open their gallery on Old Bond Street with no contacts, no knowledge, funding or experience..While today, the name Van Haeften and Dutch Old Masters are inseparable. Johny shares the 52 year story that unfolded which for him started on a much, much smaller scale with a life long love for art in miniature…Presented by Arcarta, the anti-fraud and customer due diligence network for the art world, the Bigger Picture presents a special series of episodes in partnership with London Art Week. A showcase of the best that the art market has to offer, we take an inside look at the galleries participating and the stories behind the people that shape them.You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

In a career spanning half a decade, you’d be forgiven in assuming what one could achieve in half a century would be significant given the time invested. However for Michael Goedhuis, getting started in the business of art at 30, within 12 years Michael would become the Director of the oldest commercial gallery in the world, establish records brokering some of the most significant deals before going on to create, create new markets and discover culturally and historically important collections and become the subject of a film. Michael’s career is a fascinating 50 year art-world adventure.You can follow and subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us, please visit arcarta.com.You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

For almost half a century, Arnoldi-Livie has been dealing in European paintings, drawings and sculpture having placed numerous important works in major international museums and exhibits at TEFAF, Salon du Dessin and participates in London Art Week. Run by husband and wife team Bruce and Angelika, neither had visions or grand ideas of dealing in art were it not for their paths crossing as Art History students on a rainy November day in Munich in 1968.‍‍You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

With an illustrious history, founded in 1923 - and now in its 3rd generation - Didier Aaron exhibits at TEFAF, Fine Arts Paris, Frieze and the Salon du Dessin and participates in London Art Week. Focusing on French art from the 16th to 19th centuries, the gallery has placed works in institutions such as the National Gallery, the MET and numerous principal museums of France. 20 years ago, the gallery would go on to negotiate the sale of one of the most important old master works by Titian to the Getty Museum for more than 50 million dollars. With galleries in New York, London and Paris, today the business is overseen by Didier’s son and president Hervé who has been continuing the family legacy.You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

As a child growing up in Amsterdam, Mireille Mosler preferred to wait in the car on family outings to museums and galleries. When it came to choosing a career however, she knew she wanted to be an art dealer in America but not before figuring out how to get there. Stepping off a plane in 1992 for an internship with Christie’s, it was her first sale of a painting that would become the lifeline enabling her to stay and pursue her dream of dealing art in New York City.Presented by Arcarta, the anti-fraud and customer due diligence network for the art world, the Bigger Picture presents a special series of episodes in partnership with London Art Week. A showcase of the best that the art market has to offer, we take an inside look at the galleries participating and the stories behind the people that shape them.You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

Picture Specialist at a major auction house, managing director of one of London’s most significant Old Master dealerships, numerous important previously undiscovered works by John Constable, Joseph Wright and a groundbreaking exhibition of British landscapes by Gainsborough - are a selection of some of the highlights of Lowell Libson’s art dealing career spanning more than 40 years. Today, a trustee of Gainsborough House and Director of Libson & Yarker - with his business partner Jonny - Lowell recounts his formative years while offering a highly personal and unique perspective into his passion for British art. Presented by Arcarta, The Bigger Picture presents a special series of podcasts in partnership with London Art Week. A showcase of the best that the art market has to offer, we take an inside look at the galleries participating and the stories behind the people that shape them.You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

Starting out - without the money to buy works by great artists - if Philip Mould couldn’t afford work by Gainsborough or Van Dyck he would find one. Some 30 years later, this single-minded focus and unique approach - born out of necessity and fuelled by passion - has seen Philip become synonymous with ‘sleepers’: the discovery of lost or unknown works of art. Today from the gallery in Pall Mall - and through the BBC series Fake or Fortune - the art dealing broadcaster and his team - delight in sharing the ‘big stories’ about important works that captivates an art loving public.You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

In 1878, Mortimer Newhouse opened his gallery in St Louis, Setting in motion a series of events that would see the generations that follow dealing in art.Despite this legacy and family ties, running the gallery would never be an option for Jill Newhouse as the fate of the Newhouse legacy looked uncertain in the 70’s, in-spite of tradition - and expectation - Jill would go on to found her eponymous gallery and establish the Newhouse name as one of the leading dealers of master drawings. Presented by arcarta, The Bigger Picture presents a special series of podcasts in partnership with London Art Week. A showcase of the best the art market has to offer, we take an inside look at the galleries participating and the stories behind the people that shape them.You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

Trained as a ballet dancer and today an Art dealer and artists agent, it was through her great uncle that Virginia would sell her first painting at 16 and set in motion a series of events that would see her future in the art world. Starting out running a gallery from her flat without a plan, Virginia would go on to reinvent the gallery experience. Fusing theatrics, and unique immersive experiences, it would be as Riflemaker Gallery that she would go on to create exhibitions like no other while catching the attention of a particularly significant collector.You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

Since 1964, Stern Pissarro Gallery has been recognised Internationally as one of the foremost experts in Impressionist, Modern and Contemporary art and takes its name from the husband and wife team who run the gallery: David Stern and Lélia Pissarro. David: the son of an Art Dealer, Lélia - uniquely - the 4th generation of what is believed to be the largest dynasty of painters in Western Art and is the great granddaughter of the founder of the French Impressionist movement: Camille Pissarro.You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

In August this year, Daniel Crouch Rare Books celebrated its 10th anniversary. Starting out as a Saturday boy at an antique map and print shop in Oxford at 16, Daniel and his business partner Nick would cross paths at Bonhams and go on to become the only dealers in the world specialising in atlases. While Daniel’s photographic memory has helped him find the things others failed to see, it’s evident that maps viewed as works of art are indeed difficult to miss.You can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

In this episode, we hear how Artist and Head of Research and Design at Alon Zakaim Fine Art in Mayfair - Maggie Williams is busy tearing pages from - and re-writing the Iliad - for her most recent work and shares that - for her - appeal in art has a lot to do with seeing the beauty in ‘ugly’.To learn more about this episode, please visit The Bigger PictureYou can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com

Founded by Robert Bowman in 1993, today Bowman Sculpture is synonymous with one name in particular: Rodin. Raised on a farm, starting out as a receptionist and rising through the ranks to become the Director of European Works of Art at Sotheby’s, to then leave at the height of his career to open his own gallery, Robert’s story is inspiring and evidence that with enough persistence, patience and passion an art world outsider can become a significant voice.To learn more about this episode, visit The Bigger PictureYou can subscribe to The Bigger Picture wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about this episode or to reach out to us directly please visit arcarta.com