The Heart & Science of Leadership

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The Heart & Science of Leadership

The Heart & Science of Leadership" podcast, co-hosted by Dr. Paulie and A.J. Rinaldi, combines their diverse backgrounds in leadership to offer a comprehensive view on what it takes to lead effectively, no matter your position—be it executive, teacher, manager, principal, supervisor, or coach. Together, they explore the balance between the human side of leadership and evidence-based practices, providing listeners with practical tools, real-life stories, and actionable strategies. Whether you're a seasoned leader or just starting your journey, this podcast delivers valuable insights that blend heart and science for impactful leadership in any setting.

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    Leadership When Life Hits Back: The Paul Anthony Episode

    Send us Fan MailMost people brag about leadership when things are working. When the check clears, the metrics are green, and applause is still flowing. But what happens when the spotlight shuts off… or your body betrays you… or life delivers a sentence most people don’t come back from?In this episode, Dr. Paul “Paulie” Gavoni and AJ Rinaldi sit down with the legendary Paul Anthony — a global music icon turned three-time cancer champion — to explore what leadership looks like when everything that used to define you is gone… except your identity, your energy, and your behavior.Paul’s reaction to a diagnosis labeled “fatal” wasn’t fear. It was clarity:“I’m not changing sh*t.” Not because he ignored reality — but because he refused to surrender the core of who he was.This is an episode about identity under pressure, behavior under fire, and the type of leadership that can’t be faked because it’s lived.🌟 Who Is Paul Anthony? Paul Anthony is a Grammy Award–certified producer, singer, songwriter, and cultural force from the legendary group FULL FORCE, with multiple Diamond, Platinum, and Gold records. He’s collaborated with icons like James Brown, Rihanna, Justin Timberlake, The Black Eyed Peas, Patti Labelle, Nicky Minaj, Britney Spears, Eminem, and more — and starred in the groundbreaking films House Party 1 & 2.He helped introduce fitness and bodybuilding into hip-hop and pop culture long before it was mainstream.And then life tested him again — not onstage, but in the hospital. He is now a three-time cancer champion, a two-time bone marrow transplant survivor, and a National Advisory Board member for Moffitt Cancer Center.Paul isn’t just a creator of hits. He is a creator of hope, purpose, and behavioral leadership under the harshest conditions possible.🕒 Timestamps & Key MomentsTimeTopic00:00 | Welcome to The Heart & Science of Leadership02:10 | Paul Anthony’s early years, music career, and purpose05:42 | The biopsy and the words “incurable and fatal”06:18 | “I’m not changing sh*t” — decision over reaction08:41 | Leadership as energy, not ego11:52 | “This AND that” — ending scarcity thinking13:10 | Thousands helped by his mindset and message16:27 | What legacy looks like when it’s behavioral19:05 | “I don’t need applause. I need impact.”22:40 | The shift from entertainer to transformational leader27:14 | Paul’s call to leaders: stop performing, start reinforcing lives🧠 Leadership Takeaways Behavior is identity. When pressure rises, reinforcement history is exposed.Leaders who stay anchored to values under stress create psychological safety for others.“This AND that” is a behavioral pivot — widening contingencies instead of shrinking choice.Legacy is measurable: it’s the behavior others repeat because of youPick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    Change Isn’t Optional: What Every Leader Needs to Know

    Send us Fan MailIn this episode of The Heart & Science of Leadership Podcast, Dr. Paulie and Aj tackle one of the toughest challenges leaders face: change. They explore how change can feel like both an exciting opportunity and a sucker punch in the gut. Drawing on behavior science and real-world leadership experience, Paulie and Aj break down how leaders can navigate change effectively, turning disruption into growth. Whether you’re leading a team, department, or entire organization, this episode offers practical strategies and candid insights to help you manage change with confidence and clarity. Tune in for a fresh perspective on leading through the ups and downs of transformation. Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    The Science of Effective Feedback

    Send us Fan MailImagine leadership without feedback. It's like trying to navigate a ship without instruments or stars – virtually impossible. In this episode of The Heart & Science of Leadership Podcast, Dr. Paulie Gavoni and A.J. Rinaldi dive deep into one of the most misunderstood tools in a leader’s toolbox—feedback.📢 Feedback isn't just a way to correct mistakes—it's a powerful lever for shaping culture, improving performance, and building trust. But too often, it's delivered haphazardly, inconsistently, or with the wrong intent.Based on content from Dr. Paulie's best-selling book, The Feedback Effect, they explore:Why most leaders get feedback wrongThe behavior science behind effective feedback loopsCommon myths that sabotage team performancePractical, actionable strategies to give (and get) feedback that actually worksWhether you're leading a team, managing a classroom, or coaching others to succeed, this episode breaks down how to use feedback not as a tool for control—but as a catalyst for growth.🧠 It’s not just about saying something—it’s about shaping something.Remember, leadership isn't about intent, it's about impact.Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    Clear and Compelling: Leading with Vision, Voice, and Authenticity with Salvatore J. Manzi

    Send us Fan MailIn this episode, we sit down with communication strategist and leadership coach Salvatore J. Manzi, author of The Clear and Compelling Playbook. With over two decades of experience helping individuals and organizations elevate their presence and clarity, Salvatore shares powerful insights on how to lead with purpose, speak with intention, and create meaningful change—whether you’re in the boardroom, on stage, or navigating day-to-day conversations.We explore what it really means to align your message with your mission, and how to bring your most authentic self to every interaction. From coaching top executives to guiding TEDx speakers, Salvatore brings a wealth of practical tools and behavioral insight to help leaders at every level communicate more effectively and connect more deeply.Whether you're a seasoned leader or an emerging one, this conversation will challenge your assumptions, sharpen your skills, and remind you that real leadership is a daily practice—not a position.🔗 Learn more and grab the book: clearandcompellingplaybook.com 🔗 Connect with Salvatore on LinkedIn: Salvatore J. Manzi | LinkedIn🧠 Leadership is behavior. Let’s unlock it—and unleash potential. And remember, it's about impact, not title or intent!Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    Inside the Mind of a Fortune 10 Leader: Kyle McDowell on Leading with WE

    Send us Fan MailIn this compelling episode, Dr. Paulie and co-host AJ Rinaldi engage with Kyle McDowell, a former Fortune 10 executive turned leadership coach and bestselling author of Begin With WE. Kyle shares his journey from leading tens of thousands in corporate America to pioneering a leadership philosophy centered on collective empowerment.They delve into the pitfalls of "me-oriented" leadership and explore Kyle's "10 WEs" framework—principles designed to dismantle dysfunction and foster a culture of excellence. Through candid discussions, Kyle emphasizes the importance of authenticity, accountability, and leading by example to inspire teams and drive meaningful change.Whether you're navigating the complexities of organizational leadership or seeking to cultivate a more inclusive and effective team environment, this episode offers actionable insights grounded in real-world experience.🔑 Key Takeaways:Transitioning from individualistic to collective leadership mindsetsImplementing the "10 WEs" to build cohesive and high-performing teamsEmbracing vulnerability and authenticity as leadership strengthsStrategies for transforming toxic work cultures into thriving communitiesFor more on Kyle's leadership philosophy and resources, visit kylemcdowellinc.com.Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    Observable, Measurable, Impactful: Redefining Leadership with Behavior Science

    Send us Fan MailLeadership isn’t a title—it’s a behavior. And while there’s no shortage of leadership theories floating around, this episode goes beneath the surface. Dr. Paul “Paulie” Gavoni and A.J. Rinaldi take a sharp, scientific look at what truly drives leadership that works.Instead of parroting popular slogans, they dig into the behaviors, decisions, and contingencies that make—or break—leaders. It’s not about charisma or command. It’s about the observable, measurable behaviors that produce real results.“We’re not just talking about what leadership looks like—we’re talking about what it produces. That’s where the science comes in.” – Dr. Paulie GavoniWhether you’re running a school, leading a team, or just trying to lead yourself more effectively, this episode lays the behavioral groundwork.📘 Ready to level up? Grab your copy of Positional Authority Ain’t Leadership—a no-fluff blueprint for influencing performance through the science of human behavior.Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    The Leadership Language: How to Communicate for Influence, Trust, and Success

    Send us Fan MailEver wonder why some leaders instantly command respect while others struggle to get their message across? The secret lies not in what they say, but how they communicate it.Communication represents the fundamental difference between leadership that merely directs and leadership that transforms. In this thought-provoking episode, Dr. Paul Gavoni and AJ Rinaldi unpack the five critical dimensions of leadership communication that drive organizational success: reinforcing for production, resolving for partnership, reciting for inspiration, reflecting for authenticity, and receiving for understanding.The conversation reveals surprising insights about the science of human behavior, including the optimal 4:1 ratio of positive to corrective feedback and why our natural tendency to focus on problems actually undermines our leadership effectiveness. Both hosts candidly share their personal struggles with public speaking—once their greatest fear—and how they transformed this weakness into a strength through deliberate practice and mindset shifts.Perhaps most powerfully, they challenge the common assumption that communication flows primarily downward in organizations. "When was the last time you directed positive feedback up the chain?" Dr. Gavoni asks, highlighting how true communication creates a culture of mutual respect that flows in all directions. Through practical examples, compelling research, and memorable stories, this episode provides a comprehensive framework for communication that builds trust, resolves conflict, and inspires exceptional performance.Whether you're leading a small team or an entire organization, these evidence-based communication strategies will help you move beyond good intentions to create lasting impact. After all, as the hosts remind us, leadership isn't about title or intent—it's about impact.Link to Respect is a 2-Way Street ArticlePick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    From Hiring to Inspiring: The Art & Science of Team Development

    Send us Fan MailJohn Maxwell once said, “If you think you're leading and no one is following, you're just taking a walk.” Leadership isn’t about titles—it’s about the team you build, develop, and inspire. In this episode, we’re breaking down the 5 P’s of Team Building—Pursuing, Promoting, Purging, Pushing, and Pulling—to help you create a high-performing team that doesn’t just follow but thrives.From attracting top talent to making tough calls on underperformance, from fueling motivation to inspiring action, we dive deep into the behavioral science behind effective leadership. Join us as we explore the strategies that separate real leaders from those just taking a walk.🎧 Tune in and learn how to build a team that wins—together.Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    Redefining Leadership: What It Truly Means and Why It Matters

    Send us Fan MailUnlock the secrets to impactful leadership with insights from Dr. Paul "Paulie" Gavoni and AJ Rinaldi. Discover how real leadership transcends titles and transforms cultures by focusing on influence and authenticity. Dr. Paulie reveals his journey from social work to leadership, driven by a passion for improving leadership practices. Meanwhile, AJ shares his wealth of experience in youth work and education, inspired by the wisdom of John Maxwell. Together, they offer a fresh perspective on the nuanced dance between leadership and management, urging us to look beyond mere positions to the heart of influence.This episode promises to equip you with practical tools and real-world examples to enhance your leadership skills, no matter your formal position. Embark on a journey with us to redefine leadership as a set of behaviors that can transform not only organizations but also lives.Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    Revolutionizing ABA Clinics: Harnessing AI and Technology for Enhanced Care with Michael Gao and Christina Morales

    Send us Fan MailBCBAs and RBTs enter the field to create meaningful change for learners, but more and more is being dumped on their backs, draining their energy and impacting the quality of care. This burden also sucks the life out of leaders, making it harder to retain talent and maintain high standards. But what if there was a way to ease the load while enhancing outcomes? In this episode, Michael Gao, an innovative software developer, and my authentic friend Christina Morales, CEO of Piece of the Puzzle and founder of the IQR Group, explore how cutting-edge technology is reshaping behavior analysis.We discuss Michael's game-changing platform, successfully piloted by Christina, that uses AI tools like Alpaca Assistant to automate administrative tasks, from session notes to intakes, allowing professionals to focus on what truly matters. Christina also shares her inspiring journey as an autism mom, driving her to create inclusive organizations like Piece of the Puzzle and Believe and Achieve. Together, we highlight the challenges of scaling ABA services and emphasize the critical role of leadership, systems, and innovation in sustaining growth while embedding values like inclusion and respect.If you're ready to see how technology can reduce workload, improve efficiency, and help behavior analysis professionals rediscover their passion, tune in—and don't forget to check out Christina’s podcast, Know Yourself to Grow Yourself, for more leadership and personal growth insights!About the guests:Michael Gao is the Founder and CEO of Alpaca Health. They are developing Alpaca Assistant, the last admin hire for ABA agencies. To try Alpaca Assistant's session note-generation feature, head over to www.alpacahealth.io. Christina Morales, an Autism mom, BCBA, and the CEO of Piece of the Puzzle Behavior Analysis, is a truly authentic leader and a dear friend. Her work is driven by her personal journey with her son, Vinny, and her unwavering dedication to supporting individuals with disabilities. Christina also founded the IQR Group, which includes impactful initiatives like Bumblebee Academy, an inclusive learning center; PACE, a life and social skills program for teens; Believe & Achieve, a nonprofit fostering acceptance and awareness; and Include & Connect, a resource hub for families. Her passion and authenticity shine through in everything she does.Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    Enhancing Behavior Analysis through Motivational Interviewing: Building Connections and Preventing Burnout with Dr. Monica Gilbert

    Send us Fan MailHow can behavior analysts build better relationships and avoid burning out? In this episode, Dr. Monica Gilbert and I dig into the game-changing power of Motivational Interviewing (MI) in behavior analysis. Monica’s journey—from working with people battling substance use to bringing MI into her ABA practice—shows just how powerful reflective listening and open-ended questions can be. Not only do they cut down on client dropouts, but they also help build genuine connections. We’ll share real-life stories and practical tips on using these tools to boost engagement and create real, lasting change—without the burnout.We also dive deep into what makes MI tick and how it’s different from the usual solution-focused methods. One key takeaway? Getting parents and other stakeholders involved in problem-solving makes a world of difference when it comes to creating lasting, meaningful change. It’s not just about techniques; it’s about having patience, empathy, and adjusting our mindset when working with different people—whether it’s parents, teachers, or anyone else. We even tackle the ethical side of blending ABA with MI, focusing on aligning with clients’ goals and staying transparent. Trust me, this conversation is all about building stronger connections, staying true to your values, and avoiding the exhaustion that comes with the grind.If you are interested in learning more about Motivational Interviewing, check out Motivational Interviewing: Getting Educator Buy-In. Anika Costa, Matt Cicoria, and I spent a year researching, designing, and producing this course to make it as engaging and meaningful as possible. If you want to begin your journey toward becoming fluent in MI techniques, enroll in our course today! Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    Building a Culture of Kindness: Strategies to Combat Bullying

    Send us Fan MailIn this episode, I’m tackling a topic that’s incredibly close to my heart: "Breaking the Cycle: A Behavior-Based Approach to Bullying Prevention." Growing up, I experienced just a small amount of bullying—so few incidents I could probably count them on one hand—but the impact was profound. It shaped me in ways I didn’t fully understand until later. For some kids, though, this isn’t a rare occurrence; it’s a daily struggle. Their courage to show up every day is remarkable.Addressing bullying requires a comprehensive, multi-pronged approach. This episode dives into strategies that cover all fronts: supporting those being bullied, challenging those who bully, empowering bystanders, and equipping educators with practical tools to create safer environments. And as I wrapped up this content, I realized these insights don’t just apply to kids—they’re incredibly relevant for adults facing challenges in the workplace, too.I’ve made this content available across different platforms because it needs to be heard and shared. You can find this episode in The Behavioral Toolbox Newsletter and on my YouTube Channel as well. Whether you’re using it to support a student, a classroom, a school assembly, or even distributing it across an entire district, the message remains the same—together, we can break the cycle.🎧 Listen, share, and be part of the change!Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    Transforming Lives Through Behavioral Science: Kendall Ryndak Samuel Samuel on Empowerment and Innovation

    Send us Fan MailEver wondered how behavioral science can change lives? Join us as we sit down with the insightful Kendall Ryndak Samuel, a dedicated behavior analyst who transitioned from an aspiring school counselor to a pioneer in the field of behavioral science. Kendall shares her captivating journey, fueled by a high school psychology class that sparked a deep passion for operant and classical conditioning. Throughout our discussion, she reveals her inspiring work with children with autism and intellectual disabilities, and her ambitious dream to expand the application of behavior analysis.Behavioral science can seem daunting, but Kendall and I tackle the challenge of making it accessible to everyone. We explore the necessity of translating complex concepts into everyday language, taking cues from popular books like James Clear's "Atomic Habits." Our conversation also unpacks how understanding fundamental behavioral principles can enhance emotional intelligence, emphasizing the power of clear, relatable communication. We uncover a gap in resources that simplify these concepts and discuss the importance of bridging that divide to share the benefits of behavioral science with a broader audience.Check out her book Talk Behavior to Me: The Routledge Dictionary of the Top 150 Behavior Analytic Terms and Translations. This book teaches readers how to not only understand behavior analysis concepts and principles in layman's terms, but it helps translate the highly complex language behavior analysts use to be more palatable for non-behavior analytic audiences. Find Kendall on TikTok and Instagram @the.behavior.influencer. You can also contact her through email: [email protected]. Her book will be available on Amazon, BaPick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    Harnessing Passion and Integrity for Leadership and Growth with Troy Burg

    Send us Fan MailEver wondered how a background in nutrition can lead to a flourishing career in Applied Behavior Analysis and Organizational Behavior Management? Behavior analyst Troy Burg shares his unique journey from direct support work to ABA expertise in this enlightening episode. Troy reveals how his early experiences fueled a passion for behavior analysis, merging interests in helping others and business. We discuss the emerging potential for ABA to become a mainstream career path, much like medicine or law, and how these principles extend beyond traditional business settings, influencing education and more.Troy shares insights on integrity and shared values, emphasizing passion-driven work as a catalyst for meaningful change. Tune in to hear Troy's compelling story and discover how you can integrate these principles into your own life and work.Troy has a Master of Science in Applied Behavior Analysis. Over the past couple of years, he has combined his education in the science of ABA with his marketing skills to create his online network. He specializes in disseminating information related to both ABA and OBM. Specifically, he enjoys showing people how behavioral science plays into marketing. He also likes designing experimental social media designs to demonstrate how behavioral science benefits the average marketer.Troy enjoys golfing and watching sports with his friends in his free time. His favorite sports include football, basketball, baseball, hockey, and golf.You can learn more about Troy at the following links:Website: https://www.troyburg.com/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@behavioralstoriesInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/behavioralstories/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/troy-burg-2999831ba/Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    Bridging the Gap: Enhancing RBT Training and Supervision through OBM and Mentorship with Stephanie Waldon

    Send us Fan MailIn this episode I dig into the importance of  improving training standards for Registered Behavior Technicians (RBTs) with special guest Stephanie Waldon, a recent master's graduate in Applied Behavior Analysis from FIT. Stephanie shares her firsthand experiences and passion for ABA, highlighting the critical need for better training, effective supervision, and meaningful mentorship. Through her journey from a novice RBT to a training manager, Stephanie recounts her initial low expectations shaped by various companies and the transformative impact of high-quality training, and the guidance of her mentor.In this episode, we highlight the stark realities faced by RBTs because of the gap between theoretical knowledge and practical application of ABA that occurs oftentimes due to inadequate supervision and support and how incorporating Organizational Behavior Management (OBM) and robust simulations in coursework can bridge these gaps. Stephanie emphasizes the importance of supervision training in graduate programs and advocates for data-driven feedback loops to ensure RBTs are well-prepared and valued in their roles.Join Stephanie and me in exploring the power of positive reinforcement and the importance of emotional (behavioral) support in the workplace. Learn how small gestures and a supportive organizational structure can significantly improve team morale and reduce employee turnover. We also discuss practical strategies for fostering a nurturing work environment, promoting professional development, and the vital role of leadership in creating a culture of trust and mutual respect. This episode is packed with insights and practical advice for anyone passionate about enhancing the field of ABA.Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    Decoding Criminal Behavior: Forensic Behavior Analysis and Jeffrey Dahmer with Presley Wanner

    Send us Fan MailUnlock the secrets of the criminal mind with behavior scientist Presley Wanner, as we navigate the intriguing intersection of behavior analysis and forensic investigation. Imagine peering through the eyes of a behavior analyst at the crime scenes frequented by law enforcement professionals; we do just that, offering a fresh and compelling perspective that could redefine criminal profiling. Join me on a journey into the darkest corners of human actions, where we dissect the fabric of criminal behavior, from the infamous deeds of Jeffrey Dahmer to the principles that govern everyday transgressions.We also wrap up with a critical discussion on the future of law enforcement and community safety, where positive reinforcement triumphs over punishment, and training transforms into meaningful, lasting change. We share inspiring success stories from schools to streets, highlighting the transformative power of behavior analysis in creating safer, more compassionate communities. This episode is more than an educational exploration; it's a rallying cry for a reimagined approach to behavior in our justice system and beyond, laying the groundwork for a society that's both safer and inherently more understanding of the human condition.Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    Shaping Corporate Success through Organizational Behavior Science with Francisco Gomez

    Send us Fan MailIn this episode, my good friend and Vice President at Aubrey Daniels International, Francisco Gomez, breaks down the application of Organizational Behavior Management strategies in organizations. If you are interested in learning more about OBM and leadership, this is definitely an episode for you. Francisco, an OOG in this space, has supported organizations with improving performance and achieving valued outcomes across different industries across the globe!About Francisco:With a career that has encompassed performance management consulting for multiple industrial sectors across the globe, as well as executive positions in the tech industry, Francisco consolidates this experience to generate results and bring value to his customers.Francisco is a board member for industrial as well as a nonprofit organizations and serves as public speaker and columnist on behavioral science and performance management. He and his family currently reside in Asheville, North Carolina. In his free time, he enjoys spending time in the North Carolina mountains and playing music. Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    Revolutionizing Professional Sports: Brett Yaris on Behavior Analysis in the NFL

    Send us Fan MailDive into the revolutionary world of professional sports through the lens of behavior analysis with my guest, Brett Yaris. Brett is breaking the mold by integrating Applied Behavior Analysis with NFL training methods. His unique path from special education to professional football coaching challenges traditional coaching methods and sparks new ways of thinking. In this episode, we'll take a look at Brett's career including the transition from special education to coaching NFL athletes.This conversation is essential for anyone interested in how behavior analysis can be applied outside its usual settings. If you are interested in learning more about expanding your own career and pursuing your passion,  stay tuned for an upcoming webinar titled "The Path Less Taken: A Roadmap for Behavior Analysts Seeking New Avenues" where Dr. Nick Green and I unpack the behavioral principles that have not only supported our success but can also serve as a guide for others seeking to navigate their way to fulfilling careers outside the conventional applications of ABA. This webinar promises empowerment, offering strategies, insights, and the inspiration needed to take the plunge into new domains where behavior analysts can thrive, proving that with the right mindset and tools, the world truly is an expansive oyster waiting to be explored. Football Behavior NewsletterNFL Predictions With Football BehaviorShaping the Basics w/ Kansas City Chiefs Lucas NiangPick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    Building Resilience: A Compassionate Approach to Treating Emotional Adversity

    Send us Fan MailIn this episode,  David Roth and I emphasize the critical need for the field of behavior analysis to delve deeper into the concept of resilience. While the concept of resilience is widely acknowledged, there's a gap in our understanding of it. It's our goal to ignite a conversation and inspire action on the pressing issue of defining and analyzing resilience. Today's discussion is driven by compassion and our personal experiences that have served as a catalyst to encourage this exploration.Additional Resources:Estes and Skinner PaperGavoni and Polk PaperPick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    The Art and Science of Navigating a Struggling Relationship: Insights from Relationship Expert Lee Wilson

    Send us Fan MailEver been dumped? Remember that pain? Being broken up with is something that most people experience at some point in their life.  Many learn and continue to move forward. But for some, it's a painful experience they try to avoid but end up living many times over.  If you are one of those people, what might you have done more, less, or differently to avoid the breakup? Perhaps you wanted to get back together, but it didn't work out. Or maybe feelings are fading while emotional outbursts are increasing in your current relationship, and you'd like to learn some tips for improving it.  In this episode, I unpack the science behind human relationships with New York Times featured relationship coach expert, Lee Wilson. In our conversation we discuss a number of relationship dynamics, offering an in-depth look at what he calls the "no contact rule," the power of self-reflection, and the role of support in relationships. Lee and I take a closer look at the concept of limerence, its role in driving us towards intimate relationships, and the dangerous consequences of imbalanced relationships. We tackle strategies to strike a healthy balance, alongside analyzing the impact of no contact in breakups, and then touch upon navigating changes in relationships and the importance of renegotiation to maintain a healthy connection. Finally, we weave our way through the complexities of interpersonal dynamics, with Lee providing real-world solutions grounded in solid behavioral principles. Coach Lee's Article on Limerence  Why feelings fade Coach Lee's YouTube Channel   Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    Exploring the Dynamics of Addressing Behavior Challenges in Schools with Dr. Merrill Winston

    Send us Fan MailDive headfirst into the intriguing world of behavior analysis with my good friend, Dr. Merrill Winston. In this fascinating discussion, we challenge the norms of traditional functional analysis in education, shedding light on the holistic aspects of behavior challenges. Anchored in the teachings of field pioneers like Brian Iwata and Hank Pennypacker, our conversation unearths the need for a deeper understanding and more probing questions about behavior.We delve into the issue of extreme reactions stemming from the aversive stimuli of everyday life. How can we better manage these situations? How can aversives build resilience and help achieve goals? Dr. Winston expertly guides us through these complex waters, highlighting the dynamic nature of behavior problems and the impact of varying reinforcement types from adults and peers.We also touch on the essential role of behavior analysts in successful outcomes and the quest for meaningful behavior change. As we wade through the challenges of inclusion, we take a hard look at an ecological approach to behavior problems. We examine issues around curriculum, teaching, and repertoire problems, along with the complexities of punishment. We wrap up with practical tips on managing conflicts and maintaining balance in meetings. If you'd like to find out more about Dr. Winston or connect with him, check out his website, Winston Behavioral SolutionsAlso, be sure to check out the Stone Soup Conference. Dr. Winston, Anika Costa, and a stellar lineup of behavior analysts will be presenting on a range of topics!And finally, if you are a behavioral consultant in school districts and you find yourself struggling with making a positive difference, check out The Behavioral Toolbox, the first online course of its kind that's bringing Organizational Behavior Management to behavioral consulting in education!Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    Creating Equitable Workplaces: The Role of Behavioral Science and Humane Leadership with Portia James

    Send us Fan MailWhat does it mean to create healthier, equitable workplaces? How does behavioral science play a key role in this transformation? Join us as we welcome the insightful Portia James to answer these questions. Portia, a prominent leader in the field of behavior analysis, shares her experiences and passion for constructing fair workforces where people feel valued. She sheds light on the rapidly evolving industry, underlining the escalating demands and complexities of leadership.Embark with us on Portia's personal odyssey as she navigates the challenges of leading in a domain that often prioritizes corporate power, money, and titles over human-centric approaches. Journey with us through the intricate world of entrepreneurship and leadership, where Portia emphasizes on the necessity for decision-making prowess and perspective-taking. We delve into the science of behavior analysis as the very DNA of leadership, stressing on the alignment of values and behaviors. As leaders, we must ensure accountability and resist the temptation to get overly absorbed in daily business trivialities.In our concluding act, Portia and I focus on the essential subject of feedback and perspective in leadership. We scrutinize the dangerous notion of 'selling your soul' and how it cannibalizes a person's essence over time. Portia highlights the essence of humility in leadership and the need for feedback, both from industry veterans and team members within our organization. We wrap up with Portia sharing her insights on using social media effectively for communication and fostering engaging conversations. Tune in for an enlightening discussion on the significance of vision, integrity, and humility in leadership.Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    Niche + Passion + Science: Crafting Your Unique Journey in Applied Behavior Analysis with Dr. Antonio Harrison

    Send us Fan MailHey there, fellow behavior analysts and seekers of knowledge! Get ready to dive into an eye-opening episode with Dr. Antonio Harrison, a true maverick in the field of applied behavior analysis (ABA). And guess what? We're not just sticking to the ordinary.Sure, ABA is like a superhero when it comes to helping those on the autism spectrum, but in this chat, we're blowing the lid off its potential. But hold on, that's not all. Ever wondered how to blend your niche with your passions and craft your own ABA path? Dr. Harrison and I spill the beans on exactly that. Tune in to find out how to explore how to leverage your passion and unleash your potential through the magic of ABA.Link to Antonio's letter discussed in the episodeLink to Antonio's websitePick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    Trauma Informed Care: Some ThingsYou Should Know

    Send us Fan MailFrom a behavior analytic perspective, trauma can be seen as an aversive event or series of events that have led to maladaptive behavior patterns or reactions to certain stimuli.  When we understand that an individual's behaviors might be a response to trauma, we can respond more effectively. But how can we better understand trauma? And what constitutes effective responses from a behavior analytic lens? In this episode, I gathered accomplished behavior analysts Steve Ward, Dr. Adithyan "Dithu" Rajaraman, Dr. Jennifer Austin, and David Roth to dig into a number of questions as a call for nuance on the topic. AN IMPORTANT AND PERSONAL NOTE ON THIS EPISODE:I believe there are a number of very good and compassionate behavior analysts who feel one way or another about the concept and approaches associated with TIC. Unfortunately, in some cases, it's led to a classification of behaviors that might be labeled "cancel culture." This is an important topic, and engaging in these types of cancel culture behaviors can create defensiveness and division as opposed to open dialogue and learning. In addition, it tends to punish philosophical doubt, a fundamental underpinning of science.Using coercion to drive a point home, even if it's a good point, too often leads to counter-control, which usually makes things worse. Let's make a stand on our points, but do so respectfully and in a way that keeps the conversation going. I was grateful to learn from these brilliant and compassionate behavior analysts.. #walkthetalkLinks:1) Trauma-Informed Care, Assent, and Compassion - A Call for Nuance in ABA2.) An Intellectually Honest Discussion about Punishment and CESS3.) Assent and Compliance - When to Use Which4.) Punishment on Trial in Behavior Analysis5.)Trauma-Informed Care, Assent, and Compassion - A Call for Nuance in ABA6.) Towards Trauma-Informed Applications of Behavior Analysis: Inside JABA SeriesPick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    Using ABA to Improve Sleep Performance and Organizational Outcomes with Dr. Emily Ice

    Send us Fan MailAs an entrepreneurial Behavior Analyst, Dr. Emily Ice  has participated in founding organizations within the non-profit and profit sectors for over two decades. Additionally, she has expertise in consultation and mentorship with applying Applied Behavior Analysis for the treatment of sleep disturbances.In this chat we discuss behavioral approaches for improving sleep; in addition, cover key principles for improving the performance and sustainability of behavior analytic organizations.Dr. Ice’s consultation link: stepinautism.com/sleepHere is a great overview of behavior analytic research provided by Dr. Ice Luiselli, J. K. (2021). Applied behavior analysis measurement, assessment, and treatment of sleep and sleep‐related problems. Journal of Applied Behavior Analysis, 54(2), 654-667. (link: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/James-Luiselli-2/publication/351117293_Applied_behavior_analysis_measurement_assessment_and_treatment_of_sleep_and_sleep-related_problems/links/60885e34907dcf667bcac1b4/Applied-behavior-analysis-measurement-assessment-and-treatment-of-sleep-and-sleep-related-problems.pdf) *Check out his reference list and deep dive into some of the great articles out there exploring this realm!Dr. Ice is on the public outreach committee for the Society of Behavioral Sleep Medicine (SBSM). The SBSM is an interdisciplinary organization committed to advancing the scientific approach to studying the behavioral, psychological, and physiological dimensions of sleep and sleep disorders and the application of this knowledge to the betterment of individuals and societies worldwide. (link: https://www.behavioralsleep.org/)There is also a Facebook group to connect with other behavior analysts interested in sleep-related behaviors: (link: https://www.facebook.com/groups/403669074259028) Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    Following Your Passion, Defining Success, and Leveraging Business Intelligence with Dr. Nick Green

    Send us Fan MailIn the episode, Dr. Nick Green and I dive into issues related to finding the right career, determining what success is, and effectively using data to improve and sustain organizational success. Email Nick: [email protected] him on LinkedIn: Nick on LinkedInBehaviorfit Website https://www.behaviorfit.comLearn about Business Intelligence: https://behaviorfit.com/business-intelligence/Follow BehaviorFit on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/behaviorfit/Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    Behavior Analysis and Leadership: A Primer for BABA Con 2023

    Send us Fan MailIn this episode, Dr. Bruce Tinor and I talk shop about leadership in schools and organizations. We will be presenting on leadership in education at the sold-out BABACon 2023.Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    RESULTS: Science-based approaches to better productivity, profitability, and safety with Dr. John Austin

    Send us Fan MailAchieving results in any organization requires behavior. But too often, leaders do not know how to get critical behavior going and keep it moving to achieve desired outcomes. In this episode, Dr. John Austin lays out key approaches for reaching results using practical behavior science.If you are interested in getting a copy of Dr.  Austin's book RESULTS: The science-based approach to better productivity, profitability, and safety, it will be available starting May 25 at ABAi and on Amazon.If you would like a free audiobook version,  click here! Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    Punishment on Trial in Behavior Analysis

    Send us Fan MailThere have been a lot of concerns about the use of punishment regarding the appropriateness and effectiveness of it as a behavior-change tool. And rightfully so, as the use of punishment can have a number of unintended side effects like emotional distress, retaliation, R- of undesired behaviors, the suppression of other adaptive behaviors, and more. In addition, the use of punishment raises questions related to individual rights, autonomy, consent, and assent.Given the dangers inherent in punishment, is it avoidable? In other words, is it possible to live in a society where there is no punishment? Or are some forms of punishment acceptable to use sometimes? If so, what kind of punishment and when? And how can we design punishment procedures to ensure they are ethical?In this episode, Steve Ward, David Roth, and I tackle the controversial topic as we try to answer these questions and more! Show Notes:Articles: Assent & Trauma Informed Care: A Call for Nuance in Behavior Analysis Dr. Carbone Article Podcasts: Trauma-Informed Care, Assent, and Compassion - A Call for Nuance in ABAAssent and Compliance - When to Use Which with Steve WardAn Intellectually Honest Discussion about Punishment and CESSSteve Ward:Whole Child ConsultingDavid Roth:LinkedIn ProfilePick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    Trauma-Informed Care, Assent, and Compassion - A Call for Nuance in ABA

    Send us Fan MailIn his book Beyond Freedom and Dignity, Skinner (1971) reminds us that “culture is the social environment that shapes and maintains the behavior of those who live in it. A given culture evolves as new practices arise, possibly for irrelevant reasons, and are selected by their contribution to the strength of the culture as it “competes” with the physical environment and with other cultures.”Now, we (Steve Ward and I) mention the term culture because there are words in our culture that have strong connotations and evoke conditioned emotional responses, bias, and bias confirmation as people tend to unknowingly search out data and surround themselves with other people who reinforce their bias.  Words that are common yet evoke strong emotional responses from those both outside and inside of our field like:• Positive, negative, consequence, manipulate, control, and punishment• Assent, trauma-informed, and compassionIn other sciences, this may not be an issue. But when you begin talking about behavior and using any one or combination of the words above, people, including behavior analysts, are going to fall back on their extensive learning history, which may or may not be directly related to the science of human behavior.  Those newer to the field may have a stronger emotional response than veterans who have, over time, been conditioned to respond differently. Still, many responses, in both cases, might fall into a classification of behaviors that might be considered rule-governed behavior. And while rule-governed behavior may serve a general set of circumstances that meet our personal and shared values, it can also lack nuanced and functional sophistication to produce socially valid outcomes for those we serve.  When we exceedingly follow rules, we sacrifice empiricism. We become less likely to recognize when an intervention is not working.  This, of course, preempts analysis. There is no impetus for problem-solving if a problem is not identified.  We can’t begin to analyze why an intervention is not working if we don’t realize that it is not working.In the episode, Steve Ward, Kayla Perry, and Dr. Merrill Winston take a deep dive into the concepts of assent, trauma-informed care, and compassion; moreover, they illuminate current challenges within the field of behavior analysis as they relate to the exceedingly broad use of terms like these that lack nuance and seemingly promote rule-governance. NOTES:Article by Steve and Paulie referenced in the podcastSteve Ward:Whole Child ConsultingKayla Perry:Honestly UnorthodoxMerrill Winston:Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    Assent and Compliance - When to Use Which with Steve Ward

    Send us Fan MailThe concept of assent has garnered a lot of attention in recent years.  And rightfully so.  Engaging learners in their treatment is extremely important.  Like you, they don't want things done "to" them but done "with" them.  Behavior Analysts recognize they have assent when a learner verbally or non-verbally agrees to participate in treatment. But is assent ALWAYS needed?  Are there conditions where compliance is necessary?  In this episode, veteran behavior analyst, Steve Ward, takes a deep and sometimes humorous dive into the concepts of assent and compliance.  If you are interested in Steve's work, be sure to pick up a copy of one of his books on Amazon.  Here is a link to one that will get you going!Also, if you are interested in Steve's services, click here for more information.Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    Examining Organizational Justice through a Behavior Analytic Lens with Rob Scalise

    Send us Fan MailOrganizational Justice refers to employee perceptions of fairness in the workplace.  But while the concept has been around for close to four decades, can it be explained behaviorally, and is the research sound?  In this episode, Behavior Analyst Rob Scalise takes a look at the concept of Organizational Justice through a Behavior Analytic lens.  Show notes:Rob's organization, villiv, is always looking for content creators for The Wider Path. Email Rob Scalise if you have behavior analysis skills and want to challenge yourself to present your ideas to a general audience.Rob's email: [email protected] co-Author of Rob's paper on Organizational Justice is Dr. Kirk Silvernail, UNLVCorrection: In this episode, Rob discussed three seminal papers with 20,000 citations.  The correct number of citations is 22,000 plus.Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    Reaching Results through Behavioral Leadership with Dr. John Austin

    Send us Fan MailIn this episode, Dr. John Austin and I talk behavior science, leadership, and practical approaches for improving climate, culture, and reaching results.  Dr. Austin is an internationally recognized expert in providing behavior-based solutions to organizational challenges. He is the founder of Reaching Results, a consultancy for management, motivation, leadership, and safety.   Dr. Austin was a Professor of Psychology at Western Michigan University. He has consulted with organizations for 20 years to improve productivity and safety in various industries. In addition, in the area of improving human performance, he has published nearly 100 articles and chapters, and delivered over 200 presentations at regional, national, and international conferences. He has published three books, Organizational Change, Handbook of Applied Behavior Analysis, and Mindfulness at Work. Show Notes References:When They Win, You Win: Being a Great Manager Is Simpler Than You ThinkDr. Austin's new website for ABA leadersDr. Austin's website for professionals interested in improving safetyInfo on Dr. Austin's courses and services is on both sites.Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    You can't find leadership in a book: Reflections of a leader with Leigh Martin

    Send us Fan MailSome people talk the leadership talk.  But when you lift the hood, there is misalignment with their say-do as they aren't walking the walk.  In this episode, I interview my best friend of almost 50 years, Leigh Martin.  Leigh and I lived, traveled, struggled, partied, and even fought together (stories for another episode!).  An authentic leader and individual with high values, Leigh walks the talk. He understands that leadership is not about title or degree.  A master of storytelling to illustrate important points, Leigh provides several lessons that can help any leader, anywhere. Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    An Intellectually Honest Discussion about Punishment and CESS

    Send us Fan MailIn the episode, David Roth and I tackle the very controversial and sensitive topic of punishment and CESS.  It is broken down into 3 sections: pre-show monologue, full episode, and post-show discussion about the ABC video that highlighted the unethical use of CESS at the Judge Rotenberg Center.   Please listen to the episode in its entirety as we spiral back to key points throughout.  Opting to listen to just one section would be like reading a book, but starting with a chapter midway through!  We encourage respectful and solution-oriented dialogue in the comments sections wherever this is posted. Show notes:Link to Cicoria Podcast Session 10 with Pat FrimanLink to David Roth’s Mindfulness talk at the Verbal Behavior Conference 2022 (PDF) On Mindfulness: A Skinnerian Account(PDF) Skinnerian Reflections on Meditation, Mindfulness, and the Term "Skinnerian"(PDF) Two Definitions of PunishmentABC Video on CESSPick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    This Guy Challenged Me on LinkedIn: Here is What Happened

    Send us Fan MailIf you follow me, you are likely aware that I make numerous posts.  Now, 99.9% of the time I receive positive feedback on them.  But somebody might take issue with a post every once in a while, which is OK because I'm not perfect, and everybody has their opinion.  And that's just what happened last week when I was accused of being "myopic" and "grandstanding" in relation to a post I made about Elon Musk and leadership.  Rather than debate online, I thought I would go ahead and invite this individual onto the podcast so we could get to the heart of the matter. Now, this is usually a way to NOT get on to one of my podcasts!   The only reason I invited this guest on and posted it is because I thought the outcome might be helpful in some way for some of my listeners. Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    7 Tips for Delivering Tough Feedback

    Send us Fan MailPoor performance happens.  Sometimes it might be related to skill, and other times, will.  Even in the greatest organization, people are bound to make mistakes.  When this happens, feedback must be provided to get performance back on track.  Unfortunately, people tend to avoid providing this type of feedback as it is often aversive to them and the recipient. But it doesn't have to be. In this episode, I offer you 7 tips for delivering feedback that helps performance, not hurts. By the way, if you like this episode, consider picking up a copy of The 5 Scientific Laws of Life & Leadership: Behavioral Karma.  It's available in hardback, paperback, Kindle, and Audible!Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    Want to Improve your Relationship? Try these 3 Tips Grounded in Practical Behavior Science

    Send us Fan MailWant to develop, sustain, or repair any relationship? Some people seem to be engaged in happy relationships, the reciprocal nature of which might be described as magical as each person fulfills their significant other’s needs while simultaneously meeting their own.  Many people make earnest attempts at developing and maintaining these types of relationships.  And fail.  Unfortunately, this can result in severe and debilitating pain that can derail even the best of us.  But there’s good news. Successful relationships aren’t the result of magic.  They are the result of behavior.  Period, end of story. As behavior scientists, we understand that no successful relationship can be achieved without behavior.  It’s not luck, not genetics, not money, and not personality.  It’s simply…behavior!  And not just any behavior, but the right behavior. And you can engage in these behaviors while helping your significant other or those you value to do the same.Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    The Organizational Behavior Management of Skinner's Walden Two Community

    Send us Fan MailIn this episode, David Roth and Dr. Nic Weatherly chat about the principles of Skinner's  Walden Two as they relate to Organizational Behavior Management and the following four questions:Build a way of life in which people live together without quarreling, in a social climate of trust rather than suspicion, of love rather than jealousy, cooperation, rather than competition. (If we change the words "way of life" to "organization" and change the word "live" to "work," we get an important message about Skinner's message as it relates to OBM)Maintain that world with gentle but pervasive ethical sanctions rather than police or military force. (change "police or military force" to "aversive control")Reduce compulsive labor to a minimum by arranging the kinds of incentives under which people enjoy working.Regard no practice as immutable. Change and be ready to change again. Accept no eternal verity. Experiment.A couple of articles Dr. Weatherly discussed:https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/01608061.2021.1890664https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/01608061.2022.2029798A couple of Skinner Links discussed by David Roth :BF Skinner Foundation Community pageWalden Two Audiobook read by SkinnerPick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    Keep it Simple with Behavior Science

    Send us Fan MailI’d like to talk to you about one of the simplest yet most powerful approach for creating success. And in our personal or professional lives, the simpler things are, the better.   This approach has been instrumental in saving countless lives. It has also helped people and even the largest organizations achieve their most challenging goals.Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    Dr. Bruce Tinor on Experiencing and Analyzing Racism as a Behavior Scientist of Color

    Send us Fan MailIn this episode, Behavior Analyst  Dr. Bruce Tinor breaks down  then compares and contrasts racism from racist through a behavior analytic lens.  We also discuss systematic racism, being a black behavior analyst, and potential behavior analytic solutions for making a dent in issues associated with racism.  Links:Dr. Tinor's LinkedInThe Shame of American Education Video Black Applied Behavior Analysis The Behavioral Observations PodcastDr. Merrill WinstonAnika CostaThe Behavioral Karma PodcastDavid RothPick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    The Shame of American Education and the Approach for Accelerating Student Achievement from 2 to 8 times Faster

    Send us Fan MailDid you know there is an instructional approach that can accelerate student learning from 2 to 8 times faster than current instructional approaches?  Check out this episode to learn more about the largest research that was ever conducted in education to find out what this approach is, and why it's not being used everywhere.  Below are some links related to the content discussed in this episode.The Shame of American EducationProject Follow ThroughMorningside AcademyCABASPick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    The Tone of your Texts & Emails - Is it Hurting or Helping? What You NEED to Know

    Send us Fan MailCommunication is very complex. Even the slightest change in tone, volume, or cadence  can alter the communicative intent as experienced by the listener.   In this episode I discuss what you should be aware of, and what you can do instead. Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    Overcoming Internal Obstacles like Fear & Anxiety

    Send us Fan MailStruggling with internal obstacles like fear and anxiety?  Well, you aren't alone.  Unfortunately, most of us have not been properly equipped with the tools for overcoming these obstacles.  This leads us to engage in behaviors that actually make things worse.  Check out this episode for practical tips rooted in behavior science for overcoming obstacles, living a more valued life, and achieving value driven goals. Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    The Amazing Power of Questioning as a Motivational Tool

    Send us Fan MailThere are lots of well meaning people who give instructions and advice as a means of helping people; unfortunately their "telling" behavior falls far short of the desired result.  Why is this?  Because their "telling" behavior, regardless of how it is delivered, can actually be de-motivating and lead to a number of other issues. If you've already subscribed to this podcast, be sure to subscribe to my Heart & Science YouTube Channel for more content grounded in the science of human behavior for better helping yourself and others!If you want to join the fight against Opioid and drug addiction, go to opioidawarenessfoundation.com and donate today.Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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    Positional Authority Ain't Leadership: A Good Job Title Doesn't Equate to Good Leadership

    Send us Fan MailIf you are tired of people in leadership positions engaging in behaviors that leave you frustrated, downtrodden, and otherwise make you want to leave your current position, then this episode is definitely for you.  And if you are in a leadership position and struggling with retention, this episode also might be for you, too!Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others. 

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

The Heart & Science of Leadership" podcast, co-hosted by Dr. Paulie and A.J. Rinaldi, combines their diverse backgrounds in leadership to offer a comprehensive view on what it takes to lead effectively, no matter your position—be it executive, teacher, manager, principal, supervisor, or coach. Together, they explore the balance between the human side of leadership and evidence-based practices, providing listeners with practical tools, real-life stories, and actionable strategies. Whether you're a seasoned leader or just starting your journey, this podcast delivers valuable insights that blend heart and science for impactful leadership in any setting.

HOSTED BY

Dr. Paul "Paulie" Gavoni

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