033: Fostering Meaningful Conversations on Race with Matthew Kay and Jennifer Orr

How can educators create meaningful conversations in the classroom and tackle challenging topics like race? We had the pleasure of speaking with two phenomenal teachers and authors, Matthew K and Jennifer Or, who share their insight on fostering open dialogue with students. As passionate educators, both of them have written books that focus on leading conversations in an inclusive and respectful manner, ensuring that students get the most out of their classes.Our conversation delves into the diverse demographic of Matthew's school in Philadelphia and the importance of understanding boundaries as teachers. We discuss the need for safe spaces in the classroom and the power of reflection in creating these spaces. Jennifer and Matthew also share their experience co-authoring their book "We're Going to Keep on Talking," which aims to lead meaningful race conversations in elementary classrooms, and the personal motivations behind their collaboration.As the discussion progresses, we touch on the importance of having conversations about race and racism with young people and how to provide a safe space for them to learn from each other. Jennifer and Matthew emphasize the importance of knowing when to draw the line in engaging in conversations about race and the significance of self-reflection for educators. Tune in to this engaging episode with our esteemed guests, Matthew K and Jennifer Or, and discover ways to develop meaningful conversations in your classroom.Connect with Matthew Kay and Jennifer Orr:Matt: Website, ASCD column, Twitter, Jen: Website/Blog, ASCD Column, TwitterBe sure to read their books:Not Light, But Fire: How to lead meaningful race conversations in the secondary classroomWe’re Gonna Keep On Talking: How to lead meaningful race conversations in the elementary classroom (co-authored with Jennifer Orr)