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Unapologetic: The Third Narrative
by With Amira and Ibrahim
UTTN is an independent podcast created and hosted by Palestinian activists Amira Mohammed (‘67) and Ibrahim Abu Ahmad (‘48). For decades, narratives on Palestine and Israel have been deeply polarized, fueling division and sustaining inequalities that block justice and peace. A Third Narrative is essential to break this cycle. It fosters an inclusive community for those seeking real solutions and committed to nonviolence. It envisions a future that doesn’t just mediate between sides but transforms the conversation—paving the way for meaningful change.
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ALBI, there for you
In this episode, we sit with Libby Lenkinski, Founder and President of Albi, a fund, institute, and lab built on one belief: that art is not an accessory to change, it is the spark.After years in movement spaces, Libby turned toward culture as the ground where possibility is first imagined. What she is building with Albi is not just support for artists, but an infrastructure for imagination. A commitment to the idea that creativity can open what politics alone cannot.Some stories don't just move you. They change you. Through its Film and Television Fund, its Palestinian Creatives Pipeline in collaboration with Jalal Masarwa and Rosalin Agbaria, and its Fáros Fellows program, Albi pours itself into the stories that humanize, that ache, and that stay with you long after the screen goes dark. This is what Libby describes as "Creative Defiance." A refusal to accept a world where empathy is scarce and imagination is limited. A belief that art can reach where argument fails, and move people before they know they are ready to be moved.Show notes:At the time of recording this episode, 4 Albi-supported films were shortlisted at the Oscars: Holding Liat, The Voice of Hind Rajab, Coexistence, My Ass!, and Children No More: Were and Are Gone. Two of them were eventually nominated for Academy Awards: Children No More: Were and Are Gone for Best Documentary Short Film and The Voice of Hind Rajab for Best International Feature Film. In addition, here is the open letter by Avigail Sperber mentioned in the episode in relation to the cultural boycott of Israeli films, or any kind of association with Israeli films.Films / Shows Mentioned in the EpisodeArab Labor Our BoysFive Broken CamerasWaltz with BashirUnorthodoxUnder African SkiesArna's ChildrenDisclaimer: This episode was recorded on January 6, 2026. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future.CreditsSponsored by: Albi WorldHosts / Executive Producers: Amira Mohammed & Ibrahim Abu AhmadAssociate Producer / Editor / Audio Mix: Evelyn UzanOriginal Music: Layan Hawila – Support her journey as a music therapy student at BerkleeFilming: Nissan Film ProductionBranding: Sophie CookeAnimation: Santiago Gomez
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Clean Shelter
What began as a conversation did not stay there. It turned into persistence. Into urgency. Into late-night phone calls and constant coordination. Into people refusing to sit still.At the center of it was a question: What do the people of Gaza need right now, and how do we get it to them?Clean Shelter was born from that question, and from two women who refused to be bystanders.In this episode, we are joined remotely for the first time this season by Seba AbuDaqa and Tom Kellner, founders of the German NGO now working alongside teams on the ground in Gaza. But this work does not begin abroad. It begins inside Gaza itself. The volunteers there know what their communities need. They know the terrain, the shortages, and the risks. They know how to build, repair, and distribute under impossible conditions.Seba and Tom walk us through the logistics and daily problem-solving behind what they call “the bare minimum”: sanitary needs and shelter solutions for tens of thousands of Gazans. What sounds simple on paper requires resourcefulness, trust, and people on the ground who are willing to act.While the world debates the future of Gaza, Clean Shelter is urgently tending to its present, one tent, one desalination unit, and one toilet at a time.This is a conversation about refusing to let dialogue end at words, and about what happens when people carry it forward into action.Donate to Clean Shelter here, and be sure to check out HUMAN EYES - a powerful project with proceeds going directly to them.Disclaimer: This episode was recorded on December 1, 2025. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future.CreditsSponsored by: B8 of Hope with the support of Albi WorldHosts / Executive Producers: Amira Mohammed & Ibrahim Abu AhmadAssociate Producer / Editor / Audio Mix: Evelyn UzanOriginal Music: Layan Hawila – Support her journey as a music therapy student at BerkleeFilming: Nissan Film ProductionBranding: Sophie CookeAnimation: Santiago Gomez
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Disruptive Education
Stories are how we learn who we are, who belongs, and who we’re taught to fear. Some stories are inherited so early they feel like truth. Others begin to fracture only when lived reality no longer matches what we were told.In this episode we're joined by Becca Strober, an educator and organizer whose life has been shaped by the slow, painful unraveling of the stories they grew up with. From Jerusalem to the U.S., from Zionist education to military service, Becca traces the moments where ideology met reality, and where the language of security, morality, and defense gave way to the lived experience of occupation, apartheid, and the continuing Nakba.The conversation moves through memory and encounter: the normalization of control in the West Bank, the legal architecture of military rule, and the quiet ways dehumanization is taught and sustained. Becca reflects on what it means to realize that participation in a system of violence doesn’t always look like cruelty. Sometimes it looks like routine, obedience, and silence.This is an episode about unlearning, the cost of seeing clearly and about what becomes possible when justice is no longer treated as abstract. Becca speaks about the role of education as disruption, about solidarity as practice rather than sentiment, and about the importance of showing up on the ground, not to lead, but to stand alongside. It asks what safety really means, who it is built for, and whether a future rooted in equality between the river and the sea can exist without first confronting the stories that brought us here.Episode Links:Becca Explains the OccupationBreaking the SilenceCenter for Jewish NonviolenceTa'ayushRabbis for Human RightsAchvat AmimThe Disillusioned PodcastDisclaimer: This episode was recorded on October 8, 2025. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future.CreditsSponsored by: B8 of Hope with the support of Albi WorldHosts / Executive Producers: Amira Mohammed & Ibrahim Abu AhmadAssociate Producer / Supervising Editor / Audio Mix: Evelyn UzanOriginal Music: Layan Hawila – Support her journey as a music therapy student at BerkleeFilming & Editing: Nissan Film ProductionBranding: Sophie CookeAnimation: Santiago Gomez
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Objection Overruled
Laws are meant to protect people, maintain order, and define what’s fair. But what happens when the law is applied only to some, while denying rights to others?For Palestinian citizens of Israel, this is a daily reality. Laws meant to safeguard freedom of speech, movement, and expression are often used as tools of control, punishment, and exclusion, rights that exist on paper but are routinely denied in practice.In this episode, we sit with Hadeel Abu Salih, a human rights lawyer and activist at Adalah, to examine how Israeli law functions in practice for Palestinians, and how repression has sharply escalated since October 2023. Drawing on hundreds of cases, Hadeel exposes a legal system where speech can be criminalized before it’s even expressed, students and academics are disciplined for political thought, and prolonged detention without trial has become routine. Alongside this, the hosts reflect on some of the fears and reservations they carry about being public in this moment.We trace the continuity from the policies following May 2021 to the sweeping crackdown after October 7, revealing how emergency measures have solidified into permanent governance. Hadeel also unpacks how apartheid legislation is deepening, not only through arrests and indictments, but through laws that threaten family life, movement, and collective presence.This episode explores law as lived experience, fear, endurance, and the cost of speaking out, and what it means to keep resisting from inside the courtroom.Be sure to explore Adalah’s website to read reports, review cases, listen to their podcast, and of course, support their work by donating here.Disclaimer: This episode was recorded on November 25, 2025. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future.CreditsSponsored by: B8 of Hope with the support of Albi WorldHosts / Executive Producers: Amira Mohammed & Ibrahim Abu AhmadAssociate Producer / Supervising Editor / Audio Mix: Evelyn UzanOriginal Music: Layan Hawila – Support her journey as a music therapy student at BerkleeFilming & Editing: Nissan Film ProductionBranding: Sophie CookeAnimation: Santiago Gomez
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Palestinian Poetic Justice
For more than 26 years, Tamer Nafar has bent language into a weapon, a mirror, and the airplane’s black box.In his words: "The world is a crashing plane. I'm not Captain Sully; I cannot save the day. I'm that black box. I'm nothing but that black box. I document, eject seat, then cash out."From the birth of Palestinian hip-hop to today, his voice has never separated art from truth or culture from resistance.In this episode, we sit with Tamer at a pivotal moment. As he prepares to release his first English-language album, In the Name of the Father, the Imam and John Lennon (out January 20), and embarks on a European tour starting January 26, he reflects on creation under pressure, the cost of speaking clearly, and why storytelling matters when everything feels at stake.Beyond music, Tamer the activist uses his platform to raise funds for organizations like Clean Shelter and Resolute RGL. He continues to write, challenge, and provoke through his political op-eds, and he is expanding his literary world with upcoming novels 3Gs and 2 ATM’s.Hip‑hop taught him to be a fireman in a burning world, not because he can stop the flames, but because turning away would be to burn too.Links to everything else Tamer:Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, DAM Facebook, DAM Instagram, DAM YouTube, Junction 48Artists mentioned in episode:Suhel Nafar, Djamil, Maysa Daw, Rasha Nahas, MC Abdul, Noel Kharman, Nasir Al Bashir, Mahmoud JrereSongs referenced:Rock it like a Palestinian, Change the World For me, The Beat Never Goes Off, JASADIK-HOM, Min Irhabi, Johnnie Mashi, SuperLancer, #Who_You_R, Go There, Al Fashi MashiDisclaimer: This episode was recorded on December 22, 2025. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future.CreditsSponsored by: Albi WorldHosts / Executive Producers: Amira Mohammed & Ibrahim Abu AhmadAssociate Producer / Supervising Editor / Audio Mix: Evelyn UzanOriginal Music: Layan Hawila – Support her journey as a music therapy student at BerkleeFilming & Editing: Nissan Film ProductionBranding: Sophie CookeAnimation: Santiago Gomez
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Let's Reflect
In this episode, we strip things back and sit down for an honest one-on-one. Amira and Ibrahim reflect on Season 2 so far—what it’s stirred up, what they’ve learned, and how the conversations are evolving. They unpack newly introduced terminology, respond to audience feedback, and unpack their personal feelings. Be sure to listen until the end of the episode, where we introduce HUMAN EYES - a project in collaboration with Toronto-based artist, Hieram. All proceeds from the sale of these one-of-a-kind hand-painted jackets will go directly to a family in Gaza and Clean Shelter. Join us for this much-needed pause: a thoughtful, grounding conversation about where we’ve been and where we’re headed.Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrative Subscribe to us on Patreon: Patreon.com/ThirdNarrative For more info on UTTN, visit uttn.net or our Linktree Disclaimer: This episode was recorded on November 9, 2025. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future.CreditsSponsored by: B8 of Hope with the support of Albi WorldHosts / Executive Producers: Amira Mohammed & Ibrahim Abu AhmadAssociate Producer / Supervising Editor: Evelyn UzanOriginal Music: Layan Hawila – Support her journey as a music therapy student at BerkleeFilming & Editing: Nissan Film ProductionBranding: Sophie CookeAnimation: Santiago Gomez
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From Grassroots to Purple Skies
In Episode 8, we sit down with Sally Abed — socialist organizer, new mother, and the first Palestinian woman to lead a joint Jewish-Arab slate and be elected to Haifa’s municipal council with Haifa Majority. As a leader in the purple grassroots movement, Standing Together, she works to turn joint struggle into political impact.Sally reflects on her path from neighborhood activism to municipal leadership, the values that guide her work, and the impact of boycotting, including the challenges of being targeted by it.Tune into her episode and be sure to check out the links below:Haifa MajorityStanding TogetherThe Long Answer PodcastFollow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrative Subscribe to us on Patreon: Patreon.com/ThirdNarrative For more info on UTTN, visit uttn.net or our Linktree Disclaimer: This episode was recorded on October 27, 2025. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future.CreditsSponsored by: B8 of Hope with the support of Albi WorldHosts / Executive Producers: Amira Mohammed & Ibrahim Abu AhmadAssociate Producer / Supervising Editor: Evelyn UzanOriginal Music: Layan Hawila – Support her journey as a music therapy student at BerkleeFilming & Editing: Nissan Film ProductionBranding: Sophie CookeAnimation: Santiago Gomez
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Changing Minds, One Post At a Time
Eran Nissan calls himself “a juggler,” and for good reason. He moves between multiple initiatives focused on peace, reconciliation, and co-resistance between Israelis and Palestinians, all while leading Mehazkim as its CEO.Mehazkim — whose name in Hebrew means “to strengthen” or “to empower” — is a left-wing digital movement advancing equality, ending the occupation, defending democracy and human rights, and promoting women’s and LGBTQ+ rights and climate justice. Through strategic campaigns, it gives ordinary citizens the tools to create meaningful social and political impact.As a new father and strategist for societal transformation, Eran believes real progress begins from within. He explains how shifting the mindset of individuals shapes their behaviors, which influences policies and ultimately reshapes reality. In this conversation, he shares stories of personal growth, societal evolution, and the vision of a future where equality, freedom, and justice are not just ideals, but lived experiences.Links mentioned in episode:MehazkimPhoenix FrameworkViral Interview (FCK BNGVR)Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrative Subscribe to us on Patreon: Patreon.com/ThirdNarrative For more info on UTTN, visit uttn.net or our Linktree Disclaimer: This episode was recorded on September 24, 2025. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future.CreditsSponsored by: B8 of Hope with the support of Albi WorldHosts / Executive Producers: Amira Mohammed & Ibrahim Abu AhmadAssociate Producer / Supervising Editor: Evelyn UzanOriginal Music: Layan Hawila – Support her journey as a music therapy student at BerkleeFilming & Editing: Nissan Film ProductionBranding: Sophie CookeAnimation: Santiago Gomez
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Existence is Resistance
In this powerful episode, we sit down with Nimala Kharoufeh— an inspirational teacher, women's circle trainer, group facilitator, and the first Samara Yoga teacher in the Middle East. She holds over 14 accredited certificates in self-development and well-being. With 15 years of experience in local and international peacebuilding organizations, she specializes in youth and women’s development, leadership, communication, and team building. As the director of the Palestinian Freedom School, and founder of the soon-to-open Sahwa Healing Center in Beit Jala, Nimala holds true to the symbolism of her name. Inside the Combatants for Peace office, Nimala reflects on what it means to grow up in a family split by IDs, to navigate a geography that keeps shrinking, and to carry the emotional weight of simply existing as a Palestinian. Yet she brings something rare: a pathway toward healing, inner awakening, and the reclamation of humanity in a world that tries to erase it.With striking vulnerability, she speaks about trauma, womanhood, community care, and the revolutionary choice to step out of victimhood and into responsibility. This same vision led her to create the Sahwa Healing Center— a community-rooted space now in its final stages of becoming a reality, where Palestinians will have access to grounding practices like yoga, meditation, women’s circles, trauma-informed healing, and much more. With your support, the doors of this space can open sooner rather than later, bringing healing and connection to a community that needs it.If you’ve ever wondered what steadfastness looks like, what healing inside occupation feels like, or what it takes to keep showing up when everything around you is falling apart—this episode is for you.Listen, share, and—if you’re able—consider donating to help bring the Sahwa Healing Center to life. Your support directly fuels the mental, emotional, spiritual, and physical well-being of Palestinians.Disclaimer: This episode was recorded on September 28th, 2025. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future.CreditsSponsored by: B8 of Hope with the support of Albi WorldHosts / Executive Producers: Amira Mohammed & Ibrahim Abu AhmadAssociate Producer / Supervising Editor: Evelyn UzanOriginal Music: Layan Hawila – Support her journey as a music therapy student at BerkleeFilming & Editing: Nissan Film ProductionBranding: Sophie CookeAnimation: Santiago Gomez
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Allow us to Demonstrate: Solidarity
In this episode, Danielle Cantor — co-mother and community organizer with Culture of Solidarity, a grassroots mutual aid collective — opens up on what it means to live and act from a place of radical care in unbearable times. Culture of Solidarity builds networks of care, resistance, and justice from the ground up, bringing together activists, organizers, and neighbors to meet urgent needs while confronting systems of inequality and oppression. Their work spans food justice, political education, anti-war organizing, and support for marginalized communities in their ongoing struggles for dignity and liberation. Through her honesty, weariness, and courage, Danielle reveals the emotional cost of organizing and the strength it takes to keep showing up.She reflects on how empathy can become an action, on what solidarity truly means when facing the realities of occupation, and on her community’s commitment to care that doesn’t shy away from uncomfortable truths. From standing in silent vigils for murdered children in Gaza, to leaving a beloved community space in the name of integrity, Danielle reminds us that compassion without accountability is hollow — and that a different kind of future is imperative, one rooted in justice, equality, and deep care.If you were inspired to join any of the activities mentioned in this episode, follow @twinkyyyy and @culture_of_solidarity on Instagram for updates! Disclaimer: This episode was recorded on August 25th, 2025. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future.CreditsSponsored by: B8 of Hope with the support of Albi WorldHosts / Executive Producers: Amira Mohammed & Ibrahim Abu AhmadAssociate Producer / Supervising Editor: Evelyn UzanOriginal Music: Layan Hawila – Support her journey as a music therapy student at BerkleeFilming & Editing: Nissan Film ProductionBranding: Sophie CookeAnimation: Santiago Gomez
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Harmony in the Midst of Chaos
From a young age, Mahdi refused to let judgment or limitation define him. Where others saw barriers, he instinctively looked for ways forward, creating solutions in the spaces that needed them most. That same determination drives his work today as Co-founder of Harmony Network, a platform uniting the Arab minority in Israel to cultivate a powerful community of skilled professionals. The network provides opportunities for the roughly 21% of the population who face systemic barriers. Mahdi’s proactive spirit also led to the launch of the Harmony SOS app, developed in a moment of urgency during the recent war with Iran to support and safeguard his community. In this conversation, Mahdi shares how he transformed criticism into determination, why he chose to channel his activism into building networks and tools, and what it means to take action differently in pursuit of long-term change. Tune in for more on his vision, persistence, and belief that strength grows through connection.Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrative Subscribe to us on Patreon: Patreon.com/ThirdNarrative For more info on UTTN, visit uttn.net or our Linktree Disclaimer: This episode was recorded on August 17th, 2025. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future.CreditsSponsored by: B8 of Hope with the support of Albi WorldHosts / Executive Producers: Amira Mohammed & Ibrahim Abu AhmadAssociate Producer / Supervising Editor: Evelyn UzanOriginal Music: Layan Hawila – Support her journey as a music therapy student at BerkleeFilming & Editing: Nissan Film ProductionBranding: Sophie CookeAnimation: Santiago Gomez
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Palestine's Big Sis
From the hills of Dura to the heart of Gaza, Yara moves with conviction, turning care into action. Shaped by loss and love, she leads by example — creating spaces where children can learn, play, and hold onto hope amid uncertainty. As the Deputy Executive Director of The Gaza Children’s Village and a volunteer with Wallah We Can, she dedicates herself to nurturing the next generation and opening doors, no matter what new challenge presents itself. In this episode, Yara reflects on the moments that shaped her path and the revolution found in education, resilience, and a better future.Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrative Subscribe to us on Patreon: Patreon.com/ThirdNarrative For more info on UTTN, visit uttn.net or our Linktree Disclaimer: This episode was recorded on September 28th, 2025. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future.CreditsHosts / Executive Producers: Amira Mohammed & Ibrahim Abu AhmadAssociate Producer / Supervising Editor: Evelyn UzanOriginal Music: Layan Hawila – Support her journey as a music therapy student at BerkleeFilming & Editing: Nissan Film ProductionBranding: Sophie CookeAnimation: Santiago Gomez
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From Louisiana to Jerusalem
In Episode 2, we sit down with Lana Ikelan—Co-Educational Director at Kids4Peace, alum of Tomorrow’s Women, and a speaker with Solutions Not Sides. Lana shares her experiences as an East Jerusalemite and reflects on her complex Palestinian identity, navigating a city full of unseen boundaries and hidden challenges. She opens up about her path into activism, the work she does to empower young people, and the bridges she’s building in a divided world. For in-depth information on the status of Jerusalem, the Reunification Law, and related legal, social, and municipal issues, you can visit a very thorough resource center here. Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrative Subscribe to us on Patreon: Patreon.com/ThirdNarrative For more info on UTTN, visit uttn.net or our Linktree Disclaimer: This episode was recorded on August 24th, 2025. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future.CreditsSponsored by: B8 of Hope with the support of Albi WorldHosts / Executive Producers: Amira Mohammed & Ibrahim Abu AhmadAssociate Producer / Supervising Editor: Evelyn UzanOriginal Music: Layan Hawila – Support her journey as a music therapy student at BerkleeFilming & Editing: Nissan Film ProductionBranding: Sophie CookeAnimation: Santiago Gomez
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Season 2: Action!
After Season 1 wrapped last November, we didn’t stop. We released a bonus episode in February, hosted four international events, led countless workshops and speaking engagements, recorded three episodes abroad, and sat down with policymakers around the world—all alongside our on-the-ground activism.While we’ve always been Unapologetic: The Third Narrative, we’ve now shortened our name to UTTN—keeping our mission the same while distinguishing ourselves from another entity with a similar name. We’re also building a full website at uttn.net, where you can learn more about who we are, our story, and our values.To bring Season 2 to life, we had to grow: fundraising, spreading the word beyond the podcast, and shifting our focus. Season 1 centered on stories of identity on this land. Season 2, while still engaging with personal identities, spotlights the actions of our incredible guests who are working on the ground to make change.In Episode 1, Amira & Ibrahim dive into the new format, the vision behind the changes, and the heart of UTTN’s work moving forward.We ask you to listen with an open ear and an open heart. The voices you’ll hear this season aren’t just stories—they’re pathways to action, courage, and possibility.Welcome to Season 2. Let’s dive in.Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrative Subscribe to us on Patreon: Patreon.com/ThirdNarrative For more info on UTTN, visit uttn.net or our Linktree Disclaimer: This episode was recorded on August 17th, 2025. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future.CreditsSponsored by: B8 of Hope with the support of Albi WorldHosts / Executive Producers: Amira Mohammed & Ibrahim Abu AhmadAssociate Producer / Supervising Editor: Evelyn UzanOriginal Music: Layan Hawila – Support her journey as a music therapy student at Berklee Intro Music Mixed by: Gavi KutliroffFilming & Editing: Nissan Film ProductionBranding: Sophie CookeAnimation: Santiago Gomez
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International Series - MENA Initiative
In the final episode of our international mini-series, we spotlight the student perspective through a powerful conversation with Reine and Leo—outgoing and incoming board members of the MENA Initiative at the Graduate Institute in Geneva. They share their experiences, the successes of organizing student-led events, and the realities of balancing activism with academic life—perspectives we believe deserve a seat at the table.This episode also reflects on our own journey. Back in Season 1, Episode 19 – “Let’s Talk Protests,” we discussed student-led demonstrations with the limited knowledge we had at the time. Today, we know that 97% of student-led pro-Palestine demonstrations remain peaceful (ACLED report). While we are not journalists, we are individuals with a platform—and when we learn better, we strive to do better.Throughout this series, we’ve explored three entry points into activism and politics:1️⃣ Grassroots organizing2️⃣ Political activism3️⃣ Student initiativesEach offers a unique lens into building a just and inclusive future. We wish this conversation could have been longer, as there was so much more to unpack, but we hope you enjoyed listening.If these discussions make you uncomfortable, we invite you to lean in. Dialogue over debate helps us humanize rather than demonize—even when we disagree. Because at the end of the day, we all deserve better!✨ Stay tuned for Season 2 next month! We’ve got big changes ahead! Join us on Patreon for early access to episodes, community Zoom calls, and exclusive one-on-one sessions with Amira and Ibrahim.Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrative Subscribe to us on Patreon: Patreon.com/ThirdNarrative For more info on Third Narrative, visit our Linktree or uttn.netThank you for supporting this work and community!Disclaimer: This episode was recorded on May 6th, 2025. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future, because we all deserve better.
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International Series - Bekend maakt Bemind
Though this is the second episode of our international series, Amsterdam was actually the very first stop on this trip. At the Joods Museum, we sat down with city council members Sheher Khan (DENK) and Itay Garmy (Volt) — two leaders whose politics and identities often place them on opposite sides: Sheher, a Muslim and pro-Palestinian voice; Itay, a Jewish Israeli representative.And yet, in the wake of October 7th, they came together to propose a new kind of politics — one rooted in dialogue. Their joint initiative, “Bekend maakt Bemind” (“To Be Known is To Be Loved”), had been introduced earlier that year in May. Just three days after October 7, 2023, it was unanimously adopted by the Amsterdam City Council. The proposal has since been embedded in the city’s anti-discrimination strategy, with tangible actions already underway — including public dialogues at City Hall and the mayor’s residence, and programs across Amsterdam schools.In this episode, Sheher and Itay speak candidly about polarization, pain, and the quiet courage required to choose dialogue over division — and what a Third Narrative might look like when lived out through local leadership.📅 Coming up on August 3rd: Tier 3 & 4 Patreon members are invited to an exclusive live call with Dana Rentenaar (25), a Palestinian-Dutch political scientist and peace activist and one of the key people behind organizing this event. Don’t miss the chance to connect directly and hear more from behind the scenes! Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrative Subscribe to us on Patreon: Patreon.com/ThirdNarrative For more info on Third Narrative, visit our Linktree or uttn.netThank you for supporting this work and community!Disclaimer: This episode was recorded on April 9th, 2025. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future, because we all deserve better.
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International Series - B8 of Hope
We know it's been a while, and we've missed you! So much has happened since our last release, but we have great news to share soon. In the meantime, we’re thrilled to return with the first of three new episodes in our international series!In this episode, Amira sits down with our lovely guest, Mehra Rimer, in the heart of B8 of Hope to get to know both the person and the powerful work behind the organization. From grassroots initiatives to cross-border connections, Mehra brings depth, compassion, and hope to a moment that calls for all three.B8 of Hope is a Swiss-registered non-profit association promoting peace-building and transformative grassroots initiatives within both Palestinian and Israeli civil societies. “Beit” resonates with the meaning of “home” in both Arabic and Hebrew, forging a bridge between languages and cultures. The number 8 represents the eight co-founders of this extraordinary alliance, whose roots span Swiss, Canadian, Indian, Iranian, Israeli, and Palestinian backgrounds.👉 Click here to learn moreThis episode wouldn’t have been possible without the generous support of Chahut Média, who helped us capture this conversation.🎥 Check out their workWith the Israel/Iran war now under a tentative ceasefire, we release this episode with cautious hope and deep intention. We chose to lead this series with Mehra’s story, and we think you’ll understand why as soon as you tune in.📅 Coming up on July 13: Join us on Patreon for a follow-up conversation with Mehra, available exclusively to Tier 3 & 4 members.🎧 You’ll also have the chance to ask questions, so make sure to mark your calendars!Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrative Subscribe to us on Patreon: Patreon.com/ThirdNarrative For more info on Third Narrative, visit our Linktree or uttn.netThank you for supporting this work and community!Disclaimer: This episode was recorded on May 5th, 2025. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future, because we all deserve better.
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Bonus Episode (Ceasefire)
After a long hiatus, co-hosts Ibrahim and Amira return with a heartfelt bonus episode, sharing their mixed emotions about the recent hostage release and ceasefire agreement. They unpack the bittersweet reality of this moment and share exciting news about their upcoming event in London on February 6th—a fundraiser dedicated to making Season 2 of the podcast a reality. Tune in for an honest conversation and all the details!Link to event/donation: link.outsavvy.com/uttneventlondonFor more info on Third Narrative, visit our Linktree or uttn.net
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Season 1 Finale!
In our season finale, Ibrahim and Amira reflect on a year marked by loss, resilience, and the ongoing struggle in Palestine and Israel. Joined by our Unapologetic producer Evelyn, they take a moment to look back on the stories we've shared, the complexities we've navigated, and the road ahead. This episode marks not just the end of a season, but a pivotal moment of reflection for all of us at the Third Narrative team. We also share a glimpse of the next steps and the destinations we’ll be exploring in future episodes.A heartfelt thank you to our supporters who have stood with us through this journey. Your support means everything, and we need it more than ever. If you haven’t already, please consider joining us on Patreon to ensure we can continue our work and bring these important conversations to a wider audience.We look forward to connecting with you again in the next season, where we’ll continue to dive deep into the nuanced conversations that matter most.Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrativeSubscribe to us on Patreon: ThirdNarrativeFor more info on Third Narrative, visit our Linktree or uttn.netDisclaimer:This episode was released on Nov 10, 2024. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future—because we all deserve better.
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Keeping the Legacy Alive
As the one-year mark since October 7th approaches, we sat down with Yonatan Zeigen—father, social worker, and mediator. Yonatan is the son of the late Vivian Silver, a renowned Israeli peace advocate who dedicated her life to bridging the divide between Israelis and Palestinians. Tragically, Vivian was killed in the Hamas attack on Kibbutz Be'eri last year. In the aftermath of her death, Yonatan has continued her legacy, advocating for peace and justice with renewed purpose.We explore his emotional journey, from the deep loss of his mother to his determination to carry forward her mission of building partnerships between people divided by decades of violence. Yonatan shares his reflections on Israeli society, the occupation, and the possibilities for a peaceful future, offering profound insights into the personal and collective cost of conflict. Don’t miss this heartfelt and thought-provoking conversation.Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrativeSubscribe to us on Patreon: ThirdNarrativeFor more info on Third Narrative, visit our Linktree or uttn.netDisclaimer:This episode was released on Oct 4, 2024. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future—because we all deserve better.
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The Spiritual Journey of a Palestinian Woman
In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Miriam Abd El Hay, a remarkable Palestinian woman from Tira. She shares her unique journey of navigating life, identity, and spirituality. Miriam opens up about her multicultural upbringing, the challenges she faced in that complex cultural landscape, and how she has maintained her sense of self through it all. Initially pursuing a career in dentistry, a shift in her path led her to activism and the creation of a spiritual space for Palestinians. She also discusses her experience at the Arava Institute and her research internship on the environmental crisis in Gaza and its regional implications. Join us as she reflects on her life’s transitions, the struggles and triumphs along the way, and the spiritual insights that guide her ongoing pursuit of justice and truth.Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrativeSubscribe to us on Patreon: ThirdNarrativeFor more info on Third Narrative, visit our Linktree or uttn.netDisclaimer:This episode was released on Sep 19, 2024. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future—because we all deserve better.
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It Starts in the Classroom
In this compelling episode, Ibrahim sits down with Sabrin Masarweh, a Palestinian educator whose commitment to teaching and fostering dialogue in Jewish schools encountered an unexpected and painful challenge. Masarweh's journey took a dramatic turn when she was suspended from a prominent Jewish school in Israel.Her story is not just about one individual but serves as a lens to better understand the intersection of identity, education, and activism.Tune in to learn what led to Sabrin's suspension and discover the impactful work she continues to do in promoting a better future, both in the classroom and beyond.Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrativeSubscribe to us on Patreon: ThirdNarrativeFor more info on Third Narrative, visit our Linktree or uttn.net
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You Asked, Amira Answered
In this episode, we celebrate Amira's birthday by asking her questions from our audience. Some were personal, while others were more lighthearted to give you a break from our usual conversations. Here's a question for our audience - How has this podcast affected your life? Let us know in the comments. Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrativeSubscribe to us on Patreon: ThirdNarrativeFor more info on Third Narrative, visit our Linktree or uttn.net
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Ibrahim in the Hot Seat!
In this episode, we celebrate Ibrahim's birthday by asking him questions from our audience. Some were very challenging, and others made him blush. Listen till the end to see which ones did what and let us know your thoughts in the comments!Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrativeSubscribe to us on Patreon: ThirdNarrativeFor more info on Third Narrative, visit our Linktree or uttn.net
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Activist Burnout
So much time has passed by and we’re still in the same horrible, indescribable situation. In this episode, Amira and Ibrahim talk about the hopelessness that even the Peace-building community can fall victim to. Even in these very dark times, and even when it seems impossible, we must continue to fight for the future. Creating space for these natural doubts allows us to digest our feelings which fuels us to keep going. We thank you for your continued support!Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrativeSubscribe to us on Patreon: ThirdNarrativeFor more info on Third Narrative, visit our Linktree or uttn.netDisclaimer:This episode was released on Sep 5, 2024. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future—because we all deserve better.
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Solution Series - Part 1
In this very special episode, we bring the first of three guests we will have on the show, who will present their solution to the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict. This time, we are honored to host Yisrael Piekrash - Chief Executive Officer - Anahnu Movement - a movement committed to solving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict with an unusual vision of the Two-State Solution. Yisrael, who was brought up in the Zionist-Religious community and established the movement, has concluded that Palestinian national rights are crucial for the future of Israel's existence. Join us to hear more from Yisrael about his community, and his path that led him to commit to solving the conflict once and for all. Do you agree with his vision? Share your thoughts in the comments!For more info about the Anahnu Movement, check out their website here: https://www.anahnu.org.il/home-enFollow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrativeSubscribe to us on Patreon: ThirdNarrativeFor more info on Third Narrative, visit our Linktree or uttn.netDisclaimer:This episode was released on July 18, 2024. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future—because we all deserve better.
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Let's Talk Protests
In this long-awaited episode, Amira and Ibrahim tackle the complex and multifaceted topic of protests! They explore demonstrations and university encampments across the United States and Europe, offering insights shaped by the media they’ve encountered. They also reflect on the ongoing protests in Israel—both those supporting and opposing the war—as well as the situation in Gaza.Please note that their perspectives are shaped by a limited lens of the media in the land and may not fully capture the reality of these protests on the ground.Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrativeSubscribe to us on Patreon: ThirdNarrativeFor more info on Third Narrative, visit our Linktree or uttn.netDisclaimer:This episode was released on July 4, 2024. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future—because we all deserve better.
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Prepared for his Parent's Murder?!
In this episode, Amira and Ibrahim are joined by their dear friend Maoz Inon, an award-winning Israeli social entrepreneur and peace activist. Maoz’s life took a profound turn when his parents became some of the first identified victims of the October 7th massacre. Through his heartbreaking journey, Maoz has emerged as one of the most profound voices fighting for justice and peace. . Maoz shares how he has come to believe that true security and liberation are deeply intertwined and why oppression can never be a sustainable path. Tune in to hear his story and the powerful lessons he’s learned along the way.Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrativeSubscribe to us on Patreon: ThirdNarrativeFor more info on Third Narrative, visit our Linktree or uttn.netDisclaimer:This episode was released on June 13, 2024. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future—because we all deserve better.
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Biases and a Fight for a Better Future
In this episode, hosts Amira and Ibrahim reflect on the sensitive and challenging period that both Palestinians and Israelis have been enduring. They share updates on their recent activities and delve into discussions on topics like objectivity, biases, Nakba, Independence Day, and more. The Third Narrative is not about presenting a neutral or unbiased perspective; rather, it is a space of radical transparency. The hosts unapologetically express their views on the events shaping their lives and invite their community to do the same—always within the bounds of respect and with the shared aim of improving the lives of people from the river to the sea.Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrativeSubscribe to us on Patreon: ThirdNarrativeFor more info on Third Narrative, visit our Linktree or uttn.netDisclaimer:This episode was released on June 6, 2024. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future—because we all deserve better.
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Special Episode - Nakba Stories
In this special video episode, we bring you powerful personal stories from the generation that lived through the Nakba—a tragedy whose impact remains ongoing and unacknowledged. The atrocities faced by Palestinians today are a stark reminder that the Nakba did not end in 1948; its pain and consequences persist, affecting every generation.We feature three extraordinary women who share their deeply moving accounts of the 1948 war and the Palestinian Nakba, recounting the experiences they and their families endured. Their stories are not just history—they are a mirror to the injustices that continue to unfold.To our Palestinian audience, this is a heartfelt reminder: we must preserve our grandparents’ stories and safeguard our history. The Nakba’s legacy lives on, and if we don’t document and pass these narratives down, they risk being erased forever.Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrativeSubscribe to us on Patreon: ThirdNarrativeFor more info on Third Narrative, visit our Linktree or uttn.net
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A Palestinian-Ethiopian Minorities Discussion
In this episode, hosts Amira and Ibrahim are joined by the incredible Ashager Araro, an Ethiopian Jewish activist with a vibrant spirit and boundless charisma. Ashager founded Battae, an Ethiopian heritage center where she highlights the rich Ethiopian Jewish story through art, music, food, and personal narratives.Amira, Ibrahim, and Ashager delve into the shared and unique experiences of their communities as minorities in Israel, while Ashager takes us on a powerful journey through her culture, story, and community.Trigger Warning: This episode contains graphic descriptions of violence, death, and suicide, which may be distressing for some listeners.Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrativeSubscribe to us on Patreon: ThirdNarrativeFor more info on Third Narrative, visit our Linktree or uttn.netDisclaimer:This episode was released on April 5, 2024. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What stays consistent is our commitment to a just and united future—because we all deserve better.
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An Ethiopian Jewish story
In this episode, hosts Amira and Ibrahim are joined by the incredible Ashager Araro, an Ethiopian Jewish activist with a vibrant spirit and boundless charisma. Ashager founded Battae, an Ethiopian heritage center where she highlights the rich Ethiopian Jewish story through art, music, food, and personal narratives.Amira, Ibrahim, and Ashager delve into the shared and unique experiences of their communities as minorities in Israel, while Ashager takes us on a powerful journey through her culture, story, and community.Trigger Warning: This episode contains graphic descriptions of violence, death, and suicide, which may be distressing for some listeners.Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrativeSubscribe to us on Patreon: ThirdNarrativeFor more info on Third Narrative, visit our Linktree or uttn.netDisclaimer:This episode was released on April 5, 2024. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What stays consistent is our commitment to a just and united future—because we all deserve better.
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Ramadan Kareem!
In this episode, hosts Amira and Ibrahim explore the significance of the holy month of Ramadan, sharing personal experiences with their families and reflecting on the deeper meaning of this time. They discuss the traditions and practices that bring families together during Ramadan, but also address the painful reality that the land, which holds immense potential to unite people of all religions and celebrate diverse holidays, has instead become a source of fuel for hate and oppression. The hosts offer their insights on the political ramifications of this sacred month and the missed opportunity for peace it represents.We wish all our listeners a Ramadan Kareem, and to those fasting, may you have a meaningful and easy fast.Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrativeSubscribe to us on Patreon: ThirdNarrativeFor more info on Third Narrative, visit our Linktree or uttn.netDisclaimer:This episode was released on March 26, 2024. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future—because we all deserve better.
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DEAL NOW!
In this episode, hosts Amira and Ibrahim are joined by Alana Zeitchik, an American-Israeli advocate for the hostages taken by Hamas on October 7th. Six of Alana's cousins, including three young children, were kidnapped from Kibbutz Nir Oz to Gaza. While five have returned, Alana's cousin's husband, David Cunio, remains captive. Alana believes the voices of the hostages and their families have been muffled by extreme voices seeking revenge. She is a strong advocate for a deal that values life above all and emphasizes that this must be the path forward."For most of the world, days and time have passed, but for us, it's still October 7th, and in Gaza, the war still rages on."Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrativeSubscribe to us on Patreon: ThirdNarrativeFor more info on Third Narrative, visit our Linktree or uttn.netDisclaimer:This episode was released on March 18, 2024. The facts presented in this video reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with this content does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What stays consistent is our commitment to a just and united future—because we all deserve better.
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A Gazan American Speaks | Part 2
This episode is part two of the hosts' conversation with analyst and activist Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib. In this episode, Ahmed tells the ins and outs of his experience attending UNRWA schools and gives his own analysis of Hamas and the current war. Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrativeSubscribe to us on Patreon: ThirdNarrativeFor more info on Third Narrative, visit our Linktree or uttn.net
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A Gazan American Speaks | Part 1
On this episode of Unapologetic, Amira and Ibrahim host guest Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib, a Gazan American analyst who has recently gained popularity for his anti-Hamas sentiments in addition to his honest criticism of Israel. Join our hosts and their guest as they delve into the upbringing and brutal reality of being a Gazan. Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrativeSubscribe to us on Patreon: ThirdNarrativeFor more info on Third Narrative, visit our Linktree or uttn.net
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Unapologetically From the Yarra River to the Mediterranean Sea
This episode was originally recorded and published by the podcast, From the Yarra River to the Mediterranean Sea. In this episode, Ibrahim and Amira join Itay and Hannah on their podcast and discuss together terms like boycott, resistance, and whether or not "complete justice" among others.Follow From the Yarra River to the Mediterranean Sea on Spotify: HereFollow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrativeSubscribe to us on Patreon: ThirdNarrativeFor more info on Third Narrative, visit our Linktree or uttn.net
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The Druze community: Dynamics, Challenges, and Grievances
This time on Unapologetic, Ibrahim and Amira are joined by their first-ever Druze guest, Mansour Ashkar. In this episode, Mansour shares his personal experience as part of the Druze community in Israel, his reality and challenges. While his insights are interesting, we encourage our listeners to engage with more Druze voices and further explore their history, culture, and religion. As a minority in our region, the Druze people deserve a better life, and it's essential to recognize and support their rights and dignity. Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of this fascinating community!Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrativeSubscribe to us on Patreon: ThirdNarrativeFor more info on Third Narrative, visit our Linktree or uttn.netDisclaimer:This episode was released on June 6, 2024. The facts presented in this video reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What stays consistent is our commitment to a just and united future—because we all deserve better.
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Meet the Druze Community
This time on Unapologetic, Ibrahim and Amira are joined by their first-ever Druze guest, Mansour Ashkar. In this episode, Mansour shares his personal experience as part of the Druze community in Israel, his reality and challenges. While his insights are interesting, we encourage our listeners to engage with more Druze voices and further explore their history, culture, and religion. As a minority in our region, the Druze people deserve a better life, and it's essential to recognize and support their rights and dignity. Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of this fascinating community!Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrativeSubscribe to us on Patreon: ThirdNarrativeFor more info on Third Narrative, visit our Linktree or uttn.netDisclaimer:This episode was released on June 6, 2024. The facts presented in this video reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What stays consistent is our commitment to a just and united future—because we all deserve better.
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Q&A Pt. 2 with Special Guest from the Audience
In this episode, Ibrahim and Amira are joined by a special guest, Adam Chitayat, an American-Jewish film director. Adam takes the role of audience representative, delivering thought-provoking questions submitted by our listeners. Tune in for a dynamic conversation that bridges diverse views and experiences.Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrativeSubscribe to us on Patreon: ThirdNarrativeFor more info on Third Narrative, visit our LinktreeFor more info on Third Narrative, visit our Linktree or uttn.netDisclaimer:This episode was released on January 12, 2024. The facts presented in this video reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with this content does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What stays consistent is our commitment to a just and united future—because we all deserve better.
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Hamze Awawde, an Unapologetic Voice from the West Bank
In this episode, Ibrahim and Amira host their first guest, Palestinian peace activist Hamze Awawdeh. Hamze shares his story and upbringing in the West Bank, reality and challenges, and his decision to devote his life and career towards peace advocacy.Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrativeSubscribe to us on Patreon: ThirdNarrativeFor more info on Third Narrative, visit our Linktree or uttn.net
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Your Questions Answered
In this episode, Ibrahim and Amira reflect on their activism and delve into questions from listeners about the complex realities they navigate. The hosts share their personal opinions, experiences, and perspectives, offering a glimpse into their lived realities. They also emphasize the importance of seeking out diverse voices and challenging comfort zones—encouraging listeners to engage with perspectives that broaden understanding, even if they may feel uncomfortable.Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrativeSubscribe to us on Patreon: ThirdNarrativeFor more info on Third Narrative, visit our Linktree or uttn.netDisclaimer:This video was released on Dec 21, 2023. The facts presented in this video reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future—because we all deserve better.
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Let's Talk Terminologies
In this episode, Ibrahim and Amira explore the power of language and the complexities of terminologies in shaping conversations. They delve into the dangers of relying on labels and divisive language, emphasizing that the goal of dialogue should not be to "win" a debate but to foster understanding and empathy. They discuss how certain terms can influence perceptions and create barriers, while true conversation can bridge divides and open pathways to meaningful change.Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrativeSubscribe to us on Patreon: ThirdNarrativeFor more info on Third Narrative, visit our Linktree or uttn.netDisclaimer:This video was released on Dec 2, 2023. The facts presented in this video reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future—because we all deserve better.
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The "Day after" - What Happens Next?
In this episode, Ibrahim and Amira discuss the challenges facing the peacebuilding community, focusing on what they think has failed and the necessary changes that must occur for a genuine peace process to flourish. Both hosts bring their own analysis and perspectives on the steps they believe must happen for real change. They explore how the word "peace" has been hijacked and argue that it must be reclaimed to hold its true meaning. Additionally, they emphasize the importance of religion in the peace movement, recognizing its power to unite communities. The hosts also reflect on the power dynamics that have shaped the peace process and the need to address these inequalities for any lasting change.Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrativeSubscribe to us on Patreon: ThirdNarrativeFor more info on Third Narrative, visit our Linktree or uttn.netDisclaimer:This episode was released on Nov 20, 2023. The facts presented in this video reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future—because we all deserve better.
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Two-State Delusion
This episode sheds light on the series of events that have led to the current status quo. The hosts examine the failed peace process attempts, the mistakes made by both sides, and the missed opportunities that prevented the realization of a Two-State Solution. The hosts make it clear that they do not endorse any singular solution but aim to highlight the complexities and realities that have shaped the present-day. Regardless of the path forward, the fundamental needs of both peoples—liberation and safety—must be met for any lasting peace to be possible.Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrativeSubscribe to us on Patreon: ThirdNarrativeFor more info on Third Narrative, visit our Linktree or uttn.netDisclaimer:This episode was released on Nov 14, 2023. The facts presented in this video reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future—because we all deserve better.
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Identities Unraveled
In this episode, Ibrahim and Amira open up about their personal journeys, navigating the complexities of their multifaceted identities. They share insights into the unique experiences of their respective communities—'48 Palestinians and '67 Palestinians—offering a window into the realities that shaped their lives. Through their stories, they explore how their different backgrounds and experiences have led them to work together for a more just and united future.Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrativeSubscribe to us on Patreon: ThirdNarrativeFor more info on Third Narrative, visit our Linktree or uttn.netDisclaimer:This episode was released on Nov 8, 2023. The facts presented in this video reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future—because we all deserve better.
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Pilot - A New Narrative is Born
In this inaugural episode, activists Amira and Ibrahim introduce Unapologetic: The Third Narrative, a Palestinian-led initiative aimed at rejecting hate and fostering understanding between Palestinians and Israelis. With a focus on creating space for people to be unapologetically themselves, this initiative works to humanize experiences and reclaim the Palestinian narrative. Drawing from their lived experiences as Palestinians with Israeli citizenship, they explore the complexities of the ongoing struggle, while also urging the international community to embrace a more inclusive approach to advocacy, one that works toward a just future for everyone.Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrativeSubscribe to us on Patreon: ThirdNarrativeFor more info on Third Narrative, visit our Linktree or uttn.netDisclaimer:This episode was released on oct 29, 2023. The facts presented in this video reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future—because we all deserve better.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
UTTN is an independent podcast created and hosted by Palestinian activists Amira Mohammed (‘67) and Ibrahim Abu Ahmad (‘48). For decades, narratives on Palestine and Israel have been deeply polarized, fueling division and sustaining inequalities that block justice and peace. A Third Narrative is essential to break this cycle. It fosters an inclusive community for those seeking real solutions and committed to nonviolence. It envisions a future that doesn’t just mediate between sides but transforms the conversation—paving the way for meaningful change.
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