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EPISODE · Feb 3, 2026 · 23 MIN

03 | The Challenger Legacy: Columbia

from Science Friction · host Australian Broadcasting Corporation

In 2003, close to two decades after the Challenger disaster, seven astronauts were killed in another space shuttle accident. History has repeated itself and NASA faces another reckoning — the parallels between the two disasters are undeniable. To hear more podcast episodes from hosts Fiona Pepper and Dr Karl Kruszelnicki about the legacy the 1986 Challenger space shuttle disaster left on culture, space exploration and high-risk decision making, search ‘Science Friction: The Challenger Legacy podcast’ from Radio National (RN) on the ABC Listen App (Australia), or wherever you get your podcasts.Guests:Miles O'BrienAerospace correspondent, CNNJon ClarkFormer NASA physician and husband of Laurel ClarkMike CiannilliFormer Columbia integration systems engineer, NASAJulie PayetteFormer astronaut, NASACredits:Presenters: Fiona Pepper and Karl KruszelnickiReporter: Fiona PepperSenior Producer: James BullenSeries Producer: Jonathan WebbExecutive Producer: Petria LadgroveSound Engineer: Tim JenkinsArchives Research: Lisa Chidlow, Michael OsmondSpecial thanks to the Clark family for sharing their family archives.This story was made on the lands of the Gadigal and Menang Noongar peoples.

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