Theology Girls Podcast

Today we are sharing a conversation with pastor, professor, and author Matthew Kim about his new book “Becoming a Friendlier Church.” In this conversation, Matthew and Katy talk through why most churches perceive themselves as friendly even when that is not the felt experience of visitors, and how often minority groups have often been made to feel left out in church spaces. Matt discusses how pastors can also practice inclusivity in their preaching without compromising their values. Listen to our bonus episode with Matthew on Substack where we discuss multi-ethnic churches and being friendly out of necessity versus predominantly white churches putting up walls out of convenience and the theological implications that holds. Make sure you follow Matthew on Instagram @Matthew.d.kimPurchase a copy of “Becoming a Friendlier Church” by clicking here.Episode Sponsors:Kairos ClassroomKindred Photo Co. - tell her the Theology Girls sent you for 10% off your shootJoin our Summer Book Club by clicking here.Grab a ticket to our Theology Girls Bible Quiz Trivia night on June 12th for just $25 each by clicking here. Make sure you rate, review and subscribe to the podcast anywhere you listen and follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirls

Today we are sharing a recent conversation with author Dorothy Greco about her new book, “For the Love of Women: Uprooting and Healing Misogyny in America.” In this episode, Dorothy and Katy discuss what exactly misogyny is and how it shoes up across a variety of spheres, including the church, and what faith leaders can do about it.Listen to our bonus episode with Dorothy on Substack where we discuss misogyny in healthcare.Make sure you follow Dorothy on Instagram @dorothylgreco and also on Substack.Purchase a copy of “For the Love of Women” by clicking here.Episode Sponsors:SeminaryNow - use code TG30 to get 30% off your subscription Be A Heart - use code THETHEOLOGYGIRLS for 10% off your purchaseJoin our Summer Book Club by clicking here.Grab a ticket to our Theology Girls Bible Quiz Trivia night on June 12th for just $25 each by clicking here. Make sure you rate, review and subscribe to the podcast anywhere you listen and follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirls

Today we are sharing a conversation with friend of the podcast and upcoming author, Jessica LM Jenkins. Jessica and Katy discuss the Proverbs 31 woman, who she was and who she wasn’t. Jessica and Katy discuss how to read wisdom literature as a whole and also how pastors and ministry leaders can teach on the Proverbs 31 without shaming women. For more information on the Proverbs 31 woman, check out Jessica’s “Women of the Bible in Context” podcast.Make sure you follow Jessica on Instagram @jessicalmjenkins and also on Substack by clicking here.Episode Sponsors:Kindred Photo Co. - book a photo shoot and mention the Theology Girls to get 10% off your shootCrescent Oasis Counseling and CoachingJoin our Summer Book Club by clicking here.Grab a ticket to our Theology Girls Bible Quiz Trivia night on June 12th for just $25 each by clicking here. Make sure you rate, review and subscribe to the podcast anywhere you listen and follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirls

Today we are sharing a conversation with Christian marriage and sex expert, Sheila Gregoire. Sheila is known for her podcast Bare Marriage and the multitude of books she’s written on the subject, including The Great Sex Rescue, The Marriage You Want, She Deserves Better, and a Good Girls Guide to Sex (just to name a few). Sheila and Katy discuss all things purity culture and complementarian theology and why hierarchy is bad for women, sex, marriages, and the church. Make sure you stick around for our bonus episode on Substack with Sheila where we discuss how even soft complementarianism is harmful for women and where they miss the mark on supporting women.Click here to support Sheila, read more of her work and purchase her books.Stream the Bare Marriage podcast by clicking here. Check out Happily Never After - The Curious Case of Love and Respect series that is frequently referenced in this episode by clicking here.Episode Sponsors:Seminary Now - use our code TG30 at checkout to get 30% off your subscriptionShe Reads Truth - use code THETHEOLOGYGIRLS at checkout for 15% off your entire orderGrab a ticket to our Theology Girls Bible Quiz Trivia night on June 12th for just $25 each by clicking hereMake sure you rate, review and subscribe to the podcast anywhere you listen and follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirls

Today we are sharing a conversation with Biblical Scholar and president of The Center for Women in Leadership, Dr. Lynn Cohick. Lynn and Katy discuss all things women in the New Testament and Early Church, including why historical context matters when approaching Biblical stories, hidden figures in the writings of Paul, all the ways females have contributed to Christian thought and theology, and so much more. Make sure you stick around for our bonus episode with Lynn where we talk about common misconceptions regarding women in the New Testament available on Substack. Click here to support Lynn and read more of her work.Stream Lynn’s Alabaster Jar podcast by clicking here. Episode Sponsors:Seminary Now - use our code TG30 at checkout to get 30% off your subscriptionNinni Co. Pacifiers - use code THEOLOGYGIRL at checkout for 10% off your entire orderGrab a ticket to our Theology Girls Bible Quiz Trivia night on June 12th for just $25 each by clicking here. Make sure you rate, review and subscribe to the podcast anywhere you listen and follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirls

Today we are sharing a conversation with author and historian Daniel Hummel about his book “The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism.” Daniel not only defines dispensationalism but also discusses why he thinks this theology (which places a heavy emphasis on Israel and a physical rapture of the church) has made its way into American politics and why it’s appeal has begun to fade over the past decades, particularly with Gen Z and Millennial adults. Make sure you check out our bonus episode on Substack with Daniel where Katy asks him about how dispensationalism has caused a misunderstanding of the character and nature of God. Grab a copy of “The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism” by clicking here and support Daniel’s work by visiting his website www.danielghummel.comOther Resources:“Is Pete Hegseth Waging a Christian Zionist War?”Episode Sponsors:Seminary Now - use code TG30 at checkout for 30% off your subscriptionShe Reads Truth - Use our code THETHEOLOGYGIRLS for 15% off your entire orderApply to be a Theology Girls Cohort Leader by clicking here - applications close on 4/24Make sure you rate, review and subscribe to the podcast anywhere you listen and follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirls

Today we are sharing a conversation with author, Elizabeth Berget about her upcoming book, “Love Like a Mother: How the Sacred Work of Motherhood Reveals the Maternal Heart of God.” Elizabeth and Katy discuss what inspired her to write this book as well as the pressures placed on young moms to get it right and the misconception that God is male and how it may impact our theology negatively. Elizabeth also recounts the ways she experienced women and mothers particularly caring for the immigrant community in Minneapolis during the ICE raids this winter. You can pre-order “Love Like a Mother” anywhere books are sold or by clicking here and the book will officially release on May 5th. Follow Elizabeth on Instagram at @elizabeth.e.berget and on Substack by clicking here. Additional Resources:Try Softer: A Fresh Approach to Move Us out of Anxiety, Stress, and Survival Mode--and into a Life of Connection and Joy by Aundi KolberEpisode Sponsors:Crescent Oasis Counseling and CoachingNinni Co. Pacifiers - Use our code THEOLOGYGIRL for 10% off your entire orderMake sure you rate, review and subscribe to the podcast anywhere you listen and follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirls

Today we are sharing a conversation with Behold Coffee founder and owner, Rachael Steudeman. If you’re new to the podcast, check out episode 11 with Katy and Rachael as they discuss their friendship and reconciliation process. In this episode, you’ll hear how Behold Coffee went from a dream to reality in just a matter of months. Rachael also shares valuable tips for anyone hoping to start a business of their own, and how she plans to be a Christian business that actually engages culture and impacts the local community.You won’t want to miss our bonus Substack episode with Rachael where she and Katy discuss how the charismatic church often mishandles issues surrounding chronic illness, grief and infertility. Behold Coffee officially opens for business on 4/11 in Kimmswick, Missouri, just south of St. Louis. You can purchase coffee beans and have them shipped to your home anywhere in the United States by clicking here.Follow Behold Coffee @beholdcoffeecoAdditional Resources:Check out Cake House Designs by clicking hereCheck out Hosanna Revival by clicking hereCheck out Daily Grace Co. by clicking hereCheck out She Reads Truth by clicking here and use our code THETHEOLOGYGIRLS for 15% off your orderEpisode Sponsors:Seminary Now - Use code TG30 for 30% off your subscriptionMake sure you rate, review and subscribe to the podcast anywhere you listen and follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirls

Today, we’ve got a really important conversation to share with you featuring licensed psychologists and authors, Mark Yarhouse and Julia Sadusky to discuss their new book, “Emerging Sexual Identities”. In this conversation, Katy chats with Mark and Julia about all the new terminology being used by youth today to discuss their sexual and gender identities, the dangers of conversion therapy versus a more “values based” approach, as well as how the church can serve and love the LGBTQ community better.This episode will be particularly helpful for parents of school aged children and teenagers, as well as those working in youth and young adult ministry. Make sure you grab a copy of “Emerging Sexual Identities” for yourself by clicking here. Make sure you follow Julia at @drsadusky and Mark @dryarhouse on InstagramAdditional Resources:RevoiceEden InvitationBuilding Catholic FuturesEpisode Sponsors:Seminary Now - Use code TG30 for 30% off your subscriptionBe A Heart - Use code THETHEOLOGYGIRLS at checkout for 10% offMake sure you rate, review and subscribe to the podcast anywhere you listen and follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirls

Today on the podcast, we’re sharing a conversation with Missouri Baptist University Professor of Biblical Studies & Director of Christian Studies, Dr. Matt Easter about how the resurrection changes everything. Katy and Dr. Easter dive deep into the significance of the resurrection for those navigating despair, sickness, and aging, and also why it matters that women were the first to see the empty tomb and what that means for us today. Make sure you listen to our bonus episode available on Substack where Dr. Easter dives deeper into women at the empty tomb and the stories of female martyrs throughout church history. Check out Dr. Easter’s work at Missouri Baptist University by clicking here. Read Dr. Easter’s Time Magazine Article, “Why is Easter Always on a Sunday?” here.Read Women Who Do: Female Disciples in the Gospels by Holly J. CaryRead The Resurrection of the Song of God by N.T WrightRead Surprised by Hope by N.T WrightMake sure you rate, review and subscribe to the podcast anywhere you listen and follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirls

Today on the podcast, we’re sharing a conversation with author and ministry leader Stephanie Watson about her new book, “Ruth’s Need for a Redeemer: A Bible Study on Loss, Loyalty, and Unexpected Love.” Katy and Stephanie explore the themes present in the book of Ruth, such as covenant, loyalty and provision, as well as the tension between academia and practical application type Biblical study. If you’re in need of a new personal Bible Study or one for your small group, make sure you click here to order “Ruth’s Need for a Redeemer.” Follow Stephanie’s publishing company Invite Press and check out all their wonderful Christian books and authors.Don’t forget rate, review and subscribe anywhere you listen and follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirls

Today on the podcast we are sharing a powerful conversation Katy recently had with iconographer Kelly Latimore. Kelly and Katy discuss why icons and symbols have been traditionally rejected in Evangelical spaces, telling stories through creativity and how art can often be a form of activism and lift the voices of women and other minorities.In our bonus Substack episode, Kelly and Katy discuss the ways he attempts to uplift marginalized communities as a white male without appropriating them. We’ll also share some specific pieces of art from the main episode that Kelly references if you’d like to check those out. Support Kelly’s work by checking out his website www.kellylatimoreicons.com and following him on Instagram @kellylatimoreiconsOther iconographers Kelly recommends following: @artofmarza@the_modern_saints_by_gracie@andhersaints@Psalmprayers@MarkdooxTwo other influential iconographers:Fr. William Hart McNicholsBr. Robert LentzDon’t forget rate, review and subscribe anywhere you listen and follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirls

Today on the podcast, Katy shares a conversation with positive parenting educator and family life coach, Wendy Snyder. Wendy is the founder of Fresh Start Family and has an upcoming book coming out in May called “Fresh Start Your Family: Powerful Parenting to Restore Peace in Your Home” which is available for pre-order now. Wendy and Katy chat about all things parenting, the risks of authoritarian parenting techniques, uncovering fundamentalism in Evangelical spaces, how to navigate technology with your kids, and so much more. Subscribe to our Substack to hear our bonus episode with Wendy where she debunks myths about gentle parenting.Make sure you check out Fresh Start Family and all Wendy’s amazing resources and make sure you follow Wendy on Instagram @freshstartwendyPre-order “Fresh Start Your Family” by clicking here for just $22Please check out other resources Wendy mentioned:Jesus, the Gentle Parent by L.R KnostThe Myth of Good Christian Parenting by Marissa Franks Burt and Kelsey Kramer McGinnisWoven: Nurturing a Faith Your Kid Doesn't Have to Heal From by Meredith MillerI've Got Questions: The Spiritual Practice of Having It Out with God by Erin MoonGET YOUR TICKETS HERE for our next Theology Girls in-person event on 4/10Don’t forget rate, review and subscribe anywhere you listen and follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirls

Today on the podcast, Katy shares a very important conversation she had with podcaster, author, and theologian Preston Sprinkle about his new book, “From Genesis to Junia: An Honest Look at What the Bible Really Says About Women in Leadership”. Preston and Katy cover a lot of ground including why it took him so long to write on this subject, trad wife culture, Doug Wilson, why context matters as well as the “problem passages” that tend to solidify a complementarian theological view regarding women and how to exegete those passages.Do us a favor and share this episode with a friend, or maybe even a conservative pastor today. Preston has a unique ability to speak to the conservative Evangelical world on this topic and we really believe this book could be a catalyst for change in the church.Make sure you check out our Substack and become a paid subscriber for just $8 a month to hear our bonus Second Service episode where Preston and Katy explore what both egalitarians and complementarians sometimes get wrong when approaching this topic. You can view all of Preston’s work on www.theologyintheraw.comPurchase a copy (or two) of “From Genesis to Junia” by clicking hereDon’t forget rate, review and subscribe anywhere you listen and follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirls

Today on the podcast, Katy shares a conversation with Jessica LM Jenkins about the book of Esther, Purim, and rethinking the Biblical story in light of the Epstein files and the sexual exploitation of women and girls. Before listening, please know that topics surrounding human trafficking and sexual abuse are discussed in this episode, so please listen with care.If you or someone you know if suffering from sexual violence of any kind, please contact 1-800-656-4673 to speak to someone today.Make sure you’re a paid subscriber on Substack to hear our bonus Second Service conversation with Jessica.“Women of the Bible in Context” episodes that relate to our topic today: Naomi & Ruth: When Everything Falls Apart (Ruth 1:1-15)Epstein and the Church's response to the Sexual Abuse CrisisDon’t forget rate, review and subscribe anywhere you listen and follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirls

Today on the podcast, Katy shares a special bonus conversation with co-founder and owner of Ninni Co. pacifiers, Joy Williams. Katy and joy discuss all things related to starting a business and the joys and challenges of being an entrepreneur, as well as how Joy’s faith has both been strengthened and challenged during this journey. You’ll also hear some special, and very exciting news about Ninni Co. toward the end of the episode, so make sure you stay on till the end.Use code THEOLOGYGIRL at checkout when you shop at www.ninnico.com to receive 10% off your entire purchase.Make sure you check out our bonus Second Service episode on Substack where Joy shares things she had to “un-learn” about God to move forward as a mom and business owner.Don’t forget rate, review and subscribe anywhere you listen and follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirls

This week on the podcast, Katy shares a conversation she had with Grammy Award winning singer and songwriter, Lloyd Nicks, who wrote the popular worship song, “That’s My King”, made popular by CeCe Winans. Katy and Lloyd chat about all things worship leading, song writing, Gospel music, the Black church, and his new song “Heal For You”. You can stream “Heal For You” anywhere you listen to music and make sure you let Lloyd know how much you love the song by sharing it with friends and family on your social media accounts. Click here to listen to “Heal For You”Don’t forget rate, review and subscribe anywhere you listen and follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirls

This week on the podcast, Katy shares a conversation she had with Kristen Miele, founder of Sex Ed Reclaimed. Sex Ed Relcaimed is a biblically grounded sex education curriculum helping Christian parents confidently teach sexuality to their kids — at every age, from 3 years old to 18 years old. Kristen has incredible courses available to purchase on her website, and you can use the code IMREADY for 20% off your purchase. Kristen and Katy talk about all things sexual education, purity culture, the gaps in public, private and homeschooling and Kristen shares some tangible tips for parents navigating what somewhat feels awkward and uncomfortable.Check out all of Kristen’s resources on her website www.sexedreclaimed.com and make sure you grab your course today. Tell a friend about her work and follow Kristen on Instagram @sexedreclaimedDon’t forget rate, review and subscribe anywhere you listen and follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirls

This week on the podcast, Katy shares a powerful conversation with Pastor Kimberly MacNeill about why women are leaving the church and attending less than ever before. They discuss hyper masculinity in our Sunday services, sexual abuse scandals, and the lack of a female presence in church leadership as what may be contributing to this phenomenon, as well as provide advice for ministry leaders who seek to elevate the voices of women. Make sure you check out our bonus Substack episode for paid subscribers where Katy and Kim “re-imagine” what the church might look like if they looked to Jesus’s example of leadership, rather than power and authority. Books and Resources:The Blue Parakeet: Rethinking How You Read the Bible by Scot McKnightA Church Called Tov: Forming a Goodness Culture That Resists Abuses of Power and Promotes Healing by Scot McNight and Laura BarringerJesus and Women: In the First Century and Now by Kristi McLellandThe Junia ProjectTogether in Ministry: Women and Men in Flourishing Partnerships by Rob DixonHere is the article Kimberly referenced regarding most worship songs being written by menDon’t forget rate, review and subscribe anywhere you listen and follow us on Instagram @thetheologgirls

This week on the podcast we are sharing a conversation with Old Testament scholar, professor and author Sandy Richter. Sandy and Katy discuss women’s roles in the Old Testament, lesser known female characters, and what the church gets wrong when using the Old Testament (or Bible as a whole) as a way to prohibit women’s roles in church leadership.Make sure you check out our bonus Substack “Second Service” where Sandy covers the forward movement of scripture and normative vs. situational passages. You can find all of Sandy’s work on her website.Purchase Abigail and the Waterfall here and make sure you head to our Instagram to win a free copy.You can read Sandy’s work with Seedbed on Women in Leadership by clicking here.Make sure you rate, review and subscribe to the podcast anywhere you listen and follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirls

This week on the podcast we’re sharing a powerful conversation with Tennessee Gubernatorial candidate Lauren Pinkston about what makes her campaign as an Independent different. We chat about her faith in Jesus and how that informs her politics and how we can reach across the aisle to care for those who believe differently than us.Whether you live in Tennessee or not, this is a campaign and a movement that we all can support and get behind. If you find yourself disillusioned with politics and the two party system in America, support a candidate like Lauren so more people like her put their hat in the ring and decide to run for office.If you’re not already, subscribe to our paid Substack community for just $8 a month and listen to our bonus Second Service episode with Lauren where I ask her some pointed questions about the rise of Christian Nationalism. You can donate to Lauren’s campaign and learn more about her by clicking here. Check out Lauren’s podcast about bi-racial adoption by clicking here.You can read Lauren’s Substack article Would You Rather Be American or Christian? here.Don’t forget to rate, review and subscribe anywhere you listen to podcasts and make sure you follow us on Instagram @thetheolgoygirls

This week on the podcast, we are sharing a conversation Katy had with her friend Jocelynn Brewer about the importance of having theologically rich Bible study material and curriculum for children and women and why there seems to be a gap for both of these demographics. They discuss how to handle tough questions from your kids as well as passenger princess theology, and whether or not women even desire deeper theological study.Check out 10 Dumb Things Smart Christians Believe by Larry Osborne by clicking herePurchase Rebecca McLaughlin’s book 10 Questions Every Teen Should Ask (and Answer) about ChristianityCheck out She Reads Truth and don’t forget to use code THETHEOLOGYGIRLS at checkout for 10% offThank you to our sponsor Ninni Co. and make sure to use code THEOLOGYGIRL at checkout for 10% off your purchaseDon’t forget to rate, review and subscribe anywhere you listen and follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirls and subscribe on Substack by clicking here

This week we are taking a break from our normal podcast schedule and having a conversation with Elizabeth Berget and Laura Kelly Fanucci about what’s happening on the ground in Minnesota (specifically Minneapolis) and all that’s taken place due to the ICE presence there. We chat about who’s been impacted the most, including women, children and churches as well as the Christian response, regardless of what side of the aisle you find yourself. We also talk through what it looks like to care about secure borders but also be against the way immigration enforcement is being carried out.Make sure you check out our bonus episode on Substack for paid subscribers by clicking here.If you want to get involved, check out the resources below:Neighbor Notes on SubstackWelcome the Stranger by Matthew SoerensWomen of WelcomeFollow Sharon McMahon on InstagramListen to The Holy Post PodcastMake sure you follow Elizabeth @elizabeth_a_berget and Laura @thismessygraceDon’t forget to rate, review and subscribe to the podcast anywhere you listen and follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirls

This week on the podcast, Katy shares a conversation she had with author and activist, Shane Claiborne. Shane provides insight Jesus shaped peacemaking, gun violence and the Christian response, or lack there of, when it comes to common sense gun reform. Katy and Shane also discuss what conservative women can do specifically to move the needle forward in their communities. This episode primarily highlights Shane’s book, “Beating Guns” which you can purchase here.Don’t forget to head to our Substack and listen to our Second Service episode where Katy asks Shane about the Evangelical refusal to speak up about gun violence and if he remains positive about the future.Check out Shane’s organization Red Letter Christians to learn about all the ways you can support his work there.And if you’d like to learn more about how Shane turns guns into garden tools, check out Raw Tools and all the phenomenal work they do. Don’t forget to rate, review and subscribe anywhere you listen and make sure to follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirls

This week on the podcast Katy sits down for a conversation with Wendy Schulz, founder of Life on Pilgrimage. Wendy shares about the modern pilgrimages she leads women on across Italy, Ireland and France and how pilgrimage can be an invitation to slow down and be present. You’ll also learn details about how exactly to participate in a pilgrimage and why traveling with Life on Pilgrimage is different than simply planning your own journey. Check out Life on Pilgrimage by clicking here and make sure you follow Wendy at @lifeonpilgrimageDon’t forget to rate, review and subscribe to the show anywhere you listen and follow us @thetheologygirls on Instagram

This week on the podcast Katy sits down with pastor and professor Matthew D. Kim to have a conversation about his new book, “What’s God Really Saying Here?” which covers the bizarre, weird, and troubling passages in scripture. Matthew covers the difference between expository preaching and topical preaching, and why preachers should let the text interpret the text, as well as why we shouldn’t fear difficult passages in scripture. We also chat about the passages that didn’t make it into the book and Matthew shares a story of the fruit that came from teaching on a difficult topic in his own congregation.Purchase “What’s God Really Saying Here?”Make sure you rate, review and subscribe to the podcast anywhere you listen and follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirls

This week on the podcast Katy shares a powerful conversation with New York Times Best Selling Author Beth Allison Barr about her new book Becoming the Pastor’s Wife. Beth defines both patriarchy and complementarian theology, as well as provides an explanation as to why the roles of women have become limited in certain religious spaces. Beth also provides advice for women that find themselves in a church context that doesn’t affirm women in leadership roles.Make sure you check out our continued conversation with Beth on our Second Service bonus episode available on Substack.Purchase The Making of Biblical Womanhood by clicking here.Purchase Becoming the Pastor’s Wife by clicking here.Make sure you rate, review and subscribe to the podcast anywhere you listen and please follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirls

This week on the podcast Katy discusses what Protestants can learn from Catholics with Mary Varni. Mary works for the Archdiocese of St. Louis in their Respect Life office and is wealth of knowledge on Catholic social teaching and doctrine. Mary debunks a common misconception about whether or not Catholics pray “to” Saints and also what determines whether or not someone is truly pro-life or not.Learn more about the Respect Life Apostolate in St. Louis by clicking here.Read the Gospel of Life by here.Make sure you rate, review and subscribe to the podcast anywhere you listen and follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirl

This week we chatted with Jessica LM Jenkins about how reimagining a more historically accurate nativity can impact both how we elevate the voices of women as well as our faith and theology. Make sure you check our bonus Second Service episode on Substack where we discuss the nativity as an act of resistance and also how Mary’s story can give women hope today.Below we’ve included Jessica’s links so make sure you follow her and grab some of her nativity paper dolls for Christmas.Shop and Paper DollsHistorically Accurate Nativity ExplanationPodcast Episodes:#13 Historically Accurate Nativity Part 1#14 Historically Accurate Nativity Part 2 #31 Presence Over Power: The Nativity as God's Answer to TraumaVisit Jessica’s website: www.wewhothirst.comFollow @jessicalmjenkins (Instagram, Threads, Facebook)Listen to Women of the Bible in Context: Her God, Her Story, Her Voice

Today we’ve got a special bonus LIVE recording to share with you from our quarterly in-person event “Magnify the Lord” where Pastor Angela Beise of The Crossing Grant’s Trail takes us on a deep dive into the Magnificat (otherwise known as Mary’s song). We hope this message encourages you and that you find hope in Mary’s story. Please make sure you share this episode with a friend, and don’t forget to rate, review and subscribe anywhere you listen.To visit The Crossing or find a campus near you, click the link here.

This week on the podcast Katy chats with Stephanie Kramer about her exodus from the Independent Fundamental Baptist Church. Stephanie shares about her faith practices inside the IFB, divorce, leaving the church and finding grace on the other side. If you have little ones with you, this might be opposite if you want to save for later, as we discussed pretty culture and sexual assault allegations within the church.You can learn more about the IFB and its dangerous teachings by checking out any of the resources we’ve listed below:Let Us Prey Documentary“The Well Trained Wife” by Tia Levings“The Myth of Good Christian Parenting” by Kelsey Kramer McGinnis and Marissa Franks BurtCheck out the related documentary “Shiny Happy People” to learn more about the IBLPAnd to listen to our bonus “Second Service” episode with Stephanie where we discuss sexual assault within the IFB and hard complementarian churches, head to Substack and join our community for just $8 a month.Don’t forget to rate, review and subscribe and follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirls

This week on the podcast Katy chats with author Maddie Fischer about her new 60 day devotional Rest + Rely. They dive deep into Maddie’s personal struggle with anxiety and depression, as well as how the church often over spiritualizes mental health struggles but the world often minimizes the power of prayer and community.Maddie also leads a group called LO Local, which is affiliated with Live Original and Sadie Robertson. You’ll get a chance to hear how she got involved with the organization and how you can plug into a local chapter.Make sure you follow Maddie on Instagram @maddie_joy and purchase Rest & Rely here or anywhere books are sold.

This week on the podcast we’ve got a special Giving Tuesday edition featuring Mikaela Garth, Executive Director and Founder of Powerful Purpose, an organization designed to help kids thrive, not just survive.Katy and Mikaela discuss what exactly her organization does and specific stories of children who’ve been impacted by Powerful Purpose. Mikaela also gives tips on what it might look like to live a more generous life in 2026 and how her faith impacts how operates in the world.Make a monetary donation and learn more about Powerful Purpose on their website www.powerfulpurpose.org and make sure you follow them on Instagram @power.fulpurposeDon’t forget to rate, review and subscribe to the podcast anywhere you listen and follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirls

On this bonus “Black Friday” episode of the podcast, we are talking to Cory Ball and Danny Lybarger about inerrancy and infallibility and how the way we interpret scripture impacts the way we do church. Cory is a theologically conservative pastor and Danny is a theologically progressive pastor. While they both disagree on a variety of topics, Cory and Danny are wonderful examples of how we can extend grace to those on the other side of the aisle. We discuss ways Christian’s from vastly different faith traditions can participate in ecumenical work and work together to make a positive impact. In a polarized world where everything feels high stakes and politicized, we hope this episode helps you turn down the temperature. And while you may not agree with someone, we hope you’re able to understand how or why they might hold the convictions they do.Follow Danny on Instagram @danny_Lybarger and visit his church The Well in St. Charles, Missouri.Follow Cory on Instagram @coryball and visit his church Redemption Church in Kirkwood (St. Louis), Missouri.Don’t forget to rate, review and subscribe to the podcast anywhere you listen.

This week on the podcast Katy shares a conversation she had with worship leader, writer and activist Hannah Herum to talk about Christian ethics and why they’re important for us today.What are ethics? Why do American Christians seem mainly concerned with issues like abortion and traditional marriage values but turn a blind eye to issues like gun violence, war, racism, or climate change?Hannah recommended a variety of resources that we will link below, but also encourages listeners to lean into the book of Deuteronomy, the minor prophets and the Sermon on the Mount. The Locust EffectAny books written by Dietrich Bonhoeffer or Shane ClaiborneMake sure you check out our bonus “Second Service” episode on Substack where Katy and Hannah discuss the ethical concerns of using AI.

This week on the podcast Katy talks with Marissa Franks Burt and Kelsey Kramer McGinnis about their new book, “The Myth of Good Christian Parenting,” and how the parenting techniques of past betrayed an entire generation of families. Below you’ll find some helpful links and more information about Marissa and Kelsey.Please make sure you rate, review and subscribe to the podcast wherever you listen and follow @thetheologygirls on Instagram.Marissa Franks Burt (MA in Theological Studies, Columbia International University) is a novelist, editor, teacher, and cohost of the At Home with the Lectionary and In the Church Library podcasts. She lives in a small town in Washington's Snoqualmie Valley with her husband, six children, and heaps of books.Kelsey Kramer McGinnis (PhD, University of Iowa) is a musicologist, educator, and correspondent for Christianity Today, writing on worship practices and Christian subculture. She is an adjunct professor at Grand View University in Des Moines and previously worked at the University of Iowa Center for Human Rights.You can purchase the book on Amazon or anywhere you buy books, as well as Audible or audiobook.Connect with Marissa and Kelsey below:Instagram: @mburtwrites | @kelseykmcginnisThreads: @mburtwrites | @kelseykmcginnisFacebook: @mburtwrites | @kelsey.kramermcginnisBluesky: @mburtwrites | @kkramermcginnisTikTok: @mburtwrites | @kelseykmcgSubstack: @mburtwrites | @kelseykramermcginnisYouTube: @mburtwrites And check out their limited series podcast called “In the Church Library”

This week Katy invites her best friend Rachael to sit down for retelling of their very own friendship break up and reconciliation process. They talk about what happened and what things contributed to the break down of their relationship as well as what it took to rebuild trust and commitment for the long haul.In this episode Katy and Rachael discuss the COVID-19 pandemic, politics, mask mandates and vaccines as some of what originally caused tension in their relationship. Neither Katy nor Rachael are presenting their stances on these topics as a means to convince you of right or wrong but to simply show that it is possible to be friends with someone who sees the world differently than you do.Don’t forget to rate, review and subscribe to the podcast anywhere you listen and make sure you follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirls

This week on the podcast Katy talks with Adina O’Neal about how to live on mission in your community. They talk through tangible ways to interact with those who live in proximity to you, the problems with small groups and where the modern evangelical church gets it wrong, in addition to the way Jesus lived among the lost and brought hope to people who desperately needed it.Adina recommends two different books for listeners to read on the topic of missional living:Brave Cities by Taylor McCall and Hugh HalterThe Irresistible Revolution by Shane ClaiborneRemember to rate, review and subscribe to the show where you listen to podcasts, and follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirls

This week on the podcast Katy sits down with fellow worship leaders Anitra McKenny and Cassaundra Eden to talk about the value of corporate worship, why singing together with the body of Christ matters and what female worship leaders bring to the table specifically. Whether you’re a worship leader, a worship enthusiast or even someone who is skeptical of the musical portion of our Sunday gatherings - this episode is for you.Below you’ll find several books and resources that were listed in the podcast:Bob Hartley - Adoration Prayer BookRobert S. McGee - The Search for SignificanceDon’t forget to rate, review and subscribe to the podcast anywhere you listen and follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirls

This week on the podcast, Katy sits down for an interview with Jennifer Powell McNutt, author of the book “The Mary We Forgot” to discuss all things Mary Magdalene. Who was she? Who wasn’t she? What can we learn about faith from her example?This is a conversation you will not want to miss out on. Make sure you share it with a friend, and please rate, review and subscribe to the podcast wherever you listen to podcasts.Follow Jennifer on Instagram @jpowellmcnutt and you can keep up with her on her website https://jenniferpowellmcnutt.comCheck out the ministry she and her husband David started together https://www.mcnuttshellministries.comBuy “The Mary We Forgot” by clicking here.

This week Katy interviewed artist and author, Kellie Bick about her journey through discovering her love for art, imposter syndrome, postpartum and motherhood. They discuss the intersection of faith and creating, as well as why it’s important for women to explore their creativity.Kellie also created a beautiful watercolor painting to kick off Mary Magdalene week that you can view on Instagram.Make sure you follow Kellie on Instagram @created.by.kellie And if you’re more interested in learning about Hutchmoot, you can click here.Make sure you rate, review and subscribe to the podcast and follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirls

This week Katy and Jocelynn discuss all things denominations and do a brief overview of church history. They also talk through a recent experience they had after being invited to participate in an interdenominational cohort called Oikos in St. Louis, Missouri.You can learn more about the Oikos group by clicking the link below:https://www.oikosgroup.orgKaty referenced two different books in this episode, the first being “Strange Religion” by Nijay Gupta and the second being “What’s a Christian Anyway?” by Glenn Packiam. Both are available to purchase on Amazon.Don’t forget to write, review, and subscribe to the podcast anywhere you listen to podcasts and follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirls

On the podcast this week, Katy talks with song writer, producer, musician and worship leader Russ Mohr about the intersection of music, creativity and faith. You can find Russ on social media @russmohrmusic and find more information about upcoming shows and concert tickets at www.russmohrmusic.comRuss recommended a book called “The Art of Creativity” by Rick Ruben for anyone needing inspiration when it comes to creating art or music.Make sure you rate, review and subscribe to the podcast and comment on this episode to tell us how much you loved it. And don’t forget to follow us on social media @thetheologygirls

This week Katy and Jocelynn sit down with Fuller Seminary professor Dr. Karen Murphy to talk about women in church history and theology. This is a rich conversation full of surprises, lesser known female church leaders, and inspiration for the next generation. Katy mentions a podcast titled All the Buried Women by Beth Allison Barr and Savannah Locke that you can find anywhere you listen to podcasts.Dr. Murphy provided us with lots of resources which are listed below:Her Story by Barbara MacHaffieWomen, Men and the Bible by Virginia MollenkottDaughters of the Church by Ruth Tucker and Walter LiefeldLiberating Tradition by Kristina LaCelle-PetersonA Women’s History of the Christian Church: Two Thousand Years of Female Leadership by Elizabeth Gillan MuirWomen in the Mission of the Church by Leanne M. Dzubinski and Anneke H. StassonWhat Paul Really Said About Women by John Temple BristolOrdination of Women by Paul K. JewettMan & Woman, One in Christ by Philip B. PayneMake sure you rate, review, comment and subscribe to the podcast to help us grow!

On this episode, Jocelynn and Katy are defining “terms” and giving you definitions for all those complicated theological words you may hear and have no idea what they mean. Put on your thinking cap, cause we are taking you to school.Also, Katy mentioned abandoning her favorite Bible translation, the ESV. Click here to read more. Is there a term or topic you’d like us to dive into? Send us an email at [email protected] and we will make sure to include it in a future episode.Make sure you rate, review and subscribe anywhere you listen to podcasts and don’t forget to follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirls

This week on the podcast Katy sits down with Pastor Tim Holley from The Journey West County in St. Louis to discuss the topic of church hurt. What do you do when you’ve been hurt by the church? Is there space for people who are actively deconstructing or grappling with theological questions in our church bodies? Is the church still relevant today and doesn’t have a purpose for believers? And where do women fit into the body of Christ and how can we prevent more women from leaving the church?Katy also shares some insight on what it’s like at times to be a female working and serving in the local church. The three books Tim references in this conversation will be linked below:When the Church Was a Family by Joseph H. HellermanRelational Spirituality by Todd HallThe Tipping Point by Malcolm GladwellMake sure you rate, review and subscribe to the podcast and follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirls

Welcome to the Theology Girls Podcast. On this episode, Katy and Jocelynn discuss what led them to start the Theology Girls. They share about their personal lives, faith journeys, and also answer questions about what listeners can expect from the podcast.Make sure you rate, review and subscribe anywhere you listen to podcasts and don’t forget to follow us on Instagram @thetheologygirls

Welcome to the Theology Girls Podcast. Each week, our goal is to cultivate a space for thoughtful conversations about what shapes our faith in real time - politics, theology, culture, and more. Follow us on Instagram and Substack @thetheologygirls