Hey, I'm Matt and this is no dumb questions and today we're gonna do something fun and different from anything else that we've done in any of our previous episodes We're calling this a grabler episode Destin Dustin Sandlin would you like to explain how we arrived at that horrible name? I would love to so we thought about calling it like a grab bag episode because the basic premises We like to go really deep into a topic and just explore everything we possibly can about that even if it takes an hour and a half However, there are these other topics that we also want to talk about that we might not have that much content about But we still talk about so this is kind of like a grab bag where we each pick some topics and throw them in a bag pulling out of the hat However, you have a fictional character called the grabbler that you use to terrorize your children in I sure do and I'm not about to apologize for that For whatever reason one time we were staying out at camp with the whole family And I sneaked up the stairs in this rickety old cottage making like creepy camp murderer sounds and my children were delighted by that Your kids may be different my kids like to be horrified But this character's name is the grabbler the character's name is the grabbler I regret that but at this point it's locked in and the kids beg to be grappled every night Which amounts to me creepily sneaking into their room and tickling them until they cry and beg me to stop So we do something similar I tickled the kids and they each have a series of code words that they have to say in the correct order In order for me to stop tickling and so like for instance one of the child's code words are uncle mercy caffro I think that activates the winter soldier. No, but they have to say there are three words in the correct order that particular day in order For me to stop and obviously it's the last permutation of the words Obviously one of my children has a hard time with the letter L saying the letter L or the letter R And so naturally his words are lollipop wet willy rainbows And so cruel he has to get it right in order for me to stop and it's my way of you know Helping them practice those letters and at the same time, you know getting to have some daddy tickle time You know it's fun stuff. You're helping me safe face by acknowledging you torture your children too We have universal safe words in our family anytime the tickling or anything is getting to be too much And the same word we all use is no matter how much I scream keep doing that don't stop You have to say exactly that and then I know oh wait a minute That's the safe word and then I stop tickling are you being serious right now?
That would be the worst safe word ever So we've agreed to the following we each are going to pick three topics and for each of us two of those topics are going to be Whatever we find interesting from the world or the internet or science or history or whatever Then the third one is going to specifically be drawn from a listener question and we'll engage with that So six total we'll take a little chunk of time on each and see where we get sweet Let's do it. Who's up first you introduce the episode. I think you get to go first I'm gonna talk about something called dazzle camouflage. Have you have you heard about dazzle camouflage?
I know nothing about dazzle camouflage, but it sounds fabulous. Oh, it's fantastic I'm gonna need you to get a Wikipedia right now and just look up dazzle camouflage. This is Fascinating so one of my secret loves is researching naval weaponry technology in sixth grade. Nope fourth grade I wrote a report It was one of the very fresh reports I've wrote about the advancements of naval technology during the Civil War and how the artificial pressure of survival due to war Created these huge leaps in technology.
Well one of the things that fell out of all this you know research in World War one Is this concept called dazzle camouflage now if you were let's say a German you boat periscope person the way you would figure out How far away the enemy was or the merchant ship you were trying to sink is is with depth perception? Okay, sure so if you think if you think about your vision and how it works Why do you think you have two eyes that assume is just to be symmetrical and handsome so I can seduce a mate No, think about it. How does that perception work? Well, I'm guessing you're gonna tell me it's with two eyes I suppose depth perception is different as I sit here and cover one, but I don't get it Okay, so think about this if you have something that's really close to you like your thumb If you put your thumb like two feet in front of your face and you do the blinky thing where you blink back and forth You'll see that it's at different places in your vision And if you hold your thumb at arms length it changes So your brain is constantly doing trigonometry to figure out how far away something is if you can draw a triangle between your eyes and the object And then your brain is measuring that angle you can get depth Well back during the battleship days, which I'm hoping you can bring up some battleship stuff here in a second The cool thing about the way they did it is they made two artificial eyes They would put two vision systems really far away and one of them would see the top of the boat and the other one would see the bottom of the Boat and then they would crank this little wheel and line up those two images for the top and the bottom of the boat And at that point where they lined up you could just read a number off of it And you could tell how far away the boat was really that makes it yeah It's awesome because it's neat crossover between history and physics and optics and math.
It's really really neat Does that make sense? Yeah, it's called a naval rangefinder Do you know how long that's been in use? I know they used it during World War one But I don't know if it goes beyond that because you know artillery back in the day you had to try to find distances before lasers And I don't know how they did that well I think part of the way you found distances was keep shooting In the old school naval combat I'm not sure there was a good way to estimate that other than you just had somebody smart who shot a lot and you made slight tweaks Yeah, it's really interesting But this you know if you're making camouflage for a boat Let's say you're in you know 1910 and you have a big boat that you want to hide what color do you paint it if you're on the open sea? Oh blue.
Yeah, I don't know like it seems like blue But the problem is how do you hide a boat because everything is flat and that thing's gonna stick up and be really obvious right the silhouette of a human is The most obvious noticeable thing is a lot of camouflage like a ghillie suit That's what it's called right for the snipers where that's meant to just disrupt the lines of a person as much as anything Isn't it it is you can't really disrupt lines with paint in the middle of an ocean those lines are gonna be evident Well, so this is the trick that dazzle camouflage would use so not only do you have to determine how far away something is using that Trig with you know these things called coincidence rangefinders But you also had to estimate the direction that it was traveling and the speed that it was traveling So the cool thing about dazzle camouflage is it was so weird had it basically makes the ship look like a zebra But the zebra is like tripping acid So you can't tell which direction the stripes are laying and all that good stuff So your coincidence rangefinders don't work very well because it's hard for you to line up these lines and you know Conversely, you can't figure out which way the boat is pointing especially if he's using like naval tactics like tacking back and forth on this way Does that make sense? Well, I'm looking at a picture of it here on the Wikipedia's and The angles of the black and white stripes they run opposite of what would be intuitive in terms of making it look sleek and cool Right, I don't know how to describe it But it messes with my eyes just looking at it because it seems backwards exactly So you can't tell because the dazzle camouflage you can't tell where like the bowled the boat is right because there's multiple, you know, high contrast lines Anyway, that's what I wanted to bring up was dazzle camouflage The interesting thing about it is when they first started doing it They didn't really know why it worked but they were pretty sure it did and they said forget it paint all the boats this way And so the cool thing about it is they got artists involved in the war effort They got like designers and architects to actually use their art, you know abilities to make crazy looking geometric patterns and shapes And you say this is something that the UK did first? Yeah, they started it and then the US jumped on board quickly thereafter The UK has been pretty good and innovative at Navy even before they were called the UK. Yeah, yeah, that's just a reputation I mean was it 1588?
I'm pretty sure that's right 1588 when they defeated the Spanish Armada Yeah, was it Horatio Nelson that did that? No Horatio Nelson was later at I want to say the Battle of Trafalgar Oh, yeah, if I was British I would be embarrassing myself right now because that's the kind of thing that we know like George Washington But yeah, I think that's later I think they won because the Spanish aliens were just big fat wide open targets And I think the English had boats that were more like what the privateers used the little stuff I could be completely wrong on all of this But that's what I seem to remember. I also have the internet in front of me so I could just look that up. It's not as fun That's not how that works.
Okay. Yeah, no So the cool thing about the coincidence rangefinder is that it basically takes the human eyes and spreads them apart So you get superhuman debt perception and not only that it gives you an ability to quantify your debt perception. So it's really cool Okay, any advancement like this though. There's a reason boats are painted this way anymore.
What did we figure out to get around it? I'm assuming it's radar Radar solved a lot of problems, but there's I mean it's embarrassing that I don't know this off the top of my head But there's technology that disrupts radar too, right? Yeah, you can do several things you can make decoys, which is probably one of the more effective things You know chaff basically it just makes a cloud that your radar can't see through or similar things to that And then you know there's stealth technology, but it only works in certain frequencies of radar You know how they used to do it I mean no how they used to fight it see you before they came up with guns No, it's pretty cool way back in the day in classical warfare They would have naval battles if you think about it. You can't shoot anything So how do you do it?
Well the way it worked and maybe the most famous example of this is the Battle of Salamis, which is what followed the whole 300 story with Sparta and the Xerxes and the Persians okay Well that whole campaign by the Persians in the 400 BC got settled at a naval battle outside of Athens And the way they fought was they they had boats that had you know We're pretty flat and they had battering ramps on the front and you would try to out position your opponents through coordinated rowing to Just go straight to the middle of the other boat. You just ram them if you get hit in the side Yeah, you're getting wrecked But if you hit them in the side your boat can handle it so the whole ramming speed thing is you know probably derivative of that And so yeah The guy who led that battle his name was themostically is is you know credited with out maneuvering the Persians and poor Xerxes Had to according to legend sit on the hill and watch his giant fleet get defeated at sea because I got lured into a naval battle They couldn't they couldn't handle was he against the what was the other tap in this name testicles? Yes Anything else you want to say about dental camouflage in your last four seconds? It's cool and I like it I Want to say a couple things about audible before we do the ad and I also want to make it clear every time we do an ad We are legitimately trying to get you to support the sponsor And so this is kind of separate from the rest of the show which we're just telling you thoughts and feelings But we are trying to get you to support the sponsor here But I want to explain smarter every day's relationship with audible.
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Yes, okay So just a little teaser and I'm just gonna give the same teaser that I gave to you and then you can pile on if you like is that cool? Yep, okay, so ready player one It's the not too distant dystopian future where a man who's a Quazillionaire dies and it's the guy that created the oasis which is a It's a virtual world that people go to to escape reality that eventually sucks in everyone everyone It's like the internet only it's you know your avatar becomes more you than you are in the physical world almost It's amazing anyway So he dies and the premise is he leaves his money and anybody who can solve the the challenges that he set up that are based on Video games from the 80s can get his money and I'm scared to say too much more because I don't want to give anything away Would you like to add anything? Yeah, I think I can do it without ruining it. It's narrated by Wil Wheaton So if your nerd factor is anything above a two or three that's just gonna make it better for you It helps you just fully lean into the fact that this is full on nerd culture the 80s references Just keep coming to music and video games and culture from when I was a little boy It bleeds well over into the 90s So if you're touchy younger than me you'll still get a ton out of it And if you are very young and just getting into books You're still gonna like this thing because you will learn about the things that your parents did for fun when they were kids And you'll be able to mess with their brains as you throw out these references You're gonna pick up what I love about the book the most though was it's inventive I have been dying for original storytelling movies or just killing me these days the same lane plot again and again the same Typical characters.
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Dustin have you seen Logan? Yeah, I have are you a superhero movie guy? Actually, yes, when my wife's in labor, you know, I say it like it happens every week But every time she's been in labor, we always take a superhero movie with us to the hospital and watch it together How did that tradition evolve? We watched Iron Man when we the first one was 36 hours of labor.
We had time who yeah for a few viewing viewings and the outtakes Do you like superhero movies? I mean are they fun for you or they get kind of played out in old? Yeah, I like them. I like I like fantasy and make believe and fiction.
Yeah, I enjoy it It's good storytelling. Okay, before I go any further with this Logan discussion I think we need to give the spoiler warning. So if you want to skip the next ten minutes and tell you watch it You know how to do that spoilers ahead Okay, so Logan to me was a pretty important movie I think it was a big deal I think there's a reason that it got the great reviews that it got I am getting kind of tired of superhero movies I just feel like they do the same thing again again Oh look somebody got their powers then they got revenge on a bully who was mean to them and underestimated them and they got the girl And also there was a blue laser They got shot into the sky but they had to fight the source of it and they were very courageous because of their powers I mean their courage and everything's fine And then you get you know post credit scene and it all has to fit into some bigger universe And in my opinion the X-Men universe is terrible the last one X-Men apocalypse. Did you see it?
No? I did not but why is it because they messed with the timeline and I think when you do time travel stuff you take away all the Tension as well just travel back in time and just do it again And they were clever like in days of future past the way they tried to make it a thing where you could only go back once But for me once you start messing with timeline and stuff you got eight different versions of the same character And that's not as it's not as fun. My eyes are darting around the room. I'm so uncomfortable right now with your level of superhero knowledge Like for me superheroes like the X-Men and then there's Marvel which is like Batman and Superman right now I got it backwards the X-Men and the Avengers are both Marvel They're just different teams within the Marvel universe and so are the defenders from Netflix like Daredevil and all of that The other ones are DC.
Yeah DC is Superman Batman Aquaman I think my brother just screamed at the podcast if he's listening because his name is literally Cape and he spent the first 20 years of his life Wearing literally a Cape well if you've been a man before he is now That's out it So what I like about Logan is that instead of giving us a superhero in their prime and trying to artificially create jeopardy for them If we sense that this guy is just beat up and broken down and his character is broken down and he's old and he's probably gonna die soon And he's sad and he's not likable what I really liked about it is Professor Xavier kept having those seizures and he couldn't control it like the concept of not being able to control your superpowers and being Basically having something wrong with you and you're not in control of your body Oh, by the way your body can do amazing things that can really harm people I thought that was a really neat plot twist. I thought so too and I thought the contrast of that where Logan couldn't even make all the claws come out quite right So hang on a second. I'm gonna murder you with this, but I gotta come pull this out. There we go.
All right Let's do this thing thought it was an interesting contrast between how the difference in their powers Patrick Stewart Thank you professor X is so ethereal He represents the big picture and Logan represents the really gritty get in the mud little picture blue-collar normal guy kind of character You know one thing that really did not like about the movie like at all Hmm was that family that had the horses the African American family? Oh, yeah Well, why did they have to introduce their characters and then kill them all I did not like that at all because they were cool people Well, I think it comes back to what you were just talking about what it's that to have that much power and to allow your character to fall apart He's really problematic. You know Logan is still sort of torn between being a wreck and being a good guy But he's figured out there's not a lot of benefit to being a good guy here I have jumped into so many fights and so many bad things have happened to people I care about that I'm just gonna drink the pain away and hide in the middle of the desert somewhere and I die that seems to be his game plan So he didn't want to go hang out with that family But then you get you know the seminal line of the movie which is where Logan barks out You know somebody will come along because he sees them in trouble and professor excess Logan somebody has come along And I thought that in the trailer that has that hurt by Johnny Cash. I teared up in a trailer man Yeah, I don't get it.
What I don't understand why this is so moving to you seriously Yeah, I don't get that because I'm not doing everything about our impulse is is just to take care of self and And tune it out and especially like if you had that kind of power I think you would respond more like Logan. I think you would check out from the world a little bit You can't be hurt. You can't be killed. You know, you've lived five lifetimes I think you just get numb to the whole thing like, you know, dr.
Manhattan in the watchmen did He's a check out But instead these superheroes are all portrayed as just being super engaged and normal with people and down to earth They wouldn't be down to earth They'd figure out that the stakes of what they do are a risk to people and that people come and go and that they don't because they're different So I get Logan's motivation to say it forget this. I'm just I'm just moving on But you know professor X is still trying to do this this grace thing this he has this Audible but almost naive idea that he can that he can still do something to patch up this broken messed up world And it was those two ideas are at conflict within me at times this youthful optimistic and let's try to make things better Let's just try to help people people like me people not like me Let's see what we can do and then also this throw my hands up and discuss man things are a mess Mentality and so for me, I think it was emotional to see those two parts of myself being articulated by those two characters on screen There's also a lot of loyalty stuff in there as well Like they but once they did make the decision to attach to someone and try to help them or whatever Like Francis Logan drug professor X around everywhere and try to do everything for him because he was in it for the long haul Even if it was hard and you know didn't benefit and all that stuff. I thought that was pretty cool too And what about all the face stabbing? Yeah, let's talk about the face stabbing There was a lot of face skull stabbing in that movie Okay, but you gotta admit if you've watched the other X-Men movies this dude has Unbreakable metal claws any stabs people and the people are like ow And then they kind of slouch over because now they're dead How can they not be blood on those claws?
I thought I felt like this was a much more accurate to pick of how razor sharp adamantium would affect human flesh I gotta tip my hat to that and what about the little girl, dude? She had him in her feet Yeah, that made for some cool ways to draw blood out of bad guys. Yeah, it was pretty legit I mean, I don't know how that was cool Well, the major plot hole for me was like hey if we make it to the Canadian border We're safe because I mean like people that are going all over the country to kill you It's not like they're gonna get to the imaginary geopolitical border of Canada and be like oh, it's Canada better not cross this line First you I thought it was just like time. Well, I mean that that that's what happens and I agree That was one of the real weaknesses of the show.
That's what happens when you are more worried about trying to shoehorn in a popular Agenda then just telling a story that makes sense with character motivations that makes sense I mean enormously sympathetic to the conversation about borders and immigration and refugees right now Oh, that's that's what they were trying to do Like it used to be that the mutants were a metaphor maybe for persecuted gays in society And now you know this movie the mutants are more of a metaphor for Persecuted refugees in society, which can be a useful vehicle for exploring that. I just didn't feel like it was very effective in Logan Yeah, the writing wasn't done very well. I don't think at the end there I mean it was pretty good everywhere else I just hate that they killed that family and I don't forgive the writers for that I can work with you on that. That was dark.
It was hard to watch I think the rated R superhero movie might be here to stay though Deadpool was a huge success and really good and really funny. This was a huge success I hope we can still get cupcake superhero movies that are fun and bloodless But I'm okay with doing one or two with easier also if you're lucky your rainbow bright movie might still come out, Matt I hope it gets an R rating man a real hard R I'm gonna really shift gears here So we've got a few pastors at my church And there's this one pastor that doesn't really ever get up and give a sermon or anything because he works with people in this Ministry called celebrate recovery. I'm proud of it. Yeah, so I do have people that are addicts and stuff like that his wife has had cancer for many many years and she had a double mastectomy and came back with colon cancer and all kinds of different things and She died about seven or eight weeks ago And pastor Steve who you know, mmm cool dude.
Yeah, it really really smart guy very modest very impressive So I got a church today and I'm gonna talk about church in this segment feel free to skip over this if you don't want to hear about that Kind of stuff but he gets up at the front this morning He goes hey, you know, you may or may not know this pastor's wife died And um, he's here to talk about something really really near and dear to him and uh here have the stage And he proceeded to deliver one of the most incredible messages I've ever heard in a church And the reason is because it was so flippin real and it was about depression and despair And he was 100 real about his own depression And what it's like to go through that process and what he's actually feeling emotionally at this very moment And I wanted to ask you as part of my my grabular section here You're a pastor And it's been my perception as I've gone to different, you know, churches over the years or you know, just watched people on tv You know, not necessarily even in christianity and other things that sometimes pastors put on this air of confidence And they have this perception or they want you to have this perception that they've got it all together Does that make sense? Yes, it does and to see somebody get up there and Matt he read from his journal. He said hey, I just want you to understand what I'm feeling right now And uh, I guess kind of the only way I can do that is just kind of read this journal entry to you from two weeks ago And he read about what it felt like to be on a life raft in the middle of the ocean Slowly watching land drift away being all alone and paddling as hard as you can towards the shore But the current keeps dragging you out further and you don't know if you'll ever see land again It was incredible And so it was the most refreshing thing i've ever seen because it's like hey, we're not gonna pretend that we're all happy clappy We're just gonna be straight up real people right now and this is where i'm at and i'm really hurting and i just want you know that And i want you to know it's okay And these are the steps that you go through when you're in a situation like this and he brought it all around and he talked about God's role in that kind of situation and what that's like but as a pastor I just want to see what your response is to that my response to that is that when I watched my dad who is a pastor Walk through a similar grief over the loss of my brother when he was a kid is When the rubber met the road for me in terms of faith and I watched dad. I think if i'm to be honest I watched him do both things.
I think there were times where you gotta remember that it's just the guy's job It's what he studies. It's what he does every times where he just needed to talk about the bible and counsel people and do the thing And there were other times where he needed to do what your pastor did today Which is just be truthful about loss and suffering and hurt And the fact that this is part of the equation and I grew up during the era of Protestant Christianity where the movement was trying to figure out how to make uh popular art and music and movies and it was a Little clumsy but one of the things that I feel like we got wrong in that era Was that we tried to make it always really just peppy and happy and like hey Yeah, this is a thing that'll help you like you know solve problems. It's kind of like you know life tips and stuff Yeah, it's almost like the gummy berry juice like hey church in christianity is gummy berry juice Take this and you'll be happy. You know what i'm talking about On side venture with it's beyond compare.
I mean it's next to the grabler. I can do whatever I want I was talking about this in church today. I got a really up close look at what it's like for a pastor to grieve tragedy And you gotta understand I don't think i've ever met a person of faith more sincere than my dad There's no game here. This isn't something he was raised with it's something that he picked It's something that he's thought through as a genius of a man something that he can defend and articulate It's produced good things in his life and yeah, there's just no getting around it man tragedy happens and people die So I guess you can do one of two things with it as a religious person or even as a religious leader And that is you can gloss over it and try and keep the sheen on things Because deep down maybe you think that acknowledging that god is real and yet bad things happen is somehow bad for your case Or you can tell the truth and acknowledge that suffering and the hard stuff of life Is part of the equation whether you know what to do with it or not and does anybody know what to do with it?
It's supposed to be hard. Yeah, I thought it was interesting that once you really take a hard look at it Jesus never promised anybody would be happy. No come follow me and be happy Have your best life now. No, I think specifically he said come follow me and be homeless Yeah, oh have you seen that Luther and satire where they uh where they take paintings of martyrs and have them read jolosene tweets about like God wants to bless you in every way and it's like p.
Yes. I have seen those I've seen those I've seen those and it's living in satars pretty good. I like it a lot last week We talked about jobe here and that yeah, I like that book a lot more now than I did the week before because I spent a bunch of time with it Last week and that's a pretty dang honest 40 chapters of a guy wrestling with total tragedy And then at the end he has this encounter with god and it's it's kind of jarring But you know whether it's a parable or whatever the character of god shows up and it's more or less just like uh it's hard and i'm god and suffering as part of the deal and Yeah, I really like joe when we were in school. We read a version of it called jb I really like the three characters that show up elfaz so far and build ad and then who was the uh the fourth one Eloh, eloh, yeah, and he's kind of the one that just rolls up and just like starts dropping the knowledge, right?
Yeah, he he's the young guy who's been listening to the whole conversation and he comes in and says look I I'd respect let you guys talk but you're being insane because their advice to joe is terrible Yeah, exactly. That's what I like about it. It's like you get these people that start talking about all these things Well, according to our religious traditions, this is blah blah blah and then he's like what? Yeah, and so it has the yeah, it has the same feel of uh the Lutheran satire jollisting tweet reading thing I kind of enjoy it What I love about those three is that I've heard all of them and I've been all of them And the thing is it's easy to be those guys and they all give bad advice from different perspectives to explain joe's suffering Well, you know, you probably did something wrong and this is like karma or you know They've all got their different angles be it philosophical or religious But you know what as easy as it is to sit here and say those guys are idiots when you are at a funeral home And there's somebody there who is confused and suffering and they're looking at somebody they love in a casket You're scrambling for things to say that aren't stupid and it's really easy to say stupid stuff in that situation So I feel a little sympathy for them.
Oh, yeah, you have no idea what to say So sometimes you just say nothing at all and like avoid the person and try to pretend like they're not there and in the past or said that Um, he said, you know in the situation you guys have been really good and you've been there and then Steve said, you know one thing about this is a lot of times you don't know what to say and so you avoid people like this And that's why he had him come speak today. It was incredible Um, when the last few seconds here on the grabler section I want to say that I acknowledge that we just casually glossed over the fact that you had a brother that died And I want to reserve the right to come back to that in a in a later podcast Yeah, it's okay. Yes, and my request on that would be it that just doesn't have to be weird That's uh, it's a part of the story. I miss my brother But I think like what Steve was saying at your church today It's one of those things where if it has to be weird every time it comes up and it's never going to come up And then the only people that think about you know those who have passed on are those who have been closest to him So I just say it's fair game.
They're good stories there. There's interesting stuff. Yes. We can bring it back up.
Okay, cool All right, my turn to grabble. I've got busy fingers and they have been And those busy fingers have been trotting around the internet finding the most interesting stuff I can and let me tell you what I found Destin sandlin. I found a $10,000 3d printable tiny house company 10,000 bucks. You get a tiny house it prints in a day.
Give me a website right now Okay, I'm going to um A 10k tiny house 3d printed in 24 hours. Yeah, okay. So there's a youtube video. Uh, it's down below Apis core apis one word c o r I have no idea what that short for if it swears in another language But whatever the case they have been building these things in Russia And it's this giant 3d printer and the ink is this unique concrete mixture And so they they put up this tent so they can they can print in any temperature practically And then you've got this 3d printing arm that telescopes back and forth and draws from this giant hopper full of concrete And it just gradually inks this house now the one I'm looking at is kind of a circling house Which makes sense because of the way the arm is set up.
Yeah, it's not it's not huge, but like it's straight up livable I mean, it's nice. So how do they do pipes and stuff? Oh wow, this is cool. You know what I like about it It makes the math part of my brain happy because it has to do with like converting polar coordinates to rectangular coordinates At least that round one.
I mean it has to be able to do that in order to make the shapes that it's making and move up and down, right? Yeah, it does because it's a radio arm. Yeah, you're right. Man.
It's pretty cool. It looks like it's reinforced as well It's really satisfying to see it school out. My question is how do they do how do they do pipes? Okay, so if I'm tracking with this they have a team on site that Works with the 3d arm as it goes along So I'm assuming that they would be putting down, you know, whatever pipes and plumbing is going to be part of the deal from a kit That's all cut in advance and that it certain phases in the process They just have to jump in there and this goes here this goes there and then it prints around it That's just they didn't say that but that's just from watching the video what I would guess so whatever the case I mean, they've got the thing figured out it's not the most attractive house I've ever seen but for $10,000 Uh that could change the world it could it's very brutalist looking you know like concrete That's what it is.
They painted this happy yellow color to try to act like it's not That's like the first rule of brutalist architectures don't paint the concrete, but they do it So I say that as if I know anything about architecture at all. I don't incredibly smart. I was just for being silent I'm gonna talk about this uh when you go to Rome Yeah, you go there's a tourist you hang out in the pretty old party like the old stuff Of course he's marvel at this architecture that he stood the test of time And then if you go out of Rome toward their old port of oste and it's not a port anymore It's silt it in so it's all kind of preserved in time at school spot But on the way if you look out the train you will see Mussolini's Rome fascist Rome And it's just yeah, he's concrete monuments to getting people to line up and participate in a bigger plan I don't know what the Italian people think about Mussolini's building programs or anything from that era I think they're hideous and dehumanizing and if there's a downside to this it's it's just what you're saying This is certainly anything but lovely and I think loveliness kind of does matter in architecture I think it does too. You kind of want to go home because it feels comfortable and pretty and stuff like that and This doesn't feel comfortable and pretty but it's really neat the way it's going Question I have here is one of the major parts of building a house is the foundation And you have to pour a footer and they're just doing this right on top of the gravel So it looks like they're creating this little trough with the stuff and then they're filling it in and that's what they're calling a footer But it doesn't look very stable to me.
You know what I mean? I don't know man Let's flesh this out a little bit. Would you ever live in a 3d printed home? And if so, would it look like this?
If the alternative was homelessness, I definitely live in it. I don't care if it's stylish or good for society or not I just want shelter for my family if I have the option to pick something No, this wouldn't be high on my list if they can do that. I bet they can do something cooler than that What about you? I think it's an interesting concept and I would definitely do something like this for a shop, you know place to park a tractor.
Yeah, something like that Yeah, something easy to put up on the you know back a lot of a property What about this it takes a small crew one day to make one of these What are the economic implications of something like that? I don't know man to me this seems like a gimmick because as I'm looking at it I realize that The the hardest part of building a building is the floors and the roof Right and so all they're doing is making walls stand upright and a framing crew can frame a wall with timbers And you know two by fours in just a matter of hours So this seems a little gimmicky. I mean isn't there something in Rome where to build a roof a certain size They had to develop a certain amount of engineering knowledge. Yeah, they had to invent ways to handle larger spans Yeah, and so all the magic here seems to be in making a wall, which isn't that impressive?
We have cinder blocks and all that good stuff. I don't know You have a turn around time. I mean 24 hours and you have a house ready to go It seems like that would be really appealing and 10 grand if you're talking about some places really I mean that's that's a few months worth of rent You know what I'm doing? I'm looking on YouTube here And I'm finding things about 3d printed homes from like 2014 2015 and to me This is looking like a lot of people have tried to make it work, but it's still gimmicky It's just not happening people aren't for whatever reason.
It's kind of like 360 video Everybody was told the 360 video is gonna be amazing But is it amazing have you ever watched a 360 video and like I've ever seen that it was cool with that is that walk off the earth video I don't want to see another music video like that one was plenty. Yeah, exactly I saw the Swiss fighter jet team flying I was like oh neat 360 video. I can look around the canopy and I'm done Yep, this kind of falls into the same category with me I don't know so our conclusion is that 3d printed homes as they stand now are not the thing that will bring about the robot revolution and Human employment and solve all of the housing problems of the world as it stands right now Yes, I'm definitively making that statement I use 3d printers this week to create parts that I couldn't create using traditional machining methods And the reason it was so valuable is because I needed unique geometries and it did it for me I wrote my sermon this week on a 3d printer Okay, we need to talk about the 5050 thing again I unlike Destin continue to think that this is the fourth or fifth best idea in the history of the internet And I'm not willing to give up on it So here's a quick review We made a game called the 5050 where no matter what happens you basically lose If you lose and win you have to sponsor us on patreon if you lose and lose you have to sponsor us on patreon and watch a horrifying video Well, some people apparently don't like watching zebras being disemboweled by crocodiles Which is an opinion I can respect but will never understand so last episode I let Destin through his weakness convince me that we should put two heartwarming tender nice videos on the 5050 And let you play a game where if you win you get a tender heartwarming video and if you lose you get a tender heartwarming video And I think that's lame so we're gonna do a compromise version this time around of the 5050 So episode 00650 is going to work like this If you play and win and again we play by going to the 5050.com You can type in anything resembling the 5050 and it will get you there because we spent stupid amounts of money to buy every URL that couldn't anyway be conceived of as the 5050.com So literally slam your drunken flippers on the keyboard again and again and you will eventually get to the 5050.com At which point you'll be presented with two buttons representing two different links Pick in your brain Which of those two links you want to click on then use your hands to manipulate your mouse to click on one of those two links If you win you'll be redirected to a page where you will get to enjoy the gummy bears theme song referenced in this episode Now you'll be morally obligated to listen to that in its entirety before clicking on the link to go to patreon and support us your friends If you lose you'll be redirected to one of the most disappointing songs in the history of both church and the internet Descent and I both cherish it and we both hope you lose so that you can cherish it as well Now you'll be obligated to listen to all of that before clicking on the patreon link to once again support us your friends Thanks so much for playing the 5050 in advance and thanks so much for being a part of no dumb questions I'm matt now back to the program Okay, the third and final grabler round for each of us The ground rules where it has to come from a patron or a question from a listener So you are up with the listener question round. Okay with my section I'm actually going to do two but I'll just kind of half of them and you know what the time between the two Um, the first one is a question from patreon thomas ballzamo He says question are there any unfair misconceptions that people have about your occupations?
If so, what do you want people to know to help clear them up? Okay, so um, I would say Uh as an engineer people think that we're dorky and we don't have people skills And dude, you disprove that dorky thing every single day. Yeah, thanks man No, I think uh, I think that actually is a big misconception and they think that engineers are just you know Unidimensional people that like to sit around and do complex free body diagrams and calculate things I I have met a lot of engineers that have really really interesting hobbies A lot of climbers a lot of people that like to go hiking and build airplanes And there's just a lot of really cool technical stuff that people do in their off time That that's probably the biggest one and that we're all good at math All of us aren't good at math. There are some people that struggle with it.
Yeah. No, how I don't know What do you think of the engineers who are bad at math and then the projects associated with them So that I might avoid those things bridges bridges. I cannot Oh, no, I'm not really like a math guy, but I made this your uh airplane Uh So when you think engineer, what do you think? Okay, I think uh german I think the top button is always buttoned.
I think you're gonna you're not gonna want to ruin your shirt So you're gonna want something to protect those pens Um, right for real. What do you think of when you think of engineer for the longest time? Like that that was the stereotype when I was a kid. That's what I pictured like just Like people who stand in a row and yeah write things on clipboards at this point I just picture people who speak a different language than me I picture people who maybe go as far to the extreme of thinking everything about the human experience in the world is explainable through Numbers and data and studies as I may be skewed to the other side thinking everything about the world is explainable through abstractions and conversation and personalities and philosophy A scientist is somebody who studies, you know, the hard sciences But an engineer takes it to the next level and actually applies that science to everyday life in a way that makes it real and usable That's why engineering is so cool.
It's like Batman who has a utility belt But actually uses the utility belt. You know what I mean? Engineers know the stuff and learn the stuff in school or actually I'm gonna take that back engineers don't learn all the stuff in school They basically just learn how to learn and then they come out of school Knowing how to do things and if they don't know how to do it They ask the question and figure it out and apply science to it and do neat things with it I don't know engineering is awesome. Is there a Subset of engineers who all the good engineers know are bad because they're a thing that if you do that all the good engineers just roll their eyes Like oh my goodness, it's that again.
Yeah. Yeah, there is PowerPoint the way engineers use PowerPoint can be either mind-numbing or brilliant I mean sometimes people will just throw a chart up there with like 50 bullets and they'll be like oh, yeah today We're gonna talk about this and you're like oh god. This guy's about to read me this slide. Oh, he's reading me this slide You know and so the way I do it is sometimes I'll do a presentation with just videos or just Just pictures.
I'll throw a picture up there and just talk about the picture and I get people mentally engaged as much as possible But you know, I'm a little bit different a lot of people tend to do that though They're the coolest ones to communicate with We're kind of in the age of stereotypes applying less I mean if there's one good thing that's come out of being hyper sensitive about every stupid thing You could possibly be offended about is that it does at least force us all to think a little bit in terms of Well, maybe my brush is a little too broad and how I think about this or that Well, what about misconceptions about preachers because you're a preacher, aren't you Matt? Well, first of all, thanks for using that term. I also would have enjoyed reverend. That's great I did not set out to do this.
This was not my intent I like philosophy and history and theology and where those things mix So that's like I mean, that's just how you end up at seminary I studied all that stuff and so I I feel like I really backed into this kind of on accident But I really love it You're positioned to be there when people are in tough spots or when people are asking the big questions and He's you get to help a lot and I you know I'm a selfish jerk But I also have a side of me that likes to help and so I I like the job way more than I thought that I would like it And for the record, you prefer the term pastor, right? I don't know that I prefer any of the three I guess that's the one I would like best it sounds less the least aggressive But do you have a masters of what's it called? Yeah, I got no, I don't have an MDiv. I have a I have an MA From his master of divinity, right?
Yeah, an MDiv is like a 96 credit hour program So if you meet somebody who has an MDiv, they have the equivalent of most people's doctorates It is a massive program and you have to learn two incredibly difficult languages to get it. Great. Can Hebrew Yeah, these are smart people. Yeah, you might not agree with everything they think I don't agree with everything every pastor thinks But I gotta give them their props.
They did their work. Well for the most part I guess you can be a pastor by just anybody calling you a pastor. What do you have? I have two master's degrees and what?
My first MA is in Systematic theology and church history and my second MA is in history of the American West history of western thought They're all kind of vague history ideas theology that kind of stuff But here's my thing the one that always gets me is this um If I'm on a plane and I'm talking with someone and we're having a normal conversation because this apparently is the only place where it's still Somewhat socially acceptable to just talk with someone without meeting them on an app first If I'm sitting on a plane with them and we're talking this is all good and everything and we're just being normal with each other We eventually get around to the what do you do for a living and when I say what I do I get the same two things every time Do you want to guess what they are? Uh, no, okay, I always guess because I just feel uncomfortable even thinking about it Terrible man. Do they like start telling you awesome stuff and like you know cussing a lot? Yes, but nobody and all of a sudden they clam up Yeah, and their ideas are different than mine and it's interesting and it's good and I'm like they're helping me grow as a human And I'm learning about them when we're having a blast and and they're using normal person language and and so am I I hope But then inevitably so what do you do?
Oh, I'm uh, I'm a uh, I'm a minister. Oh, yeah, yeah, I haven't been to church. Sorry, man Why on earth would you apologize? I mean for anything?
Because it's met you on a plane and you're nice. It's fine. Do whatever you need to do dude We already covered that. I'm a libertarian go crazy and then I always get to yeah, yeah, sorry about the uh Sorry about the language.
Sometimes that gets the best to me pastor with don't I am mad. We have already covered this You know my name dude. I'm not I'm not calling you contractor as soon as I find out what you do Like it's cool. I guess that is interesting because you know people aren't like oh an engineer Please could you solve this equation for me?
I've been really wondering about the uh the pitch on my house roof No, it's more like feeling guilty that they haven't figured out the pitch on their roof. Oh, I'm sorry engineer. I uh Yeah, I keep meaning to figure out the pitch on my roof and uh, you know, okay now my calculator out for a long time I need to get back to that it's weird. Okay.
Here's the next question from patreon This is from jessiah Michael if the salary you make from your job was just given to you by someone without having to work What would you do with the extra time you now have also matt you should post stuff on snapchat? I think you would be good at it. Thank you. Thank you jossiah Michael I do post things on snapchat sometimes whenever I travel I do a lot but I forget today I posted I posted a picture of alc from my front yard matt.
What's your snapchat handle worst christian that makes perfect sense Yes, it does pretty proud. All right, so back to the question If your salary you make from your job was just given to you by someone without having to work What would you do with the extra time you go first? I don't feel like I work for money. I work because I like I really like doing what I do.
You know what I mean? Thanks a lot for stealing my answer. Yeah, yeah I mean I really like doing what I do and if they're like hey, you don't have to do this anymore I'd be like, can I because I like shooting stuff and I like doing all this math and figuring out these super complex things that are really hard to figure out It's very challenging to me and it feels like it plugs a little hole up in my mental brain space My answer is the same because I like all the stuff I just said a minute ago I really like what I do and when I was doing the academic thing I would prepare all these fancy lectures and stuff about things that happened a long time ago And my students were all really cool a ton of great students But if you publish something or go to a seminar, you know and talk about your content that you're into like eight people listen Nobody cares here every week I get to do original research on history and ideas and stuff and things that affect life And I get to go and process it with a whole bunch of people I really care about and and so it's fun to have this weekly rhythm of having Having to think and research and produce original work and and then share it with people I like so I don't I don't think I would change much I love where I live. I really like where I go to church.
I really like what I get to do So yeah, I don't know we both said the same thing is that lame? No, I don't think so. It's real. That's how the grabler works We just do things whatever is the grabler well enough established that it has ground rules.
I don't think so It's important Okay, my turn for the final grabler round that was fun But it was a lot of talking about stuff we do and things like that this one has nothing to do with us And I am eager to get off the subject of us for a minute So here's a question that we got on the subreddit if a conjoined a twin murders someone how would the law deal with this? I actually remember this because it was one of the original things on the subreddit before we started taking questions on the subreddit I think it's a really fun question and I've actually been thinking about this a little bit But let's get your knee jerk reaction can join twin murders someone we assume the other twin didn't feel like it And even tried to push back on this. What do you do with it? Well, I think it's a lot like a conjoined twin getting married.
Well, what do you do with that? How is this different? You know, there are conjoined twins who have been married to not conjoined twins There's a lot of things that happen when you're married, but how can someone you know, how can someone commit murder as a conjoined twin if somebody else wasn't Involved at least in some way. How could that even happen?
Well, okay, let's just game it out Let's say you and I are duct taped to each other and you get really mad at somebody and want to have a fist fight What am I supposed to do about that? I don't know You are still an actor in the world you have agency whether you have a body with four limbs like you generally think of or whether you have a body that works differently And you're responsible for that agency and what you do in the world around you, right? I'm continuously solving problems like this amongst my children How so? You know, it's like well, he made me do it really he made you do that How did please explain how he made you do that?
Well, you know, he asked me to really so you got to choose so he didn't make you do it That kind of thing anyway, we digress I think if a conjoined twin murdered someone and the other twin did not want to do it I think by law, aren't you required to report it within 24 to 48 hours if you're aware of a crime being committed? I assume murder is a mandatory report kind of thing I'm gonna end up right now I feel like it would be pretty unethical at the very least not to report a murder you witnessed Penalties for failure to report and false reporting of child abuse and I can only assume that this would extend to things like murder Since murder is worse. Yes. Yeah, I don't know.
I mean child abuse is pretty high up there on my list I don't know. I think that once you don't report then you're your fault So let's go ahead and assume that the other dissenting party decided to report the conjoining twin for murder I don't know what I don't know what happens. Well, okay, but even in that scenario Like let's say one was dissenting it didn't report and the other actually murdered somebody which is an absurd scenario But this gets somewhere important. I think those are not the same crime It's not nearly the same level of crime to not report a murder as it is to kill someone, right?
So the punishment still wouldn't be equal and that gets really to the heart of the question Which is what's more important to punish the guilty or to not punish unjustly the innocent? What's the greater value? I don't know man. I don't know.
I just don't think it can happen I think this is one of those things that it's impossible for this to happen false destined sandlin because I have internet and using internet I found a book called conjoined twins and historical biological and ethical issues encyclopedia by christine quigley available on google books Which I found and went through as an e-book and discovered that in 17th century paris a conjoined twin stabbed someone else possibly murdered them And ultimately was acquitted because the french were unwilling to punish the innocent twin for the guilt of the guilty twin Are you serious? I'm dead serious this happened point me to the link. Hmm. It's kind of complicated here.
All right I'm sorry Italy france is what I have here It's tough. I got a big giant e-book. I don't want you have to wait through it all I found a link that says something in italy happened in 17th century Wait, man half guilty How would the american legal system punish conjoined twins of one commit murder? Oh wow, I want to look at law website Oh my goodness to consider more extreme approaches to punish the guilty twin the court could order the twins separated So that the guilty twin may be punished.
Okay, I heard that proposal But the problem is if even the slightest bit of that shared flesh Belongs to you or vital organ it is none of the government's business You see what i'm saying? The government says no claim on a human body It doesn't own me so on an innocent human body because you can the government I mean the death penalty is a thing So the government can incapacitate you yeah, it can i'm not sure the death penalty is just we might disagree on this point We can get into that another time but I do agree in principle that society not even necessarily government But society has the right to stop you from doing tangibly harmful things to other people Does that make sense yes it does so if you're messing with their stuff or you're actually tangibly hurting them the rest of us Concepting and say oh no you don't and we'll use force if we have to to stop you or to punish you as a deterrent and you know for future actions like that So the freedom of the other twin is just collateral damage at that point and it can't be How can you have a free and just society if you're allowed to do things to people and claim ownership of their body You know for the greater good for punishing other crimes and that's why I think okay I like this question because it gets us into something a little bit more complex here Which is how much ownership does society have over somebody else's body who didn't do anything wrong? Okay, so let's just answer the question. You're the judge you have to come down and you have to make the judgment There is no cop-outs here.
What do you do matt women case dismissed really if the twins have any Financial holdings I would try to offer some kind of civil award depending on you know what era this is happening in whether that's something I'm allowed to do but for me the freedom of the innocent party is more important than punishing the guilty party Well, I'm assuming the the family of the murdered victim would instantly want justice and they would feel like you wouldn't serve it So they would probably take it into their own hands So you just put the innocent party in harm's way much more because they're gonna get murdered as soon as they walk out of court room and you're cool with that Yeah, but it's not I am cool with that not them getting murdered But it is not the place of society as we administer justice to change the rules of justice to keep someone from maybe doing something bad I think you're doing that libertarian thing you do where you halfway think through something but not all the ramifications of it I think you're doing that not libertarian thing you do where you bypass morality for pragmatism sometimes I don't we're in destined just so that you know we're in a fight. Oh, this is a fight This is a fight and this is gonna bleed over into the outro stuff And it's gonna be hurtful between us for a really long time because that's how we fight can I go ahead and be judged as in for a second? Yes, it is your turn fire away house arrest So I'm gonna go ahead and put a tracking bracelet on the ankle of the guilty party You know assuming they have a separate ankle or at least the ankle on that half of the body Just so symbolically the innocent can join twin fuels separation from the guilt of the murder And then they're on house arrest and they have to be monitored where they are and where they go And so they don't have freedom per se and that they can't just go out and about but they can still hang out at the house and do all that kind of stuff They're protected from the person that wants to kill them You know somebody in the other family member, but at the same time You know they are not free to go out and about in society and murder an additional person That is one solution. That's what judge destined says.
Here's my problem with judge destined's position judge matt just killed the innocent twin No, no, no, no, man doesn't kill anybody those crazy people who are hell bent on revenge kill innocent people What I've seen is this though Like what you're proposing is just locking someone up and taking away their freedom for something they didn't do at all That's cool We know that's mean like if you just go to your neighbor and you're like um somebody you know did something bad So now you have to be under arrest because it's for your own good trust me like you know that that's messed up That's wrong. I agree and that's getting dangerously close to the you know the Japanese internment camps that the u.s Did back in world war two I agree with that and uh I have no defense for that but in this situation I'm assuming that's that's what I would probably say if I was in that situation Let me throw out one more option. Yeah, go ahead. How about incentivized exile How about just saying look it's not going to work in this very unusual situation for you guys to live in Paris and for the victim family to live in Paris So here's what we're going to do the best thing we can come up with here is to Strongly suggest that you relocate and strongly suggest that we will do our best to protect you But ultimately we probably can't so finding somewhere else do live would be wisest What about just counsel from the bench that proposes a practical solution where no force is needed on an innocent party?
I'm trying to think that through Is there a way you can do like a restraining order and you know geographically isolated person by law? Can you do that you mean a restraining order against the victims family? No a restraining order against the murderer from entering a particular county. I don't know we're leaving ourselves any option we want So let's say that was possible.
Yes, then what would be your plan? That probably makes more sense instead of confining and putting them in one location you would restrict them from entering a location I still think they're dead. You may write that is a very weird scenario That's a fun thought experiment though Oh, it's really fun and the bottom line for me is it pushes you right to where we got and the reason that we are in a blood view that I don't know if we can ever resolve I think it's over it pushes you right to the question of Which is more important justice for the offended or justice for the innocent And sometimes those things come into conflict and that's a challenge I'm looking forward to legit loggers and law students to tell us what the law of the land wherever they live would actually do in this situation I'm looking forward to those comments and the subreddit because I really want to know me too And I'm guessing that some of those laws will make a ton of sense to us and others will make us shake our heads our heads Really context. I'm really glad that I'm not I can join twin with you.
Are you kidding me? I think we would crush it Man, it would be awful. Oh, it would be a disaster. Yeah, we'd both be guilty of murder Okay, althador we need to do some follow-up here on the subreddit We talked about your freakish human skills in the last episode We asked people to post videos of their skills and that's really fun.
Oh, yeah It's really really good and most of them goofy a lot of like weird stuff people can do light with their bodies But the one we picked is more practical. There was a very clear winner It didn't have the most of votes, but jackalopeilin teaches you how to count in binary on your fingers So you can count to 32 on one hand, which is amazing. I highly recommend you go watch that video In fact, can we just leave a link to the reddit comment that he left there? Yeah, let's do it exactly like that Okay, so we'll do that in a please feel free to subscribe to the subreddit where you're there By the way reddit is a place that we're doing all of our commenting.
Do you want to explain reddit? We haven't done that yet We need to I've been asked a few times by people about just what the thing is that we keep talking about so reddit It calls itself the front page of the internet and it's a crowd-sourced website where you can post news or pictures of cats or whatever you want And then things get upvoted and downloaded by users and they have some kind of algorithm where the most interesting stuff makes it on to the front page So you can subscribe to different subreddits if you're interested in this topic or that topic So if you're not a reddit person, you might enjoy it You might also be scarred for life depending on what parts of reddit you get to but I promise no dumb questions is not entirely scarring Yes, if you go to reddit.com slash r for the subreddit slash no dumb questions Then you can see all the posts that we have that are associated with this particular podcast also I think you can go to let me try it no dumb questions dot reddit.com. I think we'll also work Yeah, that works as well. No dumb questions dot reddit.com one other thing we should mention on the way out the door is we have a youtube channel The cool thing is there's this young man that i've been working with trent and he's been making the videos for these episodes on youtube And they're really really good.
He's got a good eye for stuff. He's talented man and it's not just a good eye It's he's creative. Yeah, we asked him to kind of just go crazy and come up with cool stuff We can't really take credit for what's on there visually But this guy's clever and he's come up with really interesting ways to pass an hour and 40 minute podcast episode is something really cool visually So go check those out. Yeah, I think uh the last episode he melted crayons in a hot plate And then when we did the backwards talking stuff he started playing them backwards.
So the crayons unmeld Yes, exactly. It's like they rise up from the wax. It's so satisfying. You gotta check it out It's great.
Here's the thing um, we're trying to make the youtube version of this fun We're throwing some effort at it. We've got some good help on it Even if you're consuming the podcast somewhere else you might enjoy just swinging by and taking a look It'd be great if you subscribed to that just so we know how many people are actually taking the time to look at that Even if you don't like use that subscription it'd be great to have that indicator to know that it's still worth putting time effort and funds towards Yeah, okay We need to talk briefly about the patreon thing because I got a question about that similar to the question about reddit Yeah, a few folks have approached me. We're listening to the podcast. I'm like you talk about patreon a lot like we know what it is I don't know what it is.
Oh, well simply put patreon.com is a clever website and service Where if any individual wants to micro support somebody else who is making content on the internet that they give away for free Uh, you can do that you just sign up to have a small donation to the program come out of your account each time we post an episode And it's a way for us to pay our bills take care of the people who help out with us and a good way for you to get in touch with supporting You know anybody else who you might appreciate who's making stuff on the internet How to do is that basically the gist it's basically the cool thing about patreon is content on the internet can be hit or miss So you can make content and it can either be successful or not But if you enjoy something that somebody does for instance, there's this guy named patrick jmt that makes really good math tutorials And that in itself is not a lucrative business to be in but I think what he does has value And so I give him a dollar for every math video that he makes and you know if 2 000 people do that That's kind of the idea of what we're doing here Where you know people are helping us make this thing Yeah more and better content and the cool thing about it is that unlike a lot of other ways of funding something This avenue to funding is personal. You know who's helping and you feel ownership over what you're doing So that's what patreon's about. It's a good will engine. That's what it is.
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