Hey, welcome to Concerning AI. This is Ted. And this is Brandon. This is the show where we have two questions.
Two questions. One, should we be concerned about the existential threat from AI to humanity? Yes. Yes.
Yes. And then what should we do about it? And that one, I'm excited about the show. Yeah.
Maybe there may be, yeah, maybe a little pay dirt here. So last show, I think it was, we got pretty excited about Neuralink before we really knew anything about it. This is Elon Musk's new company. We just heard that it was about the brain and computer interface.
And now we have a lot more information about it. Yeah. Because we've done a lot of in-depth interviews, the key stakeholders. The principles at Neuralink.
Just to be really clear, we haven't done any of that. But we did read Tim Urban's way, but why article? If you haven't, you really need to. Oh man, it's great.
It's like a 384 page PDF when you chunk it down. Is it really? It is big. It's really big.
Yeah. A lot of its images, you know, because Tim likes to draw. Yeah. They're funny.
It's really loud. I've got to tell you. Sometimes it's really good. There's six sections to it.
For those of you that haven't read it, that's six sections. And it goes all the way from like the history of the brain, evolutionarily, all the way through like what is Neuralink up to? And we're not going to go through all the details of it, obviously. We can't cover it in depth.
I thought we could do one page per episode. It covers for a while, right? Yeah. We'll have books and shows for every commute from now until.
Yeah. Now until this singularity. Yeah. Well, so speaking of that, what did you do?
What's your one takeaway? So I get to start. Yeah. My top number one, Primo, biggest takeaway from the Mountedling Garden.
Go take away or what would it make you think about? Or whatever, you know, what's the one topic that you like us to cover? We're likely to have multiple shows on Neuralink, but we just thought we'd jump in, you know, to the highlights. Yeah.
Because that's easier. I think maybe. Yeah. My biggest.
So I don't feel like we've gotten very many strategies for avoiding the AI bad outcome. Yeah. Bad AI. Yeah.
We've got lots of pieces of the puzzle that have sort of been defined, but no good solutions to anyone. Not really. Like the as soon as possible was a surprising one, right? Do it as fast as possible.
That I think is pretty good. Like the hardware overhang, avoid the hardware overhang. But I think this and so then, you know, we've got the like, let's do it in the open and have like lots of them if we can, the diversity kind of thing. But the thing I took away from this is that like maybe our best bet is in trying to stay ahead for as long as we can and get to the spot where, you know, get to a point maybe where we can actually think about it better.
Because the smarter we are, the easier it'll be to solve the AI safety problem, you would have to believe that, right? Right. Like, you know, certain problems are trivial for us, right? But pretty much impossible for other primates, right?
And they're just trivial for us. So maybe this is like that. You know, maybe if we were smarter, we could solve it. So I hadn't thought about it really, like I feel like it's inevitable that the AI, the intelligence that is not tied to a biological substrate is going to outpace and crossover in its development.
The line for that one is going to cross over the line for anything that's tied to a biological substrate. I think that's going to happen. So I like dismissed it out of hand, kind of, you know, like Picha's, I'm making a difference. But I didn't think about the fact that, you know, we can still stay ahead for quite a while and get pretty far already, get a lot smarter than we are before that crossover happens.
Yeah. And that might be a really good thing. Sure. But if we're walking now, then running isn't going to matter with how fast the supersonic train catches up to us, right?
Like that was why we dismissed it out here. Yeah. No, that is true. I agree that that's, you know, that wetware, the biological substrate that includes a human biological brain is not going to be able to keep up for very long.
But it could get like, could it get an order of magnitude smarter than it is right now? Maybe before the court before it got passed. Yeah. And if that's true, then maybe, you know, the battleship, you know, thinking about inertia and momentum, you know, maybe the battleship or the oil tanker or whatever, the big momentum craft can already be pointed in a good direction where, you know, we got to be pets at least.
Yeah. So was there something specific in the article that led you to this new excitement that we might be able to get smarter, fast enough to stay ahead long enough? Or is it just the overall concept? No, it's not so much the concept.
Like ideas are cheap, you know, like ideas are super easy, right? Like there's a bazillion great ideas out there. Execution is really hard. Yeah.
So like this has become a live possibility for me because Elon's involved and there's like billions of dollars of assets, you know, there's there's there's massive, there's massive resources pointed at it. Yeah. So the idea of fresh things, you know, that you need to get critical mass. There are other people that are thinking about maybe working on the idea of going to Mars, but their ideas all seem kitschy.
But you look at Elon's way to get some Mars and then you know, you see action, they're actually landing spaceships and we're using them and they're launching them again and they're landing them. So there's credibility there and Tesla is an actual company with real cars on the road. And yeah, we I think we could have gone another 20 years and still not be where we are now on getting on to Mars without SpaceX. Yeah.
I totally think that's possible. There's a lot of things to spend our best energy towards and you know, without that lens focusing it there, I think it could have been another 20 years at least easily. So that's a big deal, right? So, so same thing with now.
It seems like a big deal. We're not actually going to Mars yet, but his way of talking about it for 20 years closer. We're 20 years closer. We're 20 years closer now than we were five years ago.
Yeah. I think so because if you read any of the NASA documents, it's still way out there in the in the term of future. Yeah. Yeah.
But Elon stuff, I mean, even if he's even if he's wrong about his estimates, his estimates are so optimistic, but yeah, but still they're like, you know, he's he's got a sense of urgency. So when you read in the way, but why article about Neuralink, he's talking about eight to 10 years from now will be using implants in non-disabled folks. He still could be overly optimistic. Yeah, but you think that that's maybe not I mean, who knows?
Who knows? I think there's too many unknowns in this area. There's so much uncertainty that it's just too hard to know. Yeah.
Like, well, in eight years, we'll know a lot better probably, right? But we don't, you know, it's just too uncertain. Yeah. I was really struck by.
Yeah. Okay. So let me, you know, turn it towards you. Well, I'm still thinking about your, you know, your point here of credibility and the possibility that this might be a solution here, the Tim Urban positive factor, let's call it a positive factor rather than a solution.
Okay. Cause I don't, I don't, I don't know that it's possible to have our solution. All right. So I think that we can do to sort of push things in a, in a probably better direction.
Yeah. This feels like a probably good direction. Yeah. And that's, that even that is hard to come up with.
So, yeah, a probably good direction. Awesome. So we spent time in the past talking about exponential curves and we've, you know, been thinking about the idea that in the 60s computers took a whole rooms and, you know, we're super inefficient and didn't do very much for us. And now we all have these amazing computers in our pockets and all that stuff.
But the actual picture in this article of the computer in the 60s compared to the iPhone or the smartphone in general. Had a really big impact on me. The idea that today's neural science or not neuroscience, neural engineering, yeah, boom, it's the engineering, not the science. We don't actually need to solve for how the brain works.
We can engineer the, the interface. Yeah. So that's a nugget that we should either come back to or like draw a big circle around. Yeah.
I think it's a point now. I think it's a point back to it. Let's put it in a parking lot and then you can finish here. Yeah.
You're where you were going with the, we don't have to solve it. Yeah. The, the, the, the exponential. The ability today to scan the brains in any way, you know, whether it's that we're looking just at the electrical pulses or whatever it is that we're looking at today.
There are several different ways and the article goes into more detail about all the different ways that we can get information about what's happening in the brain today. And they're very crude, very, very crude. Very, very crude. But if you take that and you make the analogy, you know, SAT style of 1960s computer is to iPhone as today's very crude ways of looking at the brain is to X that X starts to look really exciting.
Yeah. I don't know if this is, is where we're supposed to go right now on this topic, but it brings up something that was very exciting to me was the idea of sending the like neural array, the neural sensing arrays to where they need to go through the blood vessels. Yeah. And then having them expand and sort of find their way.
Yeah. I had never thought of that. Yeah. You know, I don't know whether you know this or not, but when I went to graduate school, my first year, you know, that was my, I sure I've said it probably 10 times on here.
So I'm sorry to bring it up, but it was a brain. No, I didn't know it. Yeah. And I did an EEG thing in virtual reality.
And it was so disappointed with how it came out that I switched. I mean, Chris, while I was talking for years about the idea that we will have, you know, nanobots connected to the cloud in our brains, like that's the way he's conceived of the future, right? For more than 10 years. He's been thinking about how that's how we would get there.
His conception of it was much more specific than where we are today, where we are today, is that there's a lot of possible ways that this could go. And the article doesn't get into specifics about which way it will go because nobody knows that. Yeah. So here's what I was struck by.
I was here where you were struck by Ted. I was struck by two things. Two things. Okay.
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We're not just talking about neuroscientists. We're not just talking about computer scientists. We're not just talking about surgeons. I don't remember all the different specialties that are my own compatibility specialists, right?
And that's a big deal. That's a big deal. That's a big deal. Like a huge huge important thing.
And none of them have had siloed careers. They all have had multidisciplinary careers. So even though they all have a specialty, they all have history working with other disciplines. And so this by definition is a multidisciplinary effort.
And I thought that was really exciting. I mean, you know, like startup investing and like what startup to join as an employee or any of these sorts of things, you know, bet on the team. Yeah. That's like a cracker tech team.
Absolutely. Start with Elon. Yeah. And then you add these domain experts who have brought over the hall.
So, I think it's really exciting. Totally. Yeah. So here's the other part.
So when I've had my sort of fictional wanderings into the future of being connected to the cloud, I've got to. Now we're on point two. Yeah. I've gone with things that Kurzweil has said like, well, when I see, you know, Elon walking down the hall and I'm walking towards him, well, I'll spin up, you know, a hundred thousand machines connected, you know, in the cloud connected to my brain so that I can say something clever.
So that is really a rudimentary idea. That's one of the things that I took away from this article. He tells the story of, you know, a married couple where one is working and the other is hiking in the forest, you know, maybe a two hour drive away. It doesn't matter where.
Yeah. But the one that's in the forest calls up and not by picking her phone out of her pocket and dialing the number, but by just thinking experience by thinking her in her brain to her spouse, his spouse takes a break from work and he is there is there in his brain seeing through her eyes basically as if his brain was seeing through his own eyes. He's seeing how she's reacting to everything at the same time. So it's not like I was thinking about how you can call your spouse on the phone and you can say some words and that conveys something because you know each other and you have this mystery.
You can also send a picture, you know, you can also send a video and this is like a thousand times more or a million times more. This is like being there. Like he is literally seeing through her eyes and hearing through her ears and then he goes back to work and he takes the experience and he just like puts it down a picture in picture so he can kind of keep track of what he's doing while he's working picture in his brain. So he's still got a little presence of her.
Yeah, like there's a book, you know, like a if you ever smell smoke or hear loud noise when you're doing something, it creates an interrupt, right? Yeah. And lots of attention resources suddenly come to bear on that thing. So picture in a picture, I kind of take that to mean you've got some background process that's kind of experiencing it.
And when something comes along that you that's worthy of like more attention resources, beautiful bird flies, flies across her path or a sudden change in emotional state. Yeah. Like, you know, you keep talking about the like the external world, seeing the external world there. Yeah.
And you know, I feel like the intimacy of like actually experiencing the mental state. Well, that goes to the how low bandwidth words are, you know, the development of language. So the article goes in depth to the development of language and how big a deal that was for the development of the brain and then for development of intelligence. And this is an evolutionary leap.
The idea that when I say to you, I'm really sad, you know, it means something different when I say I'm really sad, you know, because my father owns cancer and I'm really sad because you know, I have a headache or I'm really sad because I still have my toe. I think they're all different, but you don't really know what any of those mean to me. Really? Right.
Right. But with the wizard hat idea, the neural like idea, you could, you could know what those are for me. What could it mean? Like like meditative states, you know, there are these like sort of transcendent peak experiences and then there are, I think are, are like levels of experience you can get to almost where you're just peaceful, the head at ease.
You know, what could that do for the world to be able to replay that from somebody who is who is all world at it? Yeah. And actually experience that freedom from attachment on the balance, right? That break through that connection, the connection of all things, you know?
Yeah. Yeah. What could that do? It's amazing.
And that's, and that's not even like the, the, the union of the experiences. That's just experiencing what another person has to offer or experiencing what, yeah, experiencing what somebody else has to offer is really amazing. It's even a smaller version of that would be going back to a particularly unique experience that you had at one point and we created them having it again. And not just remembering it, but having it again.
And what could this do for empathy? Like you think about like, have you seen that? I've seen some videos, I just sort of skipped over them a little bit, but the videos of, of, they have people look at each other's eyes for like three minutes or five minutes or something like that. You know, they'll bring like an Israeli and a Palestinian and a, you know, and just the, the amazing connection that creates, what would that, what would it do to actually be that person?
Yeah. Briefly. Yeah. You know, walk a mile in my shoes.
Whoa. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this seems like such a, we, we have tried so hard and had so little success in kind of fundamentally altering our, like our impulses and what controls what we do.
And we're still the primates that are, you know, barely one step removed from dry hump in the leg of the first person to walk by, right? Yeah. Yeah. Totally.
And so that, that breakthrough possibility of, you know, understanding and this is not where I thought we were going to go with this at all. Yeah. I had no idea where we were going with the other. It makes me, now I had even thought of this before, but what about, you know, people on other two sides of the aisle in Congress or whatever.
Totally. Leaders. Exactly. You know, world, world leaders from different countries being able to really fundamentally get in your bones in your being in every ounce of yourself to get what the cultural difference means from the other side and what, you know, what is super important values wise for that leader that seems so hard to reach and so hard to understand.
Yeah. And so, to really bridge those gaps. Yeah. I mean, you hear people talk about, about how much similarity there is and how much, you know, how much truth there is, even if there's parts of it that are skewed and we just latch onto only those parts because it helps us to be able to be skewed in the way that we like to be skewed.
Right. But how, you know, what would it be like if you, if you actually viscerally felt that? Yeah. Could you feel the 99% overlap and the 1% dissonance then becomes less important?
Yeah. Who knows? Maybe it'll be just intolerable though too. Maybe.
Well, I mean, who knows? Who knows? I mean, it would be, I mean, I'd like to see Kumbaya, let's see Kumbaya instead of like going to the, to the alertic reaction sort of possibility there. Yeah.
I can really thought about that, the possibility for just mind blowing empathy. Yeah. But empathy is transformative. It is totally transformative.
It's funny that we go into this place that's thinking about empathy. You know, the article talks about like architects being able to have an amazing collaborative space in their various brains, including the cloud in order to not have to commit the ideas to just paper in order to convey them, but to just be able to collaborate wordlessly and build the model in their brain. And that's pretty darn cool. But that's not anywhere near the level of potential transformation from this difference in empathy and being able to really understand one another.
Yeah. You know, they talk about philosophy on a deadline. Yeah. This isn't really doing philosophy, but I think it's achieving some of the goals of, you know, the stated goals that we come up with these philosophies that don't actually change how people live, right?
Like, I don't care about philosophy on a deadline. I care about actually changing how people interact with each other. Right. And the way to do that is through these transformative experiences, I think, maybe.
Yeah. That's exciting, right? Okay. So here's the other thing.
I might as jump into now. Uh-huh. There were examples in the article about, you know, spouses being able to communicate in a different way or work groups, you know, four or five people in a room. And then of course they don't have to be in a room.
They could be anywhere in the world. Well, what if we talk about massive numbers of people connected? That wasn't discussed in the article at all. So I have no idea what this would even mean.
But what if a hundred people from a hundred different countries come together and you're massively parallel or a thousand people or a million people, what are the limits and what, you know, maybe this isn't something you do at the beginning of having a magic hat, a wizard hat. But think about the transcendence that, think about the emotion that people feel just by watching, you know, the opening ceremonies, the Olympic games where you're breaking down barriers and it's so low band within, it's so low fidelity and it's ridiculous, but it gets emotional for people. Yeah, totally. And to be able to really experience what it's like to be a different culture or to have totally different life.
I mean, we already do have that. Everybody is sharing one brain thing. And that's the Colossus he's talking about, right? Yeah.
Like it operates slower than a human brain operates because it's distributed. And yeah, I also feel like I am not so sure that any one of us really has any idea what's going on with the Colossus. I mean, there is a zeitgeist, I think is what you're pointing to. But what I'm trying to get to is that with that like huge collection of brains down together, I don't think it would be the same thing.
Yeah. Like, so the Colossus is having ideas and thinking things and stuff that are much at a much faster, higher quality way than it does right now. Right. But that doesn't necessarily mean that we'll have any more individual access to what that larger meta being is thinking.
True. True. Maybe though, I mean, it's possible that, yeah, I don't know. I wonder if there's a way that the Colossus could be the singleton.
That could be cool. That could be really cool. Yeah. I mean, you think about, I love to say this.
I say, you know, you know, yourselves and your body, they don't know who you are. Right. They don't care about you. Right.
But hey, you're still here. And it's because of that, right? Right. And so, you know, I guess what we're talking about is a more tightly organized body of life on earth.
All right. So all of this that we're saying right now is really exciting and compelling as a possible way forward. But none of it touches on the practicality of any of this. I mean, other than we talked about the exponential and yes, that's the biggest knit with it is probably is it seems so hard.
Yeah. Yeah. And because it's Elon and because he's assembled this amazing team and and there are a lot of threads coming together that the Colossus is put next to each other, right? That creates this potential.
Yeah. But there isn't yet that the exponential for this is not, it's not the right sort of exponential yet. It's too slow. When we tell the story of SpaceX and going to Mars, there's not that much hand waving in that story.
It's a pretty practical story. Yeah. There's way less uncertainty in that story. There's very little uncertainty actually in that story.
I mean, I mean, there was probably more uncertainty when Kennedy said we're going to the moon. There was more uncertainty then than there is now of Elon saying we're going to Mars. Right. And his innovation in that space, like other people could have done it, NASA maybe could have done it or whatever.
Like it could have been done by some of us. It's not a fundamental breakthrough. It's so much as it's a breakthrough in execution. So there you go back to engineering, the engineering of landing the rocket in the ocean or the platform and then being able to relaunch it.
It feels like there are fundamental breakthroughs needed here still on the wizard hat for your brain. Totally. So it does feel different than his other endeavors. I mean, even Tesla feels again like an execution win.
Right. A lot more than a fundamental breakthrough. It's kind of like an iterative innovation versus disruptive innovation. Like it takes the battery and makes it better.
It takes the battery that we're making and it makes more of them. Right. Dramatically better. You know, 100x better or 1000x better, which is which is dramatic, but it's not fundamental.
I think that's yeah, it's not like a whole new battery. It's not like a whole new technology that, you know, people talk about, well, we can't really do better than the energy density we're getting with this right now. We're going to need some fundamental breakthrough notes. It's the same technology just better.
Yeah. So I just, I want to acknowledge that we are still, there's a lot of unknowns that are not yet explained in Neuralink and it's not because they chose not to explain them. It's because they are fundamental breakthroughs needed. They don't know.
Just, I mean, maybe in some way, similar to there are fundamental breakthroughs needed to create superhema, no, no question. Yeah. So is this easier than that or harder than that? It seems as hard as that.
Yeah. But if Elon put together a team of AI experts that with cross discipline and all his resources behind this stuff too, that would be a significant force in bringing around super intelligence faster too. Right. So I think that is the thing that, like that is what has me sort of questioning, you know, what I should be doing in my life a little bit is he's looked at it and he said, all right, the place to push right now that I'm going to really push my best energy towards and put my most precious resources towards is this one.
Right. Because it seems like it has the best outcomes for humanity down this route. All right. Can we bring in my huge Elon disappointment this week?
I sure. I don't know what it is, but yeah, what happened? He has this other company called the Boring Company. You heard of this?
No. It's come out in the last few months. I only found out about it this week. So I missed the earlier announcements.
Boring, meaning tunneling, not just not exciting. He put out this hype video of a Tesla on the street of Los Angeles pulling into a parking space that then is an elevator that goes down and then in there's a very it basically sits on a platform that's pulled along a track on like a super highway at 125 miles an hour through the city of Los Angeles to take what would be an hour long slog across LA traffic into a 10 minute quick journey under the city. Okay. And I just think this is the dumbest thing in the world.
I just think this is absolutely ridiculous that he's put any of his energy into it. The article I read said he's putting maybe three or four percent of his time into this venture. This is like the Hyperloop's latest incarnation. It's separate from the Hyperloop, but it's literally transporting cars on platforms.
It just seems it seems absolutely ludicrous to me. And it worries me about Elon. It worries me slightly. It puts a little chink in the Elon armor.
And my Elon fanboyness gets worried that this is the kind of stupid idea or the idea that would be interesting in a science fiction novel as long as we're not actually trying to build it. And he in the article, they talked about how it seems pretty unimportant to me. That's what I mean. That's what I mean.
Why would he put any resources into it? Three to four percent of his recent his time feels really expensive to me. It does. He talks about how there's the current tunneling technology is he has a snail that's 14 times faster.
And so if we can speed up the tunneling technology by 10 extra hundred X, that would make a huge difference. If the tunneling drill thing was the same as the machine that's doing the shoring up and we can tunnel much faster and because you can go way, way down and if you go a certain distance down, the people on the surface don't even feel it. It's basically free. It's not free.
It's like billions of dollars. But it's like, it just seems so ludicrous to me as an engineering feat. What a waste of time. Yeah.
Does it have implications for settling Mars in the moon and stuff or like to tunneling is seems like an important thing for those potentially. Yeah. Maybe on Mars, you need tunneling as radiation shield, but does it actually make a difference if it's 10 times faster? We're not talking about sending billions of people to Mars right away.
I don't know. I mentioned about any cost over any other things. The fact that you're going to spend so much money developing you know, cars to drive themselves and then you're going to drag them along a track, it's like, it just seems so ridiculous to me. Yeah.
No, that is kind of disappointing just because it just doesn't seem very important. Yeah. Yeah. The idea of hyperloop, it was like he had this idea and he took it far enough along to write a paper about it and then just released it.
The world let other people deal with it. That seems fine. You know, he's bound to have other ideas in different areas. But this seems like it's a company that he's actually involved in.
That's like a slight bit. So anyway, I don't want to burst our bubble. You know and any of the other things that we're talking about with Elon But it came up this week in the same you know the same week that I was reading the way but why article about Nurlink And I thought it beard mentioning at least the boring company the boring company. Yeah I'm gonna have to simulate that a little bit.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean I do feel like kind of a fanboy and I embarrasses me a little bit because You know, I don't know. It's just a dude and he's kind of just a dude. Yeah, but I mean I think we I think we have feelings about All of these kind of people right whether it's my feelings a decade ago about Kurzweil or whether it's how we look at Boston or your koski or I mean who knows right whether it's Bezos or Gates or jobs or we do we we we have feelings about these guys now Elon It's different right he's on feels special because he's had so many different successes in Tricky environment.
Yeah, that's why he feels special to me, but you know that there's bound to be I guess it it bears I mean like if you take all the investors in the market, you know, there's gonna be some that are amazingly good Just a string of fantastic investments. There has to be probabilistically speaking well, Buffett is a special case, right? So he's he's slightly better than chance statistically speaking probably like the people you know him maybe is maybe he's maybe he's he's outside the but even I think there are few people Buffett might be one of them that kind of Look statistically significant as if they might be better than Just randomly drawn from the distribution right the normal distribution But I mean the point is that I'm trying to get to is there got to be entrepreneurs who can string together a few successes Who are really no better than that sort of mean person right drawn mean solid entrepreneur drawn from that stuff So is Elon one of those or is he actually special? Well, I don't think we would have been talking about him as special if it was PayPal and then another company on the magnitude of pay Pal or even if it was a PayPal and then in Amazon and then a Google even I don't see those companies as Fundamentally changing the world in the same way that he's playing this game today I mean not to take away from what PayPal is accomplishing what Amazon is accomplishing what Google has accomplished those are all been transformative in different ways, but I don't know there's something qualitatively different about The way he talks and like vision.
I guess is the thing that is so it's different starts with why Steve Jobs put a dent in the universe It's like small potatoes compared to the games Elon's playing put in dent in the universe What do you that's what people say about what Apple was trying to do under Steve Jobs? Like all of the products that Steve Jobs came out with that was the that was the why that was the purpose What a dent in the universe? I don't even know what that means, but it's it's always seem to mean something when you don't really examine what it means It's like to create products that really stand apart You know their attention to detail and everything else, but you know you can't examine it too far to know You know like so but this gets back to another thing in the article that Tim I thought did a great job unpacking which is the like how Elon chooses where to invest Himself yeah the business model idea and we're not just talking about business model like like a business world talking about Fundamental improvement for humanity as the output. Yeah, so why don't you say something really clever here?
And we pull this I feel like we've been going for a long time and we pull it to an end and maybe do another one Oh, I got something really clever if you like to show you should put some stars in our bucket at iTunes. Oh That's so clever. I heard somebody else say it actually I didn't make it myself. That's great Yeah, stars in our bucket on iTunes.
Yeah, I'm gonna go. Yeah, I'll see if we yeah I wonder if anybody's ever given us any stars. I do too. Yeah, it would be cool.
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