PODCAST · education
werkbook
by Tyson Seburn
Welcome to werkbook, where Queerness and ELT intersect. This podcast project brings together Taylor Veigga, Tyson Seburn, and nine ELT folx to explore LGBTQ topics that affect queer people in different contexts, sometimes the same way and sometimes very differently. We'll hear experiences that sound familiar, some that are very difficult, and some that show the joyful and colourful impact being queer has for us and others around us.
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Episode 5: Ani's werkbook
Welcome to this episode of werkbook! Tyson Seburn & Taylor Veigga explore what being Queer actually looks like for eleven Queer ELT folx—across cultures, generations, religions, and life stages.EXCLUSIVE RELEASE @ #IATEFL2026In this episode, Ani, a Brazilian educator who identifies as travesti, shares her journey from navigating gender identity in a conservative environment to building a fulfilling life in São Paulo. Our conversation explores language, identity, queer visibility, cultural norms, and the power of representation—moving from personal struggle to joy, love, and future possibility. It’s a grounded, deeply human look at how vocabulary, community, and visibility can help us be who we are in all ways. .EPISODE GUIDE00:00 Intro & meeting Annie 04:05 Identity, teaching & finding a way through 05:00 Moving to São Paulo for safety and freedom 09:10 Culture, masculinity & being visible 15:00 Language, labels & reclaiming words 19:45 Religion, silence & early self-discovery 30:00 Gender roles & the pressure to perform 36:45 School, allies & early confidence 37:30 Pop culture, Gaga & representation 47:00 Allyship & asking better questions 55:00 Queer joy, love & building a future 1:00:10 Final thoughts on real allyship
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Episode 4: Gaye's werkbook
Welcome to this episode of werkbook! Tyson Seburn & Taylor Veigga explore what being Queer actually looks like for eleven Queer ELT folx—across cultures, generations, religions, and life stages. In this episode, we meet with Gaye (he/she/they), who is from Türkiye. They are pansexual and bigender. Most of us don’t grow up with the words to describe our identities that clearly; in fact, we aren’t encouraged to. In this episode, Gaye reflects on how that absence shaped their understanding of gender and sexuality while growing up in a conservative, under-resourced context. They talk about working as a queer educator in an environment where openness isn’t always possible—supporting students who are asking similar questions, often without the language to do so. Gaye also traces how access (or lack of it) to media and representation influenced that process: from discovering shows like The L Word to recognising how mainstream portrayals can both illuminate and distort queer lives.The conversation also touches on family, particularly Gaye’s relationship with their mother, and the complicated mix of care, silence, and expectation that comes with it. Throughout, Gaye returns to the role of education—not as a grand solution, but as a daily, practical way of making space for honesty, visibility, and small shifts in understanding.If you believe that stories like Gaye’s aren’t heard enough in ELT contexts, I’m so happy you’re here to listen to our latest episode.EPISODE GUIDE00:20 — Identity and labels02:32 — Language, survival, and growing up in Türkiye06:20 — English opens up more possibilities08:25 — The L Word, awareness, and distorted expectations14:04 — Performing identity in restrictive environments19:42 — Mental health for self-understanding22:18 — Professional life and pressure25:02 — Grief and its relationship to queerness28:39 — Queerness as motivation and connection31:03 — Gaye's queer joy with students* All voice clips used are done so for lighthearted entertainment and often educational purposes under the creative commons licensing.* Intro and outro logo combined from music by Gamemaster Audio and AM Beef. Some background music by Diamonds And Ice. Queer joy background music by Jane The Boy.
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Episode 3: Chad's werkbook
Welcome to this episode of werkbook! We explore what being Queer actually looks like for eleven Queer ELT folx—across cultures, generations, religions, and life stages. Thank you, from hosts Tyson Seburn and Taylor Veigga, for caring and sharing inside and outside our communities!In this episode, we share space with Chad Langford, a Queer American, who is a language teacher living in France for forever. Warning: there may be a little spicy language, but only until we reclaim it for ourselves.EPISODE GUIDE0:23 🧙🏻♀️ Tyson & Taylor say heyyyy2:08 🧙🏻♀️ Ty & Tay are pronunciation queens3:27 🧙🏻♀️ Chad clocks himself5:14 🧙🏻♀️ Language bites until you don't let it14:03 🧙🏻♀️ Growing up in our hometowns17:50 🧙🏻♀️ Parking lots, bookstores, and balls25:29 🧙🏻♀️ Bullying wasn't equal for everyone30:52 🧙🏻♀️ Coming out, pt. 333:36 🧙🏻♀️ Queer rep in the 80s37:46 🧙🏻♀️ Did we date in highschool?42:30 🧙🏻♀️ French Queerness as an adult46:20 🧙🏻♀️ Chad on lost solidarity49:11 🧙🏻♀️ Witchy Queer joy boyChad refers to Consenting Adult (1985) and Tyson talks about The Golden Girls, S2E11 "Isn't It Romantic?" (1987).* All voice clips used are done so for lighthearted entertainment and often educational purposes under the creative commons licensing.* Intro and outro logo combined from music by Gamemaster Audio and AM Beef. Inserted micromusic clips include "Blame It on the Edit" by Rupaul and "Ein Lied für Barbara" by Heideboys. Queer joy background music by Jane The Boy.
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Episode 2: Coming Out, Pt. 2
Welcome to this episode of werkbook! We explore what coming out to family actually looks like—across cultures, generations, religions, and life stages. Tyson and Taylor include personal reflections on coming out to parents in Canada and Brazil shaped by religion, fear, and love, and situate these stories in and out of the broader contexts explored by the nine guests we get to hear from.From there, we hear a range of voices: people who lived double lives to survive at home, those who are selectively out due to culture or language, those who never got to come out to a parent who passed away, and others whose families quietly “already knew.” The episode closes with joyful, affirming stories of support—while still acknowledging that coming out is rarely a single moment, but a series of ongoing negotiations shaped by safety, timing, and love.Section 1 - This common experience with parents00:10:05 — Ani (Brazil)Growing up evangelical, living a double life, and finding school—not home—as a safe space.00:15:39 — Kanako (Japan)Not being out to family, managing visibility on social media, and the limits of selective disclosure.00:26:16 — Gaye (Türkiye)Grief, generational limits, and coming out to a parent only after their death.Section 2 - It's understood00:29:59 — Elizabeth (UK)A matter-of-fact, almost accidental coming out where queerness was already assumed.Section 3 - We love you.00:35:47 — Chad (USA)Coming out first to an aunt, then to parents—and reflections on the paths we choose to do so.00:41:03 — Giovanni (Italy)A joyful, theatrical family “intervention” that ends in laughter and relief.00:44:49 — Ethan (Vietnam)Immediate parental affirmation and the privilege of unconditional support.Section 4 - Out isn't just to parents.00:50:10 — David (Canada)Later-in-life coming out within a marriage, moving from queer theory to lived clarity.Section 5 - Rounding things out00:58:30 — Mitts (Brazil)His mom was the gay beard until she wasn't and then she was again.* All clips used are done so for educational purposes under the creative commons licensing.* Intro music clips by Gamemaster Audio and AM Beef. Background music includes Aryeh "I Love You", Oded Distalmen "Coucou", and Dreamy Drums - Rhythmic Chop Beat.
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Episode 1: Coming Out, Pt. 1
Welcome to our first episode, where we come out together as a community, podcast hosts, and podcast editors! Taylor says it best when she describes the stories we include as being "unpolished". Taylor & Tyson discuss the origin of this project, the meaning behind the name (it's not incorrect spelling, we swear!), coming out stories, the phrase itself, and ways in which media has shaped the view of coming out. We attempt to show how we're merging two worlds: queerness and education.Episode breakdown:A - 0:00 IntroductionsB - 5:02 Why werkbook is neededC - 11:15 Coming Out Day historyD - 13:50 Taylor & Tyson discuss coming out storiesE - 18:57 Coming out vs Inviting inF - 21:15 HeartstopperG - 29:00 Elliott PageH - 34:40 Preview of S1E2* We refer to Human Rights Campaign and National Coming Out Day. Find out more here: https://www.hrc.org/campaigns/national-coming-out-day* All media clips used are done so for educational purposes under the creative commons licensing.* Intro music clips by Gamemaster Audio and AM Beef. Background music includes Like a Father.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Welcome to werkbook, where Queerness and ELT intersect. This podcast project brings together Taylor Veigga, Tyson Seburn, and nine ELT folx to explore LGBTQ topics that affect queer people in different contexts, sometimes the same way and sometimes very differently. We'll hear experiences that sound familiar, some that are very difficult, and some that show the joyful and colourful impact being queer has for us and others around us.
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Tyson Seburn
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