Verdicts and Vogue

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Verdicts and Vogue

Join Attorney Cristina Perez Hesano in Verdicts & Vogue, a podcast that brings together the world of law and lifestyle in an insightful and engaging way. Episodes feature interviews with top legal professionals as they explore pressing issues in various areas of law and precedents. This podcast goes beyond the courtroom—Cristina and her guests dive into the realities of owning a law firm, being a business owner, and navigating the challenges faced by women in business and working moms.

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    Cristina Perez & Melissa June: Leading with Purpose, Living with Alignment

    In the Season 2 premiere of Verdicts & Vogue, host Cristina Perez Hesano sits down with Melissa June for one of the most raw and inspiring conversations yet. What starts with laughter over Melissa’s famous “feelings wheel” quickly turns into a deep discussion on emotions, ambition, burnout, healing, and authenticity.Melissa, a performance and alignment coach, explains how the feelings wheel helps people identify emotions beyond the basics like happy, sad, or angry. She believes vulnerability creates true connection, especially among women. Cristina admits that while she understands emotions in her work as a trial attorney, expressing her own feelings has always been difficult.Melissa shares her journey from legal and marketing professional to coach. She spent years constantly “on,” attending conferences, building relationships, and chasing success. As a wife, mother of three, and high performer, she became consumed by the need to achieve and be needed. She openly discusses how hustle culture affected her marriage, family, and mental health.Her life changed in 2021 when she was diagnosed with breast cancer. Even after a bilateral mastectomy and reconstruction, she kept working, planning events, and attending conferences. She scheduled chemo around work obligations until her body forced her to stop. After suffering a blood clot and an emergency hospitalization while battling cancer and COVID alone, Melissa was finally forced into stillness. In the hospital, she discovered guided meditation, which she credits with saving her life.Meditation helped Melissa unravel the identity she built around achievement and validation. She realized her life, marriage, and career were not what she truly wanted. After chemotherapy, she divorced her husband, left her job, and started over. She also reveals the darkest point of her life, battling severe depression and suicidal thoughts after chemo.Cristina deeply relates to Melissa’s story. The two bond over the pressure women face to excel professionally while also meeting expectations of being perfect wives, mothers, and leaders. Cristina reflects on how much of her life was spent performing perfection and constantly chasing “more.”Melissa’s advice for women at a crossroads is simple but powerful: stop and sit in the discomfort. Instead of distracting ourselves with work or obligations, she encourages people to listen to the sensations in their body and get curious about what those feelings are trying to say. She discusses the power of silent meditation retreats, including her own 10 day Vipassana experience.The conversation also touches on leadership and emotional intelligence in high pressure industries like law. Melissa explains the importance of communication, active listening, and understanding emotional triggers. She encourages leaders to know their team’s goals, strengths, and aspirations to create healthy, aligned workplaces.Cristina shares a story about confronting sexism in the legal field and reflects on how far she has come in owning her confidence and authenticity. Together, they discuss liberation and what it means to stop performing for others and start living in alignment.Melissa closes by sharing her work as a performance and alignment coach, helping individuals and businesses clarify their mission, values, and partnerships to create meaningful impact.This powerful season opener reminds listeners that success without alignment can feel empty, and life’s biggest breakdowns can lead to the greatest breakthroughs. Through laughter, tears, and honesty, Cristina and Melissa encourage listeners to confront their feelings, redefine success, and embrace healing and purpose.

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    Cristina Perez & Katherine Anderson Part 2: Owning Your Path and Redefining Success

    In Part 2 of Verdicts & Vogue, Cristina Perez Hesano continues her conversation with Kathryn Anderson, diving deeper into what it truly means to step away from comfort and build a career with intention. This episode moves beyond the initial decision to leave Big Law and focuses on what happens next. It is about growth, discipline, and learning how to navigate the realities of high level litigation while staying grounded in purpose.Katey reflects on her early success in personal injury law, including a powerful case involving a young client who suffered severe injuries in a shooting. What made this case stand out was not just the outcome, but the strategy behind it. Through detailed research and persistence, she identified additional theories of liability, including the use of dram shop law, which ultimately helped push the case toward resolution. The discussion highlights how preparation, creativity, and teamwork can significantly impact the outcome of a case and the life of a client. The conversation also explores the contrast between different areas of law. Katey shares her experience transitioning from the more collaborative and close knit environment of bankruptcy law into the fast paced and often adversarial world of personal injury litigation. Cristina and Katey openly discuss the challenges that come with this shift, including difficult opposing counsel, delays in resolution, and the constant need to advocate for clients who are often overlooked or misunderstood.A major theme throughout the episode is the process behind success. Katey explains that her approach is not about moving quickly, but about being thorough. She spends time identifying every possible weakness in her cases, asking herself where she could lose, and preparing for those moments before they happen. This level of preparation allows her to walk into court with confidence, knowing she has done the work necessary to support her arguments. Beyond the legal work, the episode brings a personal and relatable perspective. Cristina and Katey share their experiences balancing demanding careers with family life, as well as the pressures and expectations placed on women in the legal profession. They speak candidly about how their perspectives have evolved over time, and how their partnership works because of their differences. Cristina describes herself as more structured and reserved, while Katey brings a level of openness and authenticity that creates balance both inside and outside the courtroom.One of the most memorable moments from the episode highlights how personal and professional worlds often collide. During a deposition, a client was required to bring her newborn baby due to personal circumstances. What could have been seen as a disruption instead became a powerful example of adaptability and compassion, as the legal work continued while ensuring the client felt supported throughout the process.As the episode comes to a close, Katey shares a defining realization. For the first time in her career, she has a clear vision of where she is going. Stepping away from a structured environment allowed her to take control of her future and build something that aligns with her values. Instead of contributing to someone else’s vision, she is now creating her own path with purpose and clarity.Part 2 is a conversation about ownership, resilience, and growth. It is a reminder that success is not always immediate, but it is built through preparation, consistency, and the willingness to take risks. It is about trusting the process, embracing challenges, and understanding that the most meaningful work often comes from stepping into the unknown and building something that is truly your own.

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    Cristina Perez & Katherine Anderson Part 1: From Big Law to Building Your Own Path

    In this episode of Verdicts & Vogue, Cristina Perez Hesano sits down with attorney Kathryn “Katie” Anderson for a candid, unfiltered conversation that goes far beyond the courtroom. This episode explores the realities of building a legal career, navigating personal challenges, and redefining success on your own terms.Cristina and Katie open up about their decade-long journey from colleagues in bankruptcy law to becoming trusted friends and business collaborators. What began as a professional connection evolved through shared life experiences, including navigating career transitions, personal hardships, and the emotional weight of practicing law. Their conversation highlights how loyalty, trust, and timing play a role not only in friendships but in leadership and business growth.Katie shares her background working in high-level federal and bankruptcy litigation, including her time in large national law firms, where she developed strong technical skills but also experienced the limitations of corporate structure. The discussion dives into the tension many attorneys face between stability and autonomy, and what ultimately pushed Katie to step away from big law to start her own firm. Her leap into entrepreneurship reflects a broader theme of trusting instincts, embracing risk, and pursuing a more meaningful way to practice law.A powerful portion of the episode focuses on Katie’s personal experience with traumatic brain injury within her own family. This life-altering event reshaped her perspective as an attorney, giving her a deeper understanding of the emotional and psychological impact clients face. It also highlights the human side of personal injury law—where cases are not just about legal strategy, but about real people navigating life-changing circumstances. Cristina and Katie also discuss their transition into working on catastrophic personal injury cases together, combining their strengths in litigation and strategy to deliver meaningful outcomes for clients. Their dynamic showcases how complementary skill sets and aligned values can create powerful results, both professionally and personally.This episode is ultimately about growth—growth as lawyers, as business owners, and as individuals. It touches on leadership, resilience, and the importance of building a team and environment that reflects your values. For anyone navigating career decisions, entrepreneurship, or the pressures of high-performance industries, this conversation offers insight, relatability, and a refreshing level of honesty.Stay tuned for Part 2, where the conversation continues into building a firm on your own terms, trusting your decision-making, and defining what true partnership really looks like.

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    Cristina Perez & Matt Fendon Part 2: Rebuilding Through Faith, Finding Purpose, and Leading with Humility

    In Part 2 of Verdicts & Vogue, Cristina Perez Hesano continues her conversation with Matt Fendon of Matt Fendon Law Group, diving deeper into the personal journey behind success and what it truly takes to rebuild your life when everything changes. This episode moves beyond titles and achievements, focusing on growth, faith, and the internal work that often goes unseen.Picking up from Part 1, Matt reflects on a time when his firm was growing and everything looked successful on the outside, yet internally, he felt empty and disconnected. Following the breakdown of his marriage, he experienced a period of loneliness that quickly replaced the initial sense of freedom. What once felt like independence turned into isolation, forcing him to confront deeper questions about purpose, identity, and direction. That turning point led him to seek something greater, which he ultimately found through faith. Matt shares how being introduced to Trinity Church created a new path for him, one centered on learning, structure, and connection. For the first time, he began reading the Bible with intention, taking notes, studying verses, and building a daily routine around it. This practice became a foundation that brought him peace, balance, and clarity, replacing the uncertainty he once carried. Cristina and Matt connect through their shared experiences with faith, discussing how spirituality can provide grounding during life’s most difficult transitions. One of the most impactful lessons Matt emphasizes is forgiveness. Learning to let go of resentment and extend grace, regardless of the situation, allowed him to move forward without carrying the weight of the past. This shift not only impacted his personal life, but also how he approaches leadership and relationships today.As the conversation evolves, Matt opens up about how his lifestyle has changed. The distractions, late nights, and social habits that once filled his schedule have been replaced with intentional living. He now prioritizes time at home, personal growth, and meaningful relationships, including his current partner who shares his values and attends church with him. This alignment has brought a new level of stability and fulfillment into his life.A major theme throughout the episode is humility. Matt candidly reflects on how success once led him to become overly confident and lose sight of who he was. Through this period of rebuilding, he rediscovered the importance of staying grounded and self-aware. Cristina reinforces this perspective, highlighting that true leadership is not just about growth in business, but growth as a person.The conversation also transitions into practical advice for those navigating similar challenges. Matt encourages individuals to do everything they can to preserve relationships when possible, but to also move forward with intention and grace when necessary. He stresses the importance of avoiding destructive habits and instead finding healthier ways to heal and grow.On the business side, Matt shares valuable insight into building and scaling a law firm. He emphasizes the importance of strategic planning, mentorship, and consistency. Success, he explains, is not built overnight. It requires discipline, strong client service, and a clear brand that sets you apart. Cristina adds to this by discussing goal setting and the importance of being intentional in both networking and professional growth.The episode closes with a rapid-fire segment that reveals Matt’s current mindset. From trusting his instincts to defining success as an ongoing journey, his perspective reflects continuous growth. He describes success as building something from nothing and consistently pushing it to the next level, never becoming complacent.

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    Cristina Perez & Matt Fendon: Leadership in Law, Building a Firm, and Rising Through Lifes Challenges

    In this episode of Verdicts & Vogue, host Cristina Perez Hesano sits down with Arizona attorney Matt Fendon, founder of the Matt Fendon Law Group, for a candid and insightful conversation about leadership in law, leadership in business, and the personal resilience required to navigate both.Matt shares the story of his journey from growing up in Phoenix and studying communications to eventually entering the legal field through an unexpected path. Before becoming an attorney, he worked closely with his father—an influential workers’ compensation lawyer in Arizona—first as a paralegal and later as a partner in the family firm. Those early years provided a firsthand education in the realities of building and managing a legal practice, showing him that success in law requires more than legal knowledge alone. As Matt explains, law school teaches theory, but leadership in a firm requires business acumen, relationship building, and the ability to develop systems that allow a firm to grow.Throughout the conversation, Matt discusses how his MBA and business mindset helped him transform the firm’s infrastructure and expand its reach within the legal community. He shares practical insights into networking, relationship development, and the discipline required to build meaningful professional connections—emphasizing that leadership often begins with showing up, engaging with others, and consistently following through.But leadership is not built without adversity. Matt opens up about one of the most challenging chapters of his career: a difficult family partnership breakup that ultimately led him to leave the firm and start over. What began as a painful separation became an opportunity to build something new. In 2018, he launched the Matt Fendon Law Group, creating a practice centered on structure, teamwork, and clear operational processes that would allow the firm to grow sustainably.The episode also explores the human side of leadership. Matt reflects on the personal changes that came alongside his professional transformation, including family challenges, navigating divorce after more than two decades of marriage, and the emotional toll that major life transitions can bring. Through those experiences, he learned the importance of resilience, self-reflection, and finding purpose beyond titles or achievements.Cristina and Matt also dive into the realities of workers’ compensation law—an area often misunderstood but essential to protecting injured workers. From explaining how the system operates to discussing one of the largest workers’ compensation settlements in Arizona history, Matt offers a rare look into the strategy, advocacy, and persistence required to secure meaningful outcomes for clients.At its core, this episode is about growth. It is about what happens when lawyers evolve into leaders, when professionals transform challenges into opportunity, and when personal setbacks become the foundation for stronger businesses and stronger people.Through honesty, experience, and perspective, Matt Fendon’s story reminds listeners that leadership is not defined by titles or accolades—it is defined by perseverance, adaptability, and the courage to keep building even when the path forward is uncertain.

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    Cristina Perez & Erika Gelfand Part 2: Standing Your Ground, Navigating Bias, and Growing Through The Practice of Law

    In this episode of Verdicts & Vogue, Cristina Perez Hesano sits down with attorney Erica Gelfand for a candid and insightful conversation about the realities of practicing law, navigating the legal industry as women, and the personal growth that comes with building a legal career. The discussion blends professional experiences with personal reflections, offering listeners an honest look into the challenges and rewards of life in the courtroom and beyond.Cristina begins by sharing a recent experience during a deposition where opposing attorneys treated her with open hostility, questioning her competence and speaking disrespectfully both during and outside of the proceeding. The situation highlighted an ongoing issue that many female attorneys still encounter: being underestimated or treated differently because of gender. The conversation explores how moments like these can be frustrating and discouraging, but also serve as reminders of the resilience required to succeed in the legal field. Erica relates with her own story of being underestimated during a wrongful death case, where opposing counsel assumed she lacked experience and openly spoke about strategy while believing she was not listening. Ultimately, the case resolved successfully, reinforcing the idea that perseverance and preparation often speak louder than assumptions.Throughout the episode, both attorneys emphasize the importance of mentorship and learning through experience. Erica discusses how she has approached her career by stepping into challenging opportunities even when she initially felt uncertain. From taking on her first wrongful death case to handling complex immigration matters she had never worked on before, she explains how pushing through discomfort allowed her to develop confidence and expand her practice. Cristina echoes this perspective, describing how working alongside experienced attorneys early in her career helped her develop courtroom skills and sharpen her litigation abilities.The conversation also touches on the emotional and mental challenges of practicing law, including imposter syndrome, stress, and the pressure of representing clients during difficult moments in their lives. Both women acknowledge that even seasoned attorneys experience doubt, but they have learned to view that doubt as motivation to prepare more thoroughly and continue improving their craft. They also discuss the importance of maintaining humility, strong client relationships, and a service-oriented mindset as key pillars for long-term success.As the episode moves into a rapid-fire segment, Erica reflects on the sacrifices made while building her firm, recalling the early days when she managed every aspect of the business herself and celebrated even small milestones like handling ten active cases. She credits her support system—particularly her family and mentors—for encouraging her to take risks and pursue opportunities for growth.The episode concludes on an uplifting note as Cristina and Erica discuss their goals for the future. Both attorneys express a desire to continue growing their practices while also taking time to appreciate their accomplishments. They emphasize the importance of recognizing wins, learning from setbacks, and continuing to support other women in the legal profession.Overall, the conversation highlights resilience, mentorship, and the evolving landscape for women in law, reminding listeners that success often comes from persistence, collaboration, and the willingness to embrace new challenges.

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    Cristina Perez & Erica Gelfand: Owning Your Voice, Pivoting with Purpose, and Breaking Bias in Law

    In this powerful and deeply personal episode of Verdicts & Vogue, Cristina Perez sits down with attorney Erica Gelfand for an unfiltered conversation about gender bias in the legal profession, the emotional toll of immigration law, motherhood, and the courage it takes to pivot your career.What began as an impromptu phone call between colleagues quickly turned into a much larger conversation about what women—especially younger women lawyers—face in male-dominated courtrooms. Erica opens up about being labeled “aggressive” or “combative” simply for disagreeing with opposing counsel. Cristina reflects on hearing the same words used against her throughout her career, particularly by older male attorneys who conflate confidence with hostility when it comes from a woman. Together, they explore how long it takes to unlearn the instinct to internalize those labels and how stepping into your “I don’t give a crap” era can be both freeing and necessary.Erica shares her professional journey, beginning as the daughter of Soviet Jewish refugees who came to the United States in 1979 with the help of the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society. Inspired by her family’s story, she pursued immigration law with the intention of working in international human rights. After earning her law degree in 2011, she even went back for an LLM in international and comparative law in Washington, D.C., hoping to work with the United Nations. While that plan didn’t unfold as expected, the experience shaped her worldview and commitment to service.Her years in immigration law were meaningful—but emotionally exhausting. Erica discusses representing families from the Middle East during the 2017 travel ban, including clients who were turned away from airports despite having approved visas. She describes the heartbreak of having no answers for families looking to her for hope, the late nights coordinating across time zones, and the mental strain of practicing in a constantly shifting political landscape. Eventually, the weight of it all—combined with pregnancy and new motherhood—led her to step away from full-time practice.The episode also dives into the realities of working motherhood. Cristina and Erica speak candidly about childcare, guilt, village-building, and the pressure women face to prove they can “do it all.” From trial appearances weeks after giving birth to navigating nanny interviews and school transitions, their stories reflect the layered responsibilities women carry while building businesses and legal careers.In 2019, Erica pivoted into personal injury law—an area she once resisted despite her father’s encouragement. Growing up in her dad’s chiropractic clinic, she had always heard, “Take accident cases.” When she finally gave it a chance, she realized she was still helping people—just in a different way. She found satisfaction in negotiation, advocacy, and guiding injured clients through complex systems.This episode is a conversation about resilience, reinvention, and reclaiming your voice. It’s about choosing growth over burnout, redefining what helping people looks like, and standing firm in who you are—even when the courtroom tries to tell you otherwise.If you’ve ever been underestimated, mislabeled, or forced to pivot in order to protect your peace, this episode will resonate deeply.

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    Cristina Perez & Lorie Valdez Part 2: Success Doesnt Come By Itself

    In this episode of Verdicts & Vogue, Cristina Perez sits down with Lorie Valdez for an honest and inspiring conversation about faith, discipline, marriage, leadership, and what it truly takes to build long-term success in the personal injury industry.Lorie shares that her journey has never been accidental. From the very beginning, she has operated with intention. Every January, she creates a clear plan for the year, outlining specific goals she intends to hit before December ends. Year after year, she has not only met those goals but exceeded them. She attributes that consistency to preparation, organization, and the willingness to go after what she wants instead of waiting for opportunity to arrive. As she puts it, success does not come to you. You must go to it.Faith is the foundation of everything she does. Raised by a father who was a minister, Lorie learned early that faith is not just something you speak about but something you apply daily. She believes in declarations, in speaking life instead of negativity, and in the power of words. For her, faith is not separate from business. It fuels her mindset, her discipline, and her resilience. When challenges arise, she leans into that foundation rather than away from it.The conversation also explores what it means to build a thriving career while maintaining a strong marriage. Lorie and her husband have been married for more than twenty-five years, and she openly acknowledges that longevity requires trust, shared values, and continuous effort. Being in the public eye within the personal injury space brings unique pressures, but she emphasizes that trust and alignment in faith create stability. She speaks candidly about balancing independence with partnership, appreciating a spouse who supports her ambition while quietly providing strength behind the scenes.Professionally, Lorie reflects on her evolution over the past two decades. When she first began at StandUp MRI, she could not have imagined that she would one day become President of Business Development and be on track to lead the company. Her rise did not happen overnight. It required hard work, sacrifice, and the humility to grow through challenges. She recognizes that growth often comes through difficulty and that true success involves helping others along the way.She also shares pride in her family, particularly watching her son grow into a young man attending the University of Arizona. Becoming an empty nester has brought a new season of reflection and gratitude. For Lorie, personal success means nothing without strong relationships and a family rooted in faith.Throughout the episode, listeners see a leader who blends ambition with heart. Lorie’s story is not about shortcuts or overnight wins. It is about vision, preparation, consistency, and unwavering belief. Whether discussing business development strategies, long-term marriage, or stepping into executive leadership, she makes one thing clear: sustained success is built on faith, discipline, and the courage to keep pushing forward.This episode is a powerful reminder that leadership is not just about titles. It is about character, commitment, and the quiet habits that shape extraordinary results over time.

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    Cristina Perez & Lorie Valdez: Building Relationships That Shape the Personal Injury Industry

    In this episode of Verdicts & Vogue, host Cristina Perez Hesano sits down with longtime industry leader Lorie Valdez, President of Business Development at Standup MRI, for an honest and inspiring conversation about growth, resilience, and building meaningful connections in the personal injury space.The episode opens with a candid discussion about stepping into the spotlight, as Lorie shares her journey into podcasting and how learning to relax and truly listen transformed her interviewing style. Inspired by her father’s background in radio and television, she reflects on how a simple idea evolved into her own podcast platform designed to bridge relationships between attorneys, doctors, and providers. Her philosophy is rooted in creating win-win opportunities and highlighting others, a mindset that has shaped her career and reputation across Arizona’s legal and medical communities.Lorie takes listeners back to the beginning of her career, sharing how she started from the ground up as a receptionist in a personal injury law firm and gradually learned every layer of the industry. From pre-litigation work to public adjusting, she recalls the early experiences that helped her understand both the legal and medical sides of personal injury cases. She candidly describes the challenges of adapting to new roles, including her transition into the medical field, where she initially felt out of her comfort zone but ultimately discovered a passion for patient care and collaboration.The conversation highlights the importance of business development as more than marketing. Lorie explains that true growth requires consistency, leadership, and a genuine belief in the product or service you represent. She emphasizes that success comes from connection rather than communication alone, encouraging listeners to find common ground and build authentic relationships that benefit everyone involved.Listeners also get an inside look at the evolution of Standup MRI and how Lorie helped shape its growth. When she joined in 2008, the company had no established lien department or personal injury referral framework. Through persistence, education, and countless door-knocking moments, she introduced new processes, helped providers understand imaging needs, and expanded access to advanced MRI technology. Over time, her efforts contributed to the expansion of multiple locations and advanced imaging capabilities designed to improve patient outcomes, including options for claustrophobic patients and specialized injury evaluations.Cristina and Lorie dive into what it really takes to build something sustainable in business: vision, faith, and the willingness to keep going even when progress feels slow. Lorie shares that early setbacks and quiet seasons were part of the process, but staying consistent and believing in her mission allowed her to create long-term success. She credits strong support systems, mentorship, and a relentless commitment to service as key factors in reaching record-breaking growth years.The episode closes with a powerful reflection on perseverance and purpose. Lorie’s story is a reminder that success is rarely overnight, and that the combination of hard work, adaptability, and heart can transform not only a business but an entire professional community. As part one ends, listeners are left anticipating part two, where the conversation will dive deeper into mindset, hustle, and the principles that continue to guide her journey.This episode is a must-listen for anyone in legal, medical, or entrepreneurial spaces who wants insight into relationship-driven growth, leadership, and the power of staying aligned with your vision.

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    Cristina Perez & Jason Pritchett | Building Law Firms With Vision Not Ego

    In Part 2 of Verdicts & Vogue, Cristina Perez sits down again with Jason Pritchett for a deeper, more reflective conversation on leadership, risk, and what it really means to build a legal career with long term vision. This episode moves beyond resumes and titles and into the lived experiences that shape decision making, ethics, and legacy.Jason shares his unconventional path through law school, including balancing daytime and night programs, early dissatisfaction in practice, and the reality of doing work that did not align with his original goals. That frustration, he explains, became foundational. Years spent in intense commercial and railroad litigation gave him a front row seat to what happens when things go wrong, and that experience now informs how he advises clients on risk, prevention, and strategy. Litigation, he notes, is the nuclear option. It is expensive, draining, and rarely satisfying, even when you win. True leadership is knowing when to fight, when to settle, and when ego needs to step aside for the health of the business.Throughout the episode, Jason breaks down how lawyers must think more like CEOs. Every legal decision, he argues, should be viewed through the lens of business impact, risk appetite, and long term consequences. He challenges the myth of the slam dunk case, warning that certainty in law is often a red flag. Instead, smart counsel prepares clients for how twelve strangers might interpret their decisions and whether the risk is worth the cost of distraction, time, and resources.The conversation also explores Jason’s leap into entrepreneurship, from running a solo practice where he wore every hat to helping pioneer Arizona’s Alternative Business Structure model. He explains why lawyers and doctors often struggle as business owners, how law school fails to teach practical business fundamentals, and why surrounding yourself with people who challenge you is critical to growth. Building a board was not about control. It was about accountability, humility, and learning how to run a real business with real assets.Beyond law and business, this episode is deeply personal. Cristina and Jason reflect on their early friendship during a summer abroad in Madrid, the importance of perspective, and how seeing the world expanded their sense of what was possible. They talk candidly about mentorship, loyalty, showing up for friends during hard seasons, and the quiet strength of relationships that do not require constant maintenance to endure.The episode closes with rapid fire questions that reveal Jason’s values. Hard work, gratitude, humor, resilience, and an unwavering belief that failure is temporary but effort compounds. Part 2 is a powerful reminder that success is not just about winning cases. It is about building something sustainable, staying human in the process, and never losing sight of why you started.

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    Cristina Perez & Jason Pritchett | The Power of Taking the Hard Road

    In this powerful and deeply personal episode of Verdicts & Vogue, host Cristina Perez Hesano sits down with longtime friend, respected trial attorney, and legal executive Jason Pritchett for a conversation that goes far beyond titles, accolades, and the courtroom. This episode explores adversity, discipline, identity, and what it truly means to earn your place when nothing is handed to you.Jason opens the conversation by grounding his story in gratitude, crediting his parents for instilling the values that shaped every chapter of his life. Raised on a farm in Virginia with strong roots in faith, structure, and accountability, he reflects on how growing up in a household that demanded effort and integrity built the foundation for resilience. From attending church multiple days a week dressed in suits and ties to learning early that preparation matters, those lessons never left him and still influence how he carries himself professionally today.Listeners quickly learn that law was not Jason’s original plan. A lifelong athlete with deep family ties to professional sports, he once envisioned a future in orthopedic medicine, drawn to the intersection of sports, medicine, and business. While preparing for the MCAT, however, reality set in. The long and demanding medical path ahead no longer aligned with the life he wanted. A chance look at an LSAT book changed everything and redirected his future.What followed was anything but a traditional journey. When Jason arrived at law school only to be told he could not begin because he could not afford tuition, he was forced to pivot immediately. Instead of walking away, he enrolled in night school and worked full time at a criminal defense firm during the day. His schedule was relentless. Mornings in court, afternoons with clients, evenings studying, and nights in class. There were no shortcuts and no safety net, only persistence.Under the mentorship of a no nonsense supervising attorney, Jason was thrown directly into real cases with little guidance. Jail visits, hearings, trials, and closing arguments came quickly. Mistakes were public and lessons were unforgettable. Judges were unforgiving, but the pressure forged confidence, courtroom instincts, and an uncommon level of trial experience long before graduation. By the time he completed law school, Jason had tried nearly a dozen serious criminal cases, experience most attorneys never gain so early in their careers.Jason speaks candidly about the adrenaline of trial work, describing closing arguments as one of the most intense and addictive experiences of his life, rivaled only by elite level athletic competition. He reflects openly on failure, humility, and the reality that growth never comes from winning alone. True growth, he explains, is forged in discomfort, loss, and the willingness to stay present when the pressure is highest.The conversation also dives into professionalism and presence and why Jason believes how you show up still matters, especially when clients are trusting you with the most difficult moments of their lives. His perspective on discipline, adaptability, and embracing change offers insight not just for lawyers, but for anyone navigating high pressure careers or nontraditional paths.This episode is a masterclass in resilience. Jason’s story is proof that unconventional routes are not weaknesses. They are often the very experiences that prepare you to lead. As the episode closes, he leaves listeners with a defining message. Do not fear adversity. Lean into it. Embrace it. Because if you have survived it once, you will survive it again, stronger every time.Part 1 sets the foundation. And in Part 2, Jason shares something he rarely speaks about, shifting the entire conversation in a way listeners will not expect.

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    Cristina Perez Featuring Amy Gunn & Erica Slater Part 2 | Building a Firm, Trying the Case, Changing the Outcome

    In Part 2 of this powerful Verdicts & Vogue conversation, Amy Gunn and Erica Slater pull back the curtain on what it really looks like to bet on yourself—and win. From launching their own law firm to taking high-stakes cases to verdict almost immediately, this episode is a masterclass in preparation, courage, and trusting your instincts when it matters most. Amy and Erica walk through the intentional, months-long planning process behind opening their firm, emphasizing that success didn’t come from impulse, but from strategy. From hiring key staff before opening their doors to ensuring their systems, website, and office were fully operational on day one, they describe a launch built to command confidence—internally and externally. Ethical rules required them to resign and open the firm on the same day, turning launch day into what they both describe as one of the most thrilling, emotionally charged moments of their careers.Just weeks later, Erica tried a case under the firm’s new name—a decision that was both necessary and symbolic. Refusing to appear vulnerable or be lowballed by defense counsel, they committed to trying cases when settlement offers didn’t reflect fair value. That mindset paid off when a $150,000 offer turned into a $400,000 jury verdict, reinforcing their belief that credibility is built in the courtroom.The episode then dives deep into a landmark medical malpractice trial that defined the firm’s early identity. Amy recounts a devastating birth-injury case involving prolonged labor, clear signs of distress, and catastrophic outcomes for a newborn. Despite overwhelming facts, the defense contested every aspect of liability, causation, and damages. On the first day of trial, the defense offered $10 million—an offer Amy and her clients declined without hesitation.What followed was a three-week trial culminating in a stunning jury verdict: $28 million in compensatory damages and $20 million in punitive damages. Amy explains the rare opportunity to argue punitive damages in a medical malpractice case, the gravity of asking a jury to “send a message,” and the responsibility that comes with wielding that power. The jury’s four-hour deliberation, request for a calculator, and emotional connection to the family underscored the human impact behind the numbers.Beyond the verdicts, Amy and Erica reflect on what success means to them now. They speak candidly about resisting the pressure to scale for scale’s sake, choosing instead to remain trial lawyers at heart—deeply involved in the work, the clients, and the courtroom. Their shared vision centers on autonomy, integrity, and building a firm that aligns with their values, not industry expectations.The episode closes on a lighter note with rapid-fire questions that reveal their personalities, humor, and humanity—reminding listeners that behind the verdicts are two women who lead with preparation, heart, and an unshakable belief in doing the work the right way.

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    Cristina Perez Featuring Amy Gunn & Erica Slater | Building Power Through Purpose

    In this episode of Verdicts & Vogue, host Cristina Perez Hesano sits down with powerhouse trial attorneys Amy Gunn and Erica Slater, co-founders of Gunn | Slater, for a candid, thoughtful conversation about law, leadership, mentorship, and the realities women face in building long-term careers in a still male-dominated profession.Amy Gunn reflects on nearly three decades of practice, sharing her journey from defense work to plaintiff-side litigation and ultimately to firm ownership. She speaks openly about loving the practice of law while recognizing moments when the environment around her no longer aligned with who she wanted to become. Her reflections are grounded in perspective—acknowledging that while all parties deserve capable representation, representing individuals and families felt more aligned with her values, personality, and sense of purpose. Amy also discusses the importance of proximity, balance, and timing, particularly as a young mother navigating demanding legal work.Erica Slater shares her path into the profession, beginning long before law school, having worked at a small plaintiff’s firm as a teenager. That early exposure shaped her understanding of advocacy, client relationships, and responsibility. After graduating during the recession, Erica entered insurance defense, where she gained valuable courtroom experience and discipline—but quickly realized the limitations of autonomy, creativity, and leadership within that structure. A defining moment came when she looked around and didn’t see anyone she aspired to become, reinforcing her belief that long-term fulfillment required a different environment. Reconnecting professionally with Amy ultimately led Erica back to plaintiff-side work and, eventually, to launching their own firm together.Throughout the episode, Cristina guides the discussion toward a broader examination of representation, visibility, and attrition in the legal profession. Despite women comprising roughly half of law school graduates for decades, Amy and Erica point out the stark underrepresentation of women among equity partners, firm leaders, and decision-makers. They explore why many women hesitate to raise their hands for leadership roles—and how simply “showing up” in those rooms can change what future generations believe is possible.The conversation also highlights the powerful role of mentorship and professional organizations. Amy recounts her experience coaching trial programs and mentoring younger attorneys, emphasizing that mentorship is not a one-way exchange but a mutually energizing relationship. Erica shares her involvement in judicial selection and legal service through Missouri’s court plan, underscoring how service beyond billable work shapes the justice system and strengthens communities.As the episode closes, listeners are left with a clear throughline: leadership is built intentionally. By choosing autonomy, investing in others, and stepping forward when representation is lacking, Amy Gunn and Erica Slater exemplify what it means to build a legacy—not just through verdicts, but through presence, integrity, and action. Their story is one of earned confidence, collaboration, and the courage to create the professional future they wanted to see.

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    Cristina Perez & Sophia Augeri 2: How Authenticity Becomes a Legal Advantage

    In this episode of Verdicts & Vogue, Cristina Perez continues her conversation with personal injury attorney Sophia Augeri, diving deeper into the mindset, emotional intelligence, and authenticity that shape powerful trial lawyers. What begins as a discussion about being a woman in law quickly unfolds into a thoughtful exploration of how empathy, self-awareness, and personal growth can become some of the strongest tools in the courtroom.Sophia reflects on how being underestimated early in her career—often because she is both a woman and Latina—initially pushed her to overcompensate with aggression and intensity. Over time, she learned that strength doesn’t always come from force. By leaning into her natural personality, kindness, and humanity, she found that she could build trust in depositions, disarm opposing parties, and uncover the truth more effectively than by being combative. Her ability to connect with people on a human level has led to defendants opening up, apologizing, and even offering help, moments that reveal the power of authenticity in legal advocacy.The conversation then shifts toward personal development and how becoming a better lawyer starts with becoming a better person. Sophia shares how focusing on her own growth through habits, learning, and self-reflection has created positive ripple effects in her legal practice. Cristina and Sophia discuss how understanding others—whether opposing counsel, defendants, or clients—creates better outcomes and deeper insight into every case.They also explore the importance of mentorship and community in the legal profession. Sophia credits the many attorneys who invested time in her growth and explains why giving back, serving on boards, and leading women’s initiatives are now central to her mission. From advocating for better safety regulations to handling complex traumatic brain injury cases, she emphasizes the importance of choosing meaningful work and building a practice rooted in purpose.The episode closes on a lighter note with a rapid-fire round that reveals Sophia’s personality beyond the courtroom, reminding listeners that great lawyers are also deeply human. Together, Cristina and Sophia offer a refreshing reminder that success in law isn’t just about strategy and skill—it’s about integrity, curiosity, empathy, and the courage to be yourself.

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    Cristina Perez & Sophia Augeri: Building Confidence as Women in Trial Law

    In this episode of Verdicts & Vogue, Cristina Perez sits down with personal injury attorney Sophia Augeri for a candid and relatable conversation about career evolution, confidence in the courtroom, and the personal experiences that shape strong women in law. What begins as a light, friendly exchange quickly unfolds into a meaningful discussion about growth, mentorship, and learning to trust your own voice.Sophia shares her journey into the legal profession, beginning in criminal defense and prosecution before transitioning into personal injury law. She reflects on how early courtroom exposure, trial experience, and adaptability helped shape her as a litigator. Growing up as a military brat, Sophia learned resilience early on, moving frequently and learning how to navigate new environments skills that later became invaluable in her legal career.Cristina and Sophia dive into the realities many female attorneys face when working alongside more experienced male counterparts. Both speak openly about moments of self-doubt, being underestimated, and initially holding back despite knowing the case inside and out. Sophia explains how preparation, mastery of the law, and real courtroom wins helped her build confidence, while Cristina shares her own turning point in learning to step forward, take the lead, and trust her instincts as both a lawyer and a business owner.The conversation balances professional insight with humor and personal stories, including Sophia’s passion for dance and the unexpected way it led her to both love and a major career shift, as well as Cristina’s candid reflections on growth, leadership, and letting go of limiting beliefs. Together, they emphasize that confidence is not given it is built through experience, persistence, and self-belief.This episode offers an honest look at what it takes to grow in law and in life, reminding listeners that finding your voice is a journey, not a moment, and that authenticity, resilience, and preparation are powerful tools in and out of the courtroom.

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    Cristina Perez & Genein Letford Part 2: Perez Law Group Community Highlight Episode

    In Part Two of this Community Highlight conversation, Cristina Perez continues her discussion with Genein Letford by diving deeper into brain capital, workplace wellness, and the role brain health plays in leadership, culture, and long term success. This episode expands beyond creativity alone and explores how the brain itself has become one of the most valuable assets in today’s rapidly evolving world.Genein introduces the concept of brain capital as the combination of brain skills and brain health. She explains that as artificial intelligence continues to advance, the human brain becomes even more essential. While technical skills matter, the majority of the skills identified as critical for the future workforce are brain based skills such as curiosity, adaptability, empathy, and social influence. These are skills that drive innovation, connection, and sound judgment across every profession, including law.The conversation addresses the growing mental health crisis and the rise of neurological conditions such as anxiety, depression, Alzheimer’s, and dementia. Genein emphasizes that waiting for a cure is not the solution. Instead, prevention and early intervention are key. Using the metaphor of a river, she explains that rather than pulling people out downstream, society must look upstream to understand why people are falling in at all. This philosophy shapes her work with organizations and communities by focusing on proactive brain health practices that support long term performance and wellbeing.Cristina and Genein discuss how brain health directly affects workplace culture. Long hours without breaks, lack of sunlight, minimal movement, and constant stress all diminish cognitive performance. Genein highlights the importance of intentional workplace design that allows for brain breaks, physical movement, access to art, exposure to nature, and moments of reflection. These elements are not luxuries but necessities for maintaining focus, creativity, and emotional regulation.Purpose emerges as a central theme throughout the episode. Genein explains that when people understand how their role contributes to a larger mission, their engagement and performance increase. Cristina reflects on how this principle applies within her firm, noting that every team member plays a critical role in shaping client experience. From the receptionist to the case managers, each interaction matters, especially when clients are navigating some of the most stressful moments of their lives.The episode also explores how connection reduces bias and strengthens empathy. Genein explains how the brain naturally categorizes people into groups within seconds, but meaningful interaction can override these instincts. Simple actions such as shared experiences, team activities, storytelling, and even wearing matching shirts can neurologically reinforce belonging and trust. These small but intentional practices help break down silos and foster collaboration across different roles and backgrounds.Genein shares insight into her nonprofit work and educational initiatives designed to support brain health across the lifespan. Through programs that combine music, movement, and learning, she creates experiences that help people retain information and translate it into real behavior change. She also discusses her work with children and families, emphasizing the importance of building cognitive reserve early in life through sleep, nutrition, creativity, social connection, movement, and stress reduction.The conversation highlights the importance of lifelong learning and curiosity. Genein explains that the brain thrives when challenged and engaged, and that learning should not stop after formal education ends. She shares practical strategies for individuals and families to support brain health in accessible and engaging ways.

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    Cristina Perez & Genein Letford Part 1: Perez Law Group Community Highlight Episode

    In Part One of this Community Highlight episode, Cristina Perez welcomes Genein Letford for a thoughtful and wide ranging conversation that connects creativity, brain science, culture, and leadership to the legal and professional world. This episode marks a departure from traditional attorney focused discussions and instead opens the door to learning from voices outside the legal field whose work deeply intersects with human behavior, judgment, and decision making.Genein Letford shares her background as an educator who spent more than fifteen years teaching students from kindergarten through fifth grade before expanding her work to middle school, high school, and higher education. Her experience includes teaching future educators at California State University Northridge, founding a nonprofit focused on youth development, and serving on the board of a national nonprofit alongside leaders from major global organizations. This diverse exposure allowed her to work with individuals ranging from young children to executives running multibillion dollar companies, giving her a rare perspective on how creativity, culture, and brain function shape human interaction at every level.The discussion centers on Genein’s work in creativity and brain based thinking, emphasizing that creativity is not limited to artistic expression. Instead, it is the ability to problem solve, adapt, and generate meaningful solutions in complex environments. She explains how creativity often declines as children move through traditional education systems and how this decline carries into adulthood and professional settings. This loss of creative thinking has significant consequences in fields that rely on judgment, communication, and adaptability, including law.Cristina connects these ideas directly to her experience as a trial lawyer and business owner. She discusses how attorneys must constantly assess human behavior, interpret emotional responses, and communicate difficult information to clients, juries, and colleagues. The conversation highlights how unconscious bias and learned assumptions influence decision making long before individuals realize it. Genein reinforces this point by explaining how the brain relies on past experiences and cultural conditioning to make rapid judgments, often without conscious awareness.A major theme of the episode is intercultural creativity, a concept Genein developed to describe the ability to problem solve with relevance and value while working with people from different lived experiences. She explains that cultural competence, sensitivity, and responsiveness are developmental skills that vary widely depending on exposure, upbringing, and environment. Rather than expecting everyone to operate at the same level, leaders must recognize that cultural understanding evolves over time and requires intentional learning.Cristina shares personal workplace experiences that illustrate how well intentioned actions can still cause harm when cultural awareness is lacking. These moments underscore the responsibility leaders carry to address issues thoughtfully while protecting trust, dignity, and psychological safety within their teams. Genein emphasizes curiosity as a foundational skill for both creativity and cultural growth, noting that asking thoughtful questions allows people to learn rather than shut down when mistakes occur.The episode concludes with a discussion on leadership responsibility and workplace culture. Genein explains that policies alone do not shape culture. Daily behaviors, conversations, and accountability do. Leaders must create environments where individuals feel safe acknowledging mistakes, learning, and improving. With rapid changes in technology, workforce dynamics, and communication norms, this approach is no longer optional. It is essential.

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    Cristina Perez & Wes Ball: Mentorship, Money on the Line, and the Trials That Define a Career

    In this episode of Verdicts and Vogue, Cristina Perez sits down with Wes Ball for an unfiltered conversation about what it truly means to build a trial career when everything is on the line. From moments of financial uncertainty to the pressure of funding major cases, Wes shares how close he came to the edge before strategic mentorship, trust, and timing helped change the trajectory of his practice.Wes opens up about the early realities of being a young trial lawyer who was willing to bet on his talent long before the rewards followed. He explains how meaningful mentorship shaped his growth, including the impact of senior trial lawyers who stepped in not to control cases but to guide, support, and protect the next generation. The conversation highlights why real mentorship is about responsibility, not leverage, and why sharing knowledge without strings attached is essential to strengthening the legal profession.Cristina and Wes also dive into leadership and his role as President of the Attorney Information Exchange Group. Wes explains how trust among lawyers allows information to flow freely, prevents powerful corporations from hiding critical evidence, and ultimately protects people who would otherwise be overlooked. He shares why building relationships and community within the legal world is not optional when handling high stakes litigation.The episode takes a powerful turn as Wes reflects on his involvement in some of the most challenging cases of his career, including defamation litigation that brought national attention, public backlash, and personal risk. He speaks candidly about the emotional and professional toll of standing up for families harmed by misinformation and the realities that follow even after securing significant verdicts. The discussion explores how accountability does not end with a jury decision and why persistence matters even when justice is delayed.Looking ahead, Wes discusses the future of trial law, including the growing role of collision avoidance technology, product liability, and the responsibility lawyers have in shaping safer systems through verdicts that influence public demand and policy change. He emphasizes that trial lawyers are often the first line of pressure that forces industries to evolve.The episode closes with personal reflections on legacy, family, and what success looks like beyond the courtroom. Wes shares what keeps him grounded, why listening has become one of the most important habits of his life, and how his greatest goal is ensuring that the next generation of lawyers is prepared to fight with integrity, courage, and purpose.This conversation is a deep look into mentorship, money on the line, and the trials that truly define a career both professionally and personally.

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    Cristina Perez & Wes Ball: Building Trial Lawyers & Early Verdicts

    In this episode of Verdicts & Vogue, host Cristina Perez Hesano sits down with powerhouse trial lawyer Wes Ball for a candid, unfiltered conversation about ambition, risk, and what it really takes to build a plaintiff-side trial practice from the ground up.Wes shares his journey from growing up in Tennessee to attending Baylor Law School, where early exposure to trial advocacy and the legacy of plaintiff trial lawyers shaped his future. What began as a vague vision of becoming a “big city lawyer” quickly transformed into a clear mission: get courtroom experience as early and as often as possible. That drive ultimately led Wes away from big defense firms and into the uncertainty of plaintiff litigation, where learning happens fast, pressure is constant, and nothing is guaranteed.Cristina and Wes dive into the realities of starting a law firm young, with no financial safety net and no outside backing. Wes opens up about leaving a prominent defense firm, realizing the structure limited real trial experience, and betting everything on building his own firm alongside his law partner, Kyle. With honesty and humor, Wes reflects on the fear, ignorance, and relentless work ethic that fueled those early decisions.The conversation turns deeply personal as Wes recounts one of his earliest and most defining cases, a catastrophic tire litigation tried in an extremely conservative jurisdiction. At just 29 years old, Wes secured a massive verdict on behalf of immigrant families who suffered devastating losses. He explains how unexpected moments in trial, human connection, and authenticity with a jury played a critical role in achieving justice. The case didn’t just change the clients’ lives, it nearly broke the firm financially as years of appeals delayed payment and drained resources.Cristina and Wes explore the emotional and ethical decisions trial lawyers face when settlement offers prioritize attorney fees over meaningful client outcomes. Wes reflects on the responsibility that comes with representing clients whose futures depend on the result, and how standing firm on principle can define a lawyer’s career.This episode goes beyond war stories, it’s a raw look at leadership, pressure, financial risk, and the long-term consequences of early success. Wes discusses how rapid growth, major verdicts, and national attention can strain a firm just as much as failure, and why resilience and purpose matter more than reputation.A powerful conversation about trial law, integrity, and betting on yourself, this is an episode for lawyers, entrepreneurs, and anyone willing to risk everything to build something meaningful.

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    Cristina Perez & Erika Contreras: Grit, Growth & the Power of Representation

    In Part 2 of Cristina Perez’s powerful conversation with Attorney Erika Contreras, we dive deeper into the journey, resilience, and heart behind one of California’s most respected trial lawyers. Erika opens up about her path from receptionist to partner at one of the nation’s leading personal injury firms, reflecting on how determination, humility, and an unshakeable work ethic shaped every stage of her career.This episode pulls you into the realities of becoming a lawyer while juggling motherhood, night school, and financial pressure—yet still rising. Erika shares intimate stories of studying for the bar exam while nursing her infant daughter, navigating two young children while building her early career, and learning to give herself grace in a profession that demands everything.Cristina and Erika also break down the truths of trial work: credibility, civility, authenticity, and the often-overlooked importance of understanding your client as a full human being—not just a case file. Erika explains how early investigation, pre-incident photos, family interviews, and storytelling can make or break a case, and why juries respond to real people over polished performances.They dive into navigating difficult defense attorneys, handling hostile or evasive witnesses, and why reputation—both for kindness and competence—travels fast in the legal community. Through memorable examples, Erika illustrates how jurors watch everything, how social media can destroy a case, and why preparation and emotional intelligence are just as critical as legal skill.The conversation then expands into culture, identity, and representation in the legal field. Erika shares the challenges of being one of the few Latinas in courtrooms across California—often mistaken for an interpreter or paralegal—and why increasing Latina representation is a mission she carries with pride. Her work with the Latina Lawyers Bar Association highlights her commitment to mentorship, community, and lifting others as she climbs.Finally, Cristina closes the episode with a lightning round that reveals Erika’s personality beyond the courtroom—from her most meaningful life moments, to her main-character achievements, to the legacy she hopes to leave behind. Erika opens up about her mother’s incredible immigration story, her family's influence, and the cultural expectations she had to push past to build the career she dreamed of.This episode is a celebration of grit, growth, womanhood, culture, and the quiet strength behind every accomplishment. If you’re an attorney, a working parent, a first-generation professional, or someone forging your own path, Erika’s story will leave you inspired, grounded, and reminded that nothing is out of reach when you bet on yourself.Watch Part 2 now—this is a conversation you won’t forget.

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    Cristina Perez & Erika Contreras Part 1: Litigtion & Leadership in Law

    In Episode 19 of Verdicts & Vogue, host Cristina Perez Hesano sits down with powerhouse litigator Erika Contreras, the first female and first Latina partner at Panish | Shea | Boyle | Ravipudi — a nationally recognized personal injury trial firm with offices in Los Angeles, Las Vegas, and Phoenix. In this episode, Erika opens up about her inspiring rise from underserved beginnings to becoming one of the most respected voices in catastrophic injury litigation.Erika begins by sharing her story as a first-generation Mexican American raised in the Pico-Union neighborhood of Los Angeles. With immigrant parents and limited resources, she grew up without access to mentors or information about college or professional careers. Yet even as a child, she held onto the idea of becoming an attorney — a spark first lit by watching a lawyer leave for work every morning in a suit and briefcase at her mom’s job.Everything changed when Erika joined the YMCA Youth & Government program as a teenager. A charter bus full of inner-city kids traveled to Sacramento, where she experienced the State Capitol for the first time. Walking through the historic halls, watching mock legislative sessions, and learning how laws are shaped became the defining moment that transformed a childhood impression into a real vision of her future.Cristina and Erika then dive into what it means to be a true litigation firm versus a pre-litigation practice. Erika explains the importance of filing cases early, moving them forward through depositions, expert work, and statutory demands, and keeping pressure on insurance carriers. She breaks down how litigation protects clients, ensures accurate case valuation, and gives plaintiffs the leverage necessary to achieve fair outcomes.The episode’s most emotional moment comes when Erika recounts one of the most impactful cases of her career — the wrongful death of a 14-year-old girl with asthma who collapsed and died after multiple school staff members failed to act. Erika takes listeners through the series of preventable errors, the heartbreak of working with the family, and the weight of handling a case involving a child the same age as her own daughter at the time.But the case also shows the power of litigation beyond financial compensation. Erika successfully achieved non-economic policy changes that now protect thousands of children, including:• Mandatory teacher review of every student’s medical file• Required training from medical professionals to recognize early signs of distress• Safety protocols to prevent similar failures• A school-approved memorial honoring the child’s lifeThese changes demonstrate how litigation can create lasting community safety — not just verdicts. Cristina and Erika reflect on the sacred responsibility attorneys carry when representing families, especially when children are involved, and how advocacy can transform systems that fail the most vulnerable.The episode closes with Cristina bringing the story full circle, highlighting how Erika’s childhood curiosity transformed into a lifelong commitment to justice. From a young girl inspired by the image of a lawyer to a Latina partner changing the landscape of personal injury litigation, Erika’s journey is one of resilience, purpose, and leadership.Part 2 continues Erika’s story — revealing exactly how she turned her dream into reality and the pivotal moments that shaped her legal career.

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    Cristina Perez & Gil Negrete: Sitting down with Gil Negrete

    In this episode, Cristina Perez Hesano sits down with the one and only Gil Negrete — a former billboard attorney known for his big personality, bigger controversies, and a reputation that has followed him everywhere. But behind the name, the noise, and the headlines, there’s a story very few people have actually heard.Gil opens up about growing up in Phoenix, navigating life as the oldest of five, and finding his early passion not in law, but in sports — chasing athletes, managing endorsements, and learning the business from the inside. That early hustle eventually led him into personal injury law, where he built his firm from a rented room into a machine signing over 100 clients a month. On the outside, it looked like the dream. Inside, it was becoming a pressure cooker.For the first time, Gil talks about the real factors that contributed to his firm’s explosion, the lack of infrastructure behind the scenes, the ego that came with fast growth, and the mistakes that turned into major consequences. He breaks down the bar complaint that ultimately led to his suspension — a $1,200 dispute that spiraled into something he never expected — and the public fallout that followed.And while the legal battles, lawsuits, and public criticism were hitting from every angle, something even heavier was happening behind closed doors: a stage 3 cancer diagnosis.This episode captures a side of Gil that most people have never seen — not the persona, not the podcast voice, not the fighter swinging back at his critics — but the father, the husband, the man navigating chemo, neuropathy, fear, and the question none of us ever want to ask: “How long do I have to live?”Cristina and Gil also confront their own history — a heated phone call, months of tension, and the unexpected moment that brought them face-to-face at the Los Abogados Gala, where Gil was publicly detained after an accusation tied to an injunction. What happened that night, what didn’t happen, and what the public never heard — it’s all here.This is not a story about scandal. It’s not a story about downfall. It’s a story about accountability, identity, survival, and the power of telling the truth — even when it’s uncomfortable.Gil speaks about rebuilding, rethinking what matters, and what life looks like when career goals suddenly take a back seat to health, family, and time. For the first time, he shares the emotional cost, the private conversations, the fear of leaving his daughters too soon, and the fight to stay alive long enough to see them grow.Episode 18 is raw, real, and unexpectedly vulnerable. It reminds us that behind every name, every headline, every rumor, and every opinion… there is a human being living a story the world rarely stops to hear.

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    Cristina Perez & Brenda Echevarria Part 2: Leading in Law and Life

    🎙️ Verdicts & Vogue — Episode 2: “Tough Times Don’t Last, Tough Women Do”In Part 2 of Verdicts & Vogue with Brenda Echeverria, host Cristina Perez Hesano continues a heartfelt conversation that dives even deeper into what it truly means to be a woman leading with strength, vulnerability, and perseverance — both in law and in life.Brenda opens up about the constant pressure she placed on herself early in her career — the long nights studying for the bar, the weight of expectation, and the self-imposed standard to “do it all” perfectly. Reflecting with raw honesty, she admits that in her younger years, she was so focused on success that she often forgot to enjoy the journey. Her message to her younger self — and to other women walking the same path — is simple but powerful: Relax. Breathe. You’re doing better than you think.Through laughter and reflection, Brenda shares her story of raising two young children while building her legal career — including moving cross-country with a three-week-old baby. She recalls the moments of chaos, the tears of exhaustion, and the strength it took to keep moving forward. Her mantra, “Just keep swimming,” became a symbol of the quiet resilience shared among women who carry so much — professionals, mothers, wives, and leaders who often put everyone else first.Brenda also opens up about how she motivates herself during difficult days, reciting the phrase that became her personal motto: “Tough times don’t last, tough people do.” It’s a lesson she now passes on to her daughter, reminding her — and every woman listening — that inner strength grows through adversity.This episode isn’t just about success in law; it’s about building a legacy rooted in service and compassion. Brenda talks about giving back through pro bono work, particularly for Spanish-speaking and immigrant communities — groups that often lack access to quality legal support. For her, advocacy isn’t a profession; it’s a responsibility.The conversation also explores what it means to grow as a female attorney in a competitive industry — learning to generate business, build relationships, and stay grounded in purpose. Brenda reflects on her time at Morgan & Morgan, where cases flowed effortlessly, compared to her current experience at The Advocates, where she learned to build her own book of business through community and connection. Her story of joining BNI, a local business networking group, showcases how genuine relationships and word-of-mouth trust can create long-term impact — a reminder that authentic connection will always outperform advertising.The episode closes with laughter and lighthearted moments, revealing Brenda’s warmth and humanity. From stories of childhood dreams to rapid-fire questions about life and happiness, she reminds us that joy is found in the simple things — like tacos by the beach or laughing with friends.Verdicts & Vogue: Part 2 is more than an interview. It’s a celebration of women who keep going — who lead with empathy, courage, and an unwavering belief that their voice matters. Brenda’s journey reminds every woman listening that leadership isn’t about having it all figured out — it’s about lifting others while you rise.

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    Cristina Perez & Brenda Echevarria: Finding Your Voice and Building Your Path, Creating a Legacy in Law and Life

    In this heartfelt and down-to-earth episode of Verdicts & Vogue, host, Cristina Pérez Hesano of Perez Law Group sits with Personal Injury Attorney Brenda Echevarria with the Advocates for an honest conversation about growth, grit, and the importance of mentorship. What begins as a casual toast quickly turns into an intimate discussion about heritage, perseverance, and what it means to create opportunity when none is handed to you.Born in Anaheim, California to parents from Mexico City and Toluca, Brenda moved to Arizona at six years old and grew up in Phoenix’s west valley. A proud Washington High School Ram, she went on to graduate from Arizona State University with a communications degree before later earning her law degree in Orlando, Florida. Yet, her story to becoming an attorney was anything but linear.Before law school, Brenda worked in collections, tracking down unpaid car-accident claims for uninsured drivers on behalf of State Farm clients. It was a tough crowd—one that demanded composure, empathy, and quick problem-solving. She laughs recalling how, at just eighteen, she learned to negotiate with angry callers and still treat them with kindness. “You get more with honey than with vinegar,” she says, a philosophy that would later define her approach to clients and colleagues alike.Her persistence and professionalism led to a full-time job with State Farm, first in homeowner’s claims and later on the In-Language Team, a specialized department dedicated to serving non-English-speaking policyholders. That transition reshaped her identity. Though Spanish was her first language, Brenda admits she had distanced herself from it as she assimilated into English-speaking culture. Rejoining a bilingual team made her realize the value of her roots and inspired her to refine her Spanish to a professional level. She immersed herself in Spanish-language media, practiced daily, and eventually mastered both linguistic and cultural fluency—skills that now allow her to serve Arizona’s Hispanic community with confidence. Today, more than 80 percent of her clients are Spanish-speaking, and she calls that connection one of her proudest accomplishments.Cristina relates deeply, sharing her own experience as a mother, a lawyer, and a daughter of immigrant parents who wanted their children to succeed but didn’t always know how to guide them. Over dinner one night—a chaotic but memorable evening involving Cristina’s kids, toy dinosaurs, and laughter—the two discovered how similar their paths were: both driven by family values, hard work, and the determination to make their parents’ sacrifices mean something.Brenda reflects on how mentorship changed everything for her. As a first-generation college student, she didn’t have anyone to show her how to fill out a FAFSA, apply for grad school, or study for the bar. It wasn’t until meeting her husband, Carlos, that she realized her potential. “He was the first person to make me believe it was possible,” she says. His encouragement, combined with her own drive, gave her the courage to leave a stable job and pursue law school.Today, Brenda credits her career to that mindset: surrounding yourself with people who inspire you and seeking mentors who guide you forward. “If you don’t know the path, find someone who does,” she advises future law students. “And one day, be that person for someone else.”From collections to claims to the courtroom, Brenda’s journey reminds viewers that success rarely follows a straight line—it’s built through resilience, community, and courage.Verdicts & Vogue Episode 16 captures two Latina attorneys sharing real stories about motherhood, cultural identity, and empowerment in the legal world. It’s equal parts personal and professional—an inspiring reminder that no matter where you start, it’s never too late to redefine your purpose, embrace your voice, and help others find theirs.

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    The Legal Beagle Throwback Part 1 with Trial Lawyers, Jonathan Negretti and Erling Andersen

    Verdicts & Vogue – Episode 15Throwback to The Legal Beagle with Jonathan Negretti & Guest Erling AndersenSometimes the most powerful stories are the ones worth telling twice. Episode 15 of Verdicts & Vogue takes us back to the one and only podcast by Jonathan Negretti — The Legal Beagle — where he sat down with Erling Andersen, a Norwegian entrepreneur whose life embodies resilience, reinvention, and disruption in the legal world.Erling’s story begins in Norway with a bold idea. At just 19 years old, he co-founded Beep.no, a social media platform that quickly gained traction and, at its peak, captured nearly 10% of Norway’s population. In 2008, Erling sold the company for $12 million. At only 25, he was financially free, with options to retire, travel, or simply enjoy the fruits of his early success. But instead of stopping there, his life took an unexpected turn.Four years after the sale, the Norwegian Tax Authority came after him with a $500,000 claim, arguing that part of his earn-out deal should be taxed as salary rather than capital gains. Erling could have hired expensive lawyers to fight the case — in fact, he did at first, and was billed $15,000 for a single four-page letter. Instead, he made a radical choice: he enrolled in law school, completed his degree in record time (just two and a half years compared to the usual five), and argued his own case. Against the odds, he won.This victory revealed two truths: first, the power of determination when you refuse to be cornered; and second, the inefficiencies and outdated structures embedded in the legal profession. With his combined background in IT, business, and law, Erling saw a massive opportunity to innovate.That vision became AdvokatGuiden (The Lawyer Guide), a legal tech platform designed to make the profession more transparent, democratic, and accessible. For clients, it meant finding the right lawyer with ease. For young lawyers, it created an even playing field in a system often dominated by senior partners and legacy firms.In this throwback conversation, Jonathan and Erling explore:The antiquated practices of client recruitment in law, and why many lawyers resist digital transformation.How entrepreneurship can breathe new life into traditional professions.The importance of transparency, both for clients choosing lawyers and for lawyers navigating their careers.Comparisons between law and other industries that once seemed untouchable — from taxi driving to aviation — and how disruption eventually arrived there too.The future of law in an era of private investment, automation, and “gig economy” style services.At its core, Erling’s journey is about refusing to accept the status quo. Whether building a social network in his early twenties, taking on the government in court, or challenging the deeply entrenched systems of law, he represents the mindset of constant reinvention.Jonathan Negretti guides the discussion with curiosity and perspective, drawing parallels to the American legal landscape — particularly in Arizona, where recent regulatory changes are beginning to mirror the disruption Erling predicts in Europe. The episode challenges us to ask: What does the future of legal services really look like? Who gets left behind if the industry doesn’t adapt?By revisiting this conversation, Verdicts & Vogue celebrates not just a remarkable entrepreneurial story but also a vision for the future of law itself — one where innovation, transparency, and accessibility are no longer optional but necessary.This throwback reminds us that sometimes, to understand where we’re going, we need to revisit the voices who first dared to say, “There’s a better way.”

  26. 14

    Cristina Perez & Rachel Frazier Johnson: Women of Power, Voices of Justice

    Cristina Perez & Rachel Frazier JohnsonPower in Advocacy: High-Stakes Litigation & Leadership in LawAttorney Rachel Frazier Johnson is a force who has built her career on resilience, growth, and an unwavering pursuit of justice. What began as a passion for the law evolved into a path of leadership, influence, and impact—marked by decisive steps that continue to elevate her as one of the most respected litigators and woman leaders in her field.Rachel’s journey is not only defined by her victories in the courtroom, but also by the growth points in her life that shaped her character and resolve. She credits much of her strength to the foundation of family, whose values instilled in her a deep sense of responsibility, compassion, and perseverance. These early lessons became the bedrock of her professional ethos: to fight relentlessly for justice, to uplift others along the way, and to never allow adversity to define her future.Her path through the legal profession has been marked by both challenges and triumphs. Rachel has faced obstacles that tested her resolve, yet each one became an opportunity for growth. Through these experiences, she not only sharpened her legal skills but also developed the leadership qualities that now set her apart. She grew into a woman of high power by embracing life’s lessons, understanding that true influence is built on resilience, empathy, and the ability to rise after every fall.Her practice spans areas of high-stakes litigation that require both legal precision and human understanding—cases of personal injury, catastrophic claims, and matters where lives and futures hang in the balance. Rachel’s clients describe her as both fearless and compassionate: a litigator who commands authority in the courtroom, but also a counselor who walks with them through their most difficult seasons. Her strength is rooted in her ability to balance strategy with empathy, ensuring that every case is not only fought, but deeply understood.Family continues to play a central role in her life and leadership. For Rachel, success is not measured by professional milestones alone but by the legacy she builds for her loved ones and the example she sets for future generations. She is proud to stand as a role model for young women—especially those balancing careers, families, and ambitions—demonstrating that it is possible to lead with both power and grace.Her growth as an attorney is matched by her growth as a leader in the community. Rachel invests in mentoring, empowering colleagues, and creating opportunities for women to rise in law. She understands that leadership is not simply about commanding a courtroom but also about opening doors for others to walk through. Her journey as a woman leader reflects both personal and professional growth, rooted in her commitment to transform barriers into pathways.Rachel’s reputation is anchored by her ability to turn challenges into triumphs. Whether standing before a jury, negotiating complex settlements, or speaking at community events, she brings the same qualities that have defined her life: vision, courage, and strength. She is often described as a strategist with the heart of an advocate—a professional who combines intellectual command of the law with an instinctive understanding of people and their needs.Today, Rachel Frazier Johnson is more than an attorney—she is a powerhouse litigator, a respected leader, and an inspiring example of resilience and growth. Her presence in the courtroom inspires confidence. Her leadership in the community sets a standard. And her story reminds us all that strength is not born from ease but from perseverance, family values, and a relentless commitment to justice.In every case she fights, in every life she touches, and in every step she takes, Rachel embodies the qualities that have made her a woman of high power: resilience, growth, and the pursuit of justice—driven by both the lessons of her life and the love of her family.

  27. 13

    Cristina Perez & Rosi Castillo: The Backbone of Litigation: A Paralegal’s Perspective

    Episode Summary: The Backbone of Litigation – A Paralegal’s Perspective with Rosi CastilloIn this episode of Verdicts & Vogue, we step behind the curtain of high-stakes litigation with Rosi Castillo, a seasoned paralegal whose two decades in product liability law have made her an indispensable force in the courtroom and beyond. With candor, humor, and heart, Rosi shares how her journey from a receptionist to chairperson of the AIEG Paralegal Division reflects both the grit and grace it takes to thrive in this demanding field.Rosi begins by recounting her early life in Texas, where determination and resilience shaped her path. From banking and property tax research to answering phones at Leon Russell’s renowned product liability firm, she seized every opportunity to learn. Mentored by Sharon Russell, Rosi immersed herself in reviewing “hot docs”—the hidden, crucial pieces of evidence buried in mountains of corporate paperwork from automotive giants like GM, Ford, and Nissan. She recalls the overwhelming challenge of combing through 100,000+ pages in cases such as Paiz v. General Motors, where the stakes were nothing less than life-altering for clients. That experience ignited her purpose: uncovering the truth for those whose lives had been devastated.Her reflections highlight the emotional weight paralegals carry. Rosi shares how her role as a single mother deepened her connection to clients, especially parents who could no longer care for their children due to catastrophic injuries. That personal perspective drove her commitment to excellence and reminded her why paralegals are more than just “behind-the-scenes” players—they are lifelines to justice.Listeners gain a vivid sense of the paralegal life: late nights, endless trial prep, and the responsibility of holding an attorney’s bar license “in your hands.” Rosi emphasizes that success comes from curiosity, resourcefulness, and the courage to ask questions—even ones that feel “dumb.” She underscores the importance of networking, sharing how her involvement with AIEG (Attorneys Information Exchange Group) not only elevated her skills but also gave her the platform to now lead as its paralegal chair, a full-circle moment since Sharon Russell founded the division decades earlier.One of the most compelling stories Rosi tells is from her first trial in 2007 (Scales v. Nissan), when she was unexpectedly called to the stand over a videotape. That nerve-wracking moment—and the lessons that followed about disclosure and documentation—became a cornerstone of her career philosophy: every trial teaches, and every mistake must become fuel for growth.Rosi also opens up about balancing family and career, the sacrifices of trial work, and the importance of supportive partners. She discusses the generational differences she sees in the workforce, her own journey as a parent, and the values of accountability and resilience she hopes to instill in her children.The conversation dives into the technical side of trial practice too, from mastering litigation software like Sanction and Trial Director to working closely with trial techs. Rosi reveals her love of trial work—the adrenaline, the late nights, the puzzle-solving energy that comes with presenting cases to a jury. For her, it’s not a burden but a passion.As the episode closes, Rosi offers advice to aspiring paralegals: embrace continuous learning, never be afraid to admit when you don’t know something, and above all, love the fight for justice. She leaves listeners with the reminder that success isn’t measured by titles alone but by the smiles on clients’ faces when justice is served.With wit, vulnerability, and hard-earned wisdom, Rosi Castillo embodies the backbone of litigation. This episode is both an ode to paralegals everywhere and an inspiring roadmap for anyone navigating the demanding but deeply rewarding world of trial law.

  28. 12

    Cristina Perez & Sean Simpson: Mastering the Art of Personal Injury Representation

    In this episode of Verdicts in Vogue, host Cristina Perez sits down with renowned trial lawyer Sean Simpson at the TBI Med Legal conference, where the two first met years ago. Their conversation dives into the heart of trial work, collaboration, mentorship, and the fight for justice in personal injury law.The discussion begins with their origin story—meeting at a dinner years back, introduced through mutual colleagues. That chance meeting quickly developed into a working relationship that has since evolved into a partnership on multiple cases, including a high-stakes traumatic brain injury (TBI) matter involving a dangerous Airbnb property. Though confidentiality prevents details from being shared, both lawyers reflect on the importance of site inspections, expert testimony, and jury perception in achieving a favorable outcome.Sean emphasizes the value of immersive case preparation—visiting accident scenes, tow yards, and clients’ homes—to truly understand a client’s life. Cristina adds that connecting with families and capturing “day-in-the-life” perspectives are essential for telling stories that resonate with juries. They caution, however, against exaggeration or presenting clients as mere victims; authenticity and empowerment are key.The two recount experiences working together on challenging trials, including one with a difficult jury pool and an underwhelming medical expert. Despite setbacks, they secured a verdict, though it fell short of expectations. Their reflection highlights critical lessons: jurors respond more to likability and believability than technical arguments, and an unhelpful witness or poorly prepared client can derail credibility.Sean shares insights from his career path, which unexpectedly steered him into punitive damages cases across multiple practice areas—employment, insurance bad faith, fraud, and personal injury. These experiences inspired him to author Punitive Damages: A Lawyer’s Tool for Shaping Society, which underscores the role trial lawyers play in curbing corporate misconduct and holding powerful institutions accountable. He discusses how corporations’ influence over legislation often tilts laws against consumers, making the plaintiff’s bar the “David” to corporate America’s “Goliath.”Another theme is mentorship and collaboration. Cristina and Sean both stress the importance of younger or less experienced attorneys reaching out for guidance rather than trying to go it alone. Sean recalls his own early reluctance to ask for help, but now advocates for vulnerability and teamwork—arguing that shared resources and expertise often multiply results for clients. Cristina echoes this, pointing to her role in women’s legal groups and national trial lawyer associations where knowledge-sharing uplifts the profession.The conversation also touches on AI’s emerging role in jury selection. Sean explains how new technology can synthesize data from large jury pools to predict case values and juror tendencies more accurately than ever before. Though the legal landscape is changing, he insists the fundamentals—storytelling, credibility, and human connection—remain irreplaceable.In closing, Sean reflects on the resilience instilled in him by his childhood, growing up in tough conditions with a father in medical school. Lessons of perseverance, grit, and “fighting until the work is done” shaped his legal career. Both he and Cristina agree that personal adversity often fuels the passion required to take on powerful adversaries in the courtroom.

  29. 11

    Cristina Perez with Kari Ramos & Ilya Lerma: Advocacy with Impact—From the Courtroom to Strategy

    Episode 11: Cristina Perez with Kari Ramos & Ilya Lerma: Advocacy with Impact—From the Courtroom to StrategyCristina Perez with Kari Ramos & Ilya Lerma: Advocacy with Impact—From the Courtroom to StrategyIn this inspiring episode of Verdicts & Vogue, Cristina Perez sits down with two powerhouse trial attorneys—Kari Ramos and Ilya Lerma—for a dynamic conversation on leadership, resilience, and what it takes to advocate with impact.Kari Ramos brings her personal injury expertise to the forefront with a deep sense of purpose. Known for her ability to lead with both heart and grit, Kari shares how personal experiences shaped her path in the legal world, and how she channels empathy and drive into every case she takes. From advocating for injured clients to mentoring the next generation of lawyers, Kari exemplifies leadership through service.Ilya Lerma, a seasoned trial attorney and litigation strategist, brings unmatched insight into the art of persuasion and performance in the courtroom. With years of experience handling high-stakes cases, Ilya discusses how narrative, psychology, and preparation intersect to shape jury outcomes. Her passion for advocacy is rivaled only by her commitment to pushing the boundaries of traditional trial work—with a bold, unapologetic edge.Together, Kari and Ilya offer a powerful look at what it means to lead with conviction—both inside and outside the courtroom. This episode dives into the emotional, intellectual, and strategic layers of legal advocacy, shining a light on two women redefining strength in trial law.🎧 Now streaming on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, and Spotify.#VerdictsAndVogue #CristinaPerez #KariRamos #IlyaLerma #TrialLawyers #WomenInLaw #LegalLeadership #PlaintiffAttorney #CourtroomAdvocacy #LitigationStrategy #LawWithImpact #LegalPodcast #VerdictReady #AdvocacyWithPurpose

  30. 10

    Cristina Perez & Julian C. Gomez Part 2: Catastrophic Personal Injury & Products Liability Lawyer

    Episode 10, Part 2: Precision Litigator: Catastrophic Personal Injury & Products Liability LawyerIn Part 2 of this compelling two-part series of Verdicts & Vogue, Julian Gomez returns to share a deeper, more personal side of his journey—one that goes beyond the courtroom and into the fabric of family, mentorship, legacy, and the mindset that defines true leadership. Building on Part 1, Julian opens up about how he shows up for catastrophically injured clients, the weight of being fully present, and the emotional discipline required to carry their stories with integrity.Listeners are brought into Julian’s core values—how “failing fast” doesn’t apply when someone’s life is in your hands, and why preparation, presence, and deep empathy are non-negotiable in his work. He recounts how visiting his clients’ homes and seeing how they live transforms the way he litigates. It’s not strategy alone—it’s storytelling rooted in truth and human connection.Julian also shares hard-won wisdom about the personal cost of practicing law at the highest level: how ego, status, and performance metrics can quickly pull lawyers away from their purpose, and why the most successful outcomes come when you remember who you’re truly working for. Drawing on advice from mentors and judges throughout his life, Julian explains the difference between winning for optics and winning for your client’s future—and how the latter should always be the goal.The episode dives into the balancing act of being both a high-level litigator and a father. Julian reflects on how his daughter inspired his perspective on legacy, and how meaningful moments—like rock climbing or swimming with dolphins—serve as metaphors for risk, resilience, and leaving it all on the mountain. He speaks candidly about raising children in a household shaped by law and loss, and how empathy, honesty, and presence have become his guideposts, both at home and in court.Julian also offers rich insight for young lawyers struggling to find their voice. From the importance of being yourself, to practicing "brutal honesty" and not drinking your own Kool-Aid, Julian encourages future leaders to stop mimicking and start molding their own path—flaws and all. He unpacks how introversion shaped his development, how he learned to initiate connection, and how he practices his “elevator pitch” not for show, but to stay open and grounded.As the conversation unfolds, Julian reveals his vision for the next chapter—balancing his core practice areas in catastrophic personal injury and product liability with a desire to diversify into new spaces like estate planning and IP. He shares why adaptability is a superpower, and how maintaining an abundance mindset has helped him pivot, evolve, and stay aligned with his values.This episode is a masterclass in legacy building, personal leadership, and practicing law with heart. Whether you're a trial lawyer, a parent, or someone navigating the balance between purpose and pressure, Julian’s reflections in Part 2 are a reminder that we are defined not just by our victories—but by how we carry the people who trust us most.

  31. 9

    Cristina Perez & Julian C. Gomez: Precision Litigator: Catastrophic Personal Injury & Products Liability Lawyer

    Episode 9, Part 1: Precision Litigator: Catastrophic Personal Injury & Products Liability LawyerIn this captivating episode of Verdicts & Vogue, we sit down with Julian Gomez, a renowned catastrophic personal injury and products liability lawyer whose life and career have been shaped by generations of resilience, family values, and a relentless pursuit of justice. From growing up on a multi-generational South Texas ranch to becoming one of the nation’s most fearless trial lawyers, Julian shares how early lessons of hard work, honesty, and perseverance learned on the ranch laid the foundation for his courtroom success.Listeners will be drawn into Julian’s deeply personal reflections on family—how being a son, brother, husband, father, and uncle influences the way he shows up for clients facing the worst moments of their lives. He recounts vivid memories of his grandfather teaching him to “walk fast, talk fast, think fast,” instilling a mindset of precision and urgency that guides his work to this day. Julian reveals how these seemingly simple lessons translate into courtroom victories, strategic litigation, and powerful advocacy for those harmed by dangerous products or catastrophic events.We explore Julian’s unique professional journey, from dreams of ranching and architecture to cattle trading and ultimately to law, shaped by stories of his family’s struggles during the Great Depression and the unwavering belief that, with grit and resourcefulness, nothing is impossible. He candidly shares the bold choices he made early in his legal career, including taking on a complex international products case as his very first matter—an experience that set the tone for his fearless approach to law.Julian opens up about the challenges facing the next generation of attorneys in a world dominated by digital communication, and he shares invaluable advice for young lawyers on building authentic relationships, honing communication skills, and staying intentional with every decision. Drawing on decades of experience, he explains why self-reliance, adaptability, and being “available, amiable, and able”—the three A’s of success he learned from his grandfather—are essential for thriving in law and life.The conversation also tackles the stark realities of fighting corporate giants in catastrophic injury and product liability cases, where Julian’s meticulous preparation and belief in the impossible have led to remarkable outcomes for clients others had given up on. He discusses the importance of collaboration in litigation, the power of partnering with diverse perspectives, and how putting the client first drives better results.As the episode unfolds, Julian offers heartfelt insights into what defines professional fulfillment, how faith and prayer guide his next chapter, and why his mission remains to use the law to make clients’ lives better after tragedy. He reflects on how lessons from the ranch continue to remind him of the value of truth, perseverance, and showing up—even when the odds are against you.Whether you’re a lawyer seeking inspiration, a law student curious about the realities of trial practice, or someone who loves stories of grit, family, and the pursuit of justice, this episode with Julian Gomez is a must-listen. Tune in for a masterclass in precision litigation, storytelling, and the human side of law that makes a lasting impact.

  32. 8

    Cristina Perez & Mike Alder: Litigation Powerhouse: Personal Injury, Business Torts & Employment Law

    Episode 8: Cristina Perez & Mike Alder: Litigation Powerhouse: Personal Injury, Business Torts & Employment LawMike Alder is widely recognized as one of California’s premier trial attorneys, known for his aggressive advocacy, strategic litigation skills, and deep commitment to client justice. As the founder and senior trial attorney at AlderLaw, based in Los Angeles, he has led his firm to recover over $3.1 billion in verdicts and settlements for clients in personal injury, employment, and toxic tort cases.In this episode of Verdicts & Vogue, we sit down with the one and only Mike Alder—a true titan in the world of trial law. Widely recognized as one of California’s premier litigators, Mike has built a name that carries undeniable weight in courtrooms and legal communities across the country. As the founder and senior trial attorney at AlderLaw, based in Los Angeles, Mike has recovered over $3.1 billion in verdicts and settlements for his clients. But his influence goes far beyond numbers.This episode offers an unfiltered deep dive into what it means to build a litigation powerhouse—not just through verdicts, but through leadership, culture, and strategic collaboration. Mike shares how he built a firm rooted in loyalty, excellence, and high-stakes performance. He opens up about forming alliances with other top-tier trial lawyers and how working together has been a key component in scaling impact and dominating complex cases. He also speaks on what it means to actually lead inside the courtroom—through presence, control, and mindset.Listeners will gain powerful insight into how today’s law firms must also evolve with the times, especially in the digital world. Mike speaks candidly about the importance of leveraging social media, owning your digital presence, and building your reputation online as much as in the courtroom. In a profession that’s traditionally been slow to adapt, Mike explains why lawyers who embrace modern tools while maintaining foundational trial skillsets will rise the fastest.One of the most compelling parts of the episode is Mike’s breakdown of “unconditional silence”—his self-described secret weapon during trial. It’s more than a strategy; it’s a mindset shift that separates the average from the elite. Silence, control, and calculated restraint become tools for power—and Mike explains exactly how he uses them to win.If you're serious about the legal profession, this is more than just an interview—it's a blueprint. Whether you're trying to grow your firm, sharpen your trial skills, or understand how greatness is truly built, Mike Alder lays it all out with clarity, intensity, and unmatched experience. This is an episode every trial lawyer needs to hear.

  33. 7

    Cristina Perez, Frances Lynch & Ronda Kelso, RN, JD: Verdicts with Vision: Clinical Expertise and Compelling Advocacy

    Episode 7: Cristina Perez, Frances Lynch & Ronda Kelso, RN, JD: Verdicts with Vision: Clinical Expertise and Compelling AdvocacyRonda Kelso, RN, JDFrom Scrubs to Summations: Mastering Medical MalpracticeWith dual expertise as a registered nurse and trial lawyer, Ronda Kelso offers a rare and razor-sharp perspective on medical malpractice litigation. Her insights blend clinical precision with courtroom power.Frances LynchThe Written Word Meets the Rule of LawAuthor and trial attorney Frances Lynch brings storytelling to litigation. Whether on the page or before a jury, she turns facts into compelling narratives that move hearts—and win cases.In this dynamic episode of Verdicts & Vogue, host Cristina Perez Hesano sits down with two powerhouses of Arizona’s legal community: Ronda Kelso and Frances Lynch. The conversation spans years of friendship, legal grit, and collective passion for uplifting women within the field of trial law. More than just impressive titles and credentials, these women represent an evolving force in a historically male-dominated industry.Together, the three women reflect on the serendipitous meeting that sparked what would become WAZTLA—the Women of the Arizona Trial Lawyers Association. What began as a call to support the Arizona Association for Justice’s membership committee quickly evolved into the formation of a vibrant community. Shocked to discover the lack of a women’s group in the state’s trial lawyer community, they took matters into their own hands—starting with a listserv designed to foster safe, supportive legal conversations among women attorneys.For Frances, the listserv became a springboard for something greater: a living, breathing resource hub where female lawyers could ask “simple” questions without judgment and share valuable legal documents. This grew into a collaborative portal hosted by TrialSmith, a tool accessible to any woman in the association, encouraging transparency, empowerment, and shared success.Ronda, meanwhile, recalls how her medical background offered an advantage when transitioning into law—and how vital mentorship became along the way. With humility and clarity, she discusses the nuances of practicing med-mal, sharing her journey from nurse to attorney and the impact of winning a unanimous $2.8 million verdict. She and Frances both reflect on the mentors who guided them—from pioneering women like Jojean Mills to unexpected allies in the courtroom—and how they now actively pay that mentorship forward to the next generation of women lawyers.Beyond law, their passions ripple through community service and creativity. Ronda speaks on her role as a board member for Gabriel’s Angels, a nonprofit that pairs therapy dogs with at-risk youth to foster empathy and healing. Frances, a published author born in the UK, shares her path from journalist to attorney—and how writing continues to be a critical, cathartic part of her work.The episode also highlights their role in launching "Coffee and Cases," a regular series designed to create a face-to-face (or Zoom-to-Zoom) mentorship and case discussion space for women in practice. These gatherings reinforce the deep need for community and mentorship, especially in a field where women still make up a small fraction of trial lawyers.What emerges in this episode is more than just professional reflection—it’s a blueprint for creating meaningful change within the legal community. Whether it’s advocating for better representation, establishing legal education through CLEs, or just showing up for one another, Ronda and Frances show how leadership can be equal parts fierce and compassionate.If you’re a young attorney, a woman in law, or simply someone who values justice, mentorship, and empowerment, this episode will leave you inspired—and ready to keep building.

  34. 6

    Cristina Perez and Alejandro Blanco: Relentless in the Courtroom: Catastrophic Injury & Camp Lejeune Litigation

    Episode 6: Cristina Perez and Alejandro Blanco: Relentless in the Courtroom: Catastrophic Injury & Camp Lejeune LitigationTrial lawyer Alejandro Blanco brings intensity, precision, and unwavering dedication to catastrophic injury and environmental exposure cases, including Camp Lejeune claims. Known for his fearless advocacy and strategic command, Alejandro is a force in the courtroom—and a compelling voice on the mic.🎙 Episode 6: Relentless in the Courtroom – Catastrophic Injury & Camp Lejeune LitigationGuest: Alejandro Blanco, Trial LawyerIn this powerful episode of Verdicts & Vogue, Cristina Perez Hesano sits down with trial lawyer Alejandro Blanco for a raw, thought-provoking conversation that spans the personal, the professional, and the deeply human.Alejandro opens up about his journey from medicine-aspiring son of a doctor to one of the nation's most respected catastrophic injury and brain injury attorneys. With four decades of legal experience, his perspective goes beyond strategy—anchored in emotional truth, courtroom vulnerability, and what it means to advocate for the dignity of others.From his early days to his impactful present, Alejandro shares how personal experience with hearing loss shaped his empathy and sharpened his focus on neurological dysfunction and traumatic brain injuries (TBIs). He recalls landmark cases—including a $25 million verdict—where he found himself in a “portal” with the jury, describing a surreal connection forged through emotional authenticity and self-awareness.In this episode, Alejandro and Cristina dissect:The Art of Trial Advocacy: Why real connection—not theatrics—wins juries, and how understanding your own biases and vulnerabilities is the key to truth-telling in court.The Invisible Toll of TBIs: From auditory dysfunctions to hallucinations and post-traumatic stress, Alejandro breaks down how brain injury victims live through devastating symptoms—often unseen by the world around them.Technology in the Courtroom: Using immersive visuals and client-triggered demonstrations, Alejandro explains how he helps juries experience what his clients live with—turning complex neurological diagnoses into stories of real, daily impact.Life After Injury: Beyond verdicts, he reflects on what clients truly want—dignity, normalcy, and the chance to live a life that still feels their own.They also dive into Alejandro’s current leadership role in the Camp Lejeune litigation, where he advocates for thousands of veterans and civilians suffering from Parkinson’s and other neurological damage tied to water contamination. His work continues to be a voice for those whose injuries have robbed them of stability, peace, and recognition.And it’s not just about law. Alejandro gives listeners a glimpse into his personal life—his marriage, his daughters, his Argentine roots, and the comfort of fresh-baked chipa bread. His wisdom is grounded, his words exact, and his mission clear: help others live with dignity, especially when the world has taken so much from them.This episode is a masterclass in courtroom presence, medical storytelling, and legal compassion. Whether you’re an attorney, advocate, or someone navigating life after trauma, Alejandro’s insights will leave a lasting mark.🧠 “What is it worth to live the life of a brain-damaged person?”💬 “We don’t deliver justice. We give our clients the tools to fight with dignity.”Now streaming on all platforms. Don’t miss it.#VerdictsAndVogue #Episode6 #CristinaPerezHesano #AlejandroBlanco #BrainInjuryAwareness #TrialLawyer #CampLejeune #LegalAdvocacy #CourtroomStrategy #JusticeWithDignity #TBIRecovery #CatastrophicInjury #RelentlessAdvocacy #PsychologicalImpact #TraumaLitigation #NowStreaming

  35. 5

    Cristina and Jill McMahon, LPC: The Power of Grief, the Strength in Letting Go

    Episode 5: Cristina and Jill McMahon, LPC: The Power of Grief, the Strength in Letting Go In this powerful episode of Verdicts & Vogue, host Cristina Perez Hesano is joined by close friend and grief counselor Jill McMahon, LPC for a deeply honest conversation on trauma, healing, boundaries, and growth. With a friendship spanning over 14 years, Cristina and Jill reflect on the chapters of life that shaped them—through motherhood, infertility, career transitions, and personal pain—and how showing up for one another changed their lives.Cristina shares how a simple moment—challenging Jill over drinks to step into her potential—led to Jill launching her own grief and trauma counseling practice. Jill went on to dedicate over two decades to working with families who’ve lost a loved one to suicide, providing postvention care at the scene and supporting communities in crisis. Today, she trains mental health professionals and first responders nationwide, helping others deliver the same compassionate care that she has offered so many over the years.The conversation delves into the burden of secondary trauma—especially in high-pressure professions like law and mental health. Cristina and Jill draw parallels between their work: both require holding space for others, absorbing trauma, and helping people through their darkest moments. Jill shares practical insights on setting emotional boundaries, learning to turn work off at the end of the day, and the long-term cost of ignoring burnout.Cristina opens up about her own past—surviving childhood sexual abuse and the years she spent carrying that burden. With Jill’s friendship and guidance, Cristina found the strength to confront that trauma, receive an apology from her abuser, and forgive—not for them, but for herself. It’s a powerful reminder that healing often begins when we choose to let go and create space for something better.Their shared identity as spin instructors is also explored. While they both lead early morning classes filled with music and motivation, those workouts represent something deeper: structure, therapy, and a consistent way to reset their minds. For Jill and Cristina, cycling isn’t just a job—it’s a tool for resilience.The episode also highlights Jill’s latest chapter: publishing her first book,“Bulletproof: Healing After Gun Violence and Trauma.”Written for survivors, caregivers, and clinicians, Bulletproof is a guide to understanding the long-term emotional impact of mass shootings and community violence. Jill explains how survivors often become invisible just days after tragedies, and why it’s crucial to return the focus to healing—not politics. The book offers clinical insight, emotional validation, and practical tools for those navigating life after trauma.For attorneys, clinicians, or anyone carrying the weight of others’ pain, this episode is a must-listen. It’s a call to recognize when you need rest, when to set boundaries, and how to prioritize your own healing in the process. Cristina and Jill prove that friendship, reflection, and honest conversations can be the foundation for personal and professional transformation.Listen now to Episode 5 — streaming on Verdicts & Vogue wherever you get your podcasts.

  36. 4

    Cristina Perez and Ilya Lerma: Power, Presence & the $10 Million Dollar Pushback

    Episode 4: Cristina Perez and Ilya Lerma: Power, Presence & the $10 Million Dollar PushbackIn this episode of Verdicts & Vogue, Cristina Perez Hesano welcomes her friend, colleague, and fellow trial warrior Ilya Lerma for a raw and insightful conversation about life in the courtroom, in leadership, and as women balancing it all.Ilya shares the backstory behind one of her most significant career moments — a $10 million medical malpractice verdict, the second-largest in Arizona, following a grueling trial marked by limited evidence, extreme bias in jury selection, and a panel that almost fell apart. With clarity and humility, she walks Cristina through how she managed the trial’s intense pressure, including prepping for closing arguments while literally sewing a ripped skirt minutes before stepping up for rebuttal.They reflect on how personal injury work tests not just your legal skills but your emotional strength, strategic patience, and sense of identity. Ilya discusses the emotional fallout of navigating trial culture as a Latina woman, how gendered expectations shape courtroom interactions, and why it took years to build her own confidence, boundaries, and support systems. Together, Cristina and Ilya explore the fine line between toughness and vulnerability — and how to use both to your advantage.Beyond the trial stories, the episode dives into deeper themes:Changing your name as a professional woman: What it means when your legal identity, law license, and brand are all tied to the name you started with.The myth of balance: Ilya shares how she shifted from trying to do everything perfectly to learning the power of saying “no,” redefining success, and finally prioritizing her health and family.What juries really think: From misunderstanding who pays a verdict to language and bias in voir dire, Ilya breaks down how juror perceptions can shape everything — and how women attorneys can better manage those narratives.Mentorship & connection: Ilya speaks on her experience with the national legal education platform Connectionology and the importance of building a legal career that honors your values and vision.There’s laughter, there are lessons, and there’s a reminder that the strongest trial lawyers are often those who’ve lived through the most personal growth.This episode is for every attorney who’s felt like they were doing too much and still not enough. It’s for women who’ve built careers while raising families, navigating co-counsel dynamics, and refusing to fit into anyone else’s mold.🧠 Verdicts & Vogue is hosted by Cristina Perez Hesano of Perez Law Group in Phoenix, Arizona — a Latina trial attorney using this platform to give voice to real experiences inside and outside the courtroom.🎧 Tune in for war stories, hard-won wisdom, and a few unexpected laughs.#CristinaPerezHesano #IlyaLerma #VerdictsAndVogue #LatinaTrialLawyer #PersonalInjuryLaw #ArizonaLaw #WomenInLaw #CourtroomStories #TrialTalk #LegalMentorship #WorkLifeRealness #LawAndLife

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    Cristina Perez and Kari Ramos: Strength Through Adversity, Leadership Through Experience

    Episode 3: Cristina Perez and Kari Ramos: Strength Through Adversity, Leadership Through ExperienceIn this powerful and deeply human episode of Verdicts & Vogue, Cristina Perez sits down with attorney and advocate Kari Ramos for a candid and wide-ranging conversation about strength, personal growth, and the often-unseen sides of practicing law as a woman.From growing up in a rural Nevada town with no grocery store or law enforcement to becoming a legal force of her own, Kari shares how her upbringing shaped her curiosity, independence, and resilience. She opens up about the early chapters of her life—being one of eight children, learning grit through family survival, and building people skills through jobs like bartending, sales, and even an unexpected journey into beauty pageants that taught her the power of public presence and personal branding.But the conversation digs even deeper. Kari vulnerably shares how her experience as a victim of sexual assault led her to law school—not to chase prestige, but to give a voice to others who often feel unheard. This pivotal experience reshaped her worldview and ignited a passion for advocacy rooted in empathy, presence, and integrity.Cristina and Kari explore how being an empath is both a gift and a challenge in the legal field. Kari describes how she navigates the emotional weight of trauma-heavy cases by intentionally restoring her senses—sight, hearing, and touch—after intense days of client grief, medical images, or heartbreaking testimonies. It’s a perspective rarely shared so openly in the legal profession.The episode also highlights Kari's unexpected journey into horse training—yes, wild horse training—which she credits with teaching her patience, influence over control, and the importance of doing something before you’re ready. Her story of impulsively buying two wild horses during a cross-country road trip (and lying about having a “horse port”) is both hilarious and profoundly illustrative of her mindset: jump in, then figure it out with humility and resourcefulness.Cristina also invites Kari to reflect on a recent chapter of personal adversity—supporting her fiancé through a life-threatening medical emergency. Without going into private details, Kari shares the hard-earned lessons about grace under pressure, character built in quiet moments, and how small habits like daily gratitude can become life-saving anchors in crisis.Throughout the episode, the two attorneys exchange real-world insights on what it means to be a woman in law—how ego, reputation, and fear often block collaboration, and how asking for help, even as a seasoned professional, can redefine your career. From difficult professional lessons to moments of quiet mentorship, this episode is a masterclass in authenticity, vulnerability, and the quiet power of doing the right thing.Whether you’re a young attorney, a survivor, a leader, or simply someone navigating hard things, Kari’s story is a reminder that you don’t need all the answers to get started—you just need the courage to move forward before you're ready.

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    Cristina Perez and Jonathan Negretti: Leading with Heart, Advocacy, Life, and Law

    Episode 2 - Cristina Perez and Jonathan Negretti: Leading with Heart, Advocacy, Life, and Law. In this episode of Verdicts and Vogue, Cristina Perez welcomes trial lawyer Jonathan Negretti for a candid and inspiring conversation about leadership, client relationships, and what it truly means to serve others through the work you do. Jonathan opens up about his journey from humble beginnings to building his own law firm, sharing how the connections he’s made with clients have shaped both his career and his life.But it’s not all serious talk — Cristina also puts Jonathan in the hot seat with some fun rapid-fire questions, including “What’s your death row meal?” and “What’s the secret to running a law firm (and a podcast) without losing your mind?” The two also chat about funding a law firm from the ground up, the realities of balancing passion projects, and Jonathan’s wild experience taking on the World Marathon Challenge — seven marathons on seven continents in seven days.This episode dives into the heart of advocacy, the courage to say no, and the evolving definition of success — all while sharing a few good laughs along the way.🎧 Subscribe now to Verdicts and Vogue for more inspiring conversations at the intersection of law, leadership, and lifestyle.Website: https://perezlawgroup.com/Visit our Social Media Profiles!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/verdicts_and_vogue/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/VerdictsandVogue/Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/verdicts-and-vogue/

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    Cristina and the Kids: Love, Law, and Laughter

    Episode 1 – Cristina and the Kids: Love, Law and LaughterWelcome to the very first episode of Verdicts & Vogue, hosted by Latina trial attorney Cristina Perez Hesano. There’s no better way to begin this podcast journey than by sitting down with the people who know her best—her kids.In this candid and heartfelt conversation, Cristina’s children open up about what life is like growing up with a mom who balances motherhood and a demanding career as a trial lawyer. From their favorite family memories and birthday traditions to the realities of having a mother who’s constantly fighting for justice in and out of the courtroom, this episode offers a rare glimpse into Cristina’s life beyond the legal world.Whether you’re a working mom, a fellow attorney, or someone navigating work-life balance, this family-focused episode delivers laughter, love, and meaningful perspective. Get to know Cristina Perez Hesano as not just a powerhouse Latina lawyer—but as a mother, mentor, and role model.🎧 Subscribe now to Verdicts & Vogue for more inspiring conversations at the intersection of law, leadership, and lifestyle.Website: https://perezlawgroup.com/Visit our Social Media Profiles!Instagram:

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Join Attorney Cristina Perez Hesano in Verdicts & Vogue, a podcast that brings together the world of law and lifestyle in an insightful and engaging way. Episodes feature interviews with top legal professionals as they explore pressing issues in various areas of law and precedents. This podcast goes beyond the courtroom—Cristina and her guests dive into the realities of owning a law firm, being a business owner, and navigating the challenges faced by women in business and working moms.

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