The Container: A Circling and Authentic Relating Podcast

Stephen Jenkinson is a culture activist and author who brings together ceremony, music, and story. His much-loved book Die Wise taught us how to face that hardest of topics: death. In 2024, he was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease. Now, in his new book Trembling Still, he captures in intimate detail his path with the illness.You can find his work at Orphan Wisdom (https://orphanwisdom.com/).Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

C. Derick Varn is a poet, philosopher, and podcaster (among so much else). He comes on The Container to talk about how we make reality. Spoiler alert: it's a mixture of spirit, mind, history, politics, and so on. In particular, he helps us understand why the political left broke off from spirituality. We even talk a little bit about how to enchant the incredible theoretical work of Marx and those he later influenced.Varn gives us so much rich context to chew on. And we're even more excited because Varn is a long-time podcasting hero of Jonathan's, so that makes it all the more fun and rewarding.Find Varn's incredible work at:His YouTube channel VarnVlog (https://www.youtube.com/@VarnVlog)His Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/cw/varnvlog)Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

The Relating Arts teach us how to engage with ourselves, each other, and the world in a more conscious way. So, what would happen if we grew these practices at scale?Peter Munthe-Kaas comes on The Container to talk about just that. His Relating Arts project gathers these kinds of practices into a single, easy to use space. It's beautiful, too![There is an audio issue on this episode with Jonathan's mic. We had a discussion and everything is better now, thank you.]Get your links!The Relating Arts website: https://relatingarts.com/Peter's personal website: https://www.petermunthekaas.com/The Relating Arts YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCd-hWIMdkXdC__g3w3c0ltQSupport Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

The rebirth of humanity is upon us. Everywhere you look, people are participating in something big. The renewable energy revolution. The rise of urban agriculture. The return of God and enchantment.All over the place, we find signs that humanity is about to undergo a cultural, spiritual, and economic revival and renaissance.But here's the thing: we have to be the ones to do it.We can't wait for others. It has to be us.A bit of an odd episode, but one that really comes from the heart.Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

Lubaina Choudhury is a powerful energy healer with a hands-on, in-depth knowledge of how to care for and operate this magnificent human body.Her background is in Eastern traditions like yoga. But her mentor delivered high impact teachings from the Kabbalah, a fundamental force in Western Occultism. Now, she blends East and West (along with her own inherent gifts and honed skills) into a healing modality that far surpasses what we are told is possible.In this episode, she talks to us about her path and how her power to heal informs her view of the universe and daily life. We come away with a far richer understanding of how to inhabit this strange realm we call reality.If you’d like to work with her (she does do long-distance healing over Zoom!) you can find her: At her website www.lifeishealing.netOn her podcast Life is Healing with LubainaSupport Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

Will Jefferson is a writer, coach, and facilitator who brings poetry into vivid connection and conversation with everyday life.Interested in his Poetry of the Everyday course? Use promo code ‘container’ for 20% off!It starts Tuesday, April 28. But spots will go fast, so be sure to sign up today.Go to:  https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/the-poetry-of-the-everyday-6-week-online-course-registration-1986201370767For more of Will’s work, check out: https://willjefferson.comSome of the poems we talked about: “Composed upon Westminster Bridge” by William Wordsworth“Humpbacks” by Mary OliverSupport Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

The Container is launching a new adventure: Mystical Creatures.On this journey, Jonathan and Marei are going to deep dive into mystical practice, that collection of tools that bring us into radical union with the sacred. Call it God, why don’t you?In this conversation, Marei talks about her life, how she began to notice something strange was going on, and how you can begin to reclaim your birthright as a mystical creature.Near the end, Marei even teaches us some pointers we can use to drop into a more unitive state of presence.To get coaching from Marei and find out more about events she is leading, check out here website here: https://www.intopresence.se/You can also contact her directly at: [email protected] Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

Daniel Schmidt, the documentarian behind the fantastic Samadhi film series, shares the best practices he's found for spiritual awakening. This includes the ones used in the Samadhi Center's 7-Day I AM Retreat.We touch on meditation, psychedelics, and even relating practices (like Charles Berner's two-person method of self-inquiry). But most of all, we investigate how any spiritual tool for awakening might be used on the Pathless Path.Schmidt's wide-ranging interests and masterful way of communicating esoteric spiritual wisdom makes for a deeply rewarding conversation. And it's wonderful getting to hear the voice behind so many great films responding to questions!You can find his work at:Awaken the World (https://awakentheworld.com/)Awaken the World YouTube Channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmzsYSXn3zdCsLS063oCt8w)7-Day IAM Retreat (https://awakentheworld.com/onlineretreats/)Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

Stemless is a radical new entry to the world of the relational arts, mindfulness, and social meditation. It takes us out into uncharted waters, where we use skillful projection to wake us up and make vital contact with how we create our reality.We brought the entire founding team on to talk about what Stemless is, how it came from and builds off of Circling, and what you can expect when you jam with this new practice.(BTW, welcome back James to the pod. We recently had him one for Episode 79 with Month of Potential.)Check them out here:Their website (https://stemless.org/)Their MUST READ Substack (https://stemless.substack.com/)Their WhatsApp for updates on online and in-person events (https://chat.whatsapp.com/CMrtH2sjSNB2DPH1Q4crFY?mode=ac_t)Here is a blurb from the Stemless team to learn more:‘Stemless’ is a relational presence practice where we connect via direct transmission of our rich inner experience without explanation. We aim to glimpse and own not just our arising feelings but our overall perceptions. As a group or in pairs, we share what’s happening between us in the here and now, free of violence (meaning: deeply owned). To start off, we practice using overt sentence stems, being careful to use language that doesn’t crowd anyone else’s experience (eg. “This is just my story, but I think you might be angry?”). Then comes ‘stemless’, where we open toward the more mysterious space where all projections can be recognized as inherently toothless. Without overt management, even an expression like “You’re the devil!” can be, paradoxically, conflict-free. It becomes just another beautiful opportunity to meet in connection. Past participants have said the practice is psychedelic, pointless, deeply connecting and alive, endlessly frustrating, what do I do with all this freedom!? and “the most important relating practice that I know of, in the world.”We find intimacy in truth by foregrounding the often-unsayable stories we’re constantly inventing about ourselves and each other. Our notion of connection is not in achieving a shared understanding of who or what we are. Rather, we attempt to lucid dream in our waking lives: to catch ourselves in the act of inventing the characters we see (and imagine ourselves to be). Feelings of connection might come, but they are not the goal, and this might feel awkward or weird at times. Participants will likely feel dropped or unacknowledged, at times or often. You will hopefully also experience a kaleidoscopic tilting of your world’s dream logic; laughter; insight; and a taste of our passion for this practice. A meditative practice of surrendering to reality expressing itself through each of us in every moment.Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

The brilliant Andrew Venezia comes on the podcast to talk about the many layers of Circling. He takes us from the basics of an interbeing practice to deep insights into the nature of reality itself. It's a mind-bending episode, but it's always grounded in Andrew's warmth and openness to the questions themselves.You can work with Andrew by visiting his website here: https://www.andrewlouisvenezia.life/You can also go right ahead and book a conversation with him here: https://www.andrewlouisvenezia.life/schedule-a-psychoactive-conversationAlso, you'll notice we have a new theme song! That comes from The Purples!Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

Can circling bring us into deep mystical and magical practice? Certainly, yes. And Ben Hodgson comes into The Container to tell us just exactly how that might work. He also gives us a delightful account of his magical journey. Oh, did I mention we talk about the Kabbalah, ritual magic, and insanity?It’s that kind of discussion.You can work with Ben at Transformational Connection.Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

The Month of Potential (MoP) experiments with living in radical connection. Using the practice of circling as the foundation, they recently spent a month living and working together fully engaged in relational practice. They share their experiences, challenges, insights, and plans for the future. They even give tips and insights (and invites) to people who want to go on similar journeys.You can find documentation of their work here: https://publish.obsidian.md/potential/If you would like to learn more about their work as individuals, reach out to them using the links below:Emma van den Boogert Emma van den Boogert works with individuals and groups to cultivate collective fields of connection, where people feel deeply seen, attune to the deeper intelligence moving them, and step into their highest potential. She's passionate about integrating the personal, interpersonal, and systemic, and holding the space where breakdown and breakthrough unfold. Drawing on Political Science, Nonviolent Communication, and practices like Parts Work and Transformational Connection, she facilitates The Singing Field, coaches life and career professionally, and contributes to networks and communities of conscious global changemakers - including Living Cities Earth, Love Organized and the Syntropy Network - supporting those willing to truly listen and act from emerging possibility.Website:  https://www.emmavandenboogert.com/ Noor Al-HashemiI am drawn to the mysterious caves and deep-sea lagoons buried deep in the fabric of our beings. Devoted to cultivating the precision and humility needed to listen for the very subtle parts of our experience, to give life to them and allow them to move us. Based in London, I lead Transformational Connection and work 1-1 online with those who want to dive into the depths together.You can read more and book in a session at circlingwithnoor.com or send me an email at [email protected] BrownRelational coach, lay therapist, group facilitator and leader.Supporting you to connect, accept and stand, with love and honesty.Relational coaching at - https://jameswonders.uk/Group facilitator and non-duality practice at - https://stemless.org/Luz QuiñoneroLuz works with people who feel disconnected - from themselves, their relationships, or their sense of purpose - to develop relational awareness and create the meaningful, conscious connections they desire.https://luzquinonero.com/Nick HayesNick helps relational and presence-based practitioners move beyond insight and self discovery, into sovereign creator-ship of their whole world.You can learn more about him here: https://nickhayes.me/Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

Angelo Dilullo is an author, podcast host, and teacher who brings a down-to-earth reality to the topic of awakening.His podcast Simply Always Awake is a treasure trove of insights into awakening with a refreshing lack of pretense or unnecessary spiritual window dressing. His approach is practical and lived in, and that’s probably why tens of thousands of people have benefitted so much from his teachings.Angelo’s book Awake is a great reminder that awakening is a natural process just about anybody can experience.Today, we have him on The Container to talk about awakening and bringing this kind of consciousness into we-space practices like circling.Check out his website here!Watch his YouTube channel here!Buy his book here!Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

Marc “Marco” Beneteau is a major force in the Authentic Relating and Circling world. His newsletter has become a must-read feature of the field, and his introduction to Circling has been one of the most important resources for newcomers.And now… Marco’s working on a third version of his intro book, bringing in some of the biggest names in Authentic Relating to help. He comes on the podcast to help us.Find out more about his Circling Guide here: https://circlingguide.com/Contribute to the fundraiser here: https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-the-circling-guide-3rd-editionSubscribe to his newsletter here: https://marcobeneteau.substack.com/Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

These five weird books will change your life. This isn’t a list of great books you’ve already read. No, no. These are a bit off the beaten path, but they all support a spirit-forward life. These will guide you, support you, and even entertain you, whether you are seeking enlightenment, sainthood, or a little growth in the right direction.Below is the full list with links to buy them:Spacecruiser Inquiry by A.H. AlmaasThiftbooksBookshop.orgGetting Our Bodies Back by Christine CaldwellThriftbooksBookshop.orgNew Seeds of Contemplation by Thomas MertonThriftbooksBookshop.orgEasyway to Quit Smoking by Allen CarrThriftbooksBookshop.orgThe Wild Edge of Sorrow by Francis WellerThriftbooksBookshop.orgSupport Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

Boundaries define us. They draw the border of the country of ourselves. They help us negotiate relationships. They help us discover what's important to us. And when they are violated, they call us to go inward and pursue explosive personal growth.The Circling practice in particular allows us to discover our edges and learn how to be artful when we move into deep territory in others. All that and more on this very special episode.Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

It's our Halloween Episode of The Container! We discuss the power of masks that we wear in our lives: the Cool Guy, the Good Mother, the Professional, etc. Sometimes, we struggle to feel authentic while wearing masks, but there is so much more to what's going on. If we are really paying attention, it even touches our ability to shape reality.We also see how circling is such a rich practice space to explore masks and how Halloween is the perfect technology to understand the best approach.This is based broadly on our most recent newsletter, which you can find here. | https://the-containers-newsletter.beehiiv.com/p/on-wearing-masksAlso, this episode marks our official two-year anniversary of the show. Thanks for being here for the ride.Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

What do archetypal stories like Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, and the Gruffalo teach our families? How can we more consciously relate with these contemporary sources of mythic images? And can we use them to raise children and fortify ourselves on our own journeys?Sean Wilkinson of Transformational Connection comes on The Container to answer all these questions (and many more).🔗 Learn more about Transformational Connection👉 https://www.transformationalconnection.org/🌿 Book your stay at the Connection Hub in PortugalLooking for a retreat space rooted in the practice of Surrendered Leadership? The Connection Hub in Portugal is now open for bookings. It’s a home for Circling intensives, relational immersions, and personal transformation. Visit the TC site for details and availability. 👉 https://www.transformationalconnection.com/transformational-connection-house-bookingSupport Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

This episode is a can't miss. Hannah Hellsing comes on the podcast to talk about Power. And in a first for our show, Sigh hosts solo. Together, we explore the meaning of power and how we can work with it in the practice.Just like the previous Jordan Myska Allen episode, this engages the evergreen issue of power in the practice but from an exciting new perspective.Hannah Hellsing is a therapist and coach who has experience certifying through Transformational Connection's SAS program. If you'd like to work with here, you can reach her at: [email protected] is a link to the Emerald episode Hannah refers to: On Powers, Great and SmallSupport Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

Power dynamics and hierarchy are rarely talked about features of any community. In Circling, where so many participants value egalitarianism, this can become tricky.So let’s dive into it with one of the world’s leading experts on the practice! Jordan Myska Allen is a veteran of the art of circling who has pioneered the practice while also creating an organization devoted to it. On this episode, we explore the gifts and perils of power in a circle with him. And yeah, this is feeling like part one of a million-part series, doesn't it?📚 Check out Jordan’s Substack here! (https://jordanmallen.substack.com/)📚 Check out the Relateful Company here! (https://www.relateful.com/)Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

Okay, so you've woken up. You've escaped the Matrix. Now what?What do we actually do? And what kind of world can we start building now that we're on the spiritual path?All this and much more with this massive interview.📚 Join Rob’s group work here: https://bedroomgenius.com/ Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

The amazing John Thompson comes back into The Container for a discussion coming at you from the very frontiers of the relational arts. We talk about how these practices can be taught to just about anybody, how to work with anger and eros, and how to artfully deploy boundaries.Check out his incredible team at Transformational Connection.Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

Do we have the ultimate unplug from the real Matrix? Did aliens implant religion into humanity as a psyop? What's going on with emotions anyway?This conversation goes EXTREMELY deep into how we navigate moving into and out of the Matrix: the network of constructions, helpful fictions, ideologies, and notions that make up the world we know. 📚 Join Rob’s group work here: https://bedroomgenius.com/ Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

DISCLAIMER: Some of the conversation was a bit too controversial for the RSS feed, so we've put the full, unedited discussion up on our Patreon.In this conversation, we welcome Rob Kancler back on the show to talk about the Matrix, both what it is and how we enter and exit it at will.We discuss the implications of the Matrix on personal development, sexuality, and community dynamics. And yes, we lean HEAVILY on the metaphor of the Matrix.📚 Join Rob’s group work here: https://bedroomgenius.com/ Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

Can you feel the world waking back up to God and magic? In this conversation, Jonathan and Sigh crack open The Container to explore how anyone can rediscover an enchanted life even in the Post-AI Era.Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

Raven Elise is a healer, life coach, and expert in manifestation. On this episode, we dive deep into her new oracle deck, as well as the fine points of magnetizing what you want. 🔮 Check out her oracle deck and coaching services on her website here. | https://www.itsjustraven.com/Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

The AI revolution changes everything. And as humanity navigates our way through this tumultuous moment in history, it might be time to turn once again to the spiritual technology of religion.Check out our AI prompt for meditation hereCheck out our interview with Leif Hansen on AI hereSupport Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

What if the traits we associate with developmental trauma are signs of a unique relational intelligence?In this episode, we sit down with Sean Wilkinson, co-founder of Transformational Connection, to explore how early life experiences shape our sensitivity to connection—and how mystical, relational practices can explore and grow in this capacity.Whether you’re a practitioner of the relational arts or simply someone seeking healing outside the clinical box, this conversation has something for you.🔗 Learn more about Transformational Connection👉 https://www.transformationalconnection.org/🌿 Book your stay at the Connection Hub in PortugalLooking for a retreat space rooted in the practice of Surrendered Leadership? The Connection Hub in Portugal is now open for bookings. It’s a home for Circling intensives, relational immersions, and personal transformation. Visit the TC site for details and availability.👉 https://www.transformationalconnection.com/transformational-connection-house-bookingSupport Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

Brad Mewhort teaches us about the Stages of Consciousness and this practice of circling that helps evolve through them.Brad is a hypnotherapist and facilitator. He’s also a writer. He penned the book The Peaceful Man about addressing and healing from male-on-male violence.⭕️For more information about Brad's late-stage Circling groups, you can email him at [email protected]🧘‍♂️Try out Brad's hypnotherapy📖Check out his book The Peaceful ManConnect to him by email here: [email protected] more on circling:A quick video explaining the practiceA blog explaining the practiceSupport Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

Leif Hansen gives us a deeply spiritual look at the AI revolution and what it means. Truly, the aliens have landed. Already, we can use these tools to delve into the depths of our psyches, form new and more fulfilling relationships with technology, and grasp what consciousness really is.Find more of Leif's work here:🤖 Check out Leif's new FutureLab ChatBot for his upcoming Catalyst Collective🧘‍♂️Coaching and other inquiriesSupport Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

Ryle Kestano is a major name in the Authentic Relating movement--he literally wrote the book on the topic. In this discussion, he shares his thoughts on bringing these important practices beyond the workshop format and into our everyday lives with everyone we know.His message calls us to make more powerful and real connections. Despite all the reasons we might have to reject or refuse people, can we show up for more authenticity in every part of our life? 🎓 You can learn Authentic Relating from the group Ryel co-founded here at AuthenticRelating.co. 📖 And you can find the book Authentic Relating by Ryel Kestano wherever books are sold.Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

Susan Campbell returns to talk about the fear of death. It's harrowing, it's confronting, but it's also a pathway to deep self-learning. 📬 Get Susan Campbell's fantastic Substack here. 🎧 Plus, listen to Episodes 24 and 25 to hear Susan walk us through her incredible From Triggered to Tranquil system. 📚 You can also find her extraordinary books (we highly recommend them) for sale here.Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

Jason Digges is an absolute legend in the world of circling and authentic relating. So we were happy to have him back to discuss his journey opening up a new circling school.What makes his school different?Jason is resurrecting the Integral Circling movement. It’s also offering an affordable way to practice with plans starting at just $40 a month.📚 Check out Jason Digges’ circling school here: https://www.integralcirclingschool.comAlso, check out episodes 19 and 20 for more Jason Digges!Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

This is the second half of our series of interviews with Rob Kancler. He is a guide and spiritual teacher for men who want to become pioneers of their sexual futures. His work opens our eyes to the million myths and false narratives that bind our energies and block the full expression of who we are and what we could become.If you love this discussion, make sure to check out Episode 55.📚 Join Rob’s group work here: https://bedroomgenius.com/ Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

We all know social media is broken. Jordan Myska Allen and the team at UpTrust are trying to fix that.How? They’re integrating insights from the relational arts as well as enormous, civilization-wide considerations of how trust works and how people keep an open mind.It might be the first-ever high-consciousness social media platform. And you can become a part of it by joining the waitlist.📚 Sign up for the waitlist here! (http://uptrusting.com/join-waitlist)**Note** we will return to the second part of our mega-discussion with Rob Kancler in two weeks. We needed to rush this episode out so people could get on the waitlist!Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

Rob Kancler guides men to become pioneers of their sexual futures. His work opens our eyes to the million myths and false narratives that bind our energies and block the full expression of who we are and what we could become.Plus, he’s a great conversationalist.In this long episode, we talk about all kinds of topics related to sexuality, the body, and reaching mystical states through union. Our next episode will bring you more Rob Kancler, so if you love this, just wait for your second serving!📚 Join Rob’s group work here: https://ihatenothavinggreatsexallthetime.com/ Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

Marina Weiler is an Assistant Professor of Psychiatry and Neurobehavioral Sciences in the UVA Division of Perceptual Studies.That’s one way to say that she scientifically studies out-of-body experiences (or OBEs). This research is deeply confronting to a purely materialist view of the world, and it helps us understand better how consciousness works.Anyone who has circled for an extended period of time has likely induced an OBE (or something like it) in the practice. Even if you haven’t, you’ve probably had some kind of experience that seriously undermines the idea that consciousness is simply something made by the brain.We brought on Marina Weiler to teach us about her work and then, in typical Container fashion, we give her an opportunity to go into her full view of the universe.📚 Check out the Division of Perceptual Studies at UVA! (https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual-studies/)Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

Jordan Myska Allen. He pioneered many fundamental practices in the art of circling and authentic relating—and he coined an entirely new paradigm to file this work under: Relatefulness.And his organization (the Relateful Company in Austin, Texas) is the leading center of the relational arts in the United States. We talk about this thing of ours, with Jordan pushing us to go beyond the axioms and maxims that guide the practice for most of us. Instead, he pursues a radical interrogation of everything, willing to circle even the sacred cows of “Welcome Everything” and… as we will see right away… what dropping in could even mean.Whether you are new to circling or have been wading in the deep waters of transformational connection for decades, this conversation will connect you to the spiritual core of the practice.📚 Check out the Relateful Company here! (www.relateful.com)Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

In our final episode of the Advent season, we welcome the luminous Scout Rainer Wiley—mystical writer, ritual artist, and contemplative spirit. Known for her ability to weave esoteric wisdom with grounded, real-world insights, Scout takes us on a journey through her reflections on writing, living a sacred life, the importance of ritual, and how natural disasters (even a hurricane) can serve as an emergent ritual ordeal for an entire community.📚 Check out Scout's website here! (https://scoutrainerwiley.com/)📰 Read her Substack here! (https://hyperphantasiia.substack.com/)Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

Alicen Grey is many things—a writer, a musician, a mystic, and a magician. She comes on The Container to talk about Jesus Christ and the secret of free energy. We also cover why opening ourselves up to the magic and power of Christianity can be so difficult given our personal histories and previous encounters with the religion.This very special episode comes just in time for Advent season. We are so grateful to be able to share it with you in this time of year. Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas! 🔗 Find Alicen Grey at: https://www.alicen-grey.com/ 🔗 Find her music here: https://whenhumanshadwings.com/discography/ Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

Mahaya Alina Sikorsky is a circling facilitator and life coach who works with The Connection Institute. She shares how this practice changed her life and how it can catalyze a profound shift in the world by developing New Earth Consciousness.🔗 Mahaya at The Connection InstituteCheck out Episodes 33 and 34 for interviews with Melody Indigo Markel who also works at The Connection Institute!Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

Mark Walsh is a lot of things, but if you know his name, it’s likely because of his work with embodiment. And he blends life coaching with weight training to give young men guidance.We brought him on to talk about the issues facing men and how weightlifting can help.And along the way… we talk about politics. A first for The Container—and edgy territory for us to get into.🔗 Find him online at: https://www.embodimentunlimited.com🔗 Find his YouTube Channel at: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfgLCTiNzVpIeL_j7Icxh8w🔗 Find his Podcast at: https://embodimentunlimited.com/podcast/🔗 Find his Feral Philosophy show at: https://www.youtube.com/@FeralPhilosophy_mwSupport Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

Peter Munthe-Kaas is a master of the Circling Europe tradition. He hops into the Container to discuss his blend of Circling, Tai Chi, and Daoism.🔗Find him online at: www.munthe-kaas.dkThis ties into our ongoing investigation in the Dao and Circling. You can see more of that in Episode 38: The Tao Te Ching and Circling and Episode 40: Who Is the Master in the Tao Te Ching?And, of course, Patreon members get all the episodes of our series The Way That Can Be Told, which goes chapter-by-chapter through the Tao Te Ching, looking at it as a guide to circling.Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

We get hands-on, practical tools from a master of the relational arts—Michael Porcelli.He is the creator of MetaRelating, a powerful system blending Authentic Relating with broader communication and psychological frameworks. In this episode, Porcelli introduces a ton of helpful concepts, including the "We-Creature," a dynamic third entity between two people that needs attention and care. 🔗 For more on MetaRelating, visit: MetaRelating.com🔗 Check out Porcelli's free events and webinars here: MetaRelating LinktreeSupport Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

This episode brings us the thoughts and experience of none other than Sean Wilkinson, co-founder of Circling Europe. He walks us through the power (and dangers) of tapping into life force.Deep bow to Sean and his extraordinary contributions to human connection and awakening. We are so humbled to bring you this conversation.Check out the Circling Europe website here.To get a refresher on Surrendered Leadership, check out our interview with Circling Europe co-founder John Thompson where he describes the practice in detail on Episode 31 here.Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

Martje Witzel comes back on the show to talk about deep connection. To each other and even to the earth itself. In this state of deep connection, we can expand our minds and discover the real meaning of things like "love" and "God."For more information on Martje, check out her website here.Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

Martje Witzel is a life coach and surrendered leadership facilitator.  Sharing space with her, you can immediately feel the power of her presence and the commitment she has to the practice.In this discussion, she helps us orient to the profound (and often bizarre) features of fields created under surrendered leadership. We continue to broaden our horizons until we find ourselves at the ultimate questions.And that's where we'll continue the conversation next week!For more information on Martje, check out her website here.Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

For those of us who circle and practice surrendered leadership, we've all tasted the magic in what we do. I think that means we could learn a lot (and grow a lot) from seeing how people in the world of magic organize themselves and create heightened states of presence and oneness (a cosmic version of connection).To give us that perspective, Carolyn Lovewell comes back on the podcast. She helps us understand the importance of mystery schools and their place in the Western esoteric tradition.To learn more about her work, go to her website.To check out the Immortal College, go to their website here.Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

We're back on the third rung of the Container spiral!We discuss Existential K/nk with Carolyn Lovewell (formerly Carolyn Eliot). She guides us through her discovery and creation of the single best shadow work system available today.To learn more about her work, go to her website.It's Episode 42. As you may know, 42 is a powerful number in the Kabbalah. In this system, the 42-letter name of God is used to connect to the days of creation, the Sephirah with their corresponding planets, and more. Mystics can enter multi-level states of consciousness by repeating this name like a mantra.And so, it is the perfect episode to launch our new series in "The Beyond." We'll be using the Relational Arts to go into the furthest reaches of consciousness, past our everyday life and into the occluded spheres of being that call to us in dream, as darkness falls and sky country twinkles with ten thousand points of angelic light.It all starts here with Carolyn Lovewell, our High Priestess welcoming us past the veil into the mysteries of The Beyond.Make sure to reach out and connect at our Facebook group. There, we are discovering the ways that circling can help us spiritually awaken.Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏

In this episode, we outline the six books we would recommend to anyone looking to take their circling practice deeper.Tao Te Ching translated by Stephen MitchellI Ching translated by Benebell WenNonviolent Communication by Marshall RosenbergGetting Real by Susan CampbellExistential Kink by Carolyn Elliot/LovewellNo Bad Parts by Richard SchwartzWe are also announcing a break! We'll be back to launch the next rung of the spiral on August 26th!In the meantime, you can catch us at Circling Europe's International Transformational Connection Festival 2024.Plus, make sure to reach out and connect at our Facebook group. There, we are discovering the ways that circling can help us spiritually awaken. More on that when we come back from break.Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletterConnect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook groupKeep it namaste 🙏