020 | 「白莲花度假村」：出淤泥而全染的人间群像 "The White Lotus 2": a scan of reality

【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 本期节目由大人糖赞助播出 【聊了什么The What】 「白莲花度假村」 White Lotus 2是今年呼声最大的剧集之一，引发了无数中英文关于人性幽微、性与权力、表演性女权主义者等等问题的思考和讨论。这次我们和神交很久的好朋友Hayami聊了这部剧集。 White Lotus 2 is one of the most popular dramas of the year, sparking countless think pieces and discussions in both English and Chinese about class, about the nuanced power dynamics in relationships, sex and desire. In this episode, we invited our friend Hayami to talk about how the series was received in China and the U.S. 【时间轴 The When】 0 - 8:50 大人糖产品广告时间 10:30「白莲花度假村」的群像戏和人物简介 15:00 Ethan和Harper之间的权力/性关系 20:40 Ethan和Cameron之间的同性竞争，隐隐的较量，和勾心斗角 27:00 深挖Harper这个女性人物 29:35 深挖小助理角色 36:40 Tonya的悲剧 48:00 又迷人又天真且从未作恶的“妓女”？ 57:00 意大利爷爷父子三代人是在逐代变好吗？ 59:40 男性们的“女性主义”表演时刻 0 - 8:50 Commercial 10:30 Group scenes and character profiles in "White Lotus 2" 15:00 The power dynamics within Ethan and Harper's relationship 20:40 The toxic "male camaraderie," jealousy and hidden rivalry between Ethan and Cameron 27:00 Digging deeper into Harper‘s character 29:35 Why do we dislike Portia so much? 36:40 Tanya's Tragedy 48:00 The charming, innocent, and not-real female characters: Mia and Lucia 57:00 Are the three generations of men getting better at respecting women? 59:40 Virtual signalling and performing being a "feminist" 🎉「听众专属福利」 对大人糖产品感兴趣的朋友们，可通过以下2种方式获得专属优惠，逗豆鸟和小海豹原价359元，领券后到手价299元，备注还可额外赠送158元大礼包，早买早享受，具体有什么可以点击链接查看详情哦✌️ 1⃣️点击这里（https://market.m.taobao.com/app/tb-source-app/shopact/pages/index?wh_weex=true&pathInfo=shop/activity&userId=2207279521660&shopId=590584953&pageId=370417957&alisite=true）跳转或复制口令【98￥OrzxdjQ2PXg￥】领专属优惠券，下单直接满减 2⃣️淘宝搜索【大人糖旗舰店】，私信客服，报暗号【疲惫娇娃】领券下单 重要提示！ 1、下单时记得一定要备注【疲惫娇娃】才会随单一起送出礼包哦 2、部分苹果手机是最新系统的听友可能会遇到口令无法跳转的情况，选择第2种方式购买也可以的哦 另外！考虑到我们有部分海外听众，也可通过点击➡️（https://go.osuga.com/3mNV2uf），下单输入优惠码【疲惫娇娃40】可立减40刀，但到手价格&优惠政策与国内不同享，有需要的朋友们可以自由选择啦～