The Outside The Box Podcast

Feeling burned out in the classroom—even though you still love the work? In this episode, Ade shares five practical ways to reignite joy, connection, and creativity when teaching starts to feel heavy. From putting the phone down and stepping back into play, to taking your cohort beyond the fence line and introducing collaborative storytelling, these simple shifts can breathe fresh life into your days without overhauling your whole program. Whether you’re a founder, director, or teacher wearing all the hats, this episode is a reminder that burnout does not always mean it’s time to quit—sometimes it means something needs to shift. In this episode, we cover: How constant documentation may be draining your presence Why collaborative projects can reset group energy The power of changing your environment when routines feel stale How modeling restful connection impacts children and educators alike Why storytelling can transform confidence, creativity, and cohort dynamics What burnout may actually be trying to tell you as a leader If you’re in a season of depletion, this one is for you.

Running a nature- and play-based program comes with beautiful, meaningful work—but also incredibly hard, often invisible decisions. In this episode, we talk about what it really looks like to lead when things feel uncertain, emotional, and high-stakes. From questioning whether a family is the right fit mid-year, to navigating weather cancellations and running out of snow days, to holding firm to policies when your heart wants to bend—this is the side of leadership no one prepares you for. If you’ve ever found yourself second-guessing decisions, people-pleasing, or quietly holding the weight of your program alone, this episode will remind you that you’re not doing it wrong—you’re doing the real work of leadership.

Is play really rigorous? In this episode, Ade unpacks why play is not a break from learning—but the deepest, most demanding form of it. If you’re leading a nature- and play-based program and ever feel pressure to prove that “real learning” is happening, this conversation will reframe everything. We explore what rigor actually means, why adults struggle to trust play, and how protecting play transforms your leadership, confidence, and daily rhythms outdoors.

Show Notes & Links: Referenced in this episode: Episode 25: Three Steps to Launching Your Nature-Based Program from Scratch The Nature Play Blueprint: 4-Week Intensive Mentorship 1:1 Mentorship with Ade — individualized support for directors, founders, and facilitators Topics covered: Defining and refining your vision Creating systems that support your energy and growth The importance of mentorship and community Why sustainability is more than just funding Ideal for: Nature-based educators, directors, and founders looking to strengthen their foundation and prevent burnout.

🪶 Show Notes: In this episode, we cover: The 5 biggest misconceptions about nature and play-based programs How to respond when someone says, “It’s just play” Why academics thrive outdoors (and how to show parents that) The real difference between risk and danger How to make nature-based education more accessible and inclusive Why this approach isn’t a trend—it’s a return to how children have always learned Mentioned in this episode: The Nature Play Blueprint Intensive — 4 weeks of guided mentorship, 2 live calls, and unlimited voice/text support to help you lead your program with confidence. Mentorship Programs — personalized support for directors, founders, and educators growing their vision. 🔍 SEO Keywords: nature and play-based education, forest school myths, outdoor classroom, risky play, nature play programs, outdoor learning misconceptions, child-led learning, emergent curriculum, nature play pedagogy, play-based learning outdoors, nature education benefits, early childhood outdoor education Would you like me to make a short social media caption (Instag

🌿 Episode Overview In today’s episode, Ade breaks down a challenge every outdoor educator faces: big emotions in big spaces. While nature is calming, children still bring their full nervous systems outside—and dysregulation can feel even louder in the woods. Ade shares simple, research-backed strategies to help you support children with confidence while also protecting your own peace. You’ll learn why emotions often feel bigger outdoors, what mistakes even seasoned educators make, and the three-step rhythm that helps bring kids (and adults) back to center in wild, unstructured spaces. 🌲 What You’ll Learn Why outdoor environments can amplify big emotions The difference between harsh boundaries and clear boundaries in forest settings Three grounding strategies that work every time How to shrink the learning environment when a child is overwhelmed The power of narrating—not fixing—during emotional moments Common pitfalls that drain educators Why rhythms and routines matter more outdoors than anywhere else ✨ Key Takeaways You can’t co-regulate from a dysregulated nervous system—you go first. Freedom can be beautiful and overwhelming; shrinking the environment helps. Short, simple language reaches dysregulated kids best. Outdoor behavior challenges are normal—and often a sign children finally feel safe enough to release. You deserve systems and support that make this work sustainable. 🎧 Listen If You Are… A nature-based educator or forest school leader A classroom teacher transitioning to outdoor learning A founder of (or dreaming of building) your own nature- or play-based program Someone who wants clearer, calmer days with children outside 🧭 Mentioned in This Episode The Nature Play Blueprint — Ade’s signature mentorship for educators who want to build a sustainable, joy-filled outdoor program with strong rhythms, emotional support tools, and systems that actually work. A supportive path for teachers, assistants, directors, and program founders who don’t want to build their dream alone. 💛 Stay Connected If this episode encouraged you or gave you a strategy you can use this week, please share it with another outdoor educator. It helps more nature programs thrive—and helps others feel less alone in this work.

In this episode, Ade shares how to use nature itself as your curriculum—without rigid lesson plans or a canned program. You’ll learn why observation is the most powerful teaching tool, how child-led learning brings academic standards to life outdoors, and why trusting the seasons can give you a ready-made structure for your outdoor classroom. From the “living, breathing, larger-than-life water table” to storytelling and play around the fire circle, Ade unpacks practical ways to weave emergent curriculum, joy-centered education, and play-based learning into your daily rhythm. Whether you’re new to nature-based education or looking for fresh outdoor teaching strategies, this episode will help you feel more confident in creating unstructured play opportunities, connecting children to the natural world, and building a program shaped by place, purpose, and play. LINK: Become A Great Observer Course https://www.natureplayallday.org/offers/AJDmejJv/checkout

Episode Summary: Think creating an outdoor classroom has to cost thousands? Think again. In this episode, I’m sharing four practical and budget-friendly ways to design essential outdoor learning spaces—without draining your wallet. From community gathering spots to mud kitchens, art areas, and climbing spaces, you’ll walk away with clear, creative ideas for how to source materials, ask for donations, and make the most of what you already have. This episode is perfect for educators, childcare providers, and leaders who want to bring nature-based learning to life—even on a shoestring budget. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: How to set up a community/gathering space for free or cheap using secondhand seating and found materials. Ways to create a makerspace with tools, loose parts, and upcycled supplies that spark creativity. How to design a mud kitchen or play kitchen using old cookware, pallets, and donations. Affordable options for gross motor play spaces—from hammocks to climbing setups—without buying expensive equipment. Simple strategies for asking families and your community for support through donations, swaps, and “buy nothing” groups. Why Listen: If you’ve ever felt like budget is the biggest barrier to starting or expanding your outdoor classroom, this episode will give you the inspiration and practical steps to make it happen right now. Resources & Links: Connect with me on Instagram @natureplayallday Join my mentorship program: The Nature Play Blueprint (a 4-week intensive designed to help you create a thriving outdoor classroom with confidence and clarity). This program goes deeper into planning, routines, and communication strategies that make outdoor teaching sustainable—so you don’t have to figure it all out on your own. https://www.natureplayallday.org/nature-play-blueprint

Show Notes Recap Title: How to Talk to Parents About Risky Play—Without Apologizing In this episode: Why you need to ground yourself before talking to families Real language you can use to describe what risky play is and how you support it How to normalize nervousness and still stand your ground Simple strategies to communicate supervision and safety Ways to build trust without overexplaining or defending every choice Mentioned: Nature Play Blueprint Mentorship — 4-week mentorship for educators and program leaders who want to lead with clarity and joy, not fear.

Learn how to implement five simple rhythms to bring more flow, less stress, and more child-centered connection to your outdoor days. Perfect for educators feeling stuck, scattered, or just ready to create more ease in the day. In This Episode: How to structure your day without rigidity Why circle time might actually work long-term Anchoring transitions with real intention Protecting unstructured play time Creating closure that supports regulation Resources Mentioned: 🌿 Nature Play Blueprint Mentorship — A 4-week intensive mentorship for educators and program founders. Build strong rhythms and systems with full support. https://www.natureplayallday.org/nature-play-blueprint ⏰15 Minute Rule- How to gradually build in more time for uninterupted exploration and play.  https://www.natureplayallday.org/signup-3249d9ff-e126-4b5e-8329-87628aa2db8c  

If you’re dreaming about starting your own nature or play-based program—but feel overwhelmed about where to begin—you’re in the right place. Today, we’re breaking it down into three essential steps: building your support circle, navigating licensing, and securing your space. Plus, we’ll talk about the heart of it all—your why. Let’s ground your vision and get you moving, one step at a time.

Hidden under that mountain of laundry and dishes in the sink, buried within the catacombs of your to-do list - there's a message for future you. Walk with Ade as she shares how to move through seasons of overwhelm and give action steps on how to make your daily "grind" 5-10% more enjoyable. Hint: the little things are the big things. Tune into episode 24 for more details!

Nature and nutrition go together like pollinators and wildflowers. Walk with Ade as she shares her journey and discoveries in how taking a closer look at what and how she was fueling her body majorly shifted how she showed up in the space she shares with children in her forest classroom!

In this episode of The Outside The Box Podcast, we explore how optimizing energy isn’t just about food and movement—but also about sleep. After working with a nutritionist in preparation for USS Nationals, I discovered that despite doing everything “right,” my sleep was the missing piece. Join me as we dive into sleep cycles, daily habits, and how aligning our personal energy affects how we show up in the spaces we share with children. Plus, practical steps to investigate your own energy layers and make sustainable changes. Tune in and start building a more energized, present version of yourself—one layer at a time. UPDATE: Turns out that my percentages aren't too terrible! How about you? Use the link below to learn more about sleep cycles and how much time is recommended to be in each stage. More info on sleep stages and cycles: https://www.simplypsychology.org/sleep-stages.html

In this episode of The Outside The Box Podcast, we explore how nature’s seasonal rhythms can inspire us to rethink the traditional New Year's resolutions. Instead of setting goals in the depth of winter, we discuss why spring is the perfect time for new beginnings. Tune in to learn how aligning with nature’s cycles can bring balance, creativity, and renewal to both your personal growth and your work with children. Plus, practical tips on incorporating seasonal rhythms into classroom routines and home life.

Welcome back to Outside the Box! I’m your host, Ade Hofmann, and in this episode, we’re diving into the deeply personal journey of creating something from scratch—whether it’s a program, a project, or a vision for your life. The process is so much more than the end result. It’s messy, emotional, and full of unexpected beauty. Join me as we unpack what it means to build something meaningful, embrace the twists and turns, and find joy in the journey. Grab a warm drink, settle in, and let’s take this walk together. www.natureplayallday.org  Nature Play Blueprint 4 Week Intensive

In this episode, The Discipline of Freedom: How Structure Sets Us Free in Nature-Based Education, we explore the transformative power of routines and rhythms in outdoor learning. Discover how intentional structure creates safety and trust, empowering children to take risks, explore, and build meaningful connections with the natural world—and with the educators who guide them. Join us as we redefine discipline, not as control, but as the foundation for freedom and growth in nature-based education.   FREE DOWNLOAD: The 15 Minute Rule

Join Ade in this episode as she walks with you through the three components to building a classroom community that is rotted in authentic connection, understating, trust and respect. Practicing these methods will not only positively impact your cohort at large but also expand your practice as an educator/caregiver. 
Love this episode? Want to dig even DEEPER? Check out Ade’s newest virtual training: Observation & Documentation 101. Receive over half a dozen downloads to keep your documentation game on point and earn a certificate for 1.5 hours of professional development. Enroll today: https://www.natureplayallday.org/observation-documentation-101 


Join Ade in this episode as she shares her latest tips on how to manage your classroom set up without stress or overwhelm. She will walk you through the before and after of intentionally creating spaces that have the children’s experience in mind. Download the FREE Guide to Why Play Matters here: https://mailchi.mp/1e971e8a207d/9l9pim0nua and shop major deals on gear at The Outdoor School Shop by clicking here: https://outdoorschoolshop.com?aff=13

Join Ade as embraces vulnerability in this episode and walks through some hurtles she has faced as she creates a solid ground to build her future on. What limiting beliefs are holding you back? Don’t forget to download her Guide To Why Play Matters More here: https://mailchi.mp/1e971e8a207d/9l9pim0nua

Join Ade on this episode where she explores how to build guts, grit, personal power and get an edge on hard times. Walk with her as she connects her strength journey to her practices in the world of nature and play based education. Don’t forget to download the FREE Guide to Why Play Matters More Than Kindergarten Readiness here: https://mailchi.mp/1e971e8a207d/9l9pim0nua

Join Ade in this episode as she shares how she tackles the never ending to-do list as an entrepreneur, and program director. She shares with you some quick and tactical guidance that you can implement today! After this episode you will no longer be haunted by your personal to-do list. Don’t forget to download the free Guide to Why Play Matters MORE Than Kindergarten Readiness here: https://mailchi.mp/1e971e8a207d/9l9pim0nua

Join Ade as she chats about a spicy topic of how so many of us fear that our young children are falling behind in their education. Don’t forget to download the free Guide to Why Play Matters More Than Kindergarten Readiness here: https://mailchi.mp/1e971e8a207d/9l9pim0nua

Choosing gear for your child (and you) is no easy feat. Listen in as Ade shares a new tip on how to choose gear that WORKS. Don’t forget to download The Ultimate Gear Guide for FREE using this link: https://mailchi.mp/1db2ee74701f/the-ultimate-gear-guide-sign-up

Why is asking for help SO HARD?! Walk with Ade as she shares some insight as to why asking and accepting help can feel so challenging. Tune in for a little tough love and a whole lot of “so, it’s not just me” moments. Dont forget to download her FREE Guide to Why Play Matters More here: https://mailchi.mp/1e971e8a207d/9l9pim0nua

Join Ade as she explores the notion of silver linings and why they’re so powerful in her practice of moving the needle closer to the “goal”. Unpack ideas of perfectionism and readiness. Don’t forget to download her Why Play Matters MORE guide here: https://mailchi.mp/1e971e8a207d/9l9pim0nua

Ade shares a heartfelt message for all those who are working so hard to make way for change in early childhood. She invites you to share in her efforts of change by joining a free community (NPBC). Click here for the Why Play Matters freebie: https://mailchi.mp/1e971e8a207d/9l9pim0nua . Join the Nature and Play-Based Consortium for free here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1TXag1VhVXrojMB5Apwk2vRXDG6LpAwGlB9_fbu3bS2E/edit

Ade shares with you her top 5 spaces to be sure to incorporate into any outdoor learning environment. She shares stories of how these spaces have a deep and lasting impact on children’s development. Don’t forget to download Ade’s FREE Guide to Why Play Matters more here: https://mailchi.mp/1e971e8a207d/9l9pim0nua

Walk with Ade as she debunks the great myth of the beloved worksheet. Ade shares her experience in a variety of early learning environments and how it’s helped shape her philosophy that living is learning and that above all, play and learning are synonymous. Do you need more proof for those on the fencers and naysayers? Ade’s put together a list of 10 reasons why outdoor winter play is crucial to children’s growth and development. Download it out here: https://mailchi.mp/40ecc05f650e/3eobj8gf3t Need more? Download Ades Why Play Matters MORE multipage guide here: https://mailchi.mp/1e971e8a207d/9l9pim0nua

Join Ade as she chats about what’s really keeping educators and caregivers INSIDE rather than venturing out into nature. Having trouble navigating the vast world of outdoor gear? Download The Ultimate Gear Guide, your one stop shop to knowing what you need and why here: https://mailchi.mp/1db2ee74701f/the-ultimate-gear-guide-sign-up

Walk with Ade alone the Observation Continuum and learn where you are on your journey to becoming a Great Observer. Download this exercise below to practice with your staff.

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Join Ade as she explores the idea that gear is a vital piece of that beloved curriculum that so many of us cling to. Also hear about her two exclusive freebies she has created to help you gather gear with ease and major savings. Download your FREE guide to Why Play Matters MORE than Kindergarten readiness HERE: https://mailchi.mp/1e971e8a207d/9l9pim0nua Check out Ade’s Ultimate Gear Guide: https://mailchi.mp/1db2ee74701f/the-ultimate-gear-guide-sign-up More Gear Goodies: https://mailchi.mp/d71298bbaa16/top5wintergear

Ade shares the top three lessons she’s learned on her journey to founding a fully nature and play-based early childhood program. Download your FREE guide to Why Play Matters More than Kindergarten readiness here: https://mailchi.mp/1e971e8a207d/9l9pim0nua

Explore the idea of “seeing the fear and doing it anyway”. Walk with Ade as she shares her lessons learned from her first mentor, and how they apply to her work as a program founder. Download your FREE guide to Why Play Matters MORE than Kindergarten Readiness here: https://mailchi.mp/1e971e8a207d/9l9pim0nua

Becoming aware of the barriers that keep us from facilitating a truly play-based learning space. Grab your FREE Guide to why Play Matters More than Kindergarten readiness HERE! https://mailchi.mp/1e971e8a207d/9l9pim0nua