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Feb 23, 2025 1 hr 30 min

#03: Data Ownership is a Lie w/ Pablo

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“You’ll get all that for free if you build it right” In this dialogue: 01: Start Ugly 02: There is No Global Concept of ownership & “Read, Write, Own” Shamir Secret Sharing and Timelocks “No amount of violence will ever solve a math problem.” You can’t prove deletion of a key (or anything, really); best you can do is “burn” bitcoin Data is information, which behaves like an idea (not like an apple) “If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas.” – https://dergigi.com/threads/memes-vs-the-world Why the Pubky architecture isn’t great Cashu Nutzaps: NIP-60 / NIP-61 How nutzaps fix fake zaps on zaplife.lol “Ecash fixes HTTP 402” “[Bitcoin [and nostr]] take advantage of the nature of information being easy to spread but hard to stifle.” –Satoshi Nakamoto Discovery with NIP-89 #RunDVM with NIP-90 Why micropayments can’t work on credit rails, and how bitcoin is the rediscovery of money. Putting payments into blossom “Money is essen­tially a tool to keep track of who owes what to whom. Broadly speaking, every­thing we have used as money up to now falls into two categories: physical artifacts and infor­ma­tional lists. Or, to use more common parlance: tokens and ledgers.” “maximum utility in the world of Bitcoin entails the adoption of maximum responsibility.” Complexity of Lightning vs the simplicity of eCash Amber and Citrine How Pablo became the BIS 12 words in your head can literally save your life The in-between of custodial and non-custodial in a multi-mint world Nutzaps integrated in chachi.chat The intermediacy of nostr is magic In nostr you’ll get a lot for free IF YOU BUILD IT RIGHT “Free Speech platforms cannot exist; if there is a ‘deplatform’ button, the button will be pressed.” “Neither nostalgia nor utopia.” Solutions that make stuff worse over time vs solutions that make stuff better over time. #asknostr on passkeys, and why we think they’ll make things worse over time. Authentication vs identity: “identification asks, authentication proves” You are not your name and photo; identity is prismatic (m00t’s talk on it at web summit 2011) Starbug from CCC pwning TouchID biometrics from a high-res photo (article) Key rotation and (American) HODL Social recovery Multi-sig for nostr with FROSTR Links & References Nostr Protocol Repository: https://github.com/nostr-protocol Cashu (e-cash): https://github.com/cashubtc NIP-60 (Nutzaps): https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/master/60.md NIP-89 (Service Discovery) & NIP-90 (DVMs) – upcoming proposals: https://nips.nostr.com/89 & https://nips.nostr.com/90 Recorded at 884,723.

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  1. 0:00 Start Ugly
  2. 7:38 Shamir Timelocks
  3. 17:10 Apple Exchange
  4. 24:28 Nutzaps
  5. 31:38 NIP-89 Discovery
  6. 37:33 Paying Blossom
  7. 45:34 Amber and Citrine
  8. 54:32 Multi-Mint Middle
  9. 1:00:23 Deplatform Buttons
  10. 1:08:35 Passkeys Debate
  11. 1:17:49 TouchID Hacks
  12. 1:22:41 FROSTR Multisig

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