The Outside Crowd

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The Outside Crowd

🌳 Welcome to ”The Outside Crowd” 🌲Join JB, a seasoned professional in quantity surveying and business management, as he guides you through the dynamic world of outdoor professions.Meet our regular panel:🍃 Billy Gordon: Tree Surgeon and Owner of William Gordon Countryside ServicesExplore the secrets of tree surgery with arborist Billy Gordon, who brings a wealth of experience and insights to the table.🌿 Jake Fairweather: Decking Specialist and Owner of Fairdeck LtdBe inspired by visionary decking expert Jake Fairweather as he transforms outdoor spaces into captivating decks.🌺 Ryan Murphy: Director and Owner of Royal Tunbridge Wells LandscapesUnlock the secrets of extraordinary outdoor havens with skilled landscape architect Ryan Murphy.Whether you’re a tree surgeon, decking enthusiast, or a small business owner navigating the great outdoors, ”The Outside Crowd” is your go-to podcast for inspiration and entertainment.🎧 Tune in every fortnight on Thursdays to join JB and our exp

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    How Outdoor Workers Can Stay Strong, Lean & Injury-Free with Louise Pettafor 💪

    JB and Ryan are joined by Louise Pettafor — a fat loss specialist helping people work with their bodies, not against them. This episode is for anyone grafting day in, day out. If you’re working outdoors, feeling run down, picking up injuries, or constantly knackered, this one’s for you. They break down simple, practical ways to fuel your body properly — from protein intake and recovery to avoiding burnout and staying strong on the job. No fluff, just real advice you can actually use.   Find Louise here - https://thefemalefatlosscoach.com/  

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    Built for the Graft: Supplements and Luxury Furniture with Max Lewin & Cameron Edwards 🏋️‍♂️🪚🏋️‍♂️🪚

    In this episode, Billy and Ryan sit down with Max Lewin and Cameron Edwards to talk about building two very different businesses — LEVEL, a supplement brand designed for people who work hard, and London Furniture Studio, a bespoke joinery company specialising in high-end residential and commercial interiors. They get into the mindset behind both, balancing fitness and business, and what it really takes to build something from the ground up. 💪🪵🎙️   Level - https://my-level.co.uk/ London Furniture Studio - https://www.londonfurniturestudio.com

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    Lessons We Learned the Hard Way 📚

    In this episode, Billy and Ryan sit down for an honest conversation about the lessons they’ve learned the hard way over the past 5–6 years in business. From early mistakes and missed opportunities to the things they wish they knew starting out, this one’s all about real experience and practical advice. If you’re building something of your own, there’s a lot to take from this 🎙️📚  

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    Inside the World of Historic & Organic Gardens with Josh Taylor 🌿

    In this episode, JB and Ryan are joined by Ryan’s team leader Rabbit and special guest Josh Taylor, a garden consultant and designer with years of experience working in prestigious and historic gardens. The lads talk about Josh’s journey in horticulture, his work restoring and managing gardens, and what it really takes to create and maintain beautiful outdoor spaces. A great conversation for anyone interested in landscaping, gardening and the craft behind it. 🌿🎙️   Find Josh Taylor here: https://www.taylorsorganicgardening.co.uk/

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    The Boys Behind the Mic 👀🎙️

    In this episode, JB, Billy and Ryan take it back a step and open up a bit more about who they are outside of the business and the podcast. From personal life to the journeys that shaped them, it’s a deeper look at the lads behind the mic. If you’ve been listening for a while, this one gives you the full picture 🎙️

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    Hiring Your First Admin: What It Costs & Why It Pays Off 💼📈

    JB and Billy break down why hiring an admin assistant is the first real investment most founders avoid — what it actually costs, when to do it, and why it pays for itself faster than you think. If you’re drowning in tasks, this one’s for you.

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    Lessons You Only Learn From Losing 📉➡️📈

    Failure isn’t the opposite of success — it’s the tool. Billy & JB break down the losses, the lessons, and how mistakes became leverage. If you’re building anything, this one’s for you.

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    Bringing It Home: Lessons From Working Abroad with Mikey Grimes ✈️🇦🇺

    Ryan and Billy sit down with Mikey Grimes to talk about his journey working in Australia for 4–5 years and what it was really like coming back to the UK to start his own landscaping business, Grandscapes. An honest chat about starting again, backing yourself, and building something from the ground up. A great listen if you’re thinking about taking the leap or learning from someone who’s done it. 🎙️   Follow Grandscapes on Instagram @Grandscapes_Kent

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    Taking Stock: Where We’re At After a Big Year 📅 📊

    We’re back — all three of us 🎙️ The first episode of the new year sees the lads back together, catching up on where we’re at, how the year’s started, and what’s ahead. A proper reset and an honest chat to kick things off. Hit play and let us know what you think 🎧

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    The Christmas Special: Parties, Pints & Running a Business 🎄

    It’s our first ever Christmas special! 🎄🎙️ JB, Ryan & Billy get festive as they chat about Christmas parties, end-of-year chaos, and the realities of running a business over the holidays. Packed with laughs, honest reflections, and a proper look at life in the trade this time of year. Out now on all platforms — don’t miss it! 🎧✨

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    What It Really Takes to Go Full-Time in Photography with Rob Curd 📸

    Ever thought about turning your camera skills into a full-time career? 📸🚀 This week we sit down with Rob Curd from Got The Shot Media to talk about how he went from shooting as a passion to building a thriving media business. From taking the leap, to finding clients, to the reality behind the highlights — Rob breaks it all down. Whether you’re in the creative world or just love a good story about backing yourself, this one’s a must-listen. 🎙️✨   To get in contact with Rob go to https://gottheshot.co.uk/

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    Buying Out a Partner & Starting Again with Daniel Watson 💼🌲🔄

    Billy and Ryan are joined this week by guest Daniel Watson as we dive into Buying Out a Partner & Starting Again. From taking over a tree surgery business to rebranding and rebuilding, Dan shares the full story.   Find Watson Tree Services LTD here - https://watsontrees.co.uk/about-us/

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    What It’s Really Like to Cycle Around the World with Phil Clarke 🌍🚴‍♂️

    This week we’re joined by Phil Clarke — a man who cycled around the world. 🌍🚴‍♂️ Phil shares what it was really like to travel across continents on two wheels — the highs, the lows, the mindset, and the moments that changed him along the way. An honest chat about challenge, adventure, and perspective.   If you'd like to find out more, check out his blog here - https://aclarkeadventure.com/

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    The Truth About Running a Garden Business with Ollie Taylor 🌳💡

    In this episode, we sit down with Ollie Taylor from Stone Cottage Garden Care to talk about the reality of running a garden care business — from the physical graft to the business decisions most people never see.   Find them here - https://www.stonecottagegardencare.co.uk/

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    Reflections from the Job Site 👷‍♂️

    In this episode, Billy and Ryan sit down for an honest chat about the lessons they’ve learnt on the job — from running teams to handling setbacks, and everything in between. Real talk from the job site.

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    Roots, Risks & Rewards: Life as a Tree Surgeon with Ivan Carson 🌳

    This week we’re joined by Ivan Carson from Penshurst Tree Surgery to dive into the world of tree surgery. From working at dizzying heights to managing risks on the ground, Ivan shares the realities, challenges and rewards of life as a tree surgeon.

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    Rogue Traders: Spotting the Red Flags 🚩

    JB and Ryan dive into the world of rogue traders – how to spot them, how to protect yourself, and the lessons every tradesperson can learn. From warning signs to real experiences, this episode is all about keeping your business and reputation safe.

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    Plastics in the Industry: Smart or Short-Sighted? 🌍

    This week on The Outside Crowd, JB and Ryan dive into the debate around plastics in the industry. From plastic grass to decking, they break down the pros and cons, weighing up convenience, cost, and sustainability. Is plastic the smart solution for modern living, or a short-sighted choice with long-term consequences? Tune in as the guys share their thoughts, experiences, and a few laughs along the way.

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    Metamorph Landscapes: Lawrence Martin on Transforming Outdoor Spaces 🌳🔄

    This week, JB and Ryan sit down with Lawrence Martin, founder of Metamorph Landscapes, to talk about the art—and the science—of transforming outdoor spaces into living, breathing works of beauty. With a background in horticulture and landscape design, Lawrence shares how his passion for nature and his entrepreneurial drive led to the creation of Metamorph Landscapes. From sustainable techniques to bold creative concepts, he reveals how he turns even the toughest sites into thriving, inspiring environments. Whether you’re a fellow trade professional or just love the idea of reimagining outdoor living, this episode will leave you with fresh ideas and a new appreciation for the possibilities of design. 🌱🎨 🌿 Work with Lawrence / Metamorph Landscapes 👉 Website: https://metamorphlandscapes.co.uk/ 📩 Email: [email protected] 📸 Instagram: @metamorph_landscapes  

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    Reimagining Gardens: The Creative Path of Cameron Trend 🌱✨

    This week, JB, Ryan, and Billy sit down with garden designer Cameron Trend—founder of Trend Designs—for a conversation that digs into the journey from hands-in-the-soil horticulture to high-end garden design. Cameron shares how his early days on a Kent vineyard and running a landscaping business shaped his approach to design, and how studying at the Inchbald School of Garden Design helped him turn creativity and sustainability into a professional practice. 🌱✏️ From sketchbooks to site plans, this episode explores what it takes to push the boundaries in modern garden design—and why thinking sustainably isn’t just good for the planet, but for business too.   To learn more about Cameron’s work or enquire about a project, visit: 👉 https://camerontrenddesign.co.uk/

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    Keeping It Tight: Smashing Project Deadlines 🔥⏱️

    Running over on jobs can cost time, money, and your reputation. In this episode, JB, Ryan and Billy break down the key ways to keep projects on track and wrap them up on time — from planning and communication to managing teams and staying ahead of delays. If you want smoother finishes and happier clients, this one’s for you.

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    When Staff Issues Heat Up 🔥👥

    Staff problems are never fun—but have you noticed they often come up at the same times each year? In this episode, the lads dive into the patterns behind team issues, how to spot them early, and what you can do to keep your crew steady through seasonal ups and downs. Whether you manage a team of two or twenty, this one's full of practical advice.

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    The Road Ahead: What’s Next for Us 📈💭

    In this episode, JB, Ryan, and Billy sit down to chat about the future — both for the podcast and their own businesses. From long-term goals to the challenges of growth, they break down what’s coming next, what they’re working towards, and how they’re planning to navigate the ever-changing landscape of business. Tune in for an honest, forward-thinking conversation about vision, direction, and staying focused on what matters.

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    Cash Flow Chaos: The Reality Check 📉

    JB, Billy, and Ryan get real about the brutal side of running a small business — that sinking moment when you check your bank account and wonder where all the money went. From unexpected expenses to cash flow confusion, the lads share honest stories from their own businesses and how they’ve learned to tackle the financial rollercoaster. A must-listen for anyone in the trenches.

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    Longer Days, Bigger Gains: Make Spring Work for You ☀️📈

    As the days get longer and the jobs start rolling in, JB and Ryan sit down to share their top spring business and landscaping tips. From managing the seasonal rush to making the most of brighter days, this episode is all about how to stay ahead and make spring work for you. Whether you're on the tools or running the show, there's plenty in here to help you grow.

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    Secrets Behind Stunning Gardens with Jack Kent 🌳✨

    This week, Ryan and JB sit down with Jack Kent from Garden Creations 🌿 to talk all things landscaping, business growth, and the realities of running a successful company. Jack shares his journey, lessons learned, and advice for anyone looking to turn their skills into a thriving business. Don’t miss it — tune in now! 🎧   Get in contact with garden creations today here https://gardencreationsltd.com/

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    What It Takes to Build a Million Pound Company 💡💷🚀

    Just JB on the mic today, diving deep into what it really takes to build a £1 million business. From mindset to strategy, growth to grit — this one’s packed with straight-talking advice and lessons learned along the way. If you're serious about scaling up, you won’t want to miss it. 💷🔥📈

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    Struggling for Leads? The Secret to a Bulletproof Sales Pipeline 🚀

    🚀 Struggling to generate leads and close deals? Your sales pipeline might be the problem! In this episode, we sit down with James and Sam Barker from Open Door Digital to uncover the secrets to fixing your pipeline and boosting lead generation. 💡 Learn how to: ✅ Identify where your sales process is leaking leads ✅ Optimize your digital marketing for real ROI ✅ Turn clicks into conversions and revenue Want to connect with James and Sam? Reach out to them here: https://opendoordigital.co.uk/ 🔗 #LeadGeneration #SalesPipeline #DigitalMarketing #MarketingROI

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    Surviving & Thriving in a Changing Economy 📈🏢💡

    In this episode, JB and Billy dive into the realities of the changing economy, discussing how the cost of living and shifting spending habits impact businesses. They share their insights on adapting to these challenges, making smart financial decisions, and keeping your business thriving in uncertain times. Tune in now! 💰📉📈

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    Understanding Your Role in the Company 💼🔑

    As a business grows, so does the role of the people running it. In this episode, Billy and JB sit down to discuss how responsibilities evolve over time and how adapting to change is crucial for success. They break down the challenges of stepping back from hands-on work, the importance of delegation, and how finding your place in a growing company can make or break its future. Whether you're running a small business or scaling up, this episode is packed with insights on leadership, decision-making, and long-term vision. Tune in now! 🎧💼

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    Inside Jacksons Fencing and the Future of the Industry 🛠️📈

    Billy and Ryan sit down with Leigh from Jacksons Fencing to chat about the company’s journey, the future of the industry, and what 2025 has in store. With JB away, the lads dive deep into business insights, quality craftsmanship, and why Jacksons Fencing stands out.   Jacksons Fencing - https://www.jacksons-fencing.co.uk/

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    Why a Clear Vision is Key to Business Success 🔑

    Having a clear vision is the foundation of any successful business! 👀🔑🚀 In this episode, JB, Billy, and Ryan sit down to discuss why vision matters, how it shapes decision-making, and how to stay on track toward your goals.

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    The Good, the Bad, and the Unexpected of Trade Shows 🎪📈

    Discover the highs, lows, and surprises of trade shows as JB, Billy, and Ryan share their experiences in the latest episode of The Outside Crowd. From unexpected connections to lessons learned, hear their thoughts on what trade exhibitions really bring to the table for professionals in the industry. Don't miss their tips, reflections, and behind-the-scenes insights! 🎧

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    The Art of Planting Design with Sally-Anne Rees 🌱🎨

    🎙️ The Art of Planting Design with Sally-Anne Rees 🌱🎨 This week, JB, Billy, and Ryan are joined by Sally-Anne Rees, an experienced gardener and horticulturist dedicated to creating sustainable planting that enhances its natural setting. With diplomas from RHS and the London College of Garden Design, plus experience at RHS Chelsea and Hampton Court, Sally shares her journey, insights on planting design, and her passion for connecting people through horticulture. Don't miss this inspiring episode—out now on all podcast platforms! 🌿🎧

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    How Winter Weather Shapes Our Work ❄️💼

    Bundle up and tune in! 🎙️ This week on The Outside Crowd, JB, Billy, and Ryan discuss the ups and downs of working in the cold during winter. From frosty mornings to seasonal challenges, they share how the chilly weather shapes their work. ❄️💼 Available now on all platforms—don’t miss it! ⛄🎧 #TheOutsideCrowd #WinterWork #PodcastEpisode

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    Why 2024 Was Our Best Year Yet 💪🎉

    Why 2024 Was Our Best Year Yet 💪🎉 — JB, Billy, and Ryan sit down to reflect on an incredible year, sharing their biggest wins and proudest moments. From milestones to lessons learned, this is one episode you don’t want to miss! Tune in now on all podcast platforms. 🎙️✨ #Podcast #2024Reflections #BigWins #TheOutsideCrowd

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    Landscaping Secrets to Maximise Property Value with Marc Johnson 🏡📈

    Join JB, Billy, Ryan, and our special guest Marc Johnson from KMJ Property as we uncover the secrets to boosting property value through expert landscaping! 🏡📈 From tree work to outdoor design, find out how the right touches can make a property more appealing—and more valuable.

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    The Joys and Challenges of Pets at Work 🐾

    JB’s got a new pup, and Ryan’s loyal companion Louis is always on-site keeping the crew in line 🐶✨! This episode’s all about the ups, the laughs, and the challenges of having pets on the job. Tune in to see what it’s really like working alongside our four-legged friends! 🐾🎧

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    Why Good Customer Service Makes or Breaks Your Business 💬👎

    In this episode, Billy goes off on a rant about a frustrating customer service experience, while Ryan and JB share their own thoughts on what makes or breaks a company's approach to customers. Listen in as they dive into the highs and lows of customer service and how it impacts your business. Don’t miss this one!

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    Turning Timber into Treasures with Tom Byrne 🌳🪚

    In this episode of The Outside Crowd, JB, Ryan, and Billy sit down with Tom Byrne, the creative force behind Rag and Byrne. Tom shares his journey from starting his own business to crafting bespoke oak furniture, from stunning dining tables to expanding into custom garden furniture. Tune in to hear how Tom's passion for woodworking turned into a successful venture and the unique challenges and rewards of building a business around high-quality craftsmanship.

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    Building the Dream Team 💼👥

    In this episode of The Outside Crowd, JB, Billy, and Ryan dive deeper into how they recruit, train, and build the ideal team to drive success. From spotting the right talent to shaping them into valuable assets, they share their insights on developing a strong workforce. Tune in for tips on finding the perfect fit for your team! 💼👥🌟 #TheOutsideCrowd #BusinessGrowth #TeamBuilding #Recruitment #Leadership

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    The Power of Training Fresh Talent for Success 🌱🎯

    In this episode, Billy and Ryan dive into the benefits of hiring young, inexperienced staff and how training them from the ground up can lead to long-term success. They share their experiences on the value of molding fresh talent and why it's sometimes better to build skills within your team rather than hire experienced professionals. Tune in for valuable insights on shaping the future of your business!

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    Growing Treadgold Garden Design with Jo Walker 🌱

    In this episode, Jo Walker shares her journey of starting Treadgold Garden Design, revealing the challenges and triumphs of building a garden design business from the ground up. Join host JB, along with Ryan and Billy, as they delve into Jo’s experiences and explore the art of creating stunning outdoor spaces. Tune in for inspiration and insights from a garden design visionary! 🌸🎙️ #TreadgoldGardenDesign #TheOutsideCrowd #GardenDesign

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    Keeping Your Finances in Check 📊✅

    💸 In this episode, JB, Ryan, and Billy dive into the essentials of managing finances in a business. From budgeting tips to their personal strategies for keeping everything on track, they share insights on how they handle the money side of things to keep their ventures thriving. Tune in to get some practical advice on staying financially savvy! 💼📈 #TheOutsideCrowd #BusinessFinance #EntrepreneurLife

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    Mastering the Entrepreneurial Mindset 💡

    🎙️ In this episode of The Outside Crowd, Billy, Ryan, and JB dive deep into the importance of mindset in running a business and achieving growth. Discover the mental strategies and attitudes that have helped them navigate the challenges of entrepreneurship and drive their businesses forward. Tune in now for invaluable insights! 💡💪📈 #TheOutsideCrowd #MindsetMatters #BusinessGrowth #EntrepreneurLife #TuneInNow

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    From Supply to Success with Oliver Corkery 🌟📦

    In this episode, JB, Billy, and Ryan sit down with Oliver Corkery from Corkers. Oliver shares the journey of growing Corkers, a local landscape supplies business with a family-run mission to find the best quality products and supply them at great prices. Tune in to hear insights on the business, the challenges, and the passion behind Corkers. Don’t miss this inspiring conversation about dedication, quality, and community in the landscaping industry.

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    Secrets to Launching a Thriving Outdoor Business 🌳

    In this episode of The Outside Crowd podcast, join Jake, Billy, and JB as they dive into the secrets of running a successful outdoor business. From landscaping and tree surgery to decking and more, they share valuable insights, practical tips, and personal experiences to help you thrive in the competitive outdoor industry. Whether you're just starting out or looking to elevate your business, this episode is packed with strategies to boost your success. Tune in now to learn from the experts and take your outdoor business to the next level! 🌿✨

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    Unveiling JB's Business Secrets 📈💡

    In this episode of The Outside Crowd, join Billy and Ryan as they dive deep into JB's business journey. From earning his degree to launching his own quantity surveying business, JB shares his experiences, challenges, and the secrets behind his success. Discover the highs and lows of his entrepreneurial path, and gain valuable insights into what it takes to build a thriving business. Whether you're a budding entrepreneur or a seasoned professional, this episode is packed with inspiration and practical advice. Tune in now to uncover JB's business secrets! 🎙️💼📈💡 #BusinessJourney #Entrepreneur #TheOutsideCrowd

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    The Importance of Insurance with Sophie Elford 🌳📋

    🌳🛡️ In this episode of The Outside Crowd, join Ryan and JB as they sit down with Sophie Elford to discuss the crucial role of insurance in protecting and securing your business. Sophie shares valuable insights on why having the right coverage is essential for peace of mind and business continuity. Tune in now to learn how to safeguard your outdoor business! 📋🌲

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    The Year So Far 📅

    In this episode of The Outside Crowd, JB, Billy, and Ryan come together to reflect on the year so far. From triumphs to challenges, they share insights and stories about how the year has been unfolding in the world of outdoor business. Tune in to hear about their experiences, the lessons learned, and what they anticipate for the rest of the year. Whether you're an industry professional or just curious about the outdoor trade, this episode is packed with valuable perspectives and engaging discussions. Listen now on all podcast platforms! 🎧✨ #TheOutsideCrowd #Podcast #YearInReview #OutdoorBusiness #TheYearSoFar 🌲🔨

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

🌳 Welcome to ”The Outside Crowd” 🌲Join JB, a seasoned professional in quantity surveying and business management, as he guides you through the dynamic world of outdoor professions.Meet our regular panel:🍃 Billy Gordon: Tree Surgeon and Owner of William Gordon Countryside ServicesExplore the secrets of tree surgery with arborist Billy Gordon, who brings a wealth of experience and insights to the table.🌿 Jake Fairweather: Decking Specialist and Owner of Fairdeck LtdBe inspired by visionary decking expert Jake Fairweather as he transforms outdoor spaces into captivating decks.🌺 Ryan Murphy: Director and Owner of Royal Tunbridge Wells LandscapesUnlock the secrets of extraordinary outdoor havens with skilled landscape architect Ryan Murphy.Whether you’re a tree surgeon, decking enthusiast, or a small business owner navigating the great outdoors, ”The Outside Crowd” is your go-to podcast for inspiration and entertainment.🎧 Tune in every fortnight on Thursdays to join JB and our exp

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