You don't look like a runner

This is a fitness running and tech podcast by Nick and Jon. This is also a review of the world's biggest movie, Avatar.  The movie stars Channing Tatum as Jake. A guy with no legs. We meet him first in space, where he’s floating about and demonstrating 3D to us all. But then he lands on a planet (no name) where Duke Nukem is driving a mech and getting really angry all the time. Also, there are Sigourney Weaver, a scientist, and Phoebe from Friends’s brother Frank and he loves mining. Thus the stage is set for Avatar, a movie in which a guy wants to mine, a lady wants to science, and Duke Nukem wants to blow shit up. Also on the planet are some blue aliens who have horses that are dragons. They live in a tree. We will be back next week to talk about fitness running and tech. --- You should now listen to our friends Tom and Cat: https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/cats-cabinet-of-curiosities-605665 You should also donate to Shelter this Christmas: https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/runnerpod Good luck and solidarity with our striking nurses, postal workers and railway workers. Strike fund links: Royal College of Nursing: https://action.rcn.org.uk/page/117402/donate/1 Communication Workers Union: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=3EVU686A9QKZ6 RMT Strike Fund: https://www.rmt.org.uk/about/national-dispute-fund/

Time marches on. Jon went off book and did an intro to explain the delay on this episode and try to contextualise it, but history keeps happening and it's now the day after the "mini-budget" and things seem to have gotten even worse.¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Here's a chat we had before the heat wave when we innocently thought a 2 grand utility bill was a lot of money.The bed in the intro is I Walk With Ghosts by Scott Buckley | www.scottbuckley.com.au from https://www.chosic.com/free-music/all/ which is on a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International license (CC BY 4.0) | https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ The Grange Hill theme was grabbed from this: https://archive.org/details/tvtunes_30923 If you need a quick way to give to Shelter go here: https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/runnerpod (you can still get a sticker, just tweet @jonhickman)Find your union: https://www.tuc.org.uk/joinunion Find or donate to food banks: https://www.trusselltrust.org/ Peace!

You didn't hear us coming, did you? Nick is doing weights and saving the planet, Jon is living in the moment, and both want to be postmen. See you soon!

Attention please, Nick & Jon have asserted their rights under the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act, 1988, to be identified as the inventors of Battleships Monopoly. As ever we appreciate you but even more if you donate to the Refuge Christmas appeal: https://donate.refuge.org.uk/page/91965/donate/

Grab a dongle for your weights, and help yourself to a vegan Pukka pie—it's the Christmas episode. Don't want a vegan pie? Well have one anyway. We found time to chat about home gym set-ups, had a little festive chat, and uncovered yet more crippling social anxiety from Nick's past. Like the show? Show your support by supporting our favourite charities. As ever we're supporting [Shelter](https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/runnerpod) whose work is never more important than it is now. We'd also want to highlight the importance of the work being done locally and nationally in the UK by the various charities that work with victims of domestic abuse—the Covid pandemic has seen an increase in demand for such services and they need support to continue delivering services to those who need them. Please consider making a gift this Christmas to a local organisation or a national one such as [Refuge](https://donate.refuge.org.uk/page/51133/donate/1)

HAPPY LOCKDOWN 2 BABY Nick is open to bribes, Jon is just trying to help, and we let it all go to our heads. * [We won an award](https://awards.discoverpods.com/winners-2020-discover-pods-awards/) — if you voted, thanks...also what were you thinking? But seriously though thanks * Leave us a 5 star review on Apple Podcasts, send us a screenshot, and be in the raffle to win some shit headphones * As ever, if you can, [donate to Shelter](https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/runnerpod) - and yeah we still have stickers

Failing to read the country's mood, we met up once again to talk about fitness, running and tech. Nick has found a new dead format to worry about, Jon is putting it all on the plate, and we offer up a hot take on Zoom calls. Remember, if you don't use lockdown to learn a language, write that novel or work on your side hustle you're probably just trying to keep going as best as you can in pretty testing circumstances and in all honestly that's as worth clapping as anything else going on right now. You're doing great and we're proud of you. This week's links: * Nick bought a [Kano](https://kano.me/uk/store/products/computer-kit). It's probably worth looking for on ebay as the novelty wears of fast. * Tbh the Kano is a Raspbery Pi with bells on, so maybe just get one of those and get the same benefit of a one hour diversion for the kids for a few quid... Nick could use [this kit to make a speaker for his NFC cards](https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/pirate-radio-pi-zero-w-project-kit). What a talking point that would be. * He also got a [Yoto speaker](https://www.yotoplay.com/) which he swears is worth it. * Jon isn't on Twitter except for when he does [this](https://twitter.com/jonhickman/status/1254428473805987840).

Stay safe, keep well, and don't let the bastards grind you down. Charities are getting fewer funds right now and yet it feels like we're being asked to help more and more so we're sorry in advance for asking you to dig into your pockets, but here we are. Thing is, if you're still working right now you haven't got anything to spend your money on so do have a think about doing what you can to help people who need it. Here's one thought. If you had gone out to town drinking this weekend, and had to get a taxi back, how much would you have paid for a ride home without even thinking about it? That's £10 or £20 you wouldn't have missed but still have in your bank because of the 'Rona. So why not chuck that money to a charity you think can make a difference? If you want, tell people about it, and ask them to do the same: #howmuchyouusuallypay If you're an absolute specimen, and therefore wouldn't have been out boozing, maybe send your gym subs or race fee for something you're not doing to charity instead. If we were going to pick three charities how about: * [Shelter](https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/runnerpod): this is the regular Runner Pod charity, helping people access safe housing and lobbying for change in housing in the UK. * [Brum Baby Bank](https://www.gofundme.com/f/brum-baby-bank): helping families access nappies, formula and baby food in Birmingham. Ask around, there'll be a group like this round your ends. * [Refuge](https://campaign.refuge.org.uk/page/58366/donate/1?ea.tracking.id=EMER-landing): helping the victims of domestic abuse in the UK, which is an ever more acute issue during lockdown. We know some of you are on furlough or out of work right now and we really feel for you. If you are one of the lucky ones mostly unaffected financially, please do your best to reach out to help folk in need. However you've been affected by all of this keep running, keep cycling, keep exercising—it's the one thing we've still got and it's the one thing that will keep your head clear. But most of all remember, there's a cop watching you. Take care friends, Nick & Jon x

Help yourself to one of Daddy's sports biscuits and enter with us into the Book of Dreams, where we discuss the 2020 National Running Show, meet our idols (and immediately reject them) and try out yet another sports watch. Nick has been ghosting Jon, Jon has been giving Nick's home media set up short shrift, and both lads are asking: if the pants people are here then why aren't you? * [Spotify Kids](https://www.spotify.com/uk/kids) * [List Envy Podcast](https://listenvypod.com/) * [Jon's List Envy Episode](https://listenvypod.com/e/top-5-things-were-leaving-behind-37f292a20c5692/) * [National Running Show Birmingham](https://nationalrunningshowbirmingham.com/) * [Tailwind Nutrition](https://www.tailwindnutrition.co.uk/) * [Polar Vantage M Running Watch](https://amzn.to/2SRdHmi) * [Barkley Marathons](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barkley_Marathons) * Bad Boy Running: [Laz Lake Interview Part 1](http://badboyrunningpodcast.com/ep-151-lazarus-lake-aka-gary-cantrell-on-barkley-marathons-part-1) and [Part 2](http://badboyrunningpodcast.com/ep-152-laz-lake-on-barkley-marathons-and-other-races-part-2) * Join us on [Strava](https://www.strava.com/clubs/you-don-t-look-like-a-runner-445740) * Runner Pod stickers still available if you [donate to Shelter](https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/runnerpod)

Nick is not well because he has eaten vegetarian takeaways for science. Links from this week's show: * [River Cottage Veg Everyday](https://amzn.to/2NYopWK) * [Veggie Lean in 15: 15-minute Veggie Meals with Workouts](https://amzn.to/2Gpnmut)

Merry New Year! This week we go deep on home automation tech. We talk about winning at Veganuary, Nick treats us to not one but two bluetooth headphone reviews, Jon feels physically sick at the sound of the word "nubbin", and we make plans for the future which will never be mentioned again. * [Moko sports belt](https://amzn.to/361L0Yl) * [The Vegetarian Athlete’s Cookbook](https://amzn.to/2NTQFtB) * [Sports Jelly Beans](https://amzn.to/2G4DaCI) * [Cambridge Audio Melomania Bluetooth headphones](https://amzn.to/367UVMe) * The Spring [Rutland Half](https://www.therutlandmarathon.co.uk/rutland-spring-half-marathon) is on Mania Half weekend * [Apple AirPod Pro](https://amzn.to/2R5SENj) * [Teckin smart plugs](https://amzn.to/2ug0SsY) * [Meross smart plugs](https://amzn.to/2G3dczz) * [Google Home Mini](https://store.google.com/gb/product/google_home_mini) * [Google Home Max](https://store.google.com/gb/product/google_home_max) * [Google Home Speaker groups](https://www.techadvisor.co.uk/how-to/digital-home/google-homegroup-3665671/) * [Symfonsik: the Ikea Sonos](https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/news/symfonisk-collection-pubaafe6500) * [Amazon Echo Dot](https://amzn.to/2NDDdty) * [Smart speakers in kids' rooms](https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/are-smart-speakers-really-safe-for-children) Don't worry, we don't just do this in January so we will be back next week.

OK juicer, it's time for some fitness, running and tech chat. This week it's actually about ethics in bluetooth headphone journalism. Nick's on the cans, Jon just wants to eat his dinner, and we try out some edgy current affairs jokes that are already out of date. As well as comparing notes on our latest runs, we get into some heavy follow up about ethics and consumption in consumer electronics, put together our Runner Starter Pack and explore the curious world of boozed up running. * [Cheese and wine marathon](https://secretldn.com/marathon-du-medoc-cheese-wine/) * [The Hovding Airbag cycle helmet—scroll down for the video](https://hovding.com/hovding3/) * [This fucking hat though lads](https://twitter.com/runnerpod/status/1198389536532901889) * Tell us about your [#runningstarterpack](https://twitter.com/hashtag/runningstarterpack?src=hashtag_click) on [popular hell site twitter dot com](https://twitter.com/runnerpod) * Send us shitty content and SEO proposals to [anything]@runnerpod.com * Join us on [Strava](https://www.strava.com/clubs/you-don-t-look-like-a-runner-445740) * Stickers still available if you [donate to Shelter](https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/runnerpod)

Jon explains how to get everyone's attention during the Great North Run. Nick alleges he wears glasses. We are rather foolhardy in mentioning the date on tape. * [Find us on Strava](https://www.strava.com/clubs/you-don-t-look-like-a-runner-445740) * [Tell us things on Twitter](https://twitter.com/runnerpod) * [You can't pay for this content, but you can donate to Shelter](https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/runnerpod)

Welcome to Season 2! What awaits you inside? Will there be a controversial new younger character who changes the dynamic of the show? Will Jon remember how to read the outro? Has the Audio Veteran delivered? You can probably guess the answers to all of these questions but it's about the journey so grab your stickers, pour a juice and settle in. --- Oh a quick plug. We briefly mention in the show that Jon is running the Great North Run for charity (mate). It's a charity that's really important to Jon's family. We didn't really get into it and that race will be run by the time we tape the next show, so if you'd like to know more here are some links: * [The charity is the Royal Orthopaedic Hospital Charitable Fund ](https://rohcharity.org/). * [This is the Just Giving page complete with a tl;dr backstory](https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/corrina-hickman) * [This is the full story about why he chose this charity if you want to know more. It's a bit emotional, sorry](https://www.facebook.com/899120505/posts/10162262870665506?sfns=mo) *Remember: only the good ones read the show notes*

I'm not sure how to do a trigger warning when you don't read the show notes but please be aware that this episode does go into eating disorders and wider mental health issues. There are some jokes first. * [Find us on Strava](https://www.strava.com/clubs/you-don-t-look-like-a-runner-445740) * [Tell us things on Twitter](https://twitter.com/runnerpod) * [Ate](https://youate.com/app/)

Grab yourself a vegan milkshake, settle down, then stand up, throw the milkshake at a racist, and then settle down for a weekly slice of fitness, running, and tech. It's a running heavy episode this week. Sorry tech fans. Nick has a 10k PB, despite being at the wrong location, Jon has been running with kids, and we welcome the season of disgusting sweaty summer runs. * [Find us on Strava](https://www.strava.com/clubs/you-don-t-look-like-a-runner-445740) * [Tell us things on Twitter](https://twitter.com/runnerpod)

Welcome back, it's been a long week. I'll be honest, I lost the show notes. But you don't read them anyway, and anything I write here will be lost like tears in rain. So, we will have almost certainly discussed fitness, running and tech. Let me know what this episode of the show is about by tweeting @runnerpod. Peace.

The thing about fitness, running and tech is it's the little differences. Like in Chester they have the metric system... Welcome back! Kick off your over-pronation shoes, slide into your best slippers and pour yourself a wine based drink, it's time to catch up with your good friends Nick and Jon. Following on from our recent "after dark" episode, we are on our best behaviour this week. Find out how everyone did on the Mania Half, sync your running diaries up with ours and please, just to be clear, take note that the water IS deep. * [The Mania Half 2019 results](https://themaniahalf.co.uk/) * Jon is running [Chester Marathon](https://ale.niftyentries.com/MBNA-Chester-Marathon-2019) and [Yorkshire Marathon](https://www.runforall.com/events/marathon/yorkshire-marathon/) * [Nick will be running Rutland Water Half](https://www.therutlandmarathon.co.uk/copy-of-the-rutland-marathon) * [Join our friends of the show running club on Strava](https://www.strava.com/clubs/you-don-t-look-like-a-runner-445740) * Tweet us [@runnerpod](https://twitter.com/runnerpod) * And please call your mom

Dear listener This week's show notes, which surely you will not read, come in the form of an open open letter to friend of the show Blessed With Pace. Truly, the open letter is the coward's medium, as you will discover in this week's show. But while you may want world peace, I simply want to prove the power of mind control. At 29 minutes into this recording I will deliver a promise I made to friend of the show Blessed With Pace to use the power of my mind to make Nick talk to me about passports. I was so impressed with myself for doing this I absolutely lost my shit, for which I apologise. We also talked about vegetarian nuggets. You deserve better than this, Your servant, Jon

Sorry everyone, but this is You Don’t Look Like a Runner and we are back. This week intellecual property will be stolen, Nick gets upstaged by Jon's other podcast husband, Jon makes like the Jesus of North Birmingham, and you, dear listener, are very much put in your place. * [160bpm Punk: run punk run on Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/user/spotify/playlist/37i9dQZF1DXbLSzx0CLgOw?si=E-DTPFNOTPOcnouY2QuCHQ) * [The Mania Half is coming, 7th April 2019](https://themaniahalf.co.uk/) * [We have a Slack. We don't know why](http://bit.ly/runnerslack) Talk to us on [Slack](http://bit.ly/runnerslack) or tweet us [@runnerpod](https://twitter.com/runnerpod). Our email address is only for advance fee fraudsters now.

We don't just do this in January you know: it's time for some fitness and tech chat. Nick has inevitably bought a television, Jon needs pavement advice from Tom Hardy, and we double up and then double down on headphones. * [The Mania Half is coming](https://themaniahalf.co.uk/) * [Tom Hardy's movie Locke](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locke_(film) is basically a [disaster movie which takes place over the phone](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ao2r6qD22A) * [Armstrong & Miller: it's going to piss down](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNdrgjjsHsM) * [Hyphen Bluetooth headphones on Indiegogo](https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/hyphen-the-gold-standard-of-wireless-earbuds#/) * [Let's try this out: join our Slack group](http://bit.ly/runnerslack)

Welcome back to your favourite fortnightly epsiode of weekly updates of fitness, running and tech. Turn up the sexy thermostat it's time to get involved in the neighbourhood watch. We take a weird segue into consumer advice, Nick is running again (again), Jon is picking a personal trainer and not a murderer, and we get serious about emergencies. * [Boldmere Bullets runner saved by his pals](https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/mans-life-saved-after-boldmere-15677771) * [Running bracelets with emergency details](https://www.onelifeid.com/category/id_wristbands) * [Adding ICE details on iphone and Apple Watch](https://www.imore.com/how-add-emergency-contacts-iphone-apple-watch) * [Adding ICE to Android phones](https://firstaidtrainingcooperative.co.uk/setting-emergency-contacts-on-android/)

Welcome to this year’s episode of weekly podcast You Don’t Look Like a Runner. This week we refuse to give up on our Christmas diets, Nick shares some medical history, Jon finds the perfect gift, and we get excited about the new Gregg’s vegan sausage roll. * [Jon received this survivalist running bracelet](https://amzn.to/2R61xYE) * [The Mania Half is coming](https://themaniahalf.co.uk/) * [The Great North Bike Ride](http://www.greatnorthbikeride.com/) * [Greggs launches vegan sausage roll](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jan/02/greggs-launches-vegan-sausage-roll)

Welcome to this week’s runner pod a podcast for pod people where we discuss sleep pods and AirPods and pod hotels. And Dave Mustaine too. * [Nick begrudgingly enjoyed this gift](https://www.lastexittonowhere.com/) * [Nick was very suspicious about this gift](https://www.dreams.co.uk/sleeppal-sleep-tracker/p/200-00010) * [Nick set Jon some homework to watch Some Kind of Monster](https://amzn.to/2D1ktjW)

Welcome back to the utopian world of You Don't Look Like a Runner where anybody can get the new customer deals. Come and delve deep into our freezer drawers to find some veggie protein! This week we try to work out how we've got the office bug when we work from home, Nick is on the run from the Strava feds, Jon runs out of time, and we pitch a new format for the Apprentice. ## This week’s links * [Google assistant can book a restaurant](https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/8/17332070/google-assistant-makes-phone-call-demo-duplex-io-2018) * [Tough 10 Peak District](https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/get-involved/find-an-event/charity-runs/tough-10/tough-10-peak-district) * [Friend of the Show Sam (Blessed with Pace on Twitter) went for a nice jog up Snowdon](https://twitter.com/BlessedWithPace/status/1048914556427415554) * Join our [Strava club](https://www.strava.com/clubs/you-don-t-look-like-a-runner-445740) and track runs with us. * Go to [runnerpod.com](http://www.runnerpod.com) where you can look through old episodes and read the show notes (please). If you have any comments, questions or thoughts please tweet us [@runnerpod](http://www.twitter.com/runnerpod) or you can email us [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]). Want to start a Podcast? We trust Podiant to host ours. Go to: [podiant.co/signup](http://www.podiant.co/signup) and use the offer code “RUNNER” to get 25% off membership for the first 3 months.

Welcome back to the rich universe of fitness, running and tech for some vintage gaslighting from your good friends Nick and Jon. This week we share one neat trick to lose weight through eating more and make a strong pitch to the podcast advertising gods. We go back to the well that is [Runner Pod Episode 5](http://runnerpod.com/e/355e57e21900faL/), Nick has been deleting sensitive data from our inbox, Jon’s mattress has a disappointing whoosh, and we pour one out for the iPhone SE—rest in power, tiny handsets. ## This week’s links * [Listen back to episode 5](http://runnerpod.com/e/355e57e21900faL/) * [Eating to lose weight](https://healthyeater.com/eat-to-lose-weight) * [No more iPhone SE… and will there be an iPhone SE2?](https://www.macworld.co.uk/news/iphone/iphone-se-2-2018-3500611/) * [Correction: WileyFox don’t seem to sell a 4” phone](https://wileyfox.com/) * [Apple Watch Series 4 for Runners](https://www.runnersworld.com/gear/a23103934/apple-watch-series-4-unveil/) * [Fancy smart watches: TAG Heuer Connected](https://www.t3.com/reviews/tag-heuer-connected-watch-the-best-android-wear-watch-ever) * Join our [Strava club](https://www.strava.com/clubs/you-don-t-look-like-a-runner-445740) and track runs with us. * Go to [runnerpod.com](http://www.runnerpod.com) where you can look through old episodes, read the show notes (please) and find some blog posts too. If you have any comments, questions or thoughts please tweet us [@runnerpod](http://www.twitter.com/runnerpod) or you can email us [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]). Want to start a Podcast? We trust Podiant to host ours. Go to: [podiant.co/signup](http://www.podiant.co/signup) and use the offer code “RUNNER” to get 25% off membership for the first 3 months. Peace (out).

Hello you, it’s time for your regular collective mugging off from Nick and Jon. This “week” Jon’s deaf cat gets in the mix early and often, so be ready to turn down the volume on your Acoustic Veteran ERLs. We discuss things that happened at Butlins which were supposed to stay at Butlins, Nick confesses intimate secrets about his love of the band Feeder, Jon still doesn’t know the words, and we mourn the inevitable loss of (just one of) Nick’s Apple AirPods. *Please remember to physically press the like button* ## Other stuff you won't read * Donate to [Shelter](https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/runnerpod). * Join our [Strava club](https://www.strava.com/clubs/runnerpod) and track runs with us. * Go to [runnerpod.com](http://www.runnerpod.com) where you can look through old episodes, read show notes and blog posts. * If you have any comments, questions or thoughts please tweet us [@runnerpod](http://www.twitter.com/runnerpod) or you can email us [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]). Want to start a Podcast? We trust Podiant to host ours. Go to: [podiant.co/signup](http://podiant.co/signup) and use the offer code “RUNNER” to get 25% off membership for the first 3 months.

Nick and Jon talk about sleep, dead flies, octothorpeUKrunchat and shaving into a big sheet. Just your classic dose of running, fitness, and tech chat.

This week we show you how the sausage is made, get wet, and secrets are revealed. There is also more tent chat. ## Fitness Nick is not rowing, but he has a personal trainer now. ## Running Jon is a moron and can't run a proper tempo run so please [tell him what he is doing wrong](https://www.strava.com/athletes/29576663) ## Tech [Monitors for MacBook users](https://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/mac/best-mac-monitors-displays-2018-3642376/) ## Other stuff you won't read * Donate to [Shelter](https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/runnerpod). * Join our [Strava club](https://www.strava.com/clubs/runnerpod) and track runs with us. * Go to [runnerpod.com](http://www.runnerpod.com) where you can look through old episodes, read show notes and blog posts. * If you have any comments, questions or thoughts please tweet us [@runnerpod](http://www.twitter.com/runnerpod) or you can email us [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]). Want to start a Podcast? We trust Podiant to host ours. Go to: [podiant.co/signup](http://podiant.co/signup) and use the offer code “RUNNER” to get 25% off membership for the first 3 months.

"It's been a while", but we're back and so is Jon's cat, "well rounded character" listener Ross and, if you listen closely, Nick's actual landline going off in the background. We discuss both types of tent ("air tent" and "tent"), Nick is not a complicated man, Jon accepts his fate, and we receive a hostile takeover from breakout new character Scott. ## Sticker giveaway and charity fundraiser We smashed our target, so thanks to all who donated (except for Scott). The Just Giving page is still open, and the stickers are still here! If you want a sticker and you're in the UK, make a donation of £3.75 **or more** to Shelter by visiting: [https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/runnerpod](https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/runnerpod). Email us your address and we will send you a Runner Pod Sticker. If you're outside the UK, please email us first to discuss so we can look at the postage situation. We hope to accommodate all reasonable requests. ## This week's links * [Shock news as 23 and Me sell all the data they have on your DNA](https://gizmodo.com/23andme-is-getting-lots-of-money-from-big-pharma-to-sha-1827891890) * [Air Tents](https://www.decathlon.co.uk/C-756310-inflatable-and-air-tents) * [Roger Milla](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaAq2LcbKPY) * [E-bikes](https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/electrically-assisted-bikes-lazy-or-healthy) * Join our [Strava club](https://www.strava.com/clubs/runnerpod) and track runs with us. * Go to [runnerpod.com](http://www.runnerpod.com) where you can look through old episodes, read show notes and blog posts. * If you have any comments, questions or thoughts please tweet us [@runnerpod](http://www.twitter.com/runnerpod) or you can email us [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]). Want to start a Podcast? We trust Podiant to host ours. Go to: [podiant.co/signup](http://podiant.co/signup) and use the offer code “RUNNER” to get 25% off membership for the first 3 months.

It's coming home.

It's a follow-up-a-polloza! We discuss the sticker giveaway, Nick eats humble pie at the chirpractors, Jon reviews online giving websites, and we make some very rash promises. ## Sticker giveaway and charity fundraiser We made some Stickers. They're quite lovely, great quality and they feature the Runner Pod logo. [Your laptop could look like this beaut](https://twitter.com/runnerpod/status/1001866442415988737). If you'd like one we want you to have one and here's what you need to do... If you're in the UK, make a donation of £3.75 **or more** to Shelter by visiting: [https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/runnerpod](https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/runnerpod). Email us your address and we will send you a Runner Pod Sticker. If you're outside the UK, please email us first to discuss so we can look at the postage situation. We hope to accommodate all reasonable requests. If you raise £150 by the end of June we have promised to double it. ## This week's links * [Gift aid explained](https://justgiving-charity-support.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/204663747-Understanding-Gift-Aid) * Join our [Strava club](https://www.strava.com/clubs/runnerpod) and track runs with us. * Go to [runnerpod.com](http://www.runnerpod.com) where you can look through old episodes, read show notes and blog posts. * If you have any comments, questions or thoughts please tweet us [@runnerpod](http://www.twitter.com/runnerpod) or you can email us [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]). Want to start a Podcast? We trust Podiant to host ours. Go to: [podiant.co/signup](http://podiant.co/signup) and use the offer code “RUNNER” to get 25% off membership for the first 3 months. We don't know if we're here next week or not. It's a whole thing. See you soon.

Let's be honest, you weren't expecting another weekly show this soon but here we are nonetheless. This week we recorded face to face for only the second time, so things get weird quickly. We discuss the Moreton family biscuit barrel, Nick has to call a man about his head, Jon can't make a connection, and it turns out _we're in a band_. ## Want a sticker? We made some Stickers. They're quite lovely, great quality and they feature the Runner Pod logo. [Your laptop could look like this beaut](https://twitter.com/runnerpod/status/1001866442415988737). If you'd like one we want you to have one and here's what you need to do... If you're in the UK, make a donation of £3.75 **or more** to Shelter by visiting: [https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/runnerpod](https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/runnerpod). Email us your address and we will send you a Runner Pod Sticker. If you're outside the UK, please email us first to discuss so we can look at the postage situation. We hope to accommodate all reasonable requests. The ins and outs of the fundraiser will be discussed in Episode 29. Please note we have limited supplies because Nick took loads, so it's first come first served. ## This week's links * [Rutland Half & Marathon](https://www.therutlandmarathon.co.uk/copy-of-the-rutland-marathon) * Join our [Strava club](https://www.strava.com/clubs/runnerpod) and track runs with us. * Go to [runnerpod.com](http://www.runnerpod.com) where you can look through old episodes, read show notes and blog posts. * If you have any comments, questions or thoughts please tweet us [@runnerpod](http://www.twitter.com/runnerpod) or you can email us [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]). Want to start a Podcast? We trust Podiant to host ours. Go to: [podiant.co/signup](http://podiant.co/signup) and use the offer code “RUNNER” to get 25% off membership for the first 3 months. See you next week!(?)

Chasing a PB, we're dropping our second "weekly" episode this week. In this episode we track down Fat Nick on Strava and find out if Chiropractic is a thing. We talk marathons, pilates, and get two tickets to Nick's post-rowing gun show. Nick has done his homework, Jon dreams of SIS gels, and we still don't get to talk about our amazing new Runner Pod stickers. * [Science Vs on Chiropractic](https://www.gimletmedia.com/science-vs/chiropractors-theyre-cracked) * [Rock'n'Roll Marathon Liverpool](http://www.runrocknroll.com/liverpool/) See you next "week". Thanks to our hosting company Podiant for getting us into your ears. If you want to start a show yourself, go to: [podiant.co/signup](http://podiant.co/signup) and use the offer code “RUNNER” to get 25% off membership for the first 3 months. Go to [runnerpod.com](http://www.runnerpod.com) where you can look through old episodes, read show notes and blog posts. If you have any comments, questions or thoughts please tweet us [@runnerpod](http://www.twitter.com/runnerpod) or you can email us [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]).

You've waited too damn long for this episode for Jon to get precious about show notes. We talked a lot about his watch, and a bit about Panini albums. Or maybe we didn't. That bit might have got cut. Things to do: * Make sure you watch Halt and Catch Fire soon * Join our running club on [Strava](https://www.strava.com/clubs/runnerpod) * Jon wrote up how he feels about his headphones for a thing he never finished. Read that on the [blog](http://runnerpod.com/b/363f21f330de28/) See you next "week". Thanks to our hosting company Podiant for getting us into your ears. If you want to start a show yourself, go to: [podiant.co/signup](http://podiant.co/signup) and use the offer code “RUNNER” to get 25% off membership for the first 3 months. Go to [runnerpod.com](http://www.runnerpod.com) where you can look through old episodes, read show notes and blog posts. If you have any comments, questions or thoughts please tweet us [@runnerpod](http://www.twitter.com/runnerpod) or you can email us [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]).

Just like that, just like that, we're here to chat shit about fitness, running and tech. This "week" we teach you a life hack to be Andy Serkis on the cheap and get our excuses in for a series of terrible runs. We refuse to apologise for an extended chat about JavaScript, Nick does some ERL learning the hard way, Jon has no mates on Strava, and we almost certainly over promise on the show notes (which none of you read anyway). - [Pronation, explained](https://www.runnersworld.com/running-shoes/pronation-explained) - [Gait analysis](https://www.runnersneed.com/expert-advice/gear-guides/gait-analysis.html) - [Footbalance custom insoles](https://www.footbalance.com/) - [Vue.js](https://vuejs.org/) - [The Mania Half](http://themaniahalf.co.uk/) results are in - [Jon's WrestleMania ear worm](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv_hYvj_g3w) - [Vote for us in this nonsense](http://www.britishpodcastawards.com/vote) just like [Jillian did](https://twitter.com/runnerpod/status/985282970402590721?s=09) - Be [Jon's friend on Strava](https://www.strava.com/athletes/jonhickman). He's desperate. - [You Don't Look Like a Runner is now a club on Strava](https://www.strava.com/clubs/445740) because obviously.

Nick and Jon punch each other for bantz. Important links: - [The Mania Half](http://themaniahalf.co.uk) - [When the Course Wins: No Finishers at the 2018 Barkley Marathons](https://www.runnersworld.com/general-interest/no-finishers-at-2018-barkley-marathons)

What did you do in the Bluetooth wars, Daddy? Welcome back to You Don’t Look Like a Runner. This week we catch up with a number of long lost friends as we take a deep dive on the email and check in with the Audio Veteran from MIT. We talk about the /fucking snow/ again, Nick has a right to be forgotten, Jon is humbled by a swimming float, and we sharpen up plans for the Mania Half. * [How Hard Can It Be?—back to basics running event series](http://codrc.co.uk/events-10k-half-marathon-marathon-shropshire/) * [AfterShokz Trekz Titanium](http://amzn.to/2pyE1no) * [ERL headphones](https://geterl.com) * [Jon’s swimming routine card](https://twitter.com/runnerpod/status/972504521971773441) * [Birmingham International Marathon has been cancelled](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-43431274) * [...and the Birmingham Velo has been too](https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/controversial-velo-birmingham-cycle-ride-14229058) * [The Mania Half](http://runnerpod.com/b/3610a8ca26650e/) New people who sign up using that coupon code will get 25% off their membership for the first 3 months. Go to: [podiant.co/signup](http://podiant.co/signup) and use the offer code “RUNNER”. Go to [runnerpod.com](http://www.runnerpod.com) where you can look through old episodes, read show notes and blog posts. If you have any comments, questions or thoughts please tweet us [@runnerpod](http://www.twitter.com/runnerpod) or you can email us [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]).

It’s the show that changes every week! It’s Runner Pod, and we are here once again to talk about fitness, running and lithium ion batteries. This week we are in a self-congratulatory mood off the back of the triumph that was episode 21 (or was it 20? Nobody is sure anymore). We talk about adjusting training plans when life happens, Nick makes a bold claim that something which has run once is, in fact, a tradition, Jon chooses shoes wisely, and we audition for /I Love the 90s/. Please ensure that you fully discharge your podcast player’s batteries before you play the show. * [Battery Memory effect](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_effect) * [The Jog Shop 20—South Downs 20 mile race](http://www.jogshoponline.co.uk/thejogshopjog.html) We are hosted by Podiant and you can be too. New people who sign up using that coupon code will get 25% off their membership for the first 3 months. Go to: [podiant.co/signup](http://podiant.co/signup) and use the offer code “RUNNER”. Go to [runnerpod.com](http://www.runnerpod.com) where you can look through old episodes, read show notes and blog posts. If you have any comments, questions or thoughts please tweet us [@runnerpod](http://www.twitter.com/runnerpod) or you can email us [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected])

We’re back, like the rappers are, to lay down diss tracks for one another through the medium of podcasting. This week our biggest fan doesn’t listen to the show, Nick gets stretched and Jon feels vibrations through his skull. If you want to listen along without spoilers, please watch _The Barkley Marathons_ before playing or pause at 43:25 and then hit us back, just to chat, truly yours, this is Stan. * [Top Four #36: Misheard Eddie Vedder Lyrics - Relay FM](https://www.relay.fm/topfour/36) * [Aftershokz Trekz Titanium bone conducting headphones](http://amzn.to/2FASmGJ) * [Reconcilable Differences #68: includes a discussion on The Barkley Marathons](https://www.relay.fm/rd/68) * [The Barkley Marathons: The Race That Eats Its Young – A Documentary Film](http://barkleymovie.com/)

After the Rian Johnson inspired avant-garde episodes 18 and 19, we settle back into a more accessible edit. This week we have a live reveal of our Great North Run ballot results. We talk Bluetooth headphones, Jon gets a nosebleed from playing at the highest level of football he’s ever reached, and we make plans to discuss our favourite running movie, The Barkley Marathons. Nick has fallen for the advertisers' tricks, Jon keeps things really clean, and we fail to get to grips with the millennial space race. * [Jon talks Trainspotting on Via VHS](https://viavhs.podiant.co/e/35ea8513598e2e/) * [Hindenburg | Radio editing software](https://hindenburg.com/) * [OnePlus says up to 40,000 customers were affected by credit card security breach - The Verge](https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/19/16908990/oneplus-credit-card-security-breach-investigation-40000-affected) * [Discussion of voice synthesisers on Beware of the Leopard](http://btlpodcast.com/e/35ee305d3c9e12/) * [Star Tours the Adventure Continues: Star Wars Attraction | Disneyland Paris](http://www.disneylandparis.co.uk/attractions/disneyland-park/star-tours-the-aventures-continue/) * [South Staffordshire FA Veterans (Division 2)](https://fulltime.thefa.com/ff/LeagueDetails?leagueid=19643855) * [Jon’s headphones](http://amzn.to/2C1Nffo) * [Nick has ordered the “Ultimate Zero-Compromise Total-Wireless Earphones” on Indiegogo](https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ultimate-zero-compromise-total-wireless-earphones--2#/) Next time we will discuss The Barkley Marathons: The Race That Eats Its Young—[watch it now on Netflix](https://www.netflix.com/gb/title/80076413) or [buy it on Amazon](http://amzn.to/2nQSmdk). New people who sign up using that coupon code will get 25% off their membership for the first 3 months. Go to: [podiant.co/signup](http://podiant.co/signup) and use the offer code “RUNNER”. Go to [runnerpod.com](http://www.runnerpod.com) where you can look through old episodes, read show notes and blog posts. If you have any comments, questions or thoughts please tweet us [@runnerpod](http://www.twitter.com/runnerpod) or you can email us [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected])

Hello and welcome to You Don’t Look Like a Runner—an avant garde podcast, making unusual editing decisions and challenging your expectations of what this series is all about. This is part two of an epic new year chat which started in episode 18. This week Jon goes round the houses and Nick regrets not making a purchase. We discuss lightbulbs, voice assistants and Greggs (the baker). Nick is desperate to go to bed, Jon is not, and we spend a long time talking about the OnePlus 5T. ## A word from our sponsor Thanks to our podcasting host [Podiant](http://podiant.co/) for supporting _You Don’t Look Like a Runner_. Start your own show today with 25% off podcast hosting for three months. Just go to podiant.co/signup and use the offer code “RUNNER” for 25% off your first three months of podcast hosting. ## Show notes * [VTech KidiZoom Duo Camera](http://amzn.to/2FvppuG) * [Hive Smart Lighting Products | Hive Home](https://www.hivehome.com/products/categories/lights) * [Does Apple now make too many products? | afr.com](http://www.afr.com/technology/technology-companies/apple/does-apple-now-make-too-many-products-20170511-gw34rz) * [iPhone SE](https://www.theverge.com/2016/3/25/11302968/apple-iphone-se-review) aka “The Great North Run of Phones”, reviewed on The Verge * [OnePlus 5T review: polished to a T - The Verge](https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/20/16672600/oneplus-5t-smartphone-android-2017-review) * Android Pay promotion: [Visa Tap & Win](https://www.android.com/intl/en_uk/pay/promotions/visa/) * [Greggs](https://www.greggs.co.uk) * [Bear - Notes for iPhone, iPad and Mac](http://www.bear-writer.com) * [The all-new Things. Your to-do list for Mac & iOS](https://www.culturedcode.com/things/) * [Amazon is planning to end support for its online MP3 locker - The Verge](https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/20/16803024/amazon-shutting-down-music-storage-subscriptions-autorip) * [Why I hate your iPhone hot takes. Thread:

The elite runners may nearly be back at the finish, but the green wave of podcasting is just setting off which means it's time for us to get started on this year we call 2018. We set ambitious goals, plan to infiltrate a gamergate stretching class, and get some long overdue slidey experience. Nick's been over the mountain, Jon's got a very long agenda, and we employ an unorthodox Runner Pod editing strategy. This conversation will conclude in Runner Pod 19: Between my Face and My Finger. See you next week (honest). ## A word from our sponsor Thanks to our podcasting host [Podiant](http://podiant.co/) for supporting _You Don’t Look Like a Runner_. Start your own show today with 25% off podcast hosting for three months. Just go to podiant.co/signup and use the offer code “RUNNER” for 25% off your first three months of podcast hosting. ## Show notes * Nick’s targets: * Lose 2 stone by June * Lose another by September * Get a sub-2 half marathon * Weigh in every week * Hit 14 stone by the end of the year * Jon’s targets: * Liverpool marathon * Work on core strength * [Strides: Goal & Habit Tracker](https://www.stridesapp.com/) * [STREAKS. The to-do list that helps you form good habits. For iPhone.](https://streaksapp.com/) * [Broga](https://www.broga.uk.com/) * [Great North Run](http://www.greatrun.org/great-north-run) * [Liverpool Marathon, Half Marathon & 5K Races | Rock ’n’ Roll Marathon Series](http://www.runrocknroll.com/liverpool/) * [Leicester Marathon](http://leicestermarathon.org.uk/) We are online at [runnerpod.com](http://www.runnerpod.com/) where you can look through old episodes, read show notes and [blog posts](http://runnerpod.com/b/). Comments, questions and thoughts please tweet us [@runnerpod](http://www.twitter.com/runnerpod) [@jonhickman](http://www.twitter.com/jonhickman) or [@ngmoreton](http://www.twitter.com/ngmoreton). You can email us [email protected]. And don’t forget to go to podiant.co/signup and use the offer code “RUNNER” for 25% off your first three months of podcast hosting.

Like when Doctor Who stops being a series and instead throws out occasional seasonal specials, we are back—back to discuss routers, the kids' Kindle Fire, and extreme sports pedagogy. Nick's hills are not alive with the sound of music, Jon's phone is absolutely terrible, and we fail to talk about running at all. Merry Christmas ya filthy animals!

It’s time to kick off your trainers and grab yourself a nourishing bowl of nonsense soup. This week Nick attempts to talk himself down from a major purchase by reading its tech specs and features out on mic. We talk about our broken old man backs, plan some dream desk setups, and go shopping for Lycra at Poundland. Jon drops an easy catch, Nick accepts that he just likes running, and we really hope that someone plays the noise. If you liked the show, please consider supporting this week's charity by buying someone you know a Christmas gift at Oxfam—we have chosen the Super Girl gift, which can help to provide education, leadership training and attitude-changing media campaigns, helping to empower women and girls to claim their civil rights: [www.oxfam.org.uk/runnerpod](http://www.oxfam.org.uk/runnerpod) • [Ashes 2017-18: How to follow England’s tour of Australia on the BBC - BBC Sport](http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/41905863) • [Our giddy first episode](http://runnerpod.com/e/3547a9a505ac64L/) and the [The Lost Tapes](http://runnerpod.com/b/354ac3e6f7e854L/) • Jon once had this [Transformers book and tape title](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRGa-xKjuNU) • [The aLLreLi Soba Bluetooth headphones](http://amzn.to/2kb1cEF) are back in stock. Rejoice! • Pep & Co—the Poundland clothing brand • [Deskmate | Innovative Standing Desk Converters](https://deskmate.co/) • [OnePlus 5T review](https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/20/16672600/oneplus-5t-smartphone-android-2017-review)

"I learned a new word today: gaslight" It’s not [like God taking a photograph](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19UROAIbtlw) but it’s apparently Nick’s favourite word. What else is happening? We go back to school to do some basic French, remedial German, and complex maths. Nick makes the best of a tragedy, Jon brings a surprise, and we layer up for winter runs. ## Show Notes * Thread is one of Jon’s other shows—in [this episode he mostly talks about this episode of Runner Pod](http://thread.fm/e/35ac386bb51230/). Rate, review, subscribe, and check for Jon’s many tropes. * [Matt Le Tissier](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Le_Tissier) does not know Jon but he was on one of our favourite podcasts, [Quickly Kevin, will he score?](https://www.quicklykevin.com/episodes/2017/2/23/matthew-letissier-s01e01). * [Guernsey Patois](http://guernseydonkey.com/?p=3371)—a language neither of us speak. * [Lady in a tube is going cheap for Black Friday](http://amzn.to/2hD5bsB)—she knows all the Moana songs. * [Do more with Amazon Alexa - IFTTT](https://ifttt.com/amazon_alexa). * [Teksta Voice Recognition Puppy](http://amzn.to/2hEXnXb). * [The ever anxious eye of Sauron](https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/lotr/images/f/f5/Eye_of_sauron.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/350?cb=20100402161911). * [Nuneaton bowling alley siege: Man arrested - BBC News](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-41714114) * [Through axle wheels](http://road.cc/content/feature/171353-how-fit-and-remove-through-axle-wheels). * [Should you change to tubeless tyres? - Cycling Weekly](http://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/product-news/should-you-change-to-tubeless-tyres-177480). * [Cycle to Work scheme: everything you need to know - BikeRadar](http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/article/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-cycle-to-work-scheme-18360/). * [Premiership Football Facts and Trivia by John White](http://amzn.to/2jvXapY). * [Answer Me This](http://amzn.to/2hDiJV7) is also available in the Nick Moreton Memorial Toilet Library. * [The Holding Role](https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/theholdingrole/episodes/2015-03-16T15_38_38-07_00)—a thing Nick used to make, which featured a football quiz. * Another podcast episode where Jon is pain the arse: [From the earth to the electronic thumb | Beware of the Leopard - The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy podcast](http://btlpodcast.com/e/35a70a8ea25876/). * [This smart salt shaker has voice controls but can’t grind salt - The Verge](https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/8/3/16088526/smalt-smart-salt-shaker-app-alexa-smartphone). * A lesson in trusting the audience, from George Lucas: [From my point of view the Jedi are evil. - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llLKar19XhA). We are online at [runnerpod.com](http://www.runnerpod.com) where you can look through old episodes, read show notes and blog posts. Comments, questions and thoughts please tweet us [@runnerpod](http://www.twitter.com/runnerpod), [@jonhickman](http://www.twitter.com/jonhickman) or [@ngmoreton](http://www.twitter.com/ngmoreton). You can email us [email protected].

Nick and Jon talk secret doors, being in the film Human Traffic, putting the full stop on the AirPods chat, getting locked in to platforms and trying to escape, breaking records and dealing with photographs that showcase our terrible running technique.

Back by popular demand, we present _Nick’s Shit Bluetooth Headphone Review_. Yes, this week Nick goes into detail on his new Apple AirPods. We reminisce about early 2000s route planning websites, cut a swathe through follow up, and pit £160 Bluetooth ear buds against £20 ones. Nick is having an identity crisis, Jon finds out if he’s running the London Marathon, and we fail to find out the age of WWE legend The Undertaker. ## Show Notes * Email us like Joe from Texas did [email protected]. * Nick doesn’t live on a [trap street](https://gizmodo.com/the-fake-places-that-only-exist-to-catch-copycat-cartog-1695414770)—his road is very big and real. * [You really shouldn’t address things to people by their nickname. Or send stuff to their cat](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/cat-needs-id-for-package-pickup_us_56682b0be4b080eddf56359f). * [Occupational surnames](http://brilliantmaps.com/european-surnames/). * [The Undertaker is 52](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Undertaker). * [Taker’s AirPods](https://twitter.com/runnerpod/status/917790669409792000). * [How do they fit in your ears](https://m.xkcd.com/1899/)? * [The W1 chip](https://9to5mac.com/guides/w1/) (we misspoke it as A5, that’s a tablet/phone chip). W1 is common to AirPod and BeatsX (also Beats Solo3 and Powerbeats3). * Our evergreen pic for running Bluetooth headphones: the [aLLreLi Soba](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bluetooth-Headphones-Retractable-Foldable-Universal/dp/B015XLF8BQ/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&qid=1502308693&sr=8-2-spell&keywords=allarelli+bluetooth&linkCode=sl1&tag=likearunner-21&linkId=707901223a99f1ae6273ebf280184a0f). * VLM18 London Marathon, [ballot and entry FAQs](https://www.virginmoneylondonmarathon.com/en-gb/faqs/). * Jon wrote an essay [about how Birmingham invented the London Marathon](http://runnerpod.com/b/357b730a6c9046/)—there are actual facts in it, it's an interesting bit of history. * [Quickly Kevin, will he score?](https://www.quicklykevin.com/), our new favourite 90s football podcast. You can find us on [Apple Podcasts](https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/you-dont-look-like-a-runner/id1259875775?mt=2), [Stitcher](http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/you-dont-look-like-a-runner?refid=stpr), on [Pocket Casts](http://pca.st/YXAA) and [Overcast](https://overcast.fm/itunes1259875775/you-dont-look-like-a-runner) or anywhere you like to get podcasts. Please do subscribe and leave us some reviews. It’s a huge help and it’s nice to know that you care. We are online at [runnerpod.com](http://www.runnerpod.com/) where you can look through old episodes, read show notes and [blog posts](http://runnerpod.com/b/). Comments, questions and thoughts please tweet us [@runnerpod](http://www.twitter.com/runnerpod) [@jonhickman](http://www.twitter.com/jonhickman) or [@ngmoreton](http://www.twitter.com/ngmoreton). You can email us [email protected]. Thanks to [Podiant](http://podiant.co/)—professional-grade podcast hosting at a price you choose—for supporting _You Don’t Look Like a Runner_.

Live from the echo chamber, Nick and Jon are back and woker than ever. This week we refine our sales pitch which can now be delivered by bike. We go deep on follow up, set some challenging goals, and go back to the drawing board on fitness watches. Nick has ordered new headphones, Jon just needs to try harder, and we wait for our advertising plans to go “woooosh” and _literally_ let all the air in. ## Show notes * Graeme Le Saux was often cast as an outsider within football for his _Guardian_[reading sensibilities and "sensitive" nature](https://www.theguardian.com/football/1999/may/15/newsstory.sport10). Here he is [discussing banter and changing room culture](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/12/footballer-banter-donald-trump-locker-room-insults). * We could be the [St Pauli](http://edition.cnn.com/2010/SPORT/football/08/18/football.st.pauli.punks/index.html) of village cricket * Nick [should have gone and got a Grey Nicholls bat](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/8550680/A-boyhood-dream-my-own-bespoke-bat.html) * [The Tag smart watch can be traded for a proper one after 3 years](http://www.t3.com/reviews/tag-heuer-connected-watch-the-best-android-wear-watch-ever ) * [How to read and understand vo2 max](https://www.wareable.com/health-and-wellbeing/vo2-max-guide-understand-and-increase-789) * A quick tour of [Garmin's stats dashboard](http://runreporter.com/running-gear-reviews/garmin/garmin-connect-review/). And [another one for good measure](https://www.wareable.com/garmin/how-to-run-better-with-garmin-connect "Link: https://www.wareable.com/garmin/how-to-run-better-with-garmin-connect"). * [Marco Arment on non-Apple podcast apps on Apple Watch](https://marco.org/2017/09/24/what-watch-podcast-apps-need "Link: https://marco.org/2017/09/24/what-watch-podcast-apps-need") * [Some problematic advice on running—or stating the obvious, we don't know which](https://twitter.com/kyle_j_kranz/status/866070030676623360) [ **Please consider checking your balls should you have them, or donating to support cancer charities**](http://itsinthebag.org.uk) You can find us on [Apple Podcasts](https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/you-dont-look-like-a-runner/id1259875775?mt=2), [Stitcher](http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/you-dont-look-like-a-runner?refid=stpr), on [Pocket Casts](http://pca.st/YXAA) and [Overcast](https://overcast.fm/itunes1259875775/you-dont-look-like-a-runner) or anywhere you like to get podcasts. Please do subscribe and leave us some reviews. It’s a huge help and it’s nice to know that you care. We are online at [runnerpod.com](http://www.runnerpod.com/ "Link: http://www.runnerpod.com/") where you can look through old episodes, read show notes and [blog posts](http://runnerpod.com/b/). Comments, questions and thoughts please tweet us [@runnerpod](http://www.twitter.com/runnerpod) [@jonhickman](http://www.twitter.com/jonhickman) or [@ngmoreton](http://www.twitter.com/ngmoreton). You can email us [email protected]. Thanks to [Podiant](http://podiant.co/)—professional-grade podcast hosting at a price you choose—for supporting _You Don’t Look Like a Runner_.

The perfect watch may be here, but we don’t know as the PR guy is on holiday. This week Nick apparently has nothing to say and yet we seem to have gone long again. We talk Apple Watch and FitBit Ionic, plan Jon’s retirement, and get in the buff(s). Nick doesn’t watch TV, Jon doesn’t watch the Internet, and we ask “Can you buy a tattoo from a corner shop”? Whatever you want, we have it all this week. ## Show notes * [VM Footwear](http://vmfootwear.com/)—Nick’s guy who does portraits on trainers but not on trains * [Apple Air Pods](http://amzn.to/2ycYlg6) may be great for running after all. Denny from [Diz Runs Radio](http://www.dizruns.com/podcast/) gave us some notes, and we also [read this “by a runner” review](http://usabilityrocks.tumblr.com/post/159336005445/running-for-real-in-europe-and-asia-with-the-apple) * These are [Buffs](https://www.cotswoldoutdoor.com/brands/buff.html) * The other Nic in Jon’s life just ran the Thames Path Ultra—[learn more about the run, and throw his fundraiser a buck here](https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/nicbitw) * [How Nick wears his Buff](http://www.teenagemutantninjaturtles.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/The-Foot-Clan-movie-TMNT-Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-e13626836141331.jpg) * Find your [craft beer name](https://twitter.com/melindabuttle/status/906665673706762241) * [The Game](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_\(mind_game\)) * The Game the film with Michael Douglas has [turned 20](http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/09/12/fear-itself-david-finchers-the-game-at-20) * [Jon’s pal “invented” the game on the internet](http://aardvarkdj.blogspot.co.uk/2002/08/game-i-lost.html) according to the Wikipedia entry * [Did Rick Parfitt know he was playing the game](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krK7Q49o6uA)? * The [Apple event](https://www.apple.com/uk/apple-events/september-2017/) which announced the new watches and the iPhone X * Jon [doesn’t like the takes](http://thread.fm/e/357ab5b54ca174/) * [#holdconf](https://twitter.com/roundonefight/status/482551999150690305)—where the real work is the conversations in the bar afterwards * [Hello Internet](http://www.hellointernet.fm/podcast/87) * [The Gold Standard](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_standard) which is essential for understanding the plot of [Goldfinger](http://www.vulture.com/2012/11/which-james-bond-villain-plan-would-have-worked.html) * [LTE Apple Watch](https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/20/16334066/apple-watch-series-3-lte-new-features-review-2017) * [At the time of writing, it’s still not clear how podcasts get on the darn thing](https://twitter.com/runnerpod/status/910513073185869824) * [Sexy time activity tracking](http://www.mirror.co.uk/tech/sex-loving-fitbit-owners-admit-7374116) * It turns out that [NHS Direct is actually not a thing any more](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-24651402) and we probably meant [NHS 111](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NHS_111) * [iPhone X and 8](http://www.macworld.co.uk/review/iphone/iphone-8-vs-iphone-x-3664120/) * Franz Ferdinand—one of many bands [which the UK music press were desperate would be a thing](http://www.popmatters.com/post/187039-counterbalance-franz-ferdinand/) * [Acoustic versions of Pinegrove songs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z37NMpqdiu0) feature heavily in Jon’s non-millenial [YouTube habits](https://twitter.com/runnerpod/status/910494652578623488) * [More on Pinegrove](https://pinegrove.bandcamp.com/album/cardinal) * [Being a dickhead is cool](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzocvh60xBU) is great YouTube action * [The FitBit Ionic](https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/8/28/16206914/fitbit-new-fitness-tracking-smartwatch-ionic) * [A side-by-side Apple Watch and Ionic review](http://www.zdnet.com/product/fitbit-ionic/) * [Tag Heur connected range of watches](http://amzn.to/2xgIRZa) * [Apple Watch Hermès](https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/buy-watch/apple-watch-hermes) and [Edition](https://www.apple.com/...