Truer Words

In the 68th episode of Truer Words, we speak with Michelle Quach about graphic design, unlikable female characters, and creating a love interest who does more than just the assigned reading. Michelle is the author of the debut YA, NOT HERE TO BE LIKED. Michelle can be found on Twitter @michellequach and Instagram @_michellequach. Her website is michellequach.com. Mentioned in this Episode: Gold-Plated Girls newsletter: 'Never Have I Ever' & Dead Dads & Me by Victoria Edel Laura Hankin A Special Place for Women by Laura Hankin The Other Two on HBOMax Munich Schitt's Creek on Netflix Ted Lasso on Apple+ Constance Grady Why a Christmas Episode Supercharged the Ted Lasso Debate by Kathryn VanArendonk Reservation Dogs on Hulu Only Murders in the Building on Hulu Moving On, A Love Story - Nora Ephron Apthorp article Portrait of a Scotsman by Evie Dunmore League of Extraordinary Women series The Bookshop of Second Chances by Jackie Fraser Suddenly You by LIsa Kleypas Fated Mates podcast Sally Rooney Why is the Sex in Sally Rooney's Novels So Good? by Amil Niazi She's All That Writing the Romantic Comedy by Billy Merritt Macbeth Life: A User's Manual by Georges Perec The Book Doctors PitMad If You, Then Me by Yvonne Woon In-Between Girl The Ezra Klein Show: How Blue Cities Became So Outrageously Unaffordable The Ezra Klein Show: That Anxiety You're Feeling? Hana Kh Carries On by Uzma Jalaluddin About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

In the 67th episode of Truer Words, we speak with Emma Kress about writing girls in sports, taking risks, and social media as an author. Emma is the author of DANGEROUS PLAY, available now! Emma can be found on Twitter @emma_kress, TikTok @emma_kress, and Instagram @kress.emma. Her website is emmakress.com. Mentioned in this Episode: All I Wanna Do Bluey Bluey is the Best Kids' Show of Our Time by Kathryn VanArendonk for Vulture Flat Stanley The Nanny Drawn That Way by Elissa Sussman A Court of Thorns and Roses by Sarah J. Maas Born in Fire / Born in Ice / Born in Shame (Irish Born trilogy) by Nora Roberts The Blue Castle by L. M. Montgomery Reservation Dogs Sterlin Harjo on WTF with Marc Maron Killers of the Flower Moon movie Brendan Fraser Joins Killers of the Flower Moon Killers of the Flower Moon by David Grann The Great House Revival Cynthia Leitich-Smith Mary Quattlebaum Amy King David Macinnis Gill A.R. Capetta Cory McCarthy Nova Ren Suma Our episode with Nova Ren Suma Ruth Ware Pride and Premeditation by Tirzah Price Our episode with Tirzah Price In the Same Boat by Holly Green Sarah Dessen When You Look Like Us by Pamela N. Harris Mare of Easttown Ted Lasso About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

In the 66th episode of Truer Words, we speak with Margot Wood about Emma retellings, marketing a book as "queer," and finding community in book lovers. Margot can be found on Twitter @margotwood and Instagram @margotmwood. Her website is margotwood.com. Mentioned in this Episode: Epic Reads Immersive Van Gogh exhibit Carrieres de Lumières Georges Méliès Hieronymous Bosch L'Atelier des Lumières Paris A Black Lady Sketch Show Issa Rae's wedding photos A Special Place for Women by Laura Hankin While We Were Dating by Jasmine Guillory Our episode with Jasmine Emma by Jane Austen Emma (2020 film) The Hunger Games by Suzanne Collins Adrienne Kisner Our episode with Adrienne Meisner technique Kiersten White Alphasmart Neo Typewriter The Princess Diaries Love, Simon Insurgent movie Cheer Up: Love and Pompoms by Crystal Fraser The Great Circle by Maggie Shipstead Ice Planet Barbarians by Ruby Dixon Bones Buffy the Vampire Slayer Freddie Prinze Jr. About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

In the 65th episode of Truer Words, we speak with Azadeh Westergaard about illustration, the joys of research, and Nikola Tesla. Azadeh is the author of A LIFE ELECTRIC: THE STORY OF NIKOLA TESLA. She can be found on Twitter @ahwestergaard and Instagram @ahwestergaard. Her website is ahwestergaard.com. Mentioned in this Episode: Vermont College of Fine Arts Writing for Children and Young Adults Heartburn by Nora Ephron audiobook read by Meryl Streep Heartburn movie Nora Ephron's "Heartburn" is an Ideal Audiobook by Helen Rosner Quotation from Heartburn Fresh by Margot Wood Emma by Jane Austen Clueless Hacks Joan Rivers: A Piece of Work Never Have I Ever Virgin River Black Widow Seven Days in June Thanks for Waiting by Doree Shafrir Forever35 podcast Amelia Bedelia Roseanne Rosannadanna Júlia Sardà (illustrator of Azadeh's book) She Made a Monster: How Mary Shelley Created Frankenstein by Lynn Fulton Mary Who Wrote Frankenstein by Linda Bailey, illustrated by Júlia Sardà Laura Hankin Andrea Bartz and Laura Hankin Talk About Accidentally Writing Similar Novels Elizabeth Gilbert Ann Patchett Big Magic Newspapers.com Nikola Tesla Museum New York Public Library Archive.org New York Public Library for the Performing Arts Theatre on Film and Tape Archive Oklahoma! on Broadway On a Beam of Light: A Story of Albert Einstein by Jennifer Berne Liz Garton Scanlon Maira Kalman Ooh-La-La Max in Love by Maira Kalman School of Visual Arts Monica Wellington Mary Quattlebaum Martha Brockenbrough Linda Urban Patent Pending bar Patent Pending in Nomad is a Cafe by Day, Speakeasy by Night Call My Agent! The Worst Witch The Worst Witch books by Jill Murphy Sing Sing 2 Misery Pokko and the Drum by Matthew Forsythe The Scribner Anthology of Contemporary Short Fiction Jhumpa Lahiri "Brownies" by ZZ Packer The Aspiring Poet's Journal About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].  

In the 64th episode of Truer Words, we speak with Cassie Gustafson about writing about sexual assault responsibly, loving dark stories, and Tana French. Cassie can be found on Twitter @cassiegusty and Instagram @cassiegusty. Her website is cassiegustafson.com. Mentioned in this Episode: Djerassi Nova Ren Suma Our episode with Nova Ren Suma World of Our Fathers: The Journey of Eastern European Jews and the Life They Found and Made by Irving Howe Norma Klein Just Friends Margaret The Cinematic Traumas of Kenneth Lonergan Melissa's Bright Wall / Dark Room essay Margaret issue of Bright Wall / Dark Room Smith-Cameron Succession You Can Count on Me Manchester by the Sea Angels in America West Side Story Gosford Park The Box in the Woods by Maureen Johnson Truly Devious Trilogy by Maureen Johnson The Artist's Way by Julia Cameron Finding Water by Julia Cameron By Now, Burnout is a Given Band Candy Earshot - Buffy saves Jonathan Danny Strong Laurie Halse Anderson Speak Tana French The Secret Place by Tana French The Trespasser by Tana French In the Woods by Tana French Laurie Faria Stolarz Jane Anonymous by Laurie Faria Stolarz The Last Secret You'll Ever Keep by Laurie Faria Stolarz Lost in the Never Woods by Aiden Thomas A Song Below Water by Bethany C. Morrow The Handmaid's Tale on Hulu Land directed by Robin Wright Songland About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

In the 63rd episode of Truer Words, we speak with Kristy Everington about Australian authors, why Americans call everything "cute," and Ethan Hawke. Kristy is the author of the debut picture book ISOBEL ADDS IT UP. Kristy can be found on Twitter @kmeverington and Instagram @kristyeveryington. Her website is kristyeverington.com. Mentioned in this Episode: Very Sincerely Yours by Kerry Winfrey Our episode with Kerry Winfrey Starstruck on HBO Max Ted Lasso on Apple+ Dickinson on Apple+ Hacks on HBO Max Succession on HBO One Last Stop by Casey McQuiston We Can't Keep Meeting Like This by Rachel Lynn Solomon Our episode with Rachel Lynn Solomon Kirkus review of Isobel Adds It Up Kathi Appelt Praise by Andrew McGahan Sara Zarr Looking for Alaska by John Green Twilight by Stephenie Meyer Jaclyn Moriarty Melina Marchetta Tomorrow, When the War Began series by John Marsden Martine Leavitt Jane Kurtz An Na Not Great, Bob! The Artist's Way by Julia Cameron Buffy on Hulu Angel on Hulu The X-Files THE X-FILES TWEET (allegedly, please don't sue us) Dawson's Creek Our episode with Laurie Morrison Mare of Easttown on HBO Max Cruel Summer on Freeform Vampire's Promise by Caroline B. Cooney You by Caroline Kepnes You TV series Dig by A.S. King The Project by Courtney Summers About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

In the 62nd episode of Truer Words, we speak with Camryn Garrett about journalism, film, writing for teens as a teen (and young adult), and DIRTY DANCING. Camryn is the author of two young adult novels, FULL DISCLOSURE and OFF THE RECORD. Camryn can be found on Twitter @dancingofpens and Instagram @camryngwrites. Her website is camryngarrett.com. Mentioned in this Episode: #1000wordsofsummer on Twitter #1000wordsofsummer/Craft Talk newsletter by Jami Attenberg Jami Attenberg Film at Lincoln Center World of Wong Kar-Wai In the Mood for Love Chungking Express Criterion Channel High on the Hog: How African American Cuisine Transformed America High on the Hog host Stephen Satterfield Magnolia Plantation Michael Twitty High on the Hog: A Culinary Journey from Africa to America by Jessica D. Harris Legacy by Nora Roberts One Last Stop by Casey McQuiston Red White and Royal Blue by Casey McQuiston Mare of Easttown Dirty Dancing Girls5eva Rutherford Falls We Are Lady Parts We Can't Keep Meeting Like This by Rachel Lynn Solomon Our episode with Rachel Lynn Solomon The Ex Talk by Rachel Lynn Solomon Weather Girl by Rachel Lynn Solomon We Can't Let Physical Media Die by Kieran Fisher Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman Time for Kids Reporters Nicola Yoon Jacqueline Woodson Almost Famous The Chris Farley Show on Saturday Night Live Shruti Ganguly NYU MBA/MFA program Spike Lee Kasi Lemmons Ang Lee Martin Scorsese Tamara Jenkins NYU MFA Acting shows The Princess Diaries by Meg Cabot Mike Nichols: A Life by Mark Harris Who? Weekly Leah Johnson The Movies That Made Us Eleanor Bergstein Love & Basketball About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].  

In the 54th episode of Truer Words, we speak with Evan Griffith about writing stories about animals, the magic of Mary Quattlebaum, and the beauty of The Crown on Netflix. Evan is the author of SECRETS OF THE SEA: THE STORY OF JEANNE POWER, REVOLUTIONARY MARINE SCIENTIST as well as an upcoming middle grade novel tentatively titled MANATEE SUMMER. Evan can be found on Twitter @Evan_Griffith. His website is evangriffithbooks.com. Mentioned in this Episode: Girl Gone Viral by Alisha Rai The Magician and The Spirits by Deb Noyes The Ex Talk by Rachel Lynn Solomon Today Tonight Tomorrow by Rachel Lynn Solomon Call My Agent! on Netflix Buffy on Hulu Angel on Hulu The Dry by Jane Harper The Lady Rogue by Jenn Bennett You Should See Me in a Crown by Leah Johnson 2021 ALA Awards Our episode with Yamile S. Mendez Furia by Yamile S. Mendez Our episode with Jenny Torres Sanchez We Are Not From Here by Jenny Torres Sanchez Our episode with Kekla Magoon Workman Publishing Mary Quattlebaum Joanie Stone (illustrator of Evan's book!) The Writing Barn Katherine Applegate Salima Alikhan Our episode with Salima Alikhan Austin SCBWI We Are Okay by Nina LaCour Premeditated Myrtle by Elizabeth Bunce Avatar: The Last Airbender The Crown The Crown Style Archives from Tom + Lorenzo About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].  

In the 61st episode of Truer Words, we speak with Laurie Morrison about writing upper middle grade, carving up old manuscripts for parts, and Judy Blume. Laurie is the author of the middle grade novel UP FOR AIR, the just-released SAINT IVY: KIND AT ALL COSTS, the upcoming COMING UP SHORT, and the co-author (with Cordelia Jensen) of EVERY SHINY THING. Laurie can be found on Twitter @LaurieLMorrison and Instagram @laurielmorrison. Her website is lauriemorrisonwrites.com. Mentioned in this Episode: Dawson's Creek Amy Spalding Our episode with Amy Spalding Amy's OUTFOXED book announcement People We Meet on Vacation by Emily Henry Beach Read by Emily Henry The Nanny Crossing Delancey Mare of Easttown Buffy the Vampire Slayer The Office Sex and the City The Bachelor Six Feet Under Law & Order: SVU SyndicatedBK Y Tu Mama Tambien In the Heights Film at Lincoln Center Jill Santopolo Cordelia Jensen Eighth Grade The Canada Geese Quilt by Natalie Kinsey-Warnock Judy Blume Just As Long As We're Together by Judy Blume Goodbye, Stranger by Rebecca Stead Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret? by Judy Blume Alan Cumyn Franny Billingsley Mary Quattlebaum Shelley Tanaka Never Have I Ever Losers at the Center of the Galaxy by Mary-Winn Heider The Comeback by E. L. Shen Get A Life, Chloe Brown by Talia Hibbert Joy McCullough Our episode with Joy McCullough Lost in Space (Netflix version) Lost in Space (movie) Lost in Space (1960s) Ted Lasso Schitt's Creek About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

In the 60th episode of Truer Words, we speak with A. S. King about writing EMOTIONS, respecting teens, and astrology. Amy is the author of multiple middle grade and young adult novels, including her newest, SWITCH, which comes out May 11th. Amy can be found on Twitter @AS_King and Instagram @as_king. Her website is as-king.com. Mentioned in this Episode: Jacques d'Amboise Jacques d'Amboise in China: The Other Side of the World Jacques d'Amboise dancing "Apollo" Jacques d'Amboise in the dream ballet in Carousel Jacques d'Amboise in Seven Brides for Seven Brothers He Makes Me Feel Like Dancin' Oscar-winning documentary directed by Emile Ardolino National Dance Institute Take a Hint, Dani Brown by Talia Hibbert Whiteout by Adriana Anders Fated Mates podcast Stacey Abrams romance novels I Crawl Through It by A. S. King Dig by A. S. King The Dust of 100 Dogs by A. S. King David Gill Vonnegut's Shape of Stories diagram David Levithan The Astonishing Life of Octavian Nothing by M. T. Anderson The Realm of Possibility by David Levithan Please Ignore Vera Dietz by A. S. King Paul Zindel John Mulaney Kae Tempest The Handmaid's Tale (audiobook version read by Claire Danes) by Margaret Atwood Interior Chinatown by Charles Yu Jitterbug Perfume by Tom Robbins The Man Suit by Zachary Schomberg Scary No Scary by Zachary Schomberg Louise Glück The Outlaw Bible of American Poetry Aaron's Books About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Larissa is the author of the picture books A Way with Wild Things, Born to Ride, How Do You Do? and the just-released Kafka and the Doll, as well as the short story collection Fat & Bones. Larissa can be found on Twitter @larissatheule and Instagram @larissa.theule. Her website is larissatheule.com. Mentioned in this Episode: The Nanny Golden Girls Whatfranwore on Instagram The Switch by A.S. King Dig by A.S. King Kafka and the Doll by Larissa Theule and illustrated by Rebecca Green Kafka's Last Love: The Mystery of Dora Diamant by Kathi Diamant Rita Williams-Garcia Micol Ostow Our episode with Micol The Artist's Way by Julia Cameron "Third-Culture Kid" On Being with Krista Tippett Podcast Hamilton Ninth House by Leigh Bardugo The Broken Earth trilogy by N.K. Jemisin Outside, Inside by LeUyen Pham Grantchester Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. About Us: You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Joy is the author of the YA novels BLOOD WATER PAINT and WE ARE THE ASHES, WE ARE THE FIRE, the middle grade novels A FIELD GUIDE TO GETTING LOST and ACROSS THE POND, and the picture book CHAMP & MAJOR: FIRST DOGS. Joy can be found on Twitter @JMCwrites and Instagram @JMCwrites. Her website is JoyMcCullough.com. Mentioned in this Episode: Tickets to Joy's 17-minute show, The Volcano, at Macha Theatre Works How NYC's Street Artists Have Responded to the Pandemic The Electric Horseman Emmy Lane Potter Our episode with Emmy Spotlight Barefoot in the Park California Split The Farewell Many Points of Me by Caroline Gertler The Fire Next Time by James Baldwin Jesse L. Martin in RENT The Fosters The House on the Cerulean Sea by T.J. Klune Good Trouble A Prayer for Owen Meany by John Irving Mya-Rose Craig Three Sisters John Logan Sarah Ruhl The Clean House The Laramie Project Jocelyn Bioh School Girls, or the African Mean Girls Play Talia Hibbert Act Your Age, Eve Brown Get a Life, Chloe Brown Dress Coded by Carrie Firestone Anne with an E About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Tzippy is the author of the Sydney Taylor Honor middle grade novel, NO VACANCY, and the upcoming picture book biography ON THE CORNER OF CHOCOLATE AVENUE: HOW MILTON HERSHEY BROUGHT MILK CHOCOLATE TO AMERICA. Tzippy can be found on Twitter @tzippymfa. Her website is tziporahcohen.com. Mentioned in this Episode: Not Great, Bob! Good Trouble The Fosters Judas and the Black Messiah Fred Hampton The Lucas Brothers Minari The House on the Cerulean Sea by T.J. Klune A Field Guide to Getting Lost by Joy McCullough We Are the Ashes, We Are the Fire by Joy McCullough Blood Water Paint by Joy McCullough Emma Buffy the Vampire Slayer Highlights Jewish Symposium PJ Library Sydney Taylor Awards The Carp in the Bathtub by Barbara Cohen Shelley Tanaka Sarah Ellis Groundwood Books Sarah Aronson Micol Ostow Our episode with Micol Nova Ren Suma Our episode with Nova Mary Quattlebaum Emperors of Chocolate: Inside the Secret World of Hershey and Mars by Joel Glenn Brenner Hershey: Milton Hershey's Extraordinary Life of Wealth, Empire, and Utopian Dreams by Michael D'Antonio Hershey Archives Derry Girls Barbie "Math is hard!" The Blackbird Girls by Anne Blankman Dancing at the Pity Party by Tyler Feder Turtle Boy by M. Evan Wolkenstein Today Tonight Tomorrow by Rachel Lynn Solomon Our episode with Rachel Lynn Solomon Noopiming: The Cure for White Ladies by Leanne Betasamosake Simpson Dark Matter by Blake Crouch Recursion by Blake Crouch Schitt's Creek Modern Family Lupin Ted Lasso The Good Lord Bird Kacen Callender Kacen's post on Social Media Expectations About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Rachel is the author of several YA novels, including YOU'LL MISS ME WHEN I'M GONE, OUR YEAR OF MAYBE, and TODAY TONIGHT TOMORROW, and the upcoming WE CAN'T KEEP MEETING LIKE THIS, as well as the author of the just-released adult romcom THE EX TALK. Rachel Lynn Solomon can be found on Twitter @rlynn_solomon and Instagram @rlynn_solomon. Her website is rachelsolomonbooks.com. Mentioned in this Episode: Rocky Callen Our episode with Rocky Callen Robin Benway Our episode with Robin Benway The Artist's Way by Julia Cameron Jeremy Jordan It's a Sin Barb and Star Go to Vista Del Mar Nine Rules to Break When Romancing a Rake by Sarah MacLean The Bookish Life of Nina Hill by Abbi Waxman Love at First by Kate Clayborn Love Lettering by Kate Clayborn Fated Mates podcast First Comes Like by Alisha Rai Dreaming of You by Lisa Kleypas Lagaan Satyajit Ray Ira Glass Sarah Vowell Starlee Kine In a World . . . Michelle Wolf Sarah Dessen John Green F. Scott Fitzgerald Ernest Hemingway Emily Henry The Princess Diaries Meg Cabot Marisa Kanter Laura J. Silverman Becky Albertalli Yes No Maybe So by Becky Albertalli and Aisha Saeed Judy Blume Forever . . . Happily Ever Afters by Elise Bryant How to Fail at Flirting by Denise Williams The Leftovers Lost Watchmen The West Wing The Crown Crowning Around About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Lauren is the author of six YA novels, including the upcoming IT'S KIND OF A CHEESY LOVE STORY. Lauren can be found on Twitter @laurenemorrill and Instagram @laurenmorrill. Her website is laurenmorrill.com. Mentioned in this Episode: Glasstown Entertainment Under Fire from Former Employees, Authors How Joss Whedon's Feminist Legacy Unraveled 'Justice League' Actor Ray Fisher: Joss Whedon Was "Abusive, Unprofessional" Joss Whedon is a "Hypocrite Preaching Feminist Ideals" Ex-Wife Kai Cole Says Joss Whedon Exits HBO Series 'The Nevers' Buffy the Vampire Slayer star Charisma Carpenter Speaks Out About Joss Whedon Charisma Carpenter accuses Joss Whedon of emotional abuse on Buffy the Vampire Slayer How Joss Whedon Fans Are Reckoning with Charisma Carpenter's Allegations WandaVision Rodgers & Hammerstein's Cinderella aka Brandy Cinderella The Oral History of Brandy's Cinderella Rodgers & Hammerstein's Cinderella with Lesley Ann Warren Head Over Heels by Hannah Orenstein Beach Read by Emily Henry Miss Scarlet and the Duke All Creatures Great and Small People We Meet on Vacation by Emily Henry Jackson Pearce Huffington Post: I Don't Know How to Explain to You That You Should Care About Other People A Young Adult Author's Tweet Went Viral - But Somehow, Dr. Fauci Got the Credit Lauren's husband Adam Ragusea's YouTube channel Cyrano de Bergerac Meant to Be by Lauren Morrill The Hunger Games by Suzanne Collins The Fault in Our Stars by John Green The Statistical Probability of Love at First Sight by Jennifer E. Smith Confessions of a Shopaholic by Sophie Kinsella Sarah Dessen Before I Fall by Lauren Oliver Clueless Gilmore Girls Father of the Bride Tiffany Schmidt RWA (Romance Writers of America) Ted Lasso Bridgerton The Project by Courtney Summers Wednesday Books Red, White & Royal Blue by Casey McQuiston St. Martin's Press Just As Long As We're Together by Judy Blume Little House on the Prairie by Laura Ingalls Wilder American Girl books About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Ellie can be found on Twitter @Cypher_ec and Instagram @cypher_ec. Her website is elliecypher.com. Mentioned in this Episode: VCFA WCYA Virtual Residency Girl Gone Viral by Alisha Rai Pretend It's a City The Other Bennet Sister by Janice Hadlow The Wilds The Revenant - book & movie Frozen True Grit - book & two movies V.E. Schwab Hadestown Alpacas! Samwise Gamgee's pony MOMA When Breath Becomes Air by Paul Kalanithi Mexican Gothic and Certain Dark Things by Silvia Moreno-Garcia All Creatures Great and Small, All Things Bright and Beautiful, Every Living Thing, and All Things Wise and Wonderful by James Herriot Inspector Lewis Endeavour Vera Van der Valk Bob's Burgers Parks and Recreation Radiolab The Exploress Podcast The Partial Historians Keeping a Notebook with Nina LaCour Amie Kaufman On Writing: A Podcast Deadline City with Dhonielle Clayton and Zoraida Córdova Let's Talk About Myths, Baby!

Kekla is the author of many award-winning books for young people. Her next book is the upcoming THE HIGHEST TRIBUTE: THURGOOD MARSHALL'S LIFE, LEADERSHIP, AND LEGACY. Kekla can be found on Twitter @keklamagoon. Her website is keklamagoon.com. Mentioned in this Episode: Bridgerton series by Julia Quinn Bridgerton series on Netflix Derry Girls Laura Freeman Ruby Bridges The Blue Stars by Kekla Magoon and Cynthia Leitich-Smith Cynthia Leitich-Smith How It Went Down by Kekla Magoon X: A Novel by Kekla Magoon and Ilyasah Shabazz Our episode with Amanda Gotera Norma Fox Mazer Legendborn by Tracy Deonn Great British Bakeoff Revolution in Our Time The Revolution Will Not Be Televised by Gil Scott-Heron Strange Fruit by Billie Holiday About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Amanda can be found on Instagram @amandapractica and Twitter @amandapractica. Her website is AmandaGotera.com. Mentioned in this Episode: Jacqui Lipton - Kathryn's new agent! Query Shark blog Christina Bryza Our episode with Christina Bridgerton novels by Julia Quinn Bridgerton on Netflix Ted Lasso Anthony Head Buffy the Vampire Slayer In A Holidaze by Christina Lauren The Duke Who Didn't by Courtney Milan Well Played by Jen Deluca Dolly Parton's Christmas on the Square (Netflix) Happiest Season (Hulu) Kristen Stewart Mackenzie Davis Clea DuVall The Faculty Veep Dan Levy Mary Steenburgen Victor Garber Ana Gasteyer Aubrey Plaza Tamora Pierce Die Hard Spirited Away Kiki's Delivery Service Moonstruck Star Trek The Neverending Story Return to Oz The Lioness Rampant by Tamora Pierce Lo-Fi Hip Hop Radio Beats to Relax To Star Trek Voyager Star Trek Next Generation Star Trek Prodigy Captain Janeway Gibson Girl About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Mentioned in this Episode: VCFA Alumnx Mini Residency When it Happens playlist by Melissa Resistance Revival Chorus Fuck Donald Trump by YG & Nipsey Hussle Fifth Avenue video of marching singing "Na Na Hey Hey Good-bye" "Watch: New York City Erupts in Celebration After Race is Called for Biden" - New York Magazine Adam Sternbergh on Twitter comparing it to V-E Day: "Hard to quantify the mood in the streets of NYC today. Non-stop honking and cheering, people just roaming and greeting each other in joyous disbelief. I wasn't around for VE Day but that feels like the closest analogy." Vote Save America Get Mitch or Die Trying Every Last Vote Fund Fair Fight Action Vote Forward Jenny Han Aisha Saeed "Steve Kornacki is the Only Cute Thing About the Election"- New York Magazine "Steve Kornacki Step on My Maps Challenge" - AV Club "Steve Kornacki's genuinely flustered reaction to thirst tweets is so hot" - AV Club Leslie Jones mad about Ali Velshi filling in for Steve Kornacki The Drew Barrymore Show Emmy Lane Potter on Twitter Our episode with Emmy Potter Dash & Lily Dash & Lily's Book of Dares by David Levithan and Rachel Cohn The West Wing About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Martha is the author of the multiple picture books, YA novels, and biographies for young people. UNPRESIDENTED, her biography of Donald Trump, is now out in paperback. Martha can be found on Instagram @marthabee and Twitter @mbrockenbrough. Her website is marthabrockenbrough.com. Mentioned in this Episode: UNPRESIDENTED by Martha Brockenbrough Pose Paris is Burning The West Wing Wet Hot American Summer A Chat with Chris Mooney about The Republican Brain Cynthia Leitich Smith Cynsations blog Watch Over Me by Nina LaCour Julia Quinn Bridgerton (Netflix) A Wish in the Dark by Christina Soontornvat All Thirteen by Christina Soontornvat Kate Messner Don Tate Kamala Harris: Rooted in Justice by Nikki Grimes Celia Perez Rick by Alex Gino About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Tirzah is the author of the upcoming JANE AUSTEN MURDER MYSTERIES, starting with PRIDE AND PREMEDITATION, and has a story in the new RURAL VOICES: 15 AUTHORS CHALLENGE ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT SMALL TOWN AMERICA anthology. Tirzah can be found on Instagram @tirzah.price and Twitter @tirzahprice. Her website is TirzahPrice.com. Mentioned in this Episode: Publisher's Weekly review of RURAL VOICES The Boyfriend Project by Farrah Rochon You're Wrong About . . . Why Are Dads? The War Buffy Angel New York Film Festival The West Wing The West Wing reunion Ted Lasso 4 Reasons Why I Love Hopepunk by Robin Galbraith Parks and Recreation Schitt's Creek Dickinson The Morning Show The Trial of the Chicago 7 American Utopia Romeo + Juliet Weetzie Bat Moulin Rouge Oklahoma! RURAL VOICES: 15 AUTHORS CHALLENGE ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT SMALL TOWN AMERICA edited by Nora Shalaway Carpenter Our episode with Nora Shalaway Carpenter Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen Sense and Sensibility by Jane Austen Mansfield Park by Jane Austen Agatha Christie Death Comes to Pemberley Georgette Heyer Dangerous Alliance by Jennieke Cohen Newt's Emerald by Garth Nix Lady Sherlock series by Sherry Thomas The Agency series by Y.S. Lee Dear America Vermont College of Fine Arts Writing for Children and Young Adults program at VCFA Bookriot Taylor Martindale Kean (Tirzah's agent!) Forest App SelfControl App The Blue Castle by L.M. Montgomery Something to Talk About by Meryl Wilsner Real Men Knit by Kwame Jackson The Only Good Indians by Stephen Graham-Jones When No One Is Watching by Alyssa Cole The Twisted Ones by T. Kingfisher Bodyguard on the BBC/Netflix Designated Survivor Tirzah's articles on Book Riot All the Books Book Riot podcast Read This Book newsletter for Book Riot About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Hayley is the author of two middle grade novels, The Turnaway Girls and The Sisters of Straygarden Place. Hayley can be found on Twitter @hayley_chewins. Her website is HayleyChewins.com. Mentioned in this Episode: Common Cause Sign up to do Election Protection! Vote Save America Postcards to Voters NYC Board of Elections One to Watch by Kate Stayman-London UnREAL on Lifetime PEN15 on Hulu That's So Gay': How 'PEN15' Nailed the Heartbreaking Experience of the Closeted Y2K Middle-Schooler - The Daily Beast Literally, What Did We Do When We Were 13? - The Cut The West Wing Bath Spa University Kate DiCamillo David Almond Karen Foxlee Neil Gaiman Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad Shelley Tanaka Noisli Blue Ticket by Sophie Mackintosh The Water Cure by Sophie Mackintosh The Emperor's Blades by Brian Stavely The Court of Miracles by Kester Grant The Jungle Book by Rudyard Kipling Les Miserables by Victor Hugo About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Samantha has received a Ruth Stone Poetry Prize and a Vermont Poetry Society prize, and her manuscript "Jewel Tones" was a semifinalist with the Crab Orchard Series in Poetry's 2019 First Book Prize. She coordinates author events at Bear Pond Books and is the Poetry Series Editor at Rootstock Publishing. Her chapbook, "Birth of a Daughter," is availabl now from Kelsay Books. Samantha can be found on Instagram @sampoetmfa and Twitter @Samanthakolber. Her website is SamanthaKolber.com. Mentioned in this Episode: Museum of the City of New York Something to Talk About by Meryl Wilsner The Flatshare by Beth O'Leary The Switch by Beth O'Leary Kerry Winfrey Our episode with Kerry Winfrey Tweet from R.O. Kwon: I've never been more convinced of the absolute necessity of art. Often, the best part of my day has to do with art of some kind, books, photos, music, movies, all of it; often, it's the only good part of my day. It's like my pandemic Popeye spinach & artists, I thank you New Girl The Complications of Hilma af Klint lecture The Parent Trap (1998 Lindsay Lohan version) The Parent Trap (Hayley Mills version) Bewitched Julie and the Phantoms Julie and the Phantoms novel by Micol Ostow Our episode with Micol Ostow Adventure Time The Duchess Fleabag The X-Files All the President's Men Dick Dick, the 1999 teen Watergate comedy, captures the enduring weirdness of political scandals by Alissa Wilkinson The People vs. OJ Simpson OJ Simpson: Made in America Veep Register to vote What is a Chapbook? from Writer's Digest Kelsay Books Keep This to Yourself by Kerrin McCadden The Teachers & Writers Handbook of Poetic Forms by Ron Padgett Fruit Rot by James R. Gapinsky Hunger Mountain Journal for the Arts Rootstock Publishing To the Man in the Red Suit by Christina Fulton Kirkus Reviews Bear Pond Books White Fragility by Robin DiAngelo How to be an Anti-Racist by Ibram X. Kendi Libro.fm Bookshop.org Poetry Foundation Poetry 180 ed. by Billy Collins Best American Poetry 2019 ed. by Major Jackson Chen Chen Ilya Kaminsky Jericho Brown Ocean Vuong Sylvia Plath Please Excuse This Poem edited by Brett Fletcher Lauer and Lynn Melnick Ada Limon I'll Be Gone in the Dark by Michelle McNamara (*I said "East Bay" but it's about the Golden State Killer) I'll Be Gone in the Dark series Beloved by Toni Morrison Station Eleven by Emily St. John Mandel Saving Ruby by Catherine Adel West About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Sarah is the author of several books, most recently Guantanamo Voices. Sarah can be found on Instagram @sarahmirk and Twitter @sarahmirk. Her website is mirkwork.com. Mentioned in this Episode: The Stranger Portland Mercury Bitch Media Popaganda You Do You by Sarah Mirk Sex from Scratch by Sarah Mirk Open Earth by Sarah Mirk, illustrated by Eva Cabrera and Claudia Aguirre March graphic novels Making the Met exhibit Making the Met audio tour narrated by Steve Martin A Rogue of One's Own by Evie Dunmore Girl Gone Viral by Alisha Rai New Girl What We Do in the Shadows The Voting Booth by Brandy Colbert Black Enough anthology edited by Ibi Zoboi The X-Files Buffy the Vampire Slayer The Nib The Book of Delights by Ross Gay Pose The Great About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Kristina is the author of I Wanna Be Where You Are and Now That I've Found You. Kristina can be found on Instagram @kristinaforest_ and Twitter @kristinaforest. Her website is kristinaforest.com. Mentioned in this Episode: Leo Fuchs: Special Photographer from the Golden Age of Hollywood Matt Sayles / Matt's instagram The Black List The Black List Earmovies archive - Selznick's Folly (based on a book of the same title) is the Hattie McDaniel biopic. We can't link to it directly but you can listen or download it on the page; there is also a separate episode featuring an interview with screenwriter Gesha-Marie Bland. Heidi Joyce's Stand Up Against Domestic Violence Randall Craig Fleischer Youngstown Symphony Orchestra Virtual concert with Randall Craig Fleischer Brother Jimmy's Wet Hot American Summer What We Do in the Shadows A French Village Rick Steves' Europe Travel Man The Trip / The Trip to Italy / The Trip to Greece The Durrells in Corfu No Offense by Meg Cabot Rachel Fershleiser Jasmine Guillory Nora Roberts Love Lettering by Kate Clayborn Romancing the Beat by Gwen Hayes How Vivian Stephens Helped Turn Romance Writing Into a Billion-Dollar Industry. Then She Got Pushed Out - Texas Monthly Breakfast at Tiffany's Roman Holiday Sabrina Diahann Carroll Audrey Hepburn Marilyn Monroe Dorothy Dandridge The Philadelphia Story Katharine Hepburn Jimmy Stewart Cary Grant Sidney Poitier Harry Bellafonte Denzel Washington John David Washington Dakota Johnson Melanie Griffith Tippi Hedren The Birds Antonio Banderas Bright Lights Fisher Stevens Clint Eastwood Scott Eastwood Mamie Gummer Evening Jamie Lee Curtis Janet Leigh Tony Curtis Sunset Boulevard Pommes Frites The New School MFA in Writing for Children and Young Adults David Lubar Sarah Dessen Hamline MFA Jill Santopolo Our episode with Christina Bryza The Warmth of Other Suns by Isabel Wilkerson The Last Dance Chloe x Halle The Gift - Beyoncé Black is King - Beyoncé About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Micol is the author of over 50 books for kids and young adults. Micol can be found on Instagram @micolostow and Twitter @micolz. Her website is micolostow.com. Mentioned in this Episode: Mediabistro.com Save the Cat! Writes A Novel by Jessica Brody Our episode with Erin Foley Chan Save the Cat! by Blake Snyder Today Tonight Tomorrow by Rachel Lynn Solomon Beach Read by Emily Henry The Turnaway Girls by Hayley Chewins Now That I've Found You by Kristina Forest Clive Cussler Mary Higgins Clark Christopher Pike R.L. Stine Sweet Valley High Francine Pascal Get a portrait from the Sweet Valley High portraitist Mean Girls movie / Mean Girls novelization by Micol Buffy the Vampire Slayer Riverdale / Riverdale book series by Micol The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina - Sarah Rees Brennan Sabrina the Teenage Witch series with Melissa Joan Hart Charmed Angel Archie Comics Amy Berkower Writers House Jodi Reamer Emily Goldberg Learns to Salsa by Micol Alloy Gossip Girl by Cecily von Ziegesar MediaBistro Stephenie Meyer John Green Kami Garcia Ally Condie Vermont College of Fine Arts Feed by M.T. Anderson ttyl by Lauren Myracle Hamline MFA The New School NYU MFA David Levithan Kathi Appelt Uma Krishnaswami Tim Wynne-Jones Louise Hawes family by Micol So Punk Rock: And Other Ways to Disappoint Your Mother by Micol and illustrated by David Ostow The Absolutely True Story of a Part-Time Indian by Sherman Alexie Heeb Magazine The Devil and Winnie Flynn by Micol and illustrated by David Ostow David Ostow in The New Yorker How I Live Now by Meg Rosoff Alex Segura / Alex on Twitter The Astonishing Life of Octavian Nothing by M.T. Anderson Sullivan, Who Is Always Too Loud by Micol, illustrated by Brian Biggs The Girl on the Train by Paula Hawkins Big Little Lies by Liane Moriarty The Worst Bestsellers Big Little Lies podcast episode The Luckiest Girl Alive by Jessica Knoll Patricia Cornwall Tana French Marvel Cinematic Universe movies Guardians of the Galaxy 2 Captain America About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Kate is the author of the young adult novel Elysium Girls. Kate can be found on Instagram @katepentecost and Twitter @pentecostelle. Her website is katepentecost.com. Mentioned in this Episode: The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck $279 a Day: Good Luck Finding a Cheap Rental Car in N.Y.C Slow Novel Lab with Nina LaCour Party of Two by Jasmine Guillory Buffy the Vampire Slayer Angel Buffering the Vampire Slayer podcast Angel on Top podcast Boyfriend Material by Alexis Hall Something to Talk About by Meryl Wilsner Tirzah Price Real Men Knit by Kwana Jackson Beach Read by Emily Henry Akira Kurosawa Seven Samurai A Bug's Life Weird West Attack on Titan The Worst Hard Time by Timothy Egan The Dust Bowl Ken Burns documentary No Man's Land Historical Society Dust Bowl Museum at No Man's Land Mark Karlins April Lurie Susan Fletcher Louise Hawes Sara Crowe Pacific Rim Lord Byron Rudyard Kipling The Great Unknowable End by Kathryn Ormsbee Truer Words episode with Kathryn Orsmbee Once Upon a Crime Unsolved Mysteries Where the Crawdad Sings by Delia Owens Studio Ghibli About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Anna is the author of the debut YA novel, I KISSED ALICE. Anna can be found on Instagram @ab_is_writing and Twitter @almost_anna. Her website is annabirchbooks.com. Mentioned in this Episode: The Baby-Sitters Club on Netflix The Baby-Sitters Club series by Ann M. Martin Clueless Babysitters Club style/Claudia's homage to Clueless Dick streaming on Showtime Pump Up the Volume Christian Slater Samantha Mathis Radio Days Buffy the Vampire Slayer The Beastie Boys BabySitters Club audiobooks Caboodles Rachel Shukert Glow Love Me by Rachel Shukert Starstruck by Rachel Shukert Smash recaps for Vulture by Rachel Shukert Kathryn VanArendonk's review of The Babysitters Club Babysitters Club graphic novels Raina Telgemeier Harry Potter series Twilight by Stephenie Meyer Eclipse by Stephenie Meyer Breaking Dawn by Stephenie Meyer The Raven Cycle by Maggie Stiefvater The Scorpio Races by Maggie Stiefvater Captive Prince by C.S. Pacat The Iliad by Homer The Odyssey by Homer The Song of Achilles by Madeline Miller Circe by Madeline Miller Alice's Adventures in Wonderland by C.S. Lewis Jessica Dore The Creative Tarot by Jessa Crispin Rider-Waite-Smith tarot deck Art Nouveau tarot deck Golden Thread tarot deck Sailor Moon tarot deck Maggie Stiefvater tarot deck PitchWars The Language of Cherries by Jen Marie Hawkins A Dangerous Year by Kes Trester Surrender Your Sons by Adam Sass The Devouring Gray by Christine Lynn Herman The Bride Test by Helen Hoang Well Met by Jen DeLuca Thank You Books in Crestwood, Alabama The Emperor's New Groove The Anatomy of Story by John Truby The Unhoneymooners by Christina Lauren Grand Designs Property Brothers The Restoration Man Escape to the Country Escape to the Continent The Martian HAIM Carly Rae Jespen Hozier About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Ann is the author of the young adult horror novels FIVE MIDNIGHTS and CATEGORY FIVE, co-author of SISTER CHICAS, as well as the Director of Student Recruitment for Vermont College of Fine Arts. Ann can be found on Instagram @anndavilacardinal and Twitter @anndcardinal. Her website is annhcardinal.com. Mentioned in this Episode: America to Me on Starz Irène Némirovsky Suite Française Slow Novel Lab Nina LaCour Dracula Lockdown: Stories of Crime, Hope, and Terror During a Pandemic Vermont College of Fine Arts Brendan Reichs Cory McCarthy Julie Larios Tim Wynne-Jones Sharon Darrow Tor Teen A Song Below Water by Bethany C. Morrow Lucifer Midsommar by directed Ari Aster Hereditary directed by Ari Aster The Southern Book Club's Guide to Slaying Vampires by Grady Hendrix About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Robyn is the author of several young adult novels, including YOU DON'T LIVE HERE, which comes out June 2nd. Robyn can be found on Instagram @robynschneider and Twitter @robynschneider. Her website is robynschneider.com. Mentioned in this Episode: Our Black Lives Matter post with lists and links Our Modern Minstrelsy by Kekla Magoon Black Book, TV Show, and Movie Recommendations #BlackOutTuesday by Akilah Brown Kristina Forest Believes Black Girls Deserve Happy Endings Too The Beginning of Everything by Robyn Schneider Extraordinary Means by Robyn Schneider Invisible Ghosts by Robyn Schneider The Fault in Our Stars by John Green Buffy the Vampire Slayer Grey's Anatomy The West Wing See Jane Write: A Girl's Guide to Writing Chick Lit by Sarah Mlynowski and Farrin Jacobs The Ten Thousand Doors of January by Alix E. Harrow Infinity Son by Adam Silvera The Beautiful by Renee Ahdieh The Murderbot Diaries by Martha Wells The Great on Hulu The Witcher on Netflix The Favourite Hayao Miyazaki scores on Spotify Zoey's Extraordinary Playlist Lullaby (Goodnight, My Angel) on Zoey's Extraordinary Playlist Lullaby (Goodnight, My Angel) original by Billy Joel Veronica Mars The OC About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Jenny can be found on Instagram @jennytsanchez and Twitter @jetchez. Her website is JennyTorresSanchez.com. Mentioned in this Episode: The Slow Novel Lab Nina LaCour Buffy the Vampire Slayer on Hulu Angel on Hulu Extraordinary Means by Robyn Schneider Anne of Avonlea by L. M. Montgomery The Fall of Innocence by Jenny Torres Sanchez The Half of It on Netflix Cyrano de Bergerac Front Desk by Kelly Yang Trick Mirror: Reflections on Self-Delusion by Jia Tolentino Fleishman is in Trouble by Taffy Brodesser-Akner Evvie Drake Starts Over by Linda Holmes I Like to Watch by Emily Nussbaum Highlights Foundation Highlights Magazine Jody Casella Las Musas Laurie Halse Anderson Jerry Spinelli Because of the Sun by Jenny Torres Sanchez The Stranger by Albert Camus Buffy the Vampire Slayer Prophecy Girl Death, Dickinson, and the Demented Life of Frenchie Garcia by Jenny All Summer in One Day by Ray Bradbury Alex Villasante Donna Higuera Those Winter Sundays poem by Robert Hayden John Green A.S. King Lauren Gibaldi The Downside of Being Charlie by Jenny Torres Sanchez Which Way Home Disappeared by Francisco Stork The Grief Keeper by Alexandra Villasante The Everything I Have Lost by Sylvia Zeleny Children of the Land by Marcelo Hernandez Castillo Land of the Cranes by Aida Salazar About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Jules can be found on Instagram @conjure_shrubs. Her album can be streamed on Bandcamp: Independence Day - Jules Thomson Effect. Mentioned in this Episode: Buffy the Vampire Slayer Angel Take Me to the World: A Sondheim 90th Birthday Celebration Elaine Stritch singing "I'm Still Here" at Sondheim's 80th Birthday Gala Anne of Green Gables by L.M. Montgomery A Parks and Recreation Social Distancing Special Never Have I Ever Mindy Kaling Buffering the Vampire Slayer Slayerfest '98 The Stories We Tell by Kristen Lepionka Pride Prejudice and Other Flavors by Sonali Dev The Ripped Bodice Joule-Thomson Effect Florence and the Machine Maria Callas The Indigo Girls Steeleye Span Antje Duvekot Samson G USB mic Blue Yeti Noisy Girls Cakewalk Eleventh Hour Lecture Series: Iowa Writers Workshop Mary Allen: Writing and the Power of Now Writing Excuses Write-Minded Writers Aloud How Fiction Works by James Wood By Cunning and Craft by Peter Selgin Virginia Woolf Vladimir Nabakov The Bonnie Road by Suzanne d'Coursey King Princess Muna Janelle Monae Julien Baker Little Women by Greta Gerwig Portrait of A Lady on Fire Plants and People in Ancient Scotland Jane Eyre by Charlotte Brontë Jane Eyre miniseries You're Wrong About Queery by Cameron Esposito About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Nicole can be found on Twitter @nicolekronzer and Instagram @nicolekronzer. Her website is nicolekronzer.com. Mentioned in this Episode: Christina Bryza Our episode with Christina Bryza Brene Brown on "Comparative Suffering" Our episode with Erin Foley Chan Rumble Boxing on Instagram Down Dog Yoga Mary Horne Yoga / Mary's YouTube channel Gluten-Free Matzo recipe Cottage Cheese Dill Bread All-of-A-Kind Family by Sydney Taylor Hart of Dixie Buffy the Vampire Slayer Firefly The X-Files Angel Marti Noxon Gilda Radner Roseanne Rosannadanna Judy Miller Amy Poehler Nina LaCour Anna Nicole Smith The Sleepover sketch from the first season of SNL episode hosted by Madeline Kahn (transcript) / tribute video The Gap Girls on SNL Gene Luen Yang American-Born Chinese by Gene Luen Yang Hold Still by Nina LaCour David Levithan You Know Me Well by Nina LaCour and David Levithan Sara Crowe Our episode with Nora Shalaway Carpenter Monty Python The Three Stooges Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood Some Like It Hot Alison McGhee Holly McGhee Books narrated by Julia Whelan Julia Whelan on Twitter Orphan Black Minor Dramas & Other Catastrophes by Kathleen West Bossypants by Tina Fey Yes, Please by Amy Poehler Someday, Someday Maybe by Lauren Graham Zoey's Extraordinary Playlist Jane Levy Suburgatory Skylar Astin Pitch Perfect Crazy Ex-Girlfriend Pippin A Streetcar Named Desire by Tennessee Williams / movie My Fair Lady Kiss Me, Kate The Taming of the Shrew Nickolas Butler Historic Charleston app From the Desk of Zoe Washington by Jenae Marks A Breath Too Late by Rocky Callen Our episode with Rocky Callen Bellweather Rhapsody by Kate Racculia Tuesday Mooney Talks to Ghosts by Kate Racculia The Alex Award Frankly in Love by David Yoon Nicola Yoon The Last Best Story by Maggie Lehrman His Girl Friday What I Leave Behind by Alison McGhee Black Enough edited by Ibi Zoboi Pride by Ibi Zoboi American Street by Ibi Zoboi Field Notes on Love by Jennifer E. Smith Maurene Goo A Very Large Expanse of Sea by Taherah Mafi Knives Out Monty Don's Big Dreams Small Spaces The Repair Shop Agnes Varda Ydessa, the Bears, etc. teddy bear documentary Little Women by Greta Gerwig Frances Gabe's (inventor of the self-cleaning house) obituary in the New York Times Lynn Spigel Bewitched I Dream of Jeannie Jeffrey Sconce All That Heaven Allows Douglas Sirk Jane Wyman Rock Hudson Constance Grady CatStronauts by Drew Brockington Maureen Johnson About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Rocky can be found on Twitter @rocky_writes and Instagram @rockywrites. Her website is rockycallen.com. Mentioned in this Episode: Jandy Nelson Melissa's friend Dr. Rachel Shively on CNN PJ Library seder plate activity Buffy the Vampire Slayer Emma. directed by Autumn de Wilde Georgette Heyer Venetia by Georgette Heyer The Honey-Don't List by Christina Lauren Babylon Berlin The Great Pottery Throwdown Big Dreams, Small Spaces Stand Up, Yumi Chung by Jessica Kim The Summer Before the War by Helen Simonsen Hope Nation Jenny Torres Sanchez The Grace Year by Kim Liggett The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood The Handmaid's Tale tv show on Hulu Embrace Your Weird by Felicia Day Masterclass RuPaul's Masterclass About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Kristy is the author of Isobel Adds It Up, which will be released from Random House in fall 2021. She can be found on Twitter @kmeverington. Marianne is a teaching artist, poet, performer, animator and modern day da Vinci (per Melissa). Her classes are available at The Writing Center. Marianne can be found on Twitter @flamingoboots, Instagram @flamingoboots, and her website is flamingoboots.com. You can also buy her prints at Society6. Mentioned in this Episode: Mary Horne yoga on YouTube Mary's instagram has more info on online classes Hart of Dixie Leslie Sansone Below Deck Survivor Siesta Key Westworld Remembrance by Meg Cabot Cate Berry Our episode with Cate Berry The Artist's Way: A Spiritual Path to Higher Creativity by Julia Cameron Marianne's first episode with us discussing The Artist's Way Quarantine Art Club by Carson Ellis Life As We Knew It by Susan Beth Pfeffer Outbreak Contagion Station Eleven by Emily St. John Mandel Gumroad Little Fires Everywhere based on the book by Celeste Ng Dare Me based on the book by Megan Abbott Cheer Pop Culture Happy Hour episode about Cheer and Dare Me The Plot Against America based on the book by Philip Roth David Simon The Wire Zoe Kazan Winona Ryder John Turturro How to pronounce Turturro Babylon Berlin New York Times Crossword Wordscapes Everything's Going to Be Okay Please Like Me Awkwafina is Nora From Queens Crashing Arthur Detective Barbie Love is Blind The Circle German Big Brother Rafting article Sex Education The Great Pottery Throwdown Terrace House The Bachelorette The Real World Emma. directed by Autumn de Wilde The Invisible Man directed by Leigh Whannell Headspace MNDFL Meditation on Instagram Shannon_Esti on Instagram Outlander based on the book series by Diana Gabaldon About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Nora is the author of The Edge of Anything, which will be released on March 24th, 2020, the Rural Voices anthology (to be released October 13, 2020) and the picture book Yoga Frog. She can be found on Twitter @norawritesbooks and Instagram @noracarpenterwrites. Her website is noracarpenterwrites.com. Mentioned in this Episode: Sleepless in Seattle Meg Cabot Stacy Abrams / Selena Montgomery Vermont College of Fine Arts Mary-Winn Heider Tirzah Price Victoria Wells-Arms Arc of a Scythe by Neal Shusterman Sanditon Emma directed by Autumn de Wilde Little Women directed by Greta Gerwig Murdoch Mysteries Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries Miss Fisher's Mysteries About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Emmy has written for publications like Bright Wall/Dark Room, the Belladonna, CultureSonar, and more! Emmy can be found on Twitter @emmylanepotter and Instagram @emmylanepotter. Mentioned in this Episode: Mindy Kaling Matt and Ben Martin Scorsese The Departed The Light in the Piazza Chicago Cabaret A Little Night Music Oklahoma! I'm Not at All In Love Great American Songbook My Mother Was Nuts by Penny Marshall The Souvenir Nick Nadal Ray Bradbury short stories Truman Capote short stories Walking as Creative Fuel - Brainpickings Zen and the Art of Writing by Ray Bradbury The Artist's Way by Julia Cameron Reese Witherspoon Ava DuVernay Parasite Mad Men Matt Weiner on what he learned working on The Sopranos Bird by Bird by Anne Lamott Girl, Interrupted directed by James Mangold See Jane Write by Sarah Mlynowski and Farrin Jacobs Ready Player One (movie) by Steven Spielberg Ready Player One (book) by Ernest Cline Goodfellas by Martin Scorsese End of the F***ing World on Netflix Life Isn't Everything: Mike Nichols, as remembered by 150 of his closest friends by Ash Carter and Sam Kashner Fleabag on Amazon Prime Call My Agent! aka Dix Pour Cent on Netflix The Good Place Heartburn (movie) directed by Mike Nichols, written by Nora Ephron Heartburn (book) by Nora Ephron Postcards from the Edge (movie) directed by Mike Nichols, written by Carrie Fisher Postcards from the Edge (book) by Carrie Fisher Schitt's Creek Clueless Succession Open Book by Jessica Simpson Angels cover by Jessica Simpson Angels by Robbie Williams Miss Americana Taylor Swift documentary on Netflix Gaga: Five Foot Two Lady Gaga documentary on Netflix Coal Miner's Daughter Loretta Lynn On Becoming a God in Central Florida on Showtime Dolly Parton Bright Wall/Dark Room A League of Their Own About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Juleah is the author of YA novels 500 Words or Less and the upcoming Turtle Under Ice. Juleah can be found on Twitter @juleahwrites, Instagram @juleah.delrosario, and her website is Juleahdelrosario.com. Mentioned in this Episode: Nova Ren Suma Our episode with Nova Ren Suma Djerassi A.M. (Amanda) Jenkins Brown Girl Dreaming by Jacqueline Woodson Inside Out and Back Again by Thanhhà Lại Ghost pottery scene All-American Girl by Meg Cabot "The Unexpected Pleasure of Being Mediocre" by Laura Lippmann Seth Rogen's pottery Art gifts made by writer David Rakoff Jami Attenberg Adrienne Kisner Our episode with Adrienne Abigail Hing Wen Our episode with Abigail Hing Wen Sabrina and Corina by Kali Fajardo-Anstine About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Tracy and the Women's Weekend Film Challenge can be found on Twitter @WWfilmchallenge, Instagram @womensweekendfilmchallenge, and at womensweekendfilmchallenge.com. Content warning: Melissa and Tracy briefly discuss rape and sexual assault around the 58 minute mark of this episode. Mentioned in this Episode: Little Women by Greta Gerwig Atlantics by Mati Diop The Farewell by Lulu Wang Hustlers by Lorene Scafaria You Have to Fail A Little (Melissa's piece on Eleanor and Francis Ford Coppola for Bright Wall/Dark Room) Wendy Wasserstein The Heidi Chronicles Uncommon Women and Others Women's Weekend Film Challenge Katrina Medoff (Tracy's co-founder of Women's Weekend Film Challenge) Lily + Mara - Tracy's short film co-directed by Caroline Roberts Oona Laurence Meghann Fahy Pete's Dragon The Bold Type Christina Bryza Our episode with Christina Bryza Agnès Varda Leslie Schultz BRIC Entertainment Kathryn O'Kane Salt Fat Acid Heat on Netflix Bandersnatch Reese Witherspoon Oprah Mindy Kaling Lena Waithe Deniz Gamze Ergüven Mustang Lightbulb Grip & Electric Transformers Avengers Gotham Sound Museum of the Moving Image Queens Council of the Arts Sesame Street Mike Sayre Queens Museum Music for Icebergs Olivia Wilde Talking About a Gender-Swapped Reading of American Pie It's A Whole Spiel: Love, Latkes, and Other Jewish Stories edited by Katherine Locke and Laura Silverman Harvey Weinstein article The HeSo project Maybe You Should Talk to Someone by Lori Gottlieb Succession on HBO Girls on HBO About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Amy can be found on Twitter @theames, Instagram @thatames, and her website is theamyspalding.com. Mentioned in this Episode: The Last Five Years (musical) The Last Five Years (movie) streaming on Amazon Prime Loveboat, Taipei by Abigail Hing Wen Abigail Hing Wen Our episode with Abigail Hing Wen Know My Name by Chanel Miller Agnès Varda: A Retrospective Jacques Demy Jacquot de Nantes The Umbrellas of Cherbourg Schitt's Creek In the Cemetery Where Al Jolson is Buried by Amy Hempel Amanda (A.M.) Jenkins Jason Robert Brown Merrily We Roll Along Hairspray (movie) Hairspray (musical) Hairspray (movie musical) Christie Baugher The Fitzgeralds of Saint Paul Norbert Leo Butz Sherie Rene Scott Lauren Kennedy "They Didn't Speak for a Decade. Then They Made a Show About it." - article about Norbert Leo Butz and Sherie Rene Scott in the NY Times The Summer of Jordi Perez (and the Best Burger in Los Angeles) by Amy Sweet Valley High Dumplin' by Julie Murphy UCB Mad Men Watchman on HBO Trick Mirror: Reflections on Self-Delusion by Jia Tolentino Rebecca Traister Full Disclosure by Camryn Garrett Oklahoma! Our episode with Ally Hord About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Mentioned in this Episode: Christina Bryza Our episode with Christina The Artist's Way by Julia Cameron Stuff You Missed in History Class Insight Timer Headspace Calm Jessie Janowitz Our episode with Jessie You've Got Mail walking tour Adrienne Kisner Our episode with Adrienne Jennifer (J. Albert) Mann Our episode with Jen Marianne Murphy Our episode with Marianne Vermont College of Fine Arts Nova Ren Suma Our episode with Nova Red, White, and Royal Blue by Casey McQuiston She Said by Jodi Kantor and Meghan Twohey Catch and Kill by Ronan Farrow Casey McQuiston Kerry Winfrey Our episode with Kerry Winfrey Penderwicks series by Jeanne Birdsall Booksmart To All the Boys: P.S. I Still Love You Varda by Agnès New York Film Festival Varda: A Retrospective at Film at Lincoln Center Star Wars Rogue One Solo Little Women Hustlers Books of Wonder The Truth About Twinkie Pie by Kat Yeh Succession Fleabag Derry Girls Phoebe Waller-Bridge Superstore Justin Spitzer The Office Parks and Recreation Lizzo Robyn dance party on the subway You're Wrong About The Sauce Podcast American Girls Night Call The Quibbler The Indigo Girls Pod Save America Lovett or Leave It What a Day Says Who? Hot and Bothered The Worst Bestsellers Big Little Lies by Liane Moriarty Thirst Aid Kit Fuckbois of Literature About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Abigail is the author of Loveboat, Taipei, which will be released on January 7th, 2020. She can be found on Twitter @abigailhingwen and Instagram @abigailhingwen. Her website is abigailhingwen.com. Mentioned in this Episode: Vermont College of Fine Arts Shelley Tanaka Vermont College of Fine Arts Sandra Nickel Amanda Jenkins Kristen Pettit Phantom of the Opera Les Misérables Miss Saigon Cleveland Playhouse Judy Chu Eddie Huang Fresh Off The Boat Loveboat, Taipei documentary Valerie Soe Andrew Yang Sabaa Tahir David Yoon Nicola Yoon Mulan (animated, 1998) Mulan (live-action, 2020) About Truer Words: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Denise is a teaching artist, actor, and writer/editor who works with arts integration and arts program management. Denise is on Twitter at @dasantamouro and Instagram @denisesantomauro. Her editing services are available at Angellela Editorial and Story Studio Chicago. Denise's website is https://www.denisesantomauro.com/. Marianne is a teaching artist, poet, performer, animator and modern day da Vinci (per Melissa). Her classes are available at The Writing Center. Marianne can be found on Twitter @flamingoboots, Instagram @flamingoboots, and her website is flamingoboots.com. You can also buy her prints at Society6. Mentioned in this Episode: Hebru Brantley Nevermore Park Inside Nevermore Park L'Atelier des Lumières Carrières des Lumières Georges Méliès Hieronymous Bosch Argosy Book Store Mrs. Astor's New York Atlas Obscura Martini Junction Train in the woods Jim Henson Leonardo da Vinci Our episode with Christina Bryza Oklahoma! revival on Broadway Daniel Fish's Dark Take on "Oklahoma!" in The New Yorker Jud Fry the Incel? in Theatermania Patrick Vaill Nanowrimo (National Novel Writing Month) Making Comics by Lynda Barry About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Kathryn is the author of the young adult novels Tash Hearts Tolstoy, The Great Unknowable End, and The Sullivan Sisters, as well as the books for young readers The Water and the Wild, The Doorway and the Deep, The Current and the Cure, The House in Poplar Wood, and Midnight on Strange Street. Kathryn can be found on Twitter @kathsby and Instagram @kathsby. Kathryn's website is keormsbee.com. Mentioned in this Episode: Our episode with Ally Hord Dave Holstein Kidding on Showtime Jena Friedman Late Show with David Letterman The Daily Show Ted & Gracie Our episode with Christina Bryza Stephenie Meyer Beth Phelan The Artist's Way by Julia Cameron The Crown on Netflix Nanowrimo A Christmas Duet Christmas at Dollywood Plus One movie on Hulu Blake Edwards The Pink Panther Jessica Lange Alfred Hitchcock presents Good Evening: An Alfred Hitchcock Presents podcast The Haunting of Hill House on Netflix The Turn of the Screw by Henry James The Innocents film co-written by Truman Capote The Grace Year by Kim Liggett His Hideous Hearts edited by Dahlia Adler The Mask of the Red Death The Monkey's Paw by W. W. Jacobs The Tell-Tale Heart by Edgar Allen Poe The Adventure Zone podcast My Brother, My Brother, and Me podcast Oh no, Ross and Carrie! podcast About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Mentioned in this Episode: The Artist's Way by Julia Cameron Varda by Agnès New York Film Festival Tulsa Artist Fellowship Molly Backes Our episode with Molly Backes Juliana Goodman David Rakoff Live Funny or Die Larry King The Brady Bunch A Closer Look on Late Night with Seth Meyers Sal Gentile Pod Save America Crooked Media Impeachment sketch on Late Night with Seth Meyers Funny or Die Paley Center Newseum Lee Huebner Nixon-Kennedy first televised debate Women's March sketch from Late Night with Seth Meyers Woman Scouts (Ally's pilot) Christina Bryza Our episode with Christina Daria Jane Espensen Mee-Ow Titanic Players Adam Sachs NSTV Jake Szymanski (director of Mike and Dave Need Wedding Dates and the greatest Robyn tribute ever) Dave Holstein (creator of Showtime's Kidding) Broad City Stick Figure Productions Lisa Loeb #1 Single on E! Chris Bruss Mike Farah Adam McKay Will Ferrell Studio 22Late Show with David Letterman UTA job list UCB Theatre Harvey Weinstein sketch on Late Night with Seth Meyers Tarana Burke Unscripted by Nicole Kronzer ICE Raids followed a massive sexual harassment settlement at Mississippi plants Full Frontal with Samantha Bee I Love You, America with Sarah Silverman on Hulu The Break with Michelle Wolf on Netflix RuPaul's Drag Race on VH1 Pose on FX Succession on HBO Bird by Bird by Anne Lamott Trick Mirror by Jia Tolentino Normal People by Sally Rooney Blitzed: Drugs in the Third Reich by Norman Ohler Grunt: The Curious Science of Humans at War by Mary Roach Fantasyland: How America Went Haywire by Kurt Andersen The Dream podcast About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Cate is the author of the picture books PENGUIN AND TINY SHRIMP DON'T DO BEDTIME and the upcoming CHICKEN BREAK. Cate can be found on Twitter & Instagram @cateberryatx. Her website is CateBerry.com Mentioned in this Episode: The Artist's Way by Julia Cameron Podraland Podraland article about Truer Words! Our episode with Jen Doll The Secret Laws of Attraction Prosperity Gospel The Prosperous Heart by Julia Cameron Leonardo da Vinci's Saint Jerome at the Metropolitan Museum of Art Edith Wharton house Fleabag Ocean's Eleven Die Hard CBGB Arlene's Grocery Dance Me to the End of Love by Leonard Cohen (with Matisse illustrations) The Iridescence of Birds by Patricia MacLaughlan Kwame Alexander Leonard Cohen: A Crack in Everything exhibit at the Jewish Museum Anastasia Krupnik by Lois Lowry K.A. Holt House Arrest by K.A. Holt One by Sarah Crossan AWP Mary Quattlebaum Marianne Murphy Meg Cook Jen Mann (aka J. Albert Mann) Our episode with Jen (J. Albert Mann) Guess Again! by Mac Barnett and illustrated by Adam Rex Martha Brockenbrough Tammi Sauer Sudipta Barhan-Quallen Vermont College of Fine Arts Nova Ren Suma Our episode with Nova Big Magic: Creative Living Beyond Fear by Elizabeth Gilbert Tom Birdseye Nina LaCour's Keeping a Notebook podcast Shadow Artist concept from The Artist's Way Ira Glass quote about beginners Liz Garton Scanlon Kelly Barnhill Deep Creek by Pam Houston About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Bristol is a hand-knitting designer and teacher. Her website is bristolivy.com and she can be found on Twitter: @bristolivy and Instagram: @bristolivy. Her designs can be found and purchased on Ravelry. Mentioned in this Episode: The Artist's Way by Julia Cameron Our episode with Nova Ren Suma Our episode with Robin Benway Raise Your Hand by Alice Paul Tapper Goethe The Secret Our episode with Kerry Winfrey Law & Order: SVU WWOOF Brooklyn Tweed Bristol's designs on Ravelry MyBluprint Lovecrafts Knitting Outside the Box by Bristol Ravelry New York Sheep and Wool Festival The X-Files The Dark Tower series by Stephen King Future Night of the Living God by Louise Erdrich The Beet Queen by Louise Erdrich How to Break Up with Your Phone by Catherine Price Deep Work by Cal Newport About Truer Words: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Lauren is the author of two YA novels, YOUR DESTINATION IS ON THE LEFT and SHE'S THE WORST, and an associate literary agent at TriadaUS. Her website is LaurenSpieller.com and she can be found on Twitter: @laurenspieller and Instagram: @laurenspieller. Mentioned in this Episode: Somewhere Only We Know by Maurene Goo The Artist's Way by Julia Cameron Forever 35 podcast episode with Gretchen Rubin Gretchen Rubin Co-Star Astrology App Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt Leonard Cohen: A Crack in Everything exhibit at the Jewish Museum in NYC The Mount: Edith Wharton's house Kripalu Fleishman is in Trouble by Taffy Brodesser-Akner Hamilton "Hurricane" from Hamilton Tiffany Schmidt, author of Bookish Boyfriends series Follow your curiosity - Elizabeth Gilbert Dessert First by Dean Gloster The Hunger Games by Suzanne Collins Marc Maron Glow Alison Brie Jim McCarthy (Lauren's agent) City of Bones by Cassie Clare Nova Ren Suma Our episode with Nova Ren Suma Fleabag The Great British Baking Show Wilder Girls by Rory Power Sawkill Girls by Claire LeGrand Vita Nostra by Sergey and Marina Dyachenko The Wolf of Cape Fen - Juliana Brandt Lauren's manuscript wish list #mswl About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Julia Cameron Julia Cameron Wants You to Do Your Morning Pages by Penelope Green, The New York Times The Artist's Way in an Age of Self-Promotion by Carrie Battan, The New Yorker Our interview with Christina Bryza Micol Ostow Viacom Permalance Slave System from Gawker (R.I.P.) The Artist's Way Every Day: A Year of Creative Living by Julia The Right to Write by Julia Finding Water by Julia Elizabeth Gilbert Facebook post about The Artist's Way Eat Pray Love by Elizabeth Gilbert Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert The Secret The Laws of Attraction The Worst Bestsellers episode on The Secret Courtney Sheinmel Leonard Cohen: A Crack in Everything at the Jewish Museum Drawing the Curtain: Maurice Sendak's Design for Opera and Ballet at the Morgan Library Cooper Hewitt Museum Amanda Jenkins Nova Ren Suma Libba Bray Djerassi Resident Artist Program Corey Ann Haydu Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].

Kerry is the author of the YA novels Love and Other Alien Experiences and Things Jolie Needs To Do Before She Bites It and the adult romcom Waiting for Tom Hanks. Find Kerry on Twitter: @kerryann and Instagram: @kerryann. Her website is kerrywinfrey.com. Mentioned in this Episode: Just Wright Rosie's Theater Kids U.N.I.T.Y. by Queen Latifah Billy Wilder's Rules of Good Filmmaking Conversations with Billy Wilder (Vanity Fair excerpt here) by Cameron Crowe Margaret Bechard Made of Honor - Patrick Dempsey / Michelle Monaghan movie The Wedding Date - Debra Messing movie Ghostbusters How Red, White, and Royal Blue Became the Unlikely Book of Summer Red, White, and Royal Blue by Casey McQuiston The Blue Castle by L.M. Montgomery The Last Holiday The Wedding Date by Jasmine Guillory You've Got Mail Sleepless in Seattle I'll Have What She's Having by Erin Carlson "Instant Messenger May Be Dead, but You've Got Mail is Forever" by Hilary Weaver A Year of Romcoms tumblr Meg Cabot Nora Roberts You've Got Mail walking tour Cafe Lalo Boat Basin Books of Wonder Colson Whitehead quote from The Colossus of New York Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's Dead Fitzgerald as Screenwriter: No Hollywood Ending HelloGiggles Glasstown Entertainment Lauren Oliver Lexa Hillyer "Why is Gen Z Obsessed with The Office?" by Sonia Saraiya Jen Maschari Jody Casella The Book Loft Tom Hanks and the Great Lakes Theater Festival Rainbow Rowell "Real Romance" - Nora Roberts profile in The New Yorker by Lauren Collins Get A Life, Chloe Brown by Talia Hibbert The Flatshare by Beth O'Leary The Holiday Our interview with Jasmine About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at [email protected].