0165 - Agile at Scale with Jefferson Cowhig

Hosts: Jesus Cortina Bernal and Odhrán McDonnellWe are delighted to have Jefferson Cowhig to talk with us today. Jeff works in Financial Services Technology Transformation for EY.You are very welcome to the podcast Jeff. Could you say a few words about your own background and experience in consulting and technology?1.Can we start with an article we have been reading, Henrik Kniberg & Anders Ivarsson’s “Scaling Agile @ Spotify”. What were your impressions when you first learnt about the Spotify model? [2012-2016- the Tribes, Squads, Chapters & Guilds… How LeSS/SAFe reacted and interpreted it then and since?]2.You are a fan of “Team Topologies”, could you tell us about the approach? [candles and cake problem? - organisations are complex, and large organisations are complex and complicated a tool for analysing structure and introducing change for teams, and teams of teams - Team Topologies, matrix diagrams, organisation charts – help to make organisations tangible – capture connections, responsibilities, reporting.]3.Could you share any tips on approaches that embed communication across hierarchies and between teams?4.How do you start an agile transformation?5.What do you say to the statement that “ideas and solutions are easy, that the real problem is finding real problems”?6.How has consulting changed over the last couple of years working the Covid?7.Any final thoughts on changes coming over the next 5 years?8.Another question?Well, we’ll wrap up there.Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences today.Notes:https://eyfinancialservicesthoughtgallery.ieJeff’s talk to ALI in March 2021 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuaOfQzFYmUTeam Topologies: https://teamtopologies.com/key-concepts Book: Agile IT Organization Design | Thoughtworks - https://www.thoughtworks.com/insights/books/agile-it-organization-designCynefin Framework About - Cynefin Framework - The Cynefin Co - https://thecynefin.co/about-us/about-cynefin-framework/Kniberg Product Ownership Video: Agile Product Ownership in a Nutshell - YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=502ILHjX9EEJeremiah Lee: Spotify’s Failed #SquadGoals (jeremiahlee.com) - https://www.jeremiahlee.com/posts/failed-squad-goals/SAFe: SAFe 5 for Lean Enterprises (scaledagileframework.com) - https://www.scaledagileframework.com/LeSS: Overview - Large Scale Scrum (LeSS) - https://less.works/Simon Sinek - Start with why - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4ZoJKF_VuAThe Social Dilemma: the technology that connects us also controls us - https://thesocialdilemma.comCredits and LicenseMusic Title: ImpulseArtist: Ben PruntySource: https://www.benpruntymusic.com/License: Non-transferable license. Permission granted by Ben Prunty (personal letter)Cover Art Title: Pick and MixArtist: Conor Fitzpatrick; and Graphic Design: Allen HigginsSource: Fitzpatrick_Unamed.jpg -> PickAndMix-Name.pptxLicense: CC BY-NC-SA 4.0 (Permission granted by Conor Fitzpatrick (personal letter))Podcast LicenseDesign Talk (dot IE) CC BY-NC-SA 4.0 The license can be viewed at https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0By taking part you give permission for your voice to be recorded, for the recording to be edited, and for it to be posted and published as a podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.