What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It

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What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It

Exploring the key go-to-market challenges that SaaS organisations face and how to overcome them to ensure success.

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    Growth Architecture pt4

    Welcome to What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.As we bring to a close our topic arc on growth architecture, in this episode we arrive at the critical shift from insight to action — and specifically at the question of why most SaaS revenue leaders are solving the wrong problem. Here's the TL;DL: Most SaaS leaders think their problem is forecasting. It isn't. The forecast is just the output. If the number is wrong, it's because the system producing it is broken. Stop trying to predict the number, start designing the system that produces it.Read more on this topic in the corresponding edition of Louis' What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It newsletter.Other mentions in this episode:Episode 40 on causal analytics with Mark Stouse, CEO at Proof Causal.aiEpisode 48 when we covered Monte Carlo simulations in depthFollow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Growth Architecture pt3

    Episode 48 - Growth Architecture pt3Welcome to What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each episode, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues. Louis has been organizing the inaugural Winning By Design Growth Institute UK London chapter meet-up taking place on the 22 April. Some existing Winning By Design revenue architects will be coming along and introducing a number of the concepts we've been talking about on the podcast, making for an interesting evening. Get in touch to apply for an invitation. Meanwhile the Accenture Song Rethink Replay series has now concluded, featuring full sessions from last year's conference that are available for anyone to watch. As we near the conclusion of our growth architecture topic arc, in this episode we arrive at forecasting. Here’s the TL;DL (“Too Long; Didn’t Listen) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode: Most forecasts assume certainty when none exists. The problem though isn't bad data, it's bad assumptions about how systems behave. The reality is that revenue is not a fixed outcome, it's a range of probabilistic outcomes. Read more on this topic in the corresponding edition of Louis’ What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It newsletter. Other mentions in this episode: Matthew Codd's BDR hiring LinkedIn post Follow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Growth Architecture Part 2

    Episode 47 - Growth Architecture Part 2 Welcome to What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues. Louis is in the process of reviewing a new book that's out by JD Miller, called the AI Handbook for Sales Professionals. JD is actually, now an operating partner for Rothchild and Co Five Arrows, and he's exited about five different businesses successfully as CRO, which gives him a unique lens to be able to look at how companies really grow revenue and what they need to be doing. Louis will let is know what he thinks about the book after he’s finished reading it! In this episode we continue our topic arc on growth architecture, turning our attention to revenue systems. Here’s the TL;DL (“Too Long; Didn’t Listen) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode:  Most SaaS companies think they have one revenue engine when in reality they have many, and each one behaves differently. If you try to forecast them as one system, you don't get accuracy, you get averages, and average is hide reality. Read more on this topic in the corresponding edition of Louis’ What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It newsletter. Other mentions in this episode: Ian Truscott’s Hope in a Strategy LinkedIn newsletter article that Louis and Simon mention BONUS LINK! Simon’s April Fool LinkedIn post! Follow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.  

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    Growth Architecture Part 1

    Episode 46- Growth Architecture Part 1Welcome to What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.Louis explains why, in a change to our scheduled programming, we won’t be covering forcasting after all and instead returning to it at the end of our new topic arc, Growth Architecture, leading on from Revenue Architecture that we've been discussing recently.Here’s the TL;DL (“Too Long; Didn’t Listen) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode:  Most SaaS companies think growth is a pipeline problem, so when revenue slows, they focus on generating more activity. SaaS growth doesn't behave linearly like that though, it behaves multiplicatively across the entire customer journey. That means if the system is broken, adding more volume just scales that inefficiency. Growth architecture helps solve that problem.Read more on this topic in the corresponding edition of Louis’ What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It newsletter.Follow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Revenue Architecture Part 4

    Episode 45- Revenue Architecture Part 4Welcome to What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.Louis has recently taken on the role of UK Chapter Lead for Winning by Design's Growth Institute and was buzzing from his first official Impact Roadshow in London. The event saw a real shift in revenue‑leadership thinking, from “do more” to “do better (and sometimes smarter)” and noted how this will shape future conversations around growth architecture and the rising role of AI. Louis and Simon also note the recent, infamous Citrini Research blog post on the future of AI and the impact on SaaS, and agree to circle back to it in a future episode.We roll on to part four of our Revenue Architecture topic arc, this time discussing growth methods and the benchmarking model. Here’s the TL;DL (“Too Long; Didn’t Listen) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode:  Growth is not about adding levers. More levers don't fix weak mechanics. Benchmarks don't mean what you think they mean. A benchmark without context is just theatre.Read more on this topic in the corresponding editions (part 7 and part 8) of Louis’ What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It newsletter.Other mentions in this episode:Winning by Design's Bowtie BenchmarksFollow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Revenue Architecture Part 3

    Episode 44 - Revenue Architecture Part 3Welcome to What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.Louis and Simon reflect on the success of the previous episode’s bot takeover and Louis joins friend of the show and RevvedUp.ai Co-Founder Mark Walker (who joined us on episode 5 to discuss segmentation, targeting and positioning) for a webinar discussing the true impact of ABM in 2026. We’re up to episode three of our Revenue Architecture topic arc and we’re covering the GTM and growth stages models. Here’s the TL;DL (“Too Long; Didn’t Listen) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode: Your GTM motion has got to align with your maths and your system has to evolve with your stage. If either of those is out of date, more effort is not going to fix it.Read more on this topic in the corresponding editions (part 5 and part 6) of Louis’ What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It newsletter.Follow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Revenue Architecture Part 2

    Episode 43- Revenue Architecture Part 2Welcome to What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.Louis is back in Porto and has been working with Founders Founders again to support development of future tech unicorns. Simon notes that another business to have previously benefited from Louis’ sage advice, Parloa, have just close a $400mn funding round to achieve a $3bn valuation. All being well, Louis will be sprinkling some of his start-up fairy dust across the Porto tech scene too! It’s the second episode of our topic arc on Revenue Architecture and we look at the data model and the mathematical model, building on what we talked about last time. Here’s the TL;DL (“Too Long; Didn’t Listen) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode: We are going to get into why managing conversion and time beats managing volumes, and why revenue growth behaves like a compounding system, not a linear plan.And we’re doing something a little different for this episode. In the spirit of innovation and experimentation we’re handing the discussion over to Notebook LM. Our AI presenters are going to discuss the data and mathematics models, so let’s see how they get on. Do let Louis and I know what you think! Read more on this topic in the corresponding editions (part 3 and part 4) of Louis’ What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It newsletter.Follow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Revenue Architecture Part 1

    Episode 42 - Revenue Architecture Part 1Welcome to What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.We’re back from the Christmas break with a brand new content arc, details to follow. Simon and Louis note that this being episode 42, regardless of the topic, they will of course be covering life, the universe, and everything…! In other news, the podcast moves to a bi-weekly (that is, every other week) publishing cadence, so be sure to subscribe in your preferred podcast app to avoid missing an episode.The new topic arc spanning the next several episodes is going to deep take us on a deep dive into Revenue Architecture. Here’s the TL;DL (“Too Long; Didn’t Listen) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode: Most GTM systems don't fail. They simply never become a functioning system. We're going start unpacking how revenue architecture really addresses creating that functioning system.Read more on this topic in the corresponding editions (part 1 and part 2) of Louis’ What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It newsletter.Other mentions in this episode:Guy Rubin, MD Insights, FullcastEpisode 40 with Mark Stouse, CEO at Proof Causal.ai on causal analyticsFollow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Christmas Cognoscenti Interview: Isa Sher

    Episode 41 - Christmas Cognoscenti Interview: Isa Sher Welcome to What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues. Simon hits day sixty in his new role at Accenture Song which he marks with a LinkedIn post about the topic clients most want to talk about, go-to-market measurement. Meanwhile, Louis is treating us to some truly awful (and entirely non-AI generated) Christmas jumpers in his 12 Days of GTM Christmas LinkedIn series. This week the Christmas Cognoscenti mini-series reaches its conclusion as we speak to Isa Sher at Cognism about what GTM looks like for the next generation of revenue leaders. Here’s the TL;DL (“Too Long; Didn’t Listen) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode:  Most of our guests are seasoned GTM leaders, who've already in inverted commas made it. Today we're doing something a little bit different. We're talking to somebody still on the climb. We're going to explore how the next cohort of leaders are experiencing today's GTM paradigm as they become the leaders of tomorrow. Other mentions in this episode: Cold Calling Live Letter: The double life of the family office executive – the other reference to pottery as stressbusting pastime that Simon was trying to remember! [Subscription required] Follow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.  

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    Christmas Cognoscenti Interview: Mark Stouse

    Episode 40 - Christmas Cognoscenti Interview with Mark StouseWelcome to What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.The Christmas Cognoscenti mini-series to close-out the year continues. Last week Louis and Simon spoke to Mark Sherwood Edwards from Clearview Legal who let us know afterwards that he felt one of his final answers wasn’t his best work so he wrote-up a better version in his Oh Lawdy! newsletter! We though the original was fine, you can judge for yourselves…This week we are joined by Mark Stouse, CEO at Proof Causal.ai to introduce us to the exciting world of causal analytics. Here’s the TL;DL (“Too Long; Didn’t Listen) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode: Most GTM metrics are correlative, not causal, and that means most SaaS companies are optimizing for noise, not impact. Causal analytics identifies what actually drives revenue in an open, noisy system, quantifies the time lags between activities and results, and tells leaders where to invest for sustainable compounding growth.Listen on as we explore how causal AI transforms go-to-market strategy by replacing correlation-based assumptions with cause-and-effect insights. Mark emphasizes that most GTM outcomes depend on factors beyond immediate control, making traditional short-term tactics ineffective. With deal cycles lengthening, CAC rising, and attribution models failing, leaders must adopt analytics that reveal true drivers of performance. Causal AI enables this by modelling dynamic systems, operationalizing insights, and guiding decisions like a GPS. Finance teams increasingly mandate its use Mark tells us, reinforced by global regulatory demands. For CROs, the path forward is to learn, experiment, and leverage results to scale adoption.Other mentions in this episode:Simon’s LinkedIn AI analytics postMark’s article LinkedIn archiveFollow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Christmas Cognoscenti Interview: Mark Sherwood-Edwards

    Episode 39- Christmas Cognoscenti Interview: Mark Sherwood-EdwardsWelcome to What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.Back in the summer, Louis and Simon spoke to the Summer Cognoscenti and they’re closing out the year chatting with another set of leading thinkers spanning go-to-market with the Christmas Cognoscenti mini-series.We kick off our with sales-side lawyer Mark Sherwood Edwards from Clearview Legal. Here’s the TL;DL (“Too Long; Didn’t Listen) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode:  If you've ever wondered why your MSA reads like the Dead Sea Scrolls, why procurement becomes the pantomime villain in Q4, or why half your legal clauses contradict your own product, you’re about to find out what to do about it.Listen on as we learn how a lot of SaaS companies create friction that slows deals and confuses customers with legal frameworks that don't reflect how their business actually works. Simplicity, proportionality, and clarity dramatically improved deal velocity, reduce negotiation pain and build trust with procurement. In the absence of a robust approach to handling contracts and the myriad other legal considerations facing SaaS revenue leaders, there’s a considerable risk of everything going to pieces.Other mentions in this episode:Mark’s Oh Lawdy! NewsletterFollow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Setting-up for FY26

    Episode 38 - Setting-up for FY26Welcome to What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.Louis and Simon tee-up this week’s conversation by reflecting on their experience of companies’ fiscal years starts. Most run January to December, according to Simon’s research, although there are notable exceptions! When is yours?Regardless of whether or not your fiscal year starts in January, this week we take a look at how to get the year off to a good start. Here’s the TL;DL (“Too Long; Didn’t Listen) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode: You can finish the year well and still start the next one badly. Q4 isn't about landing the number, it's about creating strategic clarity, capability, and momentum that your team will carry into the new financial year. So great leaders don't wait for January to set direction, they use Q4 to build it.Listen on to find out why closing the year is all about execution, while preparing for the next one is all about leadership, and the best revenue leaders don't separate the two. Q4 isn’t just a race to the finish line, it’s the leadership window that defines the first 12 weeks of the new financial year. While most organisations focus exclusively on closing the year, high-performing GTM leaders use the final weeks to reset strategy, rebuild clarity, re-energise teams, and set the early momentum for the next fiscal year.Follow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Andy Champion & Wayne Starritt

    Episode 37- Andy Champion & Wayne StarrittWelcome to What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.Louis and Simon give a shout out to friend of the show Helen Sutton who is publishing a “5 Best (and 5 Toughest) Things About…” LinkedIn post series, which just arrived at Revenue Operations. Needless to say, Simon is very pleased for his people to be recognised!This week we are joined by Wayne Starritt and Andy Champion to look at the CROs Who Succeed report that Wayne's firm, Bullingstone Associates has just published. Here’s the TL;DL (“Too Long; Didn’t Listen) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode:  We're going to explore what operating partners have learned from seeing dozens of revenue leaders succeed and fail across their portfolios and discuss the six traits that truly predict CRO success today.Listen on as Louis discusses with Wayne and Andy why many CROs fail and how organizations can reverse the trend. Short tenures often stem from misaligned expectations and outdated hiring practices that prioritise pedigree over adaptability. The report identifies six traits that predict success, and of course we couldn’t not mention Andy’s “Three Cs”! Ultimately, companies that hire for traits rather than titles, define roles based on context, and foster diagnostic discipline will create revenue leadership that thrives beyond the 18-month cycle.Follow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    ART of Winning Beyond the 5%

    Episode 36- ART of Winning Beyond the 5%Welcome to What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Simon Danielsand guest co-host Ian Truscott. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.Louis is on the road to Porto so Simon is joined by B2B tech go-to-market advisory consultancy, Velocity B’s Ian Truscott as guest co-host on this week’s episode! Ian explains that he and his partner Alex Simonson help primarily smaller and growth B2B tech organizations accelerate their sales and marketing, with a particular focus on alignment across the “revenue department” as well as wider corporate objectives. Ian is right at home on this podcast!This week we talk about how to approach the long tail of buyers who are not actually in market. Here’s the TL;DL (“Too Long; Didn’t Listen) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode: Create ART - Awareness, Revenue, and Trust - to beat your competitors to address the 95% of your future buyers who are not currently in market.Listen on as Simon and Ian explore how B2B marketers can win beyond the 5% of buyers currently in-market by addressing the 95% who are future buyers. Ian emphasizes that early-stage decision-making now happens before sales engagement, making brand-building essential. Over-focusing on short-term lead generation neglects the long-term benefits of awareness and trust, which reduce friction and amplify revenue efforts. Ian’s ART framework - Awareness, Revenue, Trust - offers a balanced approach: educate and build visibility, drive demand for active buyers, and foster trust through advocacy and consistent experiences. Companies that invest steadily in brand see significant long-term gains, positioning themselves to convert tomorrow’s buyers into loyal customers.Read more on this topic in Ian’s blog post on the Velocity B website.Other mentions in this episode:Rockstar CMO podcastIan’s newsletter edition discussing the role that Marketing should play in sales methodologiesThe Long and the Short of it: Balancing Short and Long-Term Marketing Strategies by Les Binet and Peter FieldUncensored CMOFollow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Closing Out 2025

    Episode 35- Closing Out 2025Welcome to What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.Louis announces the new website for his consultancy business Magnitude 10 Associates and invites feedback on his web coding handywork! In addition to outlining his offerings GTM advisory, strategy, sales enablement, and propositions, Louis is also building out the site with back issues of the What's Broken in GTM blog together with episodes of the podcast. Over time, this should become a pretty handy resource for all things go-to-market`This week we look towards the end of the year and discuss how to successfully close out 2025. Here’s the TL;DL (“Too Long; Didn’t Listen) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode: In that final stretch of Q4, every SaaS revenue leader feels the tension between managing the number and leading the team. The instinct is to double down on inspection. More meetings, more dashboards, more pressure. But the leaders who actually land the year successfully don't manage harder, they lead better.Listen on as Louis and Simon emphasise that finishing Q4 strong is less about frantic activity and more about disciplined leadership. Panic-driven over-inspection undermines trust and creates chaos, while maintaining cadence, clarity, and confidence ensures stability. Leaders should focus on proactive deal management - rigorous qualification, stakeholder engagement, and clear action plans - without abandoning established processes. Enablement and RevOps must support consistency rather than last-minute fixes, and frontline managers should model calm, composed behaviours. Ultimately, how teams are led in Q4 shapes organizational culture for Q1: fear breeds dysfunction, while confidence builds momentum. Success comes from leadership that prioritizes clarity, cadence, and coaching over heroics.Read more on this topic in the corresponding edition of Louis’ What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It newsletter.Follow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Sales Methodologies pt7 - Dinner Party Discussion

    Episode 34 - Sales Methodologies pt7 - Dinner Party DiscussionWelcome to What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.This week we bring our sales methodologies series to a close with a fantastic dinner party discussion when we're joined by Ambre Jeanneau, Ian Truscott and Helen Sutton. Here’s the TL;DL (“Too Long; Didn’t Listen)”) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode: We've been breaking down the major sales methodologies in quite a lot of detail. Each one solves a very different problem, but in the real world, most organizations don't need just one, they need to design the right blend for their motion, their maturity, and their market.Listen on as the discussion highlights that while sales methodologies like MEDDPICC, Challenger, JOLT, and SPICED offer valuable frameworks, their success depends on clarity, cultural fit, and cross-functional alignment. Over-engineering and treating methodologies as administrative tasks undermine adoption. Effective implementation requires strong leadership, integration into daily operations, and clear value for teams. Context is critical – start-ups need flexibility, while enterprises benefit from structured approaches such as MEDDPICC combined with Challenger. Marketing’s involvement and revops orchestration are essential for consistency across the revenue lifecycle. Ultimately, methodologies should enable predictability, growth, and collaboration, not create friction.Other mentions in this episode:The First 90 Days by Michael WatkinsMarketing in the STARS – Ian’s Rockstar CMO Podcast episode on the STARS context modelFollow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Sales Methodologies pt6 - SPICED

    Episode 33 - Sales Methodologies pt6 (SPICED)Welcome to What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.Simon shares exciting news about his new role, bringing a revenue operations capability to account based marketing consultancy MomentumABM. Louis and Simon agree that ensuring ABM has solid operational underpinnings is crucial to success.This week as the sales methodology series draws to a conclusion, we move on to the Winning By Design model, SPICED, designed specifically for recurring revenue businesses.. Here’s the TL;DL (“Too Long; Didn’t Listen)”) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode: SPICED aligns every touchpoint to customer impact, and that's not just for the first order. It overlays the bow tie model, so you sell, deliver, and then re-earn value as a customer.Listen on as Louis explains that SPICED, developed by Winning By Design, is a customer-centric sales methodology tailored for recurring revenue businesses. Unlike traditional funnels that stop at “closed won,” SPICED spans the entire customer lifecycle, ensuring recurring impact through acquisition, retention, and expansion. The acronym for Situation, Pain, Impact, Critical Event, Decision, guides diagnosis and solution design, emphasising both rational and emotional outcomes. Integrated with the bow tie model, SPICED enables seamless handoffs between marketing, sales, and customer success, reducing churn and driving growth through upsell and cross-sell opportunities. By complementing frameworks like SPIN, MEDDICC, and JOLT, SPICED provides a unified approach that aligns all functions around measurable impact and customer success, making it a powerful tool for SaaS and subscription-based organizations.Read more on this topic in the corresponding edition of Louis’ What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It newsletter.Follow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Summer Cognoscenti Interview: Sarah Rhodes (repeat)

    Episode 32 - Summer Cognoscenti Interview: Sarah Rhodes (repeat)Welcome to episode 32of What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.This week Louis is unable to join us for personal reasons, and so we're taking the opportunity to hear again the fabulous Summer Cognoscenti conversation we had with Sarah Rhodes, recruitment director and co-founder at go-to-market recruitment specialists, n8talent. Here’s the original TL;DL (“ Too Long; Didn’t Listen)”) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode: Sarah shares some candid insights into the shifting recruitment landscape, the impact to market conditions on hiring behaviours, and what it really takes to find, hire, and retain top SaaS sales talent.Sarah discusses how market conditions have shifted, influencing hiring behaviours across the SaaS landscape. In a more cautious or volatile market, companies may hesitate to invest in top-tier talent or delay hiring decisions, despite the ultimately negative impact on growth. Another key point Sarah raises the importance of senior sales talent in SaaS. Hiring at this level isn’t just about filling a role; it’s about finding individuals who can drive revenue, shape culture, and scale operations. The businesses willing to take some risks in their approach to growing teams and bringing on new talent, Sarah tells us, are the ones that will succeed. And don’t forget, interviews are a two-way process with the candidate evaluating the employer just as much as the other way round!Follow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Sales Methodologies pt5 - MEDDPICC with Pim Roelofsen

    Episode 31 - Sales Methodologies pt5 - MEDDPICC with Pim RoelofsenWelcome to What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.This week we continue the sales methodology series as we move on to MEDDPICC, which focuses on deal qualification, and we're joined by Pim Roelofsen, Chief Revenue Officer at MEDDICC. Here’s the TL;DL (“Too Long; Didn’t Listen)”) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode: Most sales teams say they qualify deals, but in reality, they're just forecasting hope. MEDDPICC is one of the most rigorous qualification frameworks in sales, and when it's applied properly, it transforms win rates, forecast accuracy, and deal pipeline.Listen on as Pim Roelofsen explains why MEDDPICC is far more than a deal qualification checklist. Rather, he says, it’s a strategic common language that unites marketing, and sales, customer success, and even product teams to deliver cohesive value throughout the customer lifecycle. Originating as a framework to understand why deals are won or lost, MEDDPICC now addresses silos, improves onboarding, and reduces churn. Pim highlights decision criteria as the most impactful element, advocating for proactive shaping rather than reactive collection. He stresses that champions must be cultivated with power, influence, and vested interest, and that qualification is an ongoing process, not a stage. Operational success depends on leadership-driven cadences, cultural trust, and consistent application, avoiding the pitfalls of tick-box usage. Ultimately, MEDDPICC delivers its greatest dividends when adopted organization-wide as a shared language, enabling better buying journeys and stronger revenue outcomes.Read more on this topic in the corresponding edition of Louis’ What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It newsletter.Follow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Sales Methodologies pt4 - The JOLT Effect with Ted McKenna

    Episode 30 - Sales Methodologies pt4 - The JOLT Effect with Ted McKennaWelcome to What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.While putting together a presentation on his favourite topic of buying groups Simon discovered a word apparently missing from American English compared to British English, namely “scuppered”. A quick Friday afternoon LinkedIn post confirmed this is the case, while invoking an interesting etymological discussion! What does this have to do with buying groups? Well, the point is to make sure you identify all of your buying group members early on in the process in case any late comers scupper the deal…This week we return to our sales methodology series, and not only are we discussing the JOLT Effect, which helps buyers overcome indecision, we are joined by one of its creators, Ted McKenna, to do so. Here’s the TL;DL (“Too Long; Didn’t Listen)”) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode: Most deals don't die because of a competitor. They die because buyers do nothing. We sat down with Ted, the co-author of the JOLT Effect, to explore why fear of messing up paralyses deals, and how sellers can use JOLT to help buyers move forward with confidence.Listen on as Ted McKenna emphasises that indecision - rooted in the fear of messing up - is the primary reason deals stall, not competitive pressure. His research shows that 40–60% of opportunities die because buyers do nothing, often due to options overload, information overload, and unrealistic expectations. The JOLT framework (Judge indecision, Offer recommendations, Limit exploration, Take risk off the table) equips sellers to proactively address these fears rather than relying on pressure tactics, which typically backfire. McKenna stressed that indecision is a hidden competitor in every pipeline, requiring both sellers and managers to adapt their strategies, forecasting, and coaching. In an era of SaaS and AI-driven solutions, where uncertainty is high, JOLT provides a structured approach to build buyer confidence and move deals forward.Read more on this topic in the corresponding edition of Louis’ What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It newsletter.Other mentions in this episode:Ted’s latest book The Activator Advantage on how today's best professional service partners win, retain, and grow client relationships.Follow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Live at CRO Connected Autumn Summit - The Human Element in the Age of AI

    Episode 29 - Live at CRO Connected Autumn Summit - The Human Element in the Age of AI.Welcome to What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.This week’s episode was recorded live in front of the audience at the recent CRO Connected Autumn Summit where we undertook a group exercise to examine the human element in the age of AI. We explored how AI is reshaping go-to-market strategies, emphasising both opportunities and risks. While AI can enhance efficiency in areas like forecasting, prospecting, content creation, and coaching, its effectiveness hinges on accurate data and thoughtful application. Participants warned against over-reliance, which could lead to homogenised content, diminished creativity, and erosion of critical human skills. The consensus: AI should serve as an augmentation tool, not a replacement for human judgment, emotional intelligence, and critical thinking—qualities that remain essential for long-term success in GTM leadership.Other mentions in this episode:Josh Smith, Chief Executive Officer, CRO ConnectedGeoffrey HintonAndrew GrillAmazon Web Services CEO Matt Garman called replacing entry-level staff with AI tools “one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard.”Follow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Sales Methodologies pt 3 – Challenger Sale

    Episode 28 - Sales Methodologies pt3 - Challenger Sale.Welcome to What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.Louis and Simon reflect on last week’s CRO Connected Autumn Summit and discuss their favourite sessions, especially the Scared So What framework overview with Dr Grant Van Ulbrich, Alex Abbott on Social Selling, and a deep dive into what AI holds in store for us all courtesy of futurist Andrew Grill. Louis and Simon also trail next week’s episode, recorded live at the event with audience participation! Many thanks and kudos for Josh Smith and team for putting on a great event and allowing us to be a small part of it!This week we are discussing the next model in our sales methodology series, the Challenger Sale, which really shook things up when it came out. Here’s the TL;DL (“Too Long; Didn’t Listen)”) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode: When the Challenger Sale burst onto the scene in 2011 and identified five distinct profiles, it found that challengers dramatically outperformed the rest. The idea of teaching tailoring and taking control reshaped how we think about complex B2B selling.Listen on as Simon and Louis explore the Challenger Sale methodology, emphasising its research-backed origins and its disruption of traditional relationship-based selling. They outline the five seller archetypes and explain why Challengers outperform others in complex, consensus-driven environments. The conversation details Challenger’s structured approach - teaching, tailoring, and taking control - while cautioning against misapplication that can lead to aggression rather than constructive tension. They stress the methodology’s continued relevance in SaaS and AI-driven markets, where educating buyers and reframing assumptions are essential. The episode concludes with the key takeaways that Challenger is about value creation, requires strong discovery, and, when executed well, drives urgency and positions sellers as trusted advisors.Read more on this topic in the corresponding edition of Louis’ What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It newsletter.Other mentions in this episode:Andrew Grill’s LinkedIn post on how Josh found him as a speaker using ChatGPTIn a Downturn, Provoke Your Customers HBR articleThe Five Dysfunctions of a Team by Patrick LencioniBounce: The Myth of Talent and The Power of Practice by Matthew SyedFollow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Sales Methodologies pt2 – SPIN Selling

    Episode 27: Sales Methodologies pt2 – SPIN Selling.Welcome What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.This week we are looking at the first model in our new topic arc focusing on sales methodologies, starting with SPIN Selling. Here’s the TL;DL (“ Too Long; Didn’t Listen)”) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode: Spin selling is over 30 years old. It remains one of the most powerful methodologies in B2B sales. The trouble is that most people reduce it to four types of questions and treat it like a checklist. In reality, SPIN comes from one of the largest pieces of sales research ever conducted, and it's changed the way we think about discovery forever.Listen on as Simon and Louis emphasise that SPIN Selling remains a foundational, research-based methodology for modern sales, including SaaS. While often reduced to a rigid checklist, SPIN’s real power lies in its structured approach to discovery - moving beyond surface-level symptoms to uncover root problems, implications, and business impacts. Misconceptions include treating SPIN as linear and over-focusing on situational questions, which can alienate enterprise buyers in particular. Instead, sellers should prioritize implication and need-payoff questions to create urgency and demonstrate value. SPIN’s flexibility across deal sizes and its alignment with SaaS complexity mean it remains highly relevant today. Ultimately, those who master SPIN’s deeper elements differentiate themselves through insight-driven conversations that drive better outcomes.Read more on this topic in the corresponding edition of Louis’ What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It newsletter.Other mentions in this episode:SPIN Selling developer Neil Rackham at Huthwaite International Scott Brinker's 2025 Marketing Technology Landscape SupergraphicWhat's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It - Ep5 - Mark Walker, Founder, Revved UpWhat's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It ep22: David MeyerFollow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Sales Methodologies pt1 - Overview

    Episode 26: Sales Methodologies pt1 - Overview.Welcome What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.Louis went viral on LinkedIn when he wrote about his son Max heading off on his gap-year travels, invoking a discussion as to what LinkedIn is for these days. (A topic covered in considerably more detail on a recent episode of the On_Discourse podcast that Simon’s brother Toby co-hosts.) Next week Louis and Simon attend the CRO Connected Learning Summit, where they will be recording a “live” podcast session so listen out for that in coming weeks. And finally, this episode marks six months of the What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It podcast! Thanks to everyone who has been listening along, we appreciate your support and input.This week we are kicking off a new series of episodes, focusing on sales methodologies. Here’s the TL;DL (“ Too Long; Didn’t Listen)”) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode: Sales methodologies often get dismissed as training courses or old school frameworks, but the truth is they're what turn sales from an art into something predictable, repeatable, and scalable. Without a methodology, you are relying on individual heroics. With one, you are building a system that can consistently deliver.Listen on as Simon and Louis emphasise that sales methodologies are not optional and rather are foundational for predictable, scalable, and effective sales execution. Methodologies provide structure, common language, and a framework for coaching, which are critical in an environment where quota attainment remains low and deal complexity is increasing. Misconceptions, such as viewing methodologies as mere training or administrative burdens are debunked, with evidence showing they accelerate deals and improve forecasting accuracy. In the SaaS era, methodologies must adapt to shorter deal cycles, recurring revenue models, and rapid onboarding needs. This episode sets the stage for the forthcoming series exploring SPIN Selling, the Challenger Sale, JOLT, MEDDPICC, and SPICED, concluding that the real value lies in applying these methodologies thoughtfully and in combination.Other mentions in this episode:Christopher Marriott’s LinkedIn post on the Oracle Cloud wind down that Louis mentionsFollow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Summer Cognoscenti Interview Series Wrap-up

    Episode 25: Summer Cognoscenti Interview Series Wrap-up.Welcome What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.Louis and Simon agree how much they enjoyed the recent ON_Discourse Supper Club dinner in London to which Simon’s brother Toby invited them. As well as a lively evening with a bunch of interesting people from a wide range of businesses, it turned out to be a great opportunity to road test some of the takeaways from our recent chats on the podcast. Talking of which…The Summer Cognoscenti Interview Series has come to an end and so we thought it would be good to reflect on the fantastic conversations we’ve been having. Here’s the TL;DL (“ Too Long; Didn’t Listen)”) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode: We've spoken to some brilliant guests, with some amazing insights covering everything from trust as the currency of GTM to alignment, leadership, and talent as being core functions.Listen on as Simon and Louis recap five core themes raised by their guests during the series: alignment, trust, AI, talent and leadership, and execution. Persistent misalignment between marketing and sales, driven by metric conflicts and short-term pressures, remains a critical challenge. Trust emerged as the foundational currency of GTM, vital for both customer acquisition, retention, and growth. While AI offers transformative potential they agree, it must be applied with intent and not as a substitute for critical thinking. Talent strategies should prioritize human qualities and leadership that fosters success. Finally, it’s clear that execution remains the ultimate differentiator, where coherent orchestration across GTM functions determines outcomes and cold calling isn't dead-but brute force is. Huge thanks to our guests, Ian Truscott, Joel Harrison, Sarah Rhodes, Andy Champion, David Meyer, Gerry Hill, and Nicky Briggs for joining us!Other mentions in this episode:Simon’s Summer Reflections Over a Beer LinkedIn postThe Solow Paradox       The Diary Of A CEO with Steven BartlettFollow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Summer Cognoscenti Interview: Nicky Briggs

    Episode 24: Nicky Briggs – Portfolio marketing.Welcome What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.Louis and Simon reflect on how quiet is around these parts right now and whether the summer lull will come to an end sooner…or later! Decisions have to start being made at some point, they agree.The Summer Cognoscenti Series reaches its finale this week and our guest is Nicky Briggs, VP, Principal Analyst at Forrester Research. Here’s the TL;DL (“ Too Long; Didn’t Listen)”) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode: In our conversation with Nicky, we unpack ABM evolution, we define what portfolio marketing's growing role actually is, and how we close the loop between strategy and execution in those spaces.Listen on as Nicky tells us about her beginnings as a pioneer ABM practitioner and analyst before making the switch to portfolio marketing. She emphasises the strategic nature of ABM when properly executed and highlights how portfolio marketing helps unify fragmented efforts across go-to-market. A surprising finding from the most recent Forrester portfolio marketing survey though is just how much is being thrown at portfolio teams. Nicky also notes the growing influence of AI on buyer behaviour and marketing execution, as well as making the observation that many ABM tools are rebranding as GTM or revenue marketing platforms. She also critiques the inefficiencies in content creation and product launches, advocating for a more intentional, research-driven approach. Looking ahead, Nicky sees portfolio marketing as a strategic linchpin in go-to-market, provided it maintains focus and avoids becoming overburdened by all those additional executional tasks.Other mentions in this episode:Nicky’s Call For Zero-Waste B2B Marketing blog postForrester B2B Summit EMEAFollow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Summer Cognoscenti Interview: Gerry Hill

    Episode 23: Gerry Hill - Outbound Sales, Trust and Cold-Calling Mastery.Welcome to What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.This week our Summer Cognoscenti Series guest is Gerry Hill ex-VP EMEA at ConnectAndSell. Here’s the TL;DL (“ Too Long; Didn’t Listen)”) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode: In an era of over automated cadences, real human conversations still rule. Cold calling is alive, but the art of conversation needs reviving. That old smile and dial brute force approach is broken. The new winning formula is precision at scale. Genuine curiosity, active listening and human connection are what open doors far more than any gimmicky email subject lines.Listen on as Gerry shares his journey into B2B sales via a thwarted aspiration to play professional rugby, culminating in a key role at Connect and Sell where he helped drive outbound calling as a distinct discipline. He reflects on the evolution of sales, emphasising its scientific nature and the critical role of data and process optimisation. Gerry discusses the inefficiencies in traditional cold calling, pointing to bottlenecks and unpredictable outcomes that hinder productivity. Despite not being embedded in technology himself, Gerry emphasises the importance of tools that facilitate meaningful conversations. And echoing past guests, Gerry highlights trust and grit as key attributes in engaged in outbound calling.Other mentions in this episode: Jesse Ouellette, Lead MagicFollow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Summer Cognoscenti Interview: David Meyer

    Episode 22: David Meyer, Clarify B2B - real-world insight from navigating the frontline tensions between sales and marketing.Welcome to What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.Louis is in Cornwall, where his son is attending a ski chalet hosting course. While there, word has reached him that he has achieved the status of ambassador for Winning by Design's revenue architecture. Simon and Louis agree that the Ferrero Rochers are now on him!This week the Summer Cognoscenti Series guest David Meyer is co-founder and CRO at revenue optimisation agency Clarify B2B. Here’s the TL;DL (“ Too Long; Didn’t Listen)”) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode:  David sits at the intersection of sales, marketing, and pipeline in a way few others do. As the CRO of a demand generation agency he sells to marketing, but delivers results for sales, especially in large, complex enterprise tech environments. Expect some real-world insight from someone who's spent 22 years navigating the frontline tensions between sales and marketing.Listen on as David shares his unconventional path into sales (aka a degree in marine biology!), before going on to discuss the challenges and nuances of aligning sales and marketing functions, and the importance of shared language, trust, and metrics. An important element of this is to act as a translator between sales and marketing to bridge cultural and linguistic divides, such as terms like “enablement” that mean different things depending on who you ask! David also highlights the importance of talent development and equipping teams with the right tools and processes to succeed in high-variance, high-stakes sales environments. In particular, he looks for signs of "fellowship" and "authority" when developing talent. And we also make an audacious bid to add a fourth “C”, context, to Andy Champion’s “Three C’s” (discussed last week)!Follow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Summer Cognoscenti Interview: Andy Champion

    Welcome to episode 21 of What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.Simon has been moonlighting again and appearing on another podcast, none other than Rockstar CMO with Ian Truscott. Picking up on Simon’s recent LinkedIn post sharing some links about campaign design, set-up, and measurement, Ian was keen to learn more, not least about the beer he was drinking at the time of catching-up on the reading that inspired the post!Returning to our own podcast and this week the Summer Cognoscenti Series guest is  Andy Champion SVP and GM International at intent data provider 6Sense. Here’s the TL;DL (“ Too Long; Didn’t Listen)”) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode: Andy started his career in the Army and  we explore how those foundational values from military service translate into effective leadership in today's fast moving, complex, SaaS environment.Listen on as Andy shares a reflective and practical view of leadership shaped by his military background and extensive experience in B2B SaaS. Andy discusses servant leadership, trust, and psychological safety as foundational principles, advocating for leaders to facilitate rather than dominate. He goes on to highlight the importance of pattern recognition, collective decision-making, and developing future leaders through stretch opportunities. We are also treated to “Andy’s Three Cs” of curiosity, coachability, and commitment as key traits to look for when recruiting. Taken together, Andy’s insights offer a compelling blueprint for effective leadership in today’s evolving SaaS landscape.Other mentions in this episode:Jon Clarke, Data Partnerships Director at intent data platform 6SenseJon’s appearance on What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix ItFollow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Summer Cognoscenti Interview: Sarah Rhodes

    Welcome to episode 20 of What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.This week the Summer Cognoscenti Series continues with Sarah Rhodes, recruitment director and co-founder at go-to-market recruitment specialists, n8talent. Here’s the TL;DL (“ Too Long; Didn’t Listen)”) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode: Sarah shares some candid insights into the shifting recruitment landscape, the impact to market conditions on hiring behaviours, and what it really takes to find, hire, and retain top SaaS sales talent.She also discusses how market conditions have shifted, influencing hiring behaviours across the SaaS landscape. In a more cautious or volatile market, companies may hesitate to invest in top-tier talent or delay hiring decisions, despite the ultimately negative impact on growth. Another key point Sarah raises is the importance of senior sales talent in SaaS. Hiring at this level isn’t just about filling a role; it’s about finding individuals who can drive revenue, shape culture, and scale operations. The businesses willing to take some risks in their approach to growing teams and bringing on new talent, Sarah tells us, are the ones that will succeed. And don’t forget, interviews are a two-way process with the candidate evaluating the employer just as much as the other way round!Follow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Summer Cognoscenti Interview: Joel Harrison

    Welcome to episode 19 of What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.This week, Louis attended the CRO Connected get together, a breakfast briefing courtesy of Jodie Battson at Alpha Group, and was introduced to the redoubtable – and potential future guest (hint, hint!) – Scott Vaughan. Simon has been on retreat in the beautiful West Dorset countryside, enjoying some sunshine while getting through the to-do list!This week we continue our Summer Cognoscenti Series with B2B Marketing co-founder Joel Harrison. Here’s the TL;DL (“ Too Long; Didn’t Listen)”) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode: After two decades at the heart of B2B marketing, Joel has kind of seen it all and we talk about about trust, thought leadership, and the strategic clarity that are the new imperatives for B2B marketers.Listen on as Joel highlights the disruptive impact of AI, economic uncertainty, and outdated perceptions of marketing that led to budget cuts and structural shifts. Joel emphasises the growing importance of trust, thought leadership, and brand-building beyond traditional advertising. Distinguishing thought leadership as a strategic initiative that shapes market conversations, Joel stresses the power of customer advocacy and employee-led communication in building credibility. Influencer marketing is now gaining traction, encompassing a broader range of voices. He urges marketers to communicate commercial value to CFOs while maintaining creativity, positioning marketing as the go-to for understanding customer needs.Other mentions in this episode:B2B Marketing Propolis2025 Edelman Trust Barometer B2B Stars Search & ReviewTrusted - customer-led growth platformMark Choueke’s Do More With Less podcast HBR, “How B2B Sales Can Benefit from Social Selling" McKinsey, “Five Fundamental Truths: How B2B Winners Keep Growing”Follow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Summer Cognoscenti Interview: Ian Truscott

    Welcome to episode 18 of What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.Louis has been deepening his wine tasting knowledge and expertise, gaining his next set of qualifications. He’s getting quite good at it, he reckons… And it turns out that the Portuguese drink more wine per capita of any nation in the world! Meanwhile, Simon has been attending the B2B Marketing Ignite conference and shares a few key highlights.This week we welcome our second Summer Cognoscenti Series guest, fractional CMO and Managing Partner at growth-stage B2B tech go-to-market advisory firm Velocity B, Ian Truscott. Here’s the TL;DL (“ Too Long; Didn’t Listen)”) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode: Too often marketing is treated as a tactical execution arm, tasked with generating leads and filling funnels. But it's often excluded from the real strategic decisions that shape business growth and we argue that marketing must step up and reclaim its role as a strategic partner in go-to-market design.Listen on as Ian emphasises the key role of marketing in go-to-market execution, advocating for marketing to be seen as a strategic partner in business growth rather than being restricted to narrow, tactical activity. He discusses common challenges faced by SaaS GTM leaders, such as aligning marketing efforts with overall business objectives and ensuring marketing's involvement in strategic decision-making. To overcome these challenges, Ian advises integrating marketing into the strategic planning process and leveraging marketing insights to drive business growth. Ian also outlines his concept of "ART" (awareness, revenue, and trust) as a framework for evaluating marketing activities. He emphasised that while revenue is crucial, it cannot be achieved without building trust through consistent and authentic content marketing, and awareness through effective campaigns. This framework helps marketers resist distractions and focus on activities that contribute to these three key areas.Other mentions in this episode:Russ Powell, Founder & Managing Director, Sharper B2B MarketingAndy Champion, General Manager International, 6senseUncensored CMOIan’s "analyst inside” conceptIan’s "free puppies vs free beer" articleThe Long and the Short of it: Balancing Short and Long-Term Marketing Strategies by Les Binet and Peter FieldCMO Survey on AI as part of budgetingFollow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Summer Cognoscenti Interview: Ambre Jeanneau, Revenue Enablement Leader

    Welcome to episode 17 of What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.This week we close-out the revenue operations and enablement arc with another fantastic guest, and the first in our Summer Cognoscenti Series, Ambre Jeanneau, to help us really understand the enablement aspect in real life. Here’s the TL;DL (“Too Long; Didn’t Listen)”) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode: Enablement is the engine that transforms potential into performance. It's not about onboarding or content. It's about creating repeatable behaviours, measurable impact, and being embedded in the way revenue teams actually sell.Listen on as Ambre shares her insights on the evolution and importance of revenue enablement for equipping revenue teams with the right tools, processes, and skills. We discussed the transition from sales enablement to revenue enablement, highlighting the importance of supporting the entire customer journey, not just the sales team. Ambre also touched on the creation of playbooks, the role of coaching, and the need for continuous learning and adaptation in enablement practices. Finally, we looked at the evolution of enablement to be seen as a strategic function at the leadership level and how early-stage companies can benefit from external consultants to set foundations before hiring full-time enablement roles.Other mentions in this episode:Ambre’s LinkedIn newsletter - Scaling Smarter: Enablement Blueprint for SaaS StartupsFollow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider. 

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    Revenue Operations and Enablement (part 3)

    Welcome to episode 16 of What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.We share insights from the recent revenue leaders dinner Louis co-hosted with Tim Ogle at Toggle Switch Consulting, to which Simon was kindly invited! The discussion during the evening focused on attracting, developing, and defending top sales talent, highlighting the balance between gut instinct and scientific assessment, particularly for first-time managers. The importance of onboarding and enablement was emphasised, with a debate on the optimal duration for onboarding new hires – up to 30 days in some situations! The conversation also covered strategies for developing and maximising the performance of top sales talent while simultaneously managing lower performers. A great evening with stimulating conversation! Thanks again to everyone who took part.This week we finalising the conversation about revenue operations and enablement, focusing on enablement itself. Here’s the TL;DL (“ Too Long; Didn’t Listen)”) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode: Revops should scale insight, not just infrastructure. However, great revops doesn't just build dashboards, it builds trust.Listen on as we explore the transformative power of enablement within revenue organisations. Far from being just training, enablement is a continuous, strategic discipline that begins before day one and extends throughout a seller’s tenure. We emphasise structured onboarding, cross-functional collaboration, and the importance of coaching over one-off training. There’s no shortage of compelling data demonstrating significant boosts in win rates and quota attainment, and we argue that enablement - when owned by GTM leadership and aligned with revops - can be a major growth lever. Ultimately, we conclude, enablement should be treated as a core business function, not a checkbox exercise.Read more on this topic in the corresponding edition of Louis’ What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It newsletter.Follow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Revenue Operations and Enablement (part 2)

    Welcome to episode 15 of What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.Louis and Simon spent the day recently at Inspire, the 6Sense customer conference, courtesy of Andy Champion and Jon Clarke. The both agreed it was a great event, especially sessions from Saima Rashid, April Dunford, and Gemma Greaves. The stat of the day, reckons Louis, is that 81% of B2B decision makers have already decided who's at the top of their list before they speak to a seller. That leaves marketing with a lot to do up to that point and means sales has to be absolutely on it when they engage! Read Simon’s three takeaways from the day in his LinkedIn post, which he also discusses with Ian Truscott and Jeff Clark on Ian’s Rockstar CMO podcast. (And there’s a couple of bonus takeaways as Ian likes to do things in 5s!) Louis also attended The Future of the Future seminar at the International Centre for Sustainability (ICfS) in London with Rohit Talwar and Jerome Glenn, from The Millennium Project. Read more about it in Louis’ LinkedIn post.This week we continue the discussion about revenue operations and enablement. Here’s the TL;DL (“ Too Long; Didn’t Listen)”) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode:  Revops should scale insight, not just infrastructure. However, great revops doesn't just build dashboards, it builds trust.Listen on as we drill into the importance of revops in aligning teams, standardising processes, and driving performance, examining its strategic importance beyond the traditional perception as a mere support function. We emphasise the need for revops to align teams, standardise processes, and drive performance. This requires, we agree, overcoming common misconceptions about revops, such as its role being limited to reporting and dashboards, while stressing the importance of viewing revops as a strategic enabler. We also touch on ideal organisational design and the roles that make the ideal team.Read more on this topic in the corresponding edition of Louis’ What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It newsletter.Follow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Revenue Operations and Enablement (part 1)

    Welcome to episode 14 of What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.Louis has squeezed in a day’s cricket, courtesy of Khalid Rahmany from InnoVyne, and Harry Riseborough and Matthew Hobson from Xactly. It was a T20 match, meaning it was extremely fast paced and didn’t entail blocking out the whole week! Simon recounts his time at the Anticon conference, including his panel session. Watch this space for a write-up soon and in the meantime check-out his video round-up from the ever present Joel Harrison!This week we tackle revenue operations and enablement, the first of several episodes on this critical area of GTM strategy execution. Here’s the TL;DL (“ Too Long; Didn’t Listen)”) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode:  Revops and enablement are often underpowered and mispositioned within SaaS organisations. They're seen as tactical support arms rather than strategic enablers of growth. But they're actually essential components of GTM strategy, execution, and performance. Listen on as we emphasise the importance of recognising revops and enablement as essential components of GTM strategy, execution, and performance, highlighting that they must be integrated into the overall GTM strategy to drive growth effectively. The discussion also touches on the need for these functions to be seen as strategic partners rather than mere support roles, which can significantly impact the success of SaaS companies. We’ll be diving into these topics in more detail in upcoming episodes, including with some special guests.Read more on this topic in the corresponding edition of Louis’ What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It newsletter.Other mentions in this episode: Compensation Matters podcastFollow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Leveraging Data and Technology

    Welcome to episode 13 of What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.Louis is back in Porto to do some work with one of the start-ups at Founders Founders, the tech incubator based there. He has also been sailing in the Solent on a SaaS sailors trip organised by Paul French at Intrinsic Executive Search. Simon speculates as to whether “4 SaaS revenue leaders on a sailing boat” is either the opening line for a joke or somebody's worst nightmare…Moving on to this week’s discussion, we’re getting onto the topic of leveraging data and technology effectively, crucial to scalable and effective GTM strategy. Here’s the TL;DL (“ Too Long; Didn’t Listen)”) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode:  It’s not about buying more tools, it's about using what you already have in smarter ways. Most teams are overspending on tech and they're underusing their stack and making poor decisions because they're chasing flawed or incomplete data. Listen on as we highlight common issues such as overspending on tech and underutilising tech stacks, leading to poor decision-making due to missing, incomplete, or inaccurate data. We discuss the importance of data governance and the need to invest in continuous data quality management. All too often, we agree, short-term thinking takes precedence over addressing long-term data issues. And find out what tech maintenance has in common with growing roses!Read more on this topic in the corresponding edition of Louis’ What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It newsletter.Other mentions in this episode:Tijs van Santen, AI Co-Founder & CEOFollow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Jon Clarke,  6Sense

    Welcome to episode 12 of What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.This week we’re joined again by a guest, Jon Clarke, Data Partnerships Director at intent data platform 6Sense. Here’s the TL;DL (“too long, didn’t listen”) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode: Intent data isn't just a list of engaged accounts, it's your early warning system for buying behaviour. When sales and marketing align around it, they stop chasing leads and start prioritising real opportunities. Done right it doesn't just sit at the top of the funnel, it accelerates the whole thing.Listen on as Jon shares his journey into the intent data space. He discusses the evolution of intent data from simple keyword-based behaviours to sophisticated AI-driven models that triangulate multiple signals. Jon emphasizes the importance of aligning sales and marketing around intent data, avoiding premature handovers, and ensuring a shared vision for successful execution. Jon also gives us a preview of Inspire, 6Sense’s B2B Revenue Conference taking place next week in London, with lots of learning, networking, and troubleshooting opportunities. Jon will be hosting the Rev Talks stage so be sure to stop by if you’re attending!Follow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Unit Economics

    Welcome to episode 11 of What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.This week sees us arriving at episode 11, placing us into the hallowed company of the 4% of podcasts that make it past ten instalments, invoking a moment of reflection! Louis has been struck by the relevance of the topics covered in the podcast so far, frequently encountering the issues we’ve been discussing with revenue leaders and founders he meets. Simon agrees and has also been enjoying the opportunity to step back from the revops coal face and reflect on the broader strategy and purpose behind the topics we’ve been discussing. The podcast, Louis reckons, is providing valuable insights that many GTM leaders don't have the time to consider in their daily routines. So keep listening for bite-sized chunks of guidance!Moving on to this week’s discussion, we address the topic of unit economics. Here’s the TL;DL (“ Too Long; Didn’t Listen)”) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode:  SaaS companies have for years chased vanity metrics, like pipeline coverage, logo counts, opens, and clicks. But now in today's paradigm investors and boards are asking tougher questions about profitability and scaling. That's where unit economics comes in. Listen on as we discuss the importance of unit economics for revenue leaders (not just CFOs!), encompassing the costs associated with acquiring, retaining, and expanding revenue. Key metrics such as CAC, LTV, CAC/LTV ratio, CAC payback period, and NRR are essential for understanding profitability. We cover key challenges including bloated GTM infrastructures and misalignment of goals, which can lead to inflated costs and inefficiencies. SaaS companies should focus on narrowing their ICP, shortening the CAC payback window, enhancing customer onboarding and retention, and investing in a robust pricing strategy.Read more on this topic in the corresponding edition of Louis’ What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It newsletter.Follow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider. 

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    Simon Sharp, CEO, Verto

    Welcome to episode 10 of What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.This week we’re joined by our second guest, Simon Sharp, CEO at program management platform Verto and pick-up the discussion from a few episodes ago on sales motions. Simon recently posted an article on LinkedIn about managing multiple GTM  motions that piqued Louis’ interest and we were keen to dig further into his thinking in this area.Here’s the TL;DL (“too long, didn’t listen”) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode: It's very easy to go awry by managing multiple different GTM motions. And never has the mantra crawl, walk, run been more apt. So, excellence in one motion always beats mediocrity in many. Listen on as Simon elaborates on the complexities of managing multiple GTM motions and ensuring they interoperate rather than compete. He emphasizes the need for balance and strategic timing when introducing new motions, particularly as ARR  grows. Simon highlights the role of AI in defining ideal customer profiles and enhancing both strategic and operational aspects of GTM motions. He stresses the importance of alignment across sales, marketing, and customer success teams to ensure a seamless customer experience. The conversation also touches on practical examples, such as Slack's approach to combining PLG and enterprise motions, illustrating the need for a customer-centric strategy that transcends organisational silos.Read more on this topic in the corresponding edition of Louis’ What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It newsletter.Follow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Operating Models (part 2)

    Welcome to episode 9 of What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.It’s Louis’ birthday, the six-month anniversary of the first What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It newsletter, and the two-month anniversary of the podcast! Felicitations and self-congratulations out of the way, Louis is feeling energised following a few days away with the team from his side (or is it main?) gig, Toggle Switch Consulting. Simon is preparing for his upcoming talk on buying signals at the SME Forum meeting in London and also the panel session on scaling marketing he is leading at Anticon in a couple of week's time.This week we continue discussing the topic of operating models. Here’s the TL;DL (“too long, didn’t listen”) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode: Don’t treat your operating model like it's a one-time diagram. It's a living system, so you have to design it with the same rigour as you would your strategy, because that's what's going to deliver it.Listen on as we emphasise the importance of treating the operating model as a dynamic system, including careful selection of tools, focusing on essential metrics like ARR and customer satisfaction, and how the right model can drive alignment between marketing and sales. The discussion also outlines what constitutes a successful operating model, including clear team roles, regular review cycles, comprehensive enablement, and aligned compensation plans. Ultimately, the key to a successful operating model is shared goals and rewards.Read more on this topic in the corresponding edition of Louis’ What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It newsletter.Follow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Operating Models (part 1)

    Welcome to episode 8 of What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.Louis shoe-horns a business lesson into the conversation based on the sales promotion incentive fund (aka SPIF) he has implemented for his estate agent and recounts another AI experience, this time with training and coaching platform Avarra. Simon has been deep diving on buying groups, participating in a CMO roundtable discussion on the topic as well as joining B2B Marketing webinar Beyond MQLs: Unlocking Revenue Growth by Embracing Buying Groups.This week’s topic is operating models. Here’s the TL;DL ( “too long, didn’t listen”) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode:  Most GTM strategies fail, not because the strategy was wrong, but because the operating model couldn't deliver it.Listen on as we discuss the critical role of operating models in the success of GTM strategies, highlighting that they encompass more than just organizational charts. We cover some common frameworks and mental models to consider when building the operating model, together with symptoms of a broken operating model that need to be identified. We also look at what how operating models should evolve with the different lifestages of SaaS businesses, ensuring the right people have been brought on board at the right time, the importance of keeping stakeholders in sight, and avoiding overlapping responsibilities.Other mentions in this episode:Jay Galbraith's Star Model Read more on this topic in the corresponding edition of Louis’ What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It newsletter.Follow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Optimising Sales Motions

    Welcome to episode 7 of What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.It’s been an AI-kind of a week, with Louis exploring conversational agentic AI customer service platform, Parloa, while on a trip to Germany. Meanwhile, Simon has been hanging out with Boardy, the voice AI super networker. As well as offering advice on goals and projects, Boardy also endeavours to connect with other people in its (or “his”!) network. All with a charming Australian accent… Read more about Simon’s experiences with Boardy and feel free to hit him up for an introduction!This week’s topic is optimising sales motions. Here’s the TL;DL ( “too long, didn’t listen”) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode: optimising sales motions isn't just about doing more, it is about being customer centric. SaaS GTM leaders must avoid generic approaches and instead take an approach to sales motion design that is customer centric.Listen on as we discuss how to optimise sales motions, emphasising the importance of aligning sales strategies with buyer needs rather than business processes. We highlight the challenges SaaS companies face, such as overcomplicating sales motions and treating different market segments with a one-size-fits-all approach. Crucially, SaaS GTM leaders must strive for clarity in sales motions to avoid confusion for both internal teams and customers, with a focus on the quality of interactions rather than just activity metrics.Other mentions in this episode:Jacco van der Kooij, Founder, Winning by DesignJon Clarke, Data Partnerships Director, 6sense (formally Chief Product Officer, Cyance)Read more on this topic in the corresponding edition of Louis’ What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It newsletter.Follow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Go-To-Market Strategy

    Welcome to episode 6 of What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.Louis recounts his energising time spent with start-up incubator Founders Founders[SD1] , based in Porto, Portugal. The conversation, it just so happens, spanned everything we’ve been discussing on the podcast so far! Coincidence, or is just that these are the key topics that founders need to be thinking about…? Regardless, shout-out to Art Linkov and Miguel Albuquerque who organised the meet-up. Meanwhile, Simon hasn’t travelled much further than LinkedIn, where Ian Truscott’s article on the non-sensical nature of the term “MQL” amused him. They’re not qualified and they’re not leads, says Ian, much like Carphone Warehouse isn’t a warehouse and doesn’t sell car phones adds Simon!This week’s topic is how to build a clear, impactful, and memorable GTM strategy. Here’s the TL;DL ( “too long, didn’t listen”) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode: In today's competitive SaaS markets, too many companies end up overcomplicating their GTM strategies, causing friction, confusion, and panic in the market. Having a straightforward, simple, easy to understand GTM strategy that customers can articulate, helps you get to value and aligns your teams.Listen on as we discuss the importance of simplicity in developing a go-to-market (GTM) strategy. Overcomplicated strategies lead to friction and confusion, while a straightforward approach ensures team alignment and value delivery. We draw inspiration from the single mindedness and simplicity of Coca-Cola's approach and Louis outlines the rule of 1 3, 5 for developing GTM strategy. As Ben Rudgley commented on the newsletter, quoting one of his business school strategy professors: “If you can’t define your strategy in 2-3 sentences, or 140 characters, you don’t have a strategy.” The key takeaway is that clarity and consistency drive long-term success.Other mentions in this episode:Kasper Skou, CEO | co-founder, SynthesiHBR IdeaCast  - When Sales Incentives BackfireRead more on this topic in the corresponding edition of Louis’ What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It newsletter.Follow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Mark Walker, Founder and CEO, Revved Up

    Welcome to episode 5 of What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues. This week sees our first guest joining us on the podcast as Mark Walker, Founder and CEO at Revved Up as we continue the discussion on segmentation, targeting and positioning. Here’s the TL;DL ( “too long, didn’t listen”) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode:  Mark's core point is around discrimination - you have to pick the segments you want to serve. You cannot be all things to all people. The discussion moves on to highlight the critical role of segmentation, targeting, and positioning in developing a successful B2B SaaS go-to-market strategy. Accurate segmentation, including firmographic, technographic, behavioural, and use case (or “jobs to be done”) segmentation, ensures that resources are allocated effectively and growth opportunities are not missed. Targeting involves aligning product delivery with the specific needs of organizations, requiring a detailed understanding of the target audience. Positioning focuses on communicating how the product addresses customer needs and resonates with their desired outcomes, forming the backbone of an effective strategy. Finally, we ask Mark to choose between better segmentation or better positioning. Listen to find out what he picked! Follow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider. 

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    Segmentation, Targeting & Positioning

    Welcome to episode 4 of What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues. Louis laments the early mornings he has been facing this week in order to get up and deliver (virtual) training in Singapore, although it’s been worth it to spend time with some talented sellers, he says. Discussing the engagement of participants in the classes, Louis highlights that the most important thing is bringing the right attitude and having a willingness to engage and learn. Simon has also been involved with sales training of a sort, joining Emma Maslen at sales development consultancy inspir’em to discuss pipeline tracking and marketing support on a customer webinar. Simon also joined the Rockstar CMO podcast with Ian Truscott to talk about all things revops, including Simon’s plan to save the MQL…(not!). The conversation then moves on to the topic of the week, Segmentation, Targeting & Positioning. Here’s the TL;DL ( “too long, didn’t listen”) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode: Segmentation, targeting, and positioning form the backbone of any successful GTM strategy. Many SaaS companies though fall into the trap of adopting a scattered approach, effectively creating a blancmange of inconsistent messaging and poorly aligned sales efforts that must be overcome. Listen on as we discuss the critical role of segmentation, targeting, and positioning in developing a successful B2B SaaS go-to-market strategy. Accurate segmentation, including firmographic, technographic, behavioural, and use case segmentation, ensures that resources are allocated effectively and growth opportunities are not missed. This includes careful ICP development, including what Simon refers to as buying-group ICPs, that describe the make-up of all the personas making a purchase decision. Targeting involves aligning product delivery with the specific needs of organisations, requiring a detailed understanding of the target audience. Positioning focuses on communicating how the product addresses customer needs and resonates with their desired outcomes, forming the backbone of an effective strategy. Louis and Simon make reference to the excellent segmentation, targeting, and positioning that accounting software vendor Xero has undertaken for their market. Other mentions in this episode: Simon Sharp, Private Equity funded SaaS Go To Market Specialist (We will be speaking to Simon on a forthcoming episode!) Jacco van der Kooij, Founder, Winning by Design Read more on this topic in the corresponding edition of Louis’ What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It newsletter. Follow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Revenue Growth vs Cost Containment

    Welcome to episode 3 of What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.Louis recaps his time at the CRO Connected Summit in East Sussex, including a nice walk in the countryside not ruined by having to play golf! More seriously,  Louis found the talk on seller productivity by Gerry Hill very valuable and recommends following him for more insight. Moving on to this week’s discussion on revenue growth versus cost containment, we discuss how to balance these opposing forces to ensure success.Here’s the TL;DL ( “too long, didn’t listen”) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode: Revenue growth at all costs isn't viable anymore and while revenue growth is important, it must be combined with ensuring against spending too much on it. Equally, aggressive cost cutting must also be avoided, as that will also hurt long-term success.Listen on as we discuss the importance of balancing revenue growth with cost containment, especially in the face of economic challenges like inflation and geopolitical events. We highlight the role of generative AI in improving efficiency and productivity, suggesting that investments should focus on enhancing these areas rather than aggressive cost-cutting. Targeted spending in sales and marketing, are recommended for better results. Additionally, we advocate strategies such as optimising headcount, rationalising tools, focusing on expansion revenue, and implementing effective Account-Based Marketing (ABM) to strike the right balance. And avoid falling into the trap of sacrificing long-term brand development for short term sales activation. Louis recommends The Long and the Short of it: Balancing Short and Long-Term Marketing Strategies by Les Binet and Peter Field for anyone who wants to go deeper.Follow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    TAM, SAM and SOM

    Welcome to episode 2 of What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we explore the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to common issues.In this episode we start by chatting about whether SaaS is facing an inflection point with the rise of alternative software models, buyer fatigue, and challenges to start-up funding. Then, we pick-up on a point raised last week regarding TAM, SAM and SOM and drill into why these acronyms are crucial to really understanding market opportunity.Here’s the TL;DL ( “too long, didn’t listen”) in case you don’t have time for the whole episode: Understanding the differences between TAM and SAM and SOM is crucial for companies to assess their market potential, set realistic expectations with investors, and make properly informed strategic decisions.Listen on as we breakout the definitions for TAM (total addressable market), SAM (serviceable available market) and SOM (serviceable obtainable market), the relationship with ICP (1ideal customer profile) and indeed product-market fit that we discussed last week. Properly understanding the market opportunity sets realistic expectations with leadership, boards and investors while enabling effective go-to-market strategy aligned with company goals. Go-to-market leaders must also ensure they have credible data to back up their market sizing before approaching investors and keep in mind that, sometimes, the biggest competitor is customer apathy or the decision to do nothing. Follow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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    Product-Market Fit

    Welcome to episode 1 of What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It with Louis Fernandes and Simon Daniels. Each week, together with occasional guests, we’ll be exploring the challenges that face go-to-market leaders in SaaS scale-up businesses and suggest solutions to the common issues.In this episode we dive into the foundation of any successful go-to-market strategy, namely Product Market Fit or PMF. In case you don’t have time to listen, here’s the TL;DL (that’s “too long, didn’t listen”): Product market fit is not just for Christmas and it doesn't get solved overnight, but companies that invest the time and effort to get it right will experience more sustainable and profitable growth.Listen on as we discuss what is meant by product-market fit, whether it should actually be market-product-fit, the consequences of misjudging PMF, the role of geography, and the importance of Product Marketing to ensuring a well-defined PMF.Follow us, get in touch, share your thoughts on anything discussed, or suggest ideas for what we should cover in future episodes via our LinkedIn page. We also appreciate comments and ratings on your podcast provider.

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Exploring the key go-to-market challenges that SaaS organisations face and how to overcome them to ensure success.

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