007 | MH: “Mess and Mental Health - The Hidden Shame of Clutter” with my friends, The Pahl Sisters, Decluttering Experts

▶︎▶︎ EPISODE NOTESIn this episode of the Relate Great podcast, host Jonathan Sherman is joined by Chelsea Paul and Karissa Pahl from All of You Services, a cleaning company that goes beyond traditional cleaning to address mental health struggles. Jonathan discovered Chelsea through a heartfelt social media post highlighting the connection between depression and overwhelming mess. Chelsea and Karissa share their approach to helping clients declutter and deep clean their homes without judgment, emphasizing the therapeutic benefits of a tidy space. They discuss the emotional and relational impacts of living in disorganized environments, their personal connection to mental health issues like ADHD, and their unique teamwork dynamics. The episode concludes with practical advice for listeners feeling overwhelmed by clutter. 00:00 Introduction to Chelsea's Post on Depression and Messiness 02:44 Mental Health and Cleaning: A Deeper Connection 03:29 Client Experiences and Vulnerability 06:12 The Process of Decluttering and Organizing 08:58 Challenges and Boundaries in Cleaning 10:42 The Emotional Impact of a Clean Space 21:16 The Sisters' Journey into Cleaning 25:13 Hyper-Focused and Satisfied 26:08 Family Therapist Insights 26:23 Navigating Family Business Dynamics 27:24 Communication Challenges and Strategies 31:50 Impact of Home Organization on Relationships 40:13 Tips for Listeners: Cleaning and Mindset Hacks 44:07 Final Thoughts and Contact InformationReferenced Resources:Original post with picsWebsite: All of You ServicesFacebook: facebook.com/allofyouservicesEpisode Page: RelateGREAT.net/podcast/007-mess-and-mental-health