It's good to have you back though. I was going to be back. The vacation was what I needed. It was great because going into it with the expectation of like, hey, I'm not going to do anything.
I'm just going to be purely relaxed. And I have no expectations of sightseeing or anything else. This was going to be my lazy, just decompressed vacation. And a cruise turned out to be a pretty good avenue for that, and also a not so great avenue for that, which we can get into in a little bit if you want to.
But having that time off was very beneficial for my mental health and my well-being. And I miss my family a lot, but they were having tons of fun with my mom and my sister. So they got to have their own little mini vacation from mom and dad. And everyone's back together.
Everyone's happy. And I just feel a lot better. Good, good. Well, I'm glad to hear that.
I am interested to hear like what that guy was like. This was, you said first cruise, right? Well, this is my second cruise. I guess my first cruise as an adult who actually is more observant and doesn't care just about his own little bubble, I guess.
And being on vacation, I should have cared about my little bubble. But having your eyes kind of, you know, your eyes open just more and more as you get older. And they start closing again. And you start narrowing down your vision just, you know, like your little spirit of influence and what affects you directly.
But in paying attention to everything, a cruise is a very interesting thing. Because you pack a lot of people onto a boat together where you're going to run into the same people. You know, just the odds are very, very, in your favor that you will run into people over and over again. And the people that you usually remember are the ones who are usually a little more noticeable for various reasons, whether it be their behavior or, you know, just kind of the way they carry themselves or a lot of things.
And you can't get away from them. Like there's no way to get away. So I think it was, like I said, a social experiment, like if I was a sociologist and I was on the cruise, I would have loved to be there because I would have done writing stuff on my notebook all day. But it was fun.
I mean, for what it is, you know, I know what you put in here that it's like a floating buffet trip. And that is so true. There is just food everywhere. Food is all over the place.
And the other thing that's all over the place is alcohol. And food and alcohol and a bunch of people means a bunch of drunk fat people walking around on a boat. And that's essentially what a cruise boil down to you for me was a bunch of fat people walking around a boat and half of those fat people were drunk and a quarter of those fat people had kids. And, you know, props to, you know, the cruise people because they put that back of the boat.
It's kind of like the kids section, right? With like the buffets, with all the desserts and stuff. And kind of the front of the boat is more geared towards like adults. So they tried to separate you as much as they can.
Like I said, it's a boat. And when you have to, you know, actually eat it at the dining room in the back of the boat, you're going to run into some kids at night. And the kids were the least of my concern. Like I actually didn't really care about any of the kids running around.
It was all the adults. I mean, people just got to get their shit together. And there were a lot of people just, I don't know, they were letting it all hang out. And I guess it's what a vacation is for.
But I didn't need to see that. Yeah, so I don't know, when I went on a cruise last, I guess I would say I had some blinders on. Like I was at a young enough age where I didn't really notice those sort of social, you know, like situations that I would take note of those sort of things. But I definitely remember that the floating buffet thing.
I mean, and I do remember the sort of thing you're talking about where, I mean, this thing is only the ship is only what a fifth of a mile long. You know, I mean, so in you're on it with 2,000 people. So guess what? Yeah, you're going to see the same people over and over and over again.
And you're totally right. The people that you sort of hate stick out in your mind. And you see them again and again, you're like, oh, not this person again, not this person again. And you know, you just kind of want to distance yourself from them.
But Shocker, the furthest you're going to get away from them is maybe a fifth of a mile. So I could have jumped off the boat, but I feel like that would have been a poor decision, you know. Yeah, you have a better decision quality than to try to pull something like that. But the other thing I was going to say is the way I treated this cruise was kind of, and I know you mentioned earlier that you're kind of on cruise control just with, you know, your life and work life right now.
This was kind of, you know, it's a horrible pun, but cruise control for my vacation. Very much, you know, let's just hold your hand and walk you through all the things, and we'll take you to this place in that place. And knowing what I know now after doing the cruise, the way I view it is it's a floating buffet for food, and it's also a floating buffet for vacation. So you get to try a little bit here and try a little bit there, you know, but the difference is you can't go back whenever you want.
But now I kind of know, I'm like, okay, if we go back, which we definitely will go back to the office because it's beautiful down there. It was really nice and warm. The beaches are amazing. The water is great.
There's tons of, you know, stuff you can do with snorkeling. And it was just a really beautiful place to be in perfect, you know, time of the year for us to go. But now I know that, okay, I'll go to this island and I'll hang out on this island because out of the cruise, you know, we were there for a day and we had to be back, you know, by five o'clock, I would have rather just stay on that island and not go to the other two little places that we went to. It's like, now I know, all right, I'm not going to get back in line for, you know, the bread pudding because it was super runny.
I'm going to go back and get, you know, the prime rib because I know that's at least fresh. So I got to kind of try a little bit of everything. And now we just have a better idea for planning our own vacation the next time. So that's cool.
So you recall, I mentioned something about the Bahamas having limos as taxis. Did you happen to see any there? I did see like a lot of like black cars, not necessarily limousines, but there were definitely a lot of black cars and kind of like the black car service. And that's what like when you see like a line of taxis or where you used to see a line of taxis, you'd see a line of black cars.
And the difference now is that, you know, there aren't really as many taxis it seems and the places where we stopped, you know, at port, they're definitely, you know, the most taxis, but you didn't really see them like out and about. I didn't see them all over. And since we didn't have a lot of time to go anywhere, we actually didn't get to venture too far into any of the islands. And whenever we did, it was kind of on like a tour.
So we were on a bus with a bunch of other people, but I can't really confirm your or just validate for you that there are still limos everywhere. I only saw maybe one, but like I said, a lot of like big Cadillac Escalade type things or like the Chevrolet equivalent of those. I saw a lot more of those as taxis than I did limos. Got it.
Okay. Cool. So I see here you were also in a little bit of follow up. I guess disappointed with last week's episode regarding online school discussions.
So I have to admit, before we dive into this, that this didn't cross my mind. Big surprise there, but I don't have kids. And I know you probably have a lot to add here because I think your kids, if I recall correctly, do this. I'm interested to know a little bit more about this because I haven't, I have to admit I'm pretty naive here.
I don't know a lot in this area. So tell me a little bit about it. So the only thing I would say is I'm not disappointed. I'm just, this is the whole section that kind of got like glossed over was the space of online education, right?
You guys talked about all these things that you're using in the classroom and how to manage these things and all this technology coming around it, but that's still all with kids in a physical classroom together. And the virtual classroom seems much more interesting to me when we talk about like technology and education, because we've talked about it once or twice where we'll start discussing something and the idea of college comes up and then the idea of a trade school comes up and then the idea of an online trade school comes up. And with technology, these days connecting people from all over the world, giving you access to all this vast knowledge and connecting people all over, why can't we also bring a school setting online? And that's what a lot of companies try to do.
So I can say that myself, I've taken self-paced like online courses and it's gotten much more interactive and much nicer. We've mentioned Treehouse a couple times, right? And I have been a Treehouse member, a student, my subscription is on hold right now, which is awesome because you can put it on hold for six months and then pick back up for six months. So if you're going to be busy, you're not paying every month for something you're not using, but being able to kind of like self-paced pick something up and learn just say like a new language, like, oh man, I really have to brush up on Python.
So you sign up for Treehouse and for the month, you just cram a bunch of Python, you know, and then you learn a bunch of useful skills and then cool, you're done, right? You can pause your subscription again and let's say, oh, I need to learn, you know, JavaScript for by this next project. So you go on there and you can get a crash course on JavaScript. And the thing that I think I wanted to touch on, especially when it comes to online school, is how are you making it interactive?
And I think that's, it's easy to put a book online and say the book's now online. And with technology and education, it's like, how do we bring a classroom environment? Because the benefits of the classroom environment are, hey, you know, one-to-one real-time communication, the social aspect aspect of talking to other students and group projects, things like that. How do we bring all that online in a way that doesn't try to just emulate the experience, but takes all the best parts of the classroom, the best parts of online and merges them into one happy new thing.
So to answer your question, me knowing more about this is I can say that, yes, I've taken online classes and I can see the benefit and especially our traditional schooling, whereas I have to go to school at a specific time and do this at a specific time. And as an adult, and as I have kids, it's much harder to do that. As far as my kids go, they were homeschooled before they went to public school and my wife has her major in early childhood development. So she was very much kind of the best teacher to put in the classroom with them at home.
But they very much had like an online kind of tool that they could sign up for, whether it be for reading, for math, or what have you. And they could kind of at their own pace just go on a computer and gamify the whole thing and just take this course and learn whatever it is. And now they're just tools for research and reference. But I think what we'll see kind of later on is that the physical classroom will start blurring more into a virtual classroom where it doesn't necessarily, you know, you don't have to be at a physical place.
You just have to have access to the internet or access to the classroom. So I was disappointed that you guys didn't really touch on that, but I think it also merits its whole, an entire episode of its own. So I didn't, you know, dock you too many points for that. Okay, fair enough.
I'm kind of curious to what impact you think, and I mean, we'll definitely have an episode on this. I think it's, like you said, it's worthy of it. But what impact do you think like social interactions, you know, are kind of have when kids don't get to interact with each other in a physical setting because they're doing something like online school? Do you think that really hinders concepts learning and mastery when you can't say, hey, you're on teams or things like that?
Or do you think it doesn't really impact them because there are other rich ways they can learn? I think there's more than one way just going to cat. And with my kids being homeschooled, right, and they were in the classroom at home for most of the time, you know, with their siblings and with their mom, right? And how do we build social interaction off that?
Well, it's like, okay, you put them in another activity that is going to be not based on like, say, the classroom, right? Because kids like, you're not going to get, you know, a bunch of kindergartes together and say, do a group project together, right? You can get them to share crayons and stuff like that. And they're going to learn that, you know, by interacting with other, you know, kids outside of even the classroom.
So I think building social skills doesn't just have to be in the classroom. And I think that's kind of a very, very minor place, right? Because when you talk about teacher to student ratios, like we can get into a whole argument there, but it's tough because you have a bunch of kids in a room together without a lot of supervision. And I think things can go south really quick, right?
Just having other kids be mean without, you know, interrupting or interjecting or kind of intervening in the situation. But anyway, I think like sports is a big one or, you know, physical education is a big one, because you have to go outside for that. There is no virtual equivalent of, you know, online sports. Now, e-sports is a different thing, but kids shouldn't be in e-sports until they at least you know, that awkward teenage stage and then they can stay in the room and play video games all day.
I don't care. But when they're younger, they need to go outside. They need to, you know, run around. They need to get out all this energy.
So sports is a big one and just going out and going to a park, you know, going to a park, you're going to run into all sorts of different social situations, right, whether that be sharing a toy or having a conflict or someone, you know, getting in front of you in the slide line or someone taking the swing that you wanted to take. And it's, I think that's more valuable for those kids to see that. And definitely happens on like the playground at school. But I think there are other ways to do that.
And you don't have to be at school to learn those things. That's fair. I mean, and I just was kind of curious as a kind of early question, what your thoughts were on that? That's cool.
So in a little bit of follow up too, you also said you have to follow up here on your like GTD lifestyle or your productivity, what I know we mentioned before, you were using things for personal use. And OmniFocus was personal, but now you're like switching away from it towards things. Is that correct? Yeah, so where we last left off, I had converted to things for personal life and OmniFocus for work life.
And this follow up is in here because I've been using things for a couple of months now. And I still like things. It's a very, it's a very pretty application. And I think a lot of it is heavily focused on the UI.
And with that, there are things that I miss like keyboard navigation. And things does have a lot of shortcuts and there are ways to get through things. But God, I would love to just be able to select a task and then be able to bring up like a tag entry and type in multiple tags. But that seems to be impossible without hitting, you know, space and to expand the task and then tab a bunch of times to get over to the tags field and then type in what you want.
Because the tags menu that they have only has, you know, like UI checkboxes that you can check and say like, yep, this task should have this check, this tag and this tag. And this tag was like, I just want a tag entry system. And I want to be able to select multiple things and move them around or indent them. And there are definitely things I miss about OmniFocus.
And I want to really bad to go back to my OmniFocus life, but I still love the separation of work versus personal. And knowing that if I open OmniFocus, I am working. And if I open things, I am not working. But I don't know, we'll see.
I'm anxiously awaiting the OmniFocus update. So I can jump into things or sorry, jump out of things into OmniFocus. That was a good one. I know.
So I don't know that is just kind of a little follow up here that things are still a great application. And when I originally got it, I got it for Alex. So thanks to the wonders of family sharing, I was able to install on my computer as well. So I still use it.
I still like it. But I definitely miss OmniFocus. And a lot of things that I miss from OmniFocus. One is the keyboard navigation.
Reviewing was also great, like setting projects to review at a certain time. There are things where things as much simpler. It's definitely not geared towards, you know, people who are kind of a little too meticulous about their tasks. And having gone through the OmniFocus lifestyle of being super meticulous about my tasks, trying to simply down is tough.
It's hard to do. Yeah, I mean, I've been in this situation before where you're trying to develop a solution that works for personal and work life. And it's tough because you get really good at something for one. And then you miss that sort of thing when you're in the other life, if you will, you know, and so I don't know.
Yeah, I'm also you're waiting on the Focus 3. So we'll see when that comes down the pipe, hopefully the next couple of months. And I'm sure you and I will have another discussion about it. Oh, definitely.
Cool. So I know this week you wanted to do a little kind of just a tech stuff episode. So I don't know exactly where we'll go. But we just kind of want to give a little update on, you know, where we're at.
A little, I know one of the first things you put in here, and I was just our latest kind of tech struggle. So I'm kind of curious, where does this question come from? There must be something in your mind that you're struggling with. So what's the struggle in Adam's life?
I'm going to be 100% candid with you. Is that when I was tasked with, you know, making the outline for this week, I just I didn't have it in me to look at the topics and do something and dig into something that was going to have like some homework behind it, right? Doing a little bit of research and that. So I was like, I don't know.
I'm still, you know, on vacation from podcast off or getting back from vacation. And just like with like my move goal and with work, like I didn't like speed right back into it. I didn't like, all right, you know, zero to 60, like as quick as I can, I kind of like eased back into the life, right? From vacation, I'm kind of doing the same with the podcast here.
So I really didn't know what to talk about. And these three questions I just put in there. So as far as struggles go, you asked where the questions come from. It just out of my butt.
That's where it came from. I mean, to be honest, it's where it came from. But I'll tell you what my latest tech struggle is. And it came up after I wrote this question down.
So that's, you know, trying to show you that there is no like, there is no premeditated, you know, topic here. But the latest tech struggle I have is trying to use an iMac as an extended display with a MacBook with two USB-C ports without resorting to a hub for display, ethernet and file transfers. Okay. So essentially what I want to do is have two USB-C hookups into a MacBook, one being power and one being Thunderbolt.
And then the other part of that Thunderbolt into an iMac, which is also running, you know, it's running its own thing. But then put that in target display mode and carry everything over the Thunderbolt plus for the MacBook. Like I said, that being the display, for extending the display, I want sound to also mirror over there as well, which we'll consider to display for it because that's the protocol that's going to use anyway. And networking.
I want a hardware connection going through the Thunderbolt bridge. And I have it working. But my struggle right now is getting the uploads to perform with a degree of, I guess, reliability or just, I don't know, it's actually an upload because the upload is so frickin' slow. And I don't know if it's a problem that I'm like taxing all the bandwidth on this, you know, on this channel, which it's 10 gigabits.
I mean, even if I'm going down to Thunderbolt 1 or Thunderbolt 2, even I don't feel like I'm getting choked on bandwidth, but there is a lot of stuff happening there. But I just don't know if I'm prioritizing the traffic the right way. So that's my struggle right now. Do you have any insight for me, Lou?
Well, first of all, I didn't even know target display was supported still anymore. I thought that was something that went away years ago. So wow, that's news for me. If you have a non-rena iMac, it definitely still works.
And I have a non-rena iMac that I'm trying to do it with. Got it, got it, got it, got it. Okay, so that's about the time I thought it went away too, because it was my thought that it was like 2012, 2013, this one away. But I guess the red iMacs were like, what, 2015, 2016?
So it's a couple of years off, but that makes sense. So yeah, that's a challenge. I'm not going to lie. But I don't really have any head scratching right at the moment, and I'm like, oh my god, this is your solution.
But that's a tinkering project for sure. I'm going to just kind of hijack you for a second here and say that mine is nowhere near as complex. But that I'm sort of in this inter struggle right now that is similar to your omnifocus versus things struggle between two pieces of software. And so my latest tech struggle is sort of between markdown editors and how I manage text.
And the two pieces of software I'm kind of dueling against each other are Ulysses versus draft's version five. And I mean, one is a little more casual, one's more formal, and one, you know, Ulysses to me is a very long form editor. Very, you know, I want to sit down and write something. It's great.
Don't get me wrong. And it's supported on the Mac and iOS. And so it's across all my platforms, which is cool. Drafts is limited at least at this point on iOS.
But in time they may bring it to the Mac. They just have said that, you know, that is the thought. And a lot of the backend has been re-engineered to support that. But and so I kind of, because I don't generally do a ton of long form writing, most of what I'm doing in Ulysses is half page or less.
It's sort of in some ways is overkill. And so I am re-evaluating my thoughts and could I survive on draft's alone? So we'll see. That's my inter-personal conflict right now.
So I have some questions for you if you're okay with that. Sure. For is this exclusively a markdown editor that you're looking for? No, I mean, so draft isn't always marked down.
I mean, it is something that, you know, you can do markdown with it. But I really like the triaging my sort of, you know, text and being able to kind of do exactly that draft something and then just pop it out to whatever application. But of course, draft supports markdown as well, which is useful for things like show notes, you know. And so, you know, I know there are free editors and things like that out there.
But I'm not going to lie. One of the biggest things that has impressed me with draft five is that the developer has done some work on the backend to, I don't want to call it hack, but essentially worked around, I think like an API that Apple has, where when you do voice dictation, normally Apple's software, like after like 45 seconds or something like that cuts you off. And so it's okay, cool. That's as much as you're going to take for now.
But the way he's developed the app, it extends that 45 seconds to unlimited. And so he must be like, you know, ending a parse and then picking it back up or something like that cleverly. I'm not exactly sure he's doing that. But that is extremely useful because there's sometimes where I can stop and think and, you know, I could be in a car or something like that and trigger it and just like let it run for 10 minutes and just, you know, collect my thoughts again, pause and then keep talking and you know, when I get somewhere and get out of the car, there's like a three paragraphs written about something I needed to reply to.
So I don't know. I really like that feature too. I think that was really innovative and big. But to answer your like question about Markdown, is it 100% Markdown?
No, it's not 100% Markdown for me. Okay. So it's fair to say that Markdown is definitely seems like it's one of the more important things, but you're also looking for other features outside of that because I'm trying to narrow down like, do you just need a Markdown editor or do you need just a full featured text editor? Yeah, I don't need a full featured text editor.
I mean, so I have pages on my Mac and that's not a text editor. That's that's a word processor. Totally different. I'm getting there.
I'm getting there. So I have pages on my Mac and I had, I had quote unquote word on my Mac and I recently let that quote unquote subscription expire and said, you know, hey, thanks, but no thanks. I don't want to pay the observant fees for for Microsoft office. But so, you know, I do want some ability to write a document in a text editor and have it convert to a word processor if I need that feature.
I'm not always going to need that feature, but I like the ability to triage in something as simple as Ulysses or drafts and then, you know, get to a word processor from there. But 98% of the writing I'm doing probably isn't something of that caliber level. And so that's why drafts is lucrative to me because it's kind of the most casual level of the writing spectrum. And then there's something like Ulysses, which is still sort of in the middle, I guess I would say, and it's a little more formal.
And then there's, you know, the highest end, you know, like word processing to me, which it would be silly to write anything like Markdown or something like that. And that you would have a real hard time doing it, but you could. And you would just, you know, I mean, to go to something like pages is just overkill for that. So for me, I don't know, I'm kind of my writing trends are headed more towards the casual side.
Okay. Because there's tons of text editors out there. And when I look at a text editor, I just look for kind of like all the round compatibility because I want a Swiss Army knife when it comes to text editors. I want something that's going to be able to handle everything that I want and actually don't really care too much about features because with text, I feel it's easy to take text down wherever, right?
Like you can bring up anything that will accept text input, and then you can toss that wherever you want. And most things, especially when you're dealing with text, it's pretty easy to import from one place to another. So as far as like your problem or your situation, the way I would solve it, this is just me projecting, is I would have like a workflow set up, right? Where I would either bring something always into this one place, like when I need to capture whether it be audio, whatever, this is how I capture it.
And then when I need to, you know, actually edit something for an email, this is where I edit it, or if I need to do something for like show notes, this is where I edit it. So I'm trying to get a feel for like what you needed to do to see if I could offer you any suggestions. And the short answer is like, I probably can't. I don't really have too much to offer you.
I know that there is a really good markdown editor that it's a guy I followed for a long time by Brett Turpstra. And he has that that I called marked, and it's very much for markdown. And I think Mark too, I forgot when this version came out. But Brett's a really smart guy and he's a pretty efficient, you know, programmer.
So I know that he's raved about this application. I hear tons of positive reviews, so I send it to you. But it might be something looking into especially with a nice little free trial just to try to see if like, that's something you might do for your markdown editing. Because for me, like, I like this was army knife because I don't care about all the features.
So I just want something that, hey, I need to write a bash script. Okay, cool. I can throw that in here. Hey, I need to write some Python.
Okay, cool. I can throw that in here. So I use BB edit for all of my text editing needs when it comes to taking it down everywhere. And then I use just the built-in notes app because I can say, hey, virtual assistant, take a note, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and there it is.
Or I can bring open that note and like you said, bring up dictation just starts viewing information. But I don't ever know that I've run into the 45 second thing, but I guess I don't have a lot to say when it comes to notes. Yeah, it's something that I will often say two or three sentences and then pause and think about my thoughts and maybe develop my next thought real quick. And there's things that from a time limit perspective, when you're speaking to these assistants, you generally have to enunciate punctuation.
And so you kind of get hung up on having to do that mentally. And so I hung up when I have to say new paragraph, new line, bullet, or just different things like that. And so being able to pause and think about that stuff as I'm saying, something is cool. And so I do use that stuff sometimes more when I'm doing something long form, which is going to be cool.
But it's not for everybody. It's just something that I enjoy. But I do have a question about your target display. So I guess I don't know that I have a lot to offer, but I do wonder what is the intent of doing this?
Is it just so that you have a bigger workspace to work on than the laptop itself when you want it kind of thing? Or is there some other hidden motive to doing this? I mean, I understand you have the 27-inch display. So my assumption is just, hey, I have a laptop.
It might be useful to take advantage of this 27-inch display that I have. But what's the motive? So really, it's a problem that I have because the laptop has only has two ports. So I got two USB-C ports.
That's what I got. And I need to make this work with two USB-C ports. So the computer that I use is the main computer that I'm using is the MacBook. So that's what I'm using day-to-day.
And I have this all my Mac and I'm like, yeah, I would love to use this as a screen. But I also use it as a computer. So essentially, what I'm trying to solve is, yeah, I have a MacBook that I use as my main machine, but I would love to extend that display without buying a dedicated display and without having to rely on a hub for something like more USB peripherals or file transfer between the other machines or ethernet. So that's really why I'm doing it.
There's only two USB-C ports, so I got to make the most of them. And it says I can do everything in that port. So I'm really trying to test that theory. Okay, so question.
You said two USB-C ports. So you said MacBook. So I assume you're me MacBook Pro. Oh, yes, I'm sorry.
I'm MacBook Pro. Okay, because I guess I should use a correct monitor. But it's a MacBook Pro without the touch bar. Okay, yeah, yeah, it's fine.
Yeah, the other podcasters of the world, what they call the MacBook adorable, but essentially it's the, that's the one port one. You're on the two port one, which is MacBook Pro, but it's okay. Which they call the MacBook Escape because it has a physical escape key. Yes, yes, yes, that's true.
Okay, cool. Well, that's understandable. Do you find a lot of the time you need more than the two ports in terms of, you know, you're at home and you're, are you plugging stuff into it all the time or is it? No, that's why I don't want to have to resort to getting like a hub.
Like I just, I don't want another thing that I have to worry about. If I can connect this one cable to this one other device and one cable to charge, like that's all I really want to do. I don't need the ports anytime other than, you know, when I want to extend the display. And like I said, it's, it's really more of a convenience.
Like I have Wi-Fi so I could rely on Wi-Fi for everything. But Wi-Fi is not the best when, you know, you just want something to work seamlessly all the time. Like everyone knows Wi-Fi can be flaky. And especially when you're in like an office setting, Wi-Fi can be particularly annoying because there may be competing base stations or it's a Wi-Fi that you can't necessarily, you don't have fine control over the signal and other variables like interference and noise as you do with like your home Wi-Fi.
So really I just need a wired ethernet connection and I need to be able to use that for both the iMac and for the MacBook. So it's really funny the way I've been doing it because I have ethernet on the iMac and then I have a Thunderbolt to ethernet adapter also on the iMac. So basically the iMac is getting two sources of internet and I set up a Thunderbolt bridge for the Thunderbolt port for the ethernet on the iMac to the ethernet or sorry to the Thunderbolt's USB-C so basically I'm like tunneling these, you know, thunderbolts over IP or IP over thunderbolt through this connection only for the thunderbolt over ethernet so I don't mess with the iMacs you know other port and mess with the internet there. So I'm getting, you know, IP addresses and I'm able to route traffic just fine but whenever I need to do any uploads it just chokes like crazy any upload to anything other than the iMac is just choking.
So I don't know if I have to specify like a default route to make sure that like I'm not you know just dropping packets left and right or if it's a bandwidth thing where there's just not enough bandwidth on the bus to support the upload like it's prioritizing, you know, download for everything and not really caring about the upload as much because okay you shouldn't have to upload that much but sometimes I do sometimes I have to upload a file to a thing that's not the iMac and it takes a really really long time and that's really annoying so I don't know like I said this is my tech struggle right now so I'm welcome to suggestions that don't involve me having to put a hub in between or resorting to just using Wi-Fi. Okay fair enough so the next thing here is a newest tech addition in your life so I don't know that you were talking physical thing in your life I assume but what is the newest tech addition in your life Adam? I don't have one. I don't think we got anything tech-related in a long time.
Yeah I mean your last big one was the iMac right didn't you get a new iMac? Yeah that's the iMac that I'm sitting at right now which is a 5k iMac so it's not the iMac that I'm trying to you know do this whole shenanigans with a Thunderbolt bridge with but that was the last big addition to the tech life and I'm like racking my brain to think of anything that we bought you know that's worth mentioning but there's nothing even notable that's been tech-related so I kind of want to just resort to you because I know you've got you know the cash to throw around like what's your newest one the cash to throw on a fire I mean I don't know the so the latest tech thing so I mean I'm not going to call this a hundred percent of tech thing but this is like a an accessory to my tech thing I'm trying really hard to change my my habits around wallet carrying I know we talked about wallets in an episode a while back when we talked about our daily carry from a pocket crew for life yeah so I I am trying to essentially what my work for has changed to was originally it was you know wallet in back right pocket phone in front left no case on it and keys and usually airpods in the back left so literally every pocket full of something and what I have kind of gotten down to is airpods in the backpack that goes with me everywhere the wallet now lives in the car in the center console with all the main cards in it if needed but with me is only the phone and an ID one credit card and one in the main debit card essentially so the car has like all the like Costco you know like those punch cards if you go to a restaurant and they're like it for lunch and they're like you know you get your punch for your 10 things and then you get your free item or whatever you know all those sort of just miscellaneous AAA insurance all I get jazz is all just kind of in the car and 99 percent of the time the car is with me so it's not a big deal but so I switched to and I'm trying the leather folio for the iPhone 10 and I'm giving that a whirl and I did it in the product red so that is something that I'm I'm given a whirl and I'm about two weeks into it right now and so far so good I'm pretty happy so I'm basically walking around with a folio phone case and just the car keys right now and that's kind of I guess I would say my newest tech struggle or sorry tech addition to my life physical I don't know it was probably I bought myself a pair of headphones a while back I thought yeah that's that's probably the last main one headphones probably which was I don't know two three months ago so nothing crazy but those were just something that that I guess you wouldn't even classify as a big tech addition because you're just a you know a headphone whore yes see I was hoping that you'd be able to carry this section because you know you usually have more toys than I do you really let me down and given me just a case as your latest definition is uh I'm not I'm not feeling too happy about that and yes yes I try a lot of headphones it doesn't mean I'm a whore like I said before don't slut shame me for trying a bunch of headphones to see what I like to my ears I can do what I want my ears my choice so just stop um let's see yeah so so I guess hardware wise I mean okay so let's rack like six months here real quick so I okay so I did purchase a home bod I have a home bod that that's that's in there um and going back I mean last year I like last year I got a new computer um but I mean it's it's been a while man like I haven't I haven't dropped any major I say major dough but like a home bod isn't cheap and neither is like an iPhone 10 but I bought one of those in September so you know I mean it's been a while though and since it like there's been nothing in the last like 60 days or 90 days that I'm just like oh my god I spent a ton of money and it was it was great so that tax return is burning a hole in your wallet and then uh then I'll see what you get no no no no no taxes are filed taxes are done and I have the money and I'm not using it and I'm a responsible individual yeah uh-huh sure you are yeah I am so I saw something the other day about like um it was something like 80% of Americans get a refund and that like something like of the 80% of Americans get a refund it was like uh something like 80% of those people plan on using it towards credit card debt because of course our country is in in debt all the time to credit cards and then they plan on using it for credit card debt but like only like 10% of people actually do follow through with that and I was like wow that's that's really sad that like everybody plans on it but they get this you know tax return of you know whatever a couple thousand dollars or however much money it is if you get kids it's going to be or if you get you know house or whatever whatever it is however much money you get if you get to zero or you get to 500 and you get some amount of money and they plan on using it for credit card debt but they don't I think that's really sad that shows our culture or they're alert they don't yeah that's definitely not me I uh I don't have to worry about that thankfully you don't have to worry about that you don't yourself student debt but you're not going to pay that off those are in installments there's no point paying those off really there's no benefit to that yeah I mean the interest rates on those things man they're like oh it's like questionable way that you should even refinance them because you're not even gonna get like that much lower it's like cool I saved seven dollars they're like five dollars each payment you know I mean five dollars over ten years I get it it adds up but at the same time is worth all the hassle of it probably not so I don't know yeah I usually throw a little bit towards that and and you know save save save it's worth it so Lou how are you diversifying your funds how are you investing your tax return well actually this year I guess I would say I'm not doing anything super um that was a joke man this is boring no one wants to hear this it's a tech podcast okay sorry uh I didn't I didn't pick up on that queue you got to be more literal with me a little more literal yeah um if you were going to say that you're using some AI you know to diversify your refund for you then that would have qualified but I'm sorry you should have seen the way I was looking because I was like twiddling my fingers together like mr burns you know from the Simpsons do you know the Simpsons right yeah like I know of them I don't know who mr burns is but I know like if you showed me the image of like Bart or what's his name Bart I don't know his name Bart anyway if you showed me like the graphic of the show I would look at it and go yes that's the Simpsons I know what that is like could you pick mr burns out of a lineup no could you pick Bart Simpson out of a lineup yeah yeah totally well so that that actually begs a good question like if you put like five of those animated characters next to each other I probably would not be able to pick up Bart but like there's something iconic about the like theme or the style that the Simpsons is drawn in and so like of course I can look at it and go like oh that's the Simpsons just you like you can look at like you know buzz light year and and say like oh that's that's you know voice story you know it's like there's a theme to Pixar and the way those movies are created and I don't know you just pick it up but you don't even need to have necessarily seen the movie if you've seen the poster art for it well yeah there's a visual style right and they very much follow the Simpsons and then Future Rob is the other one also by Matt Groening who they follow the same style as the Simpsons so those characters look very similar maybe that's something I'll do I'll pull together all of these you know like mugshots of characters from the Simpsons and Futureama and see if I can have you identify which ones are from Simpsons and which ones are from Futureama and I can guarantee you would probably like lose that's a that contest I mean I'll give you the robot one because I want to probably be easy to figure out which one that is but maybe I'll do that that sounds like fun that I'm giving myself homework and I don't like doing that but maybe I'll have to do that yeah give it a whirl I'm I have no clue what I'm in for but give it a whirl anyway so get your tax return you bought a case most recently you got a home pod oh the one thing I was going to say is you were you were shaming me for having so many headphones and I neglected to say that I did get two new speakers recently because they were at Costco so I got some Yui Wonderbooms just a little you know sphere like speakers that don't sound amazing but are kind of shockproof waterproof everything proof mainly just stick to the beach because the weather up here has been getting much nicer so it's now time to bring on the weekend beach trips every weekend so I needed a speaker that if it got wet or if which this has happened before actually if we camp out too close to the the shoreline hands a big wave comes up and starts you know cascading over our chairs and towels and umbrella and backpacks and everything I want to make sure that the the speaker that's playing us nice little beach tunes doesn't go on the fritz so I need to point that was waterproof so I pick up a packet two of those at Costco and just have one in the house just because they came in a two-pack man so like why just buying both you know Costco ones in the house and the ones attached a little beach right that we have so it just goes with us whenever we go to the beach so I guess that's what it was tech edition that I have is a speaker so don't shame me I know it's not a headphone but it's still technically a speaker and yes that's the latest thing that I've gotten nice okay cool that's uh I've seen those before those are kind of cool they seem um the price of the point that it's like I don't want to say disposable but you know what I mean it's like it's it's it's an easy like impulse buy you know what you're getting you're kind of getting a decent speaker that and the fact that it's like essentially going on quote life proof or whatever you want to call it you know it's like it drops if it gets a little wet and if there's some sand on it it's probably just going to keep working which is nice Bluetooth speakers are nice right they're very convenient and that's the thing is I have Bluetooth headphones right I have a pair of AirPods I have a pair of you know over your headphones I have a couple well many too many pairs of Bluetooth over your headphones but like you said it's nice having that convenience and something that you can just toss wherever and not worry about it so before we were taking kind of one of the other Bluetooth speakers that we had that we actually kind of cared about right it was kind of a design that we liked and it was it didn't travel outside of the house that much so having something that can be dedicated to just travel outside still give you at least decent sound is kind of stretching it because these things are very small they don't carry a lot of a lot of range it's a lot of high tones not a lot of mid tones and not a lot of bass it's very washed out and but it's Bluetooth audio and I just need something for the beach and I'm not looking for like audio file quality at the beach I just want something to you know drown out some of other noise of other families or just kind of step the mood for being you know with your family on the beach like just have something to do it's great to listen to the waves so I'm not saying you don't run it all the time but it's nice to just have a little your own little beach party and like you said having one of these things that are at a cost point that or a price point that is low enough to consider like yeah cool that's not a lot of money and even if it doesn't sound great awesome it's still life proof I can still throw it on the ground and not worry about it it can drop in the pool and not worry about it so yeah there's something to be said about that but audio quality not so great but the convenience of having sound anywhere you go or having a way to outfit sound anywhere you go is is very nice and you know it's funny this kind of brings up another thing is I was going through and looking just at the Bluetooth connections that I have set up and I don't know if you've ever audited that list blue like just in your Bluetooth like connections settings like on your phone but I have like six or seven things in there and two of them are like okay one is the AirPods that's going to be on there the other is the watch so that's definitely going to be on there but then I have like the car I have this speaker I have that speaker I have these other headphones and I have another Bluetooth speaker so I have a number of Bluetooth connections and I never thought I would have this many so I don't know if that's the same case for you but my uh my list is growing substantially yeah so um this is a really funny topic actually because I if I recall correctly Bluetooth has a limit on a lot of phones so like eight what isn't that simultaneous connections though oh that's sure I think it is simultaneous if you're I don't I don't think it cares about like how many connections you have stored for like automatic pairing but yeah Bluetooth only has so much bandwidth I don't think you can connect more than a couple devices at the same time and still expect a decent amount of quality yeah you're totally right and the other thing to consider too is like Bluetooth 5 is like 5.0 is like knocking on the door man it is like shipping in some devices already and you know I mean I understand the other devices we have in our lives are going to be straggling along for a couple years but I mean that certification might like actually change um that that simultaneous connection amount because it's becoming more common but um so yeah I have the watch as well I have a um BTEX and then I have my AirPods and some uh studio wireless I have four right now um the car is not hooked up because I have car play and it's wired so I just plug it in um so I don't have any connection there but um I definitely know what you mean it's it's it's funny because if you if you asked you know 2012 like hey do you think we will ever be at a point where you will have four Bluetooth connections on your phone I would be like no well I'll never need four things I'll need one pair of headphones and maybe I'll need to pair my job phone or you know or whatever fitness tracker thing that I had at that moment but it's just so funny because times change and now we're in we live in a different world and I could easily see like 15 five years from now because my shirt and everything else will be connected well and it's not just headphones either right but yours and my setup they're they're very much headphone heavy or speaker output heavy right but there are people who have like uh bike computers right I've been looking at you know getting a bike computer a cycle computer for the setup that I have in the garage and that's another Bluetooth device and then there's other heart rate monitors that you can get and that's another Bluetooth device and then there's like scales and sleep sensors and those are all Bluetooth devices and I guess I didn't really I didn't realize how pervasive Bluetooth was just in the quote unquote internet of things um space but yeah just all these sensors it's really easy and cheap to put Bluetooth in them and Bluetooth LE without was a huge step forward you know getting these devices to run for days and days and days you know without having to be charged all the time man like I'm in the same boat as you I would have never thought that I would have on the verge of 10 Bluetooth devices paired to any device at any given time I would not have seen that coming yeah it's uh it's a surprise to me too and I don't see it ending like I said it's uh it's something that I think will just continue to grow because it's just getting better and better and I mean even the range is getting better at this point I mean I remember like even like Bluetooth 3.0 and I mean I'm sure you remember 2.0 but you know what I mean like just two versions ago it really was pretty bad I mean you could be in the same room or something but you did set more than that like what 30 feet I think was this back or something like that or maybe it was 30 meters I don't remember but either way it was pretty bad if you were if you stepped to the bathroom outside of your office or whatever with a pair of headphones and then or you stepped to you know the laundry room from your bedroom your house like through one wall and it was done and today it's like man I can with 4.0 and like range improvements and you know 5.0 is supposed to be even better it's like I go all around the house it's a magical day as we live in technology man it's everywhere it's always changing not always getting better just trying to improve my quality of life while also dragging it down at the same time it's just she's a cruel mistress she definitely is so any plans for new tech ventures in the future or on the horizon for you mr Adam um so I guess new tech ventures on the subject of education I need to take some more crash courses in various languages just because I I'm kind of stuck or I don't want to say stuck but I've kind of coded myself into a corner with you know what I'm doing in my job and kind of in my personal life so I need to kind of expand my repertoire of you know programming knowledge and languages so I think for me the name of the game for the last half of the year is going to be like brush up on more programming like just start getting a little more heavy into it and learning more languages so booting up that treehouse and kind of jumping into a couple languages there and I think that's going to be kind of a big focus for me and no particular reason like I said other than trying to find better ways to solve problems right it's you can get to a point where it's like oh man I need to solve this problem and you can do that with one language and let's say it's the language you're comfortable with but to do that you have to kind of jump through hoops and do workarounds here workarounds there and it gets kind of messy really quick whereas like hey maybe if I knew enough about this other language I could quickly you know deploy something here and do this and I think just having that flexibility would be beneficial to kind of my personal life as well as well as my professional life so I think that's kind of my next tech venture is kind of more programming just a crash course in a breadth of different languages okay do you have like a short list like is there like a top three or anything that are kind of peaking your interest um I know I need to brush up on JavaScript it's I don't say that's like a top you know a want to do but I definitely need to brush up on some JavaScript I kind of want to get into Swift more because I took you know just kind of the intro stuff when when switches kind of released and when Apple released with playgrounds I messed around with that I kind of want to you know dig into Swift a lot more so I'd say JavaScript Swift and then I actually really want to get into the market language for Docker and other virtual machines which is what YAML I think is what it is or however different answer but YAML so I actually really need to get into that too so I think those would be my top three just because that covers a pretty large area right JavaScript is a lot of web-based you know programming as well as you know you don't run some server side stuff with that but that kind of covers the the front end aspects some Swift for kind of you know the core level just items and just general knowledge in terms of like I guess uh I don't know I'm not just with on Linux too like that's that's always gonna be my interest so maybe I'll start getting into some of that and then the Docker stuff just because nowadays it's so nice to just be able to spin up a virtual machine for anything that you want to do and especially with like home bridge setups and web server setups and talking about like our SFT server right I want to move that over into a Docker container and I just want to kind of move a lot of stuff into virtual containers rather than actually running on a server full-time 24-7 so YAML will definitely help me with that. Okay very cool that's exciting um I I want to especially YAML I've never heard of YAML so knowing a little bit more about that would be would be interesting I want to once you dive into that I want to think your brain may be a little bit. YAML eat markedly.
Um well as far as new tech ventures for me um and I so I'm at an interesting inflection point where it really really looks like you know probably the next year a lot's gonna or year to two years things will probably change quite a bit um in the sense that I think um you know like it's it's no surprise I'm gonna go point my life where I think it's time to consider settling down and um so a lot is going to change but one of the things that I guess I would say like I am maybe eyeing is um as you know I've been doing that the whole cycle bar thing and um it's been going well I like it um but there's a couple drawbacks to one you um you have to go with the classes when they when they set them you know it's it is what it is it's a gym you drive there you you pick the the class that's available you know at your time and there's a fix the amount of bikes and schedules and and things of that nature so it's what it's taken up it's taken up that's it you know there's there's no um you know getting in you jump on the wait list or whatever and wait and that actually does happen because there's only a few really good instructors that a lot of people like and so getting you know good talent is hard and the the other thing I find is that the schedule is sometimes demanding or or doesn't be your schedule you know it's like oh cool we're gonna have like a class at you know eight to nine a.m. in the morning on a Monday well that may not work for me or maybe they're their last classes from five thirty to six thirty it's like that may not work for me there and so it can be hard um to sometimes fit that in and so I have looked hard at maybe considering down the way here a Peloton which I don't know are you familiar with with that name at all I've heard the commercials I've seen all the stuff so yeah I've it's um it's um it's kind of I don't know that I would say it's kind of like the Tesla of I feel like have like worked out at home it's like you know uh the way their services that they do this like you know white glove delivery kind of thing where they bring to your house that I love where you show how it show you how it works but the premise is that the cycling bike um for you know use at home um I think the big kicker for a lot of people is that it still requires a subscription so it's not something that you buy the bike and you're done um the the bike is of course not cheap because it's a piece of technology in a sense that not only are you buying a bike but there's like a I don't know it's probably like 18 to 20 inch monitor like right in front of your face all while you're on the bike and it allows you to um you know basically jump into classes that are being hosted in their studios in like I think it's like New York um I don't know if they're doing it in London and in like LA or something too because I know two people that have these and and I've been able to look at the quote quote quote app that they have and the app that they have is is I mean it's just really cool because you can there are classes that are as little as 10 minutes long and there are classes that are as long as 90 minutes so there's options but you know from that short to that long and the other thing that's really cool is that the classes are offered all the time there's essentially like any time of the day you can think of there's pretty much a class that will fit your schedule because of course it's much easier to host a class when you know you're just based out of a place and you get good talent in a big city but you're hosting that around the world and the number of people in the class isn't capped so a lot of these classes have like a thousand people in them or something like that you know and and so you're really pushed against a bunch of people but I don't know it's it's just a on the horizon it's something that I am I'm interested in in looking into more so you remember how I said your tax return will be burning a hole in your pocket and something this is what I was talking about man this is exactly what I was talking about because believe me I've looked at these and I'm looking at the website again right now and it's awesome right you talk about the classroom going virtual well this is like the gym going virtual right where you basically take it to a point where you can hop on anytime you know hop on with other people or just hop into a pre-recorded class and get a variety of different things all with one machine I definitely see the appeal trust me I am frugal as fuck as you like to say and I have a cycle trainer that is oh man a fraction of the cost that this peloton is but if I had the money and that money was burning a hole in my pocket and I was looking to getting more into I think this is definitely something I would do because one thing I've learned over the last you know six months is that it helped us pretty important and you feel a lot better when you're when your body is you know feeling healthy and you're in shape so if this is something like I would fully support you throwing money at this because it's for a good good reason right it's not a frivolous purchase it's kind of like a it's an investment in yourself right you're putting that money essentially back into you and that sounds really cheesy but I think you should do it because I kind of want to use just as he was like yeah so I mean there is a degree of you know consciousness in my head that that says I kind of I don't know I'm a numbers person so I do like a cost-benefit analysis or whatever you want to call it like that whether it was the other term swap or whatever like strong strength weaknesses that I don't remember the other yeah I was like if I paid a dollar a day you know and it how long is it gonna take me to pay this off and is it worth it for me to pay a dollar a day for x number of days to pay this thing off that's usually how mine goes yeah so so you have to consider like what we're paying for the membership we have now and you have to consider that I we're essentially double paying you know between me and my girlfriend we're you know it's two two of us have to go and so this would essentially save us even with the subscription you know you deduct out the subscription that you have to pay which is 40 bucks a month it would be saving us around 160 bucks a month in GM fees so when you start to like you just said no this is a no brainer just buy it now like you have the money from your tax return just buy it pay it out right and pay the 40 dollars a month you know for the classes and as long as your girlfriend and you don't want to do work it at the same time which it has no problem for my wife and I because we're like yeah you work out to your thing I'll work out to my thing we don't have to like watch each other you know work out and lift weights or cycle like that's not a thing so just do it that's awkward but yeah so yeah yeah I mean and that worked out really well for me because you know you bring up that point and it's it's something across my mind of course but like when I think about it and honestly I prefer to work out at night she took her to work out in the morning you know so it would work out fine so it's something that I guess I would say it's on the horizon it's something I need to get more thought to and it's something that I'm not 100% committed to yet but there's a time and place and if it comes man I'm I'm pretty committed and I think I can get her to see the the end of the tunnel and the benefit to it but and the app is like super cool there's so much data and stuff that comes in and of course it like connects to everything and it's a cool concept so they're they're definitely on to something with this Peloton thing so I definitely want to you know when we have our house something kind of have a a little home gym you know just a little a little me place where I can do that just like you're doing doing you know I definitely want that so I'll probably go to Ikea or Home Depot or whatever and buy some hard flooring that I can kind of snap together easily and and make my own little home gym yeah man I think I think you should do it if they support multiple users definitely do it yep yep so that's that's uh that's my tech venture down the line I like that because it's it's techie but it's also not techie so that's a very good one cool I'm glad I you know came back from my newest tech edition with a solid newest tech venture what I mean I say I'm pleased because it's something that you don't necessarily think of like mine's boring like yeah I want to learn you know some more programming languages like okay fine like whatever everyone wants to do that that's fine but when he games like oh I want to you know get this connected cycle that you know does these classes and is very tech focused and data sharing focus but like I said it's more of more of a focus on you and mine is a focus on me as well but not a focus on my my physical well-being but more my mental I guess well-being but like I said man it's a good pick I definitely want one so I kind of little envious right now because I'm too cheap to buy one mainly because of house renting right now I wouldn't have a place to put it and I feel like something this nice like I would have to have like a dedicated place to put it so like you said getting you know some some actual hardwood and putting it somewhere and having a dedicated room because right now you say like the dedicated exercise room for me is the garage and the garage also holds all of the other stuff that we have holds all of the tools it holds all of the bikes it holds the car you know so it's very much a shared space I would love to have my own dedicated space and that's probably when I would look at something like this bike but that's not in my cards right now I'm looking in tiny homes right now so when I look in a bigger home or live in a bigger home then I'll probably jump on the bandwagon after I get to take her for a spin wait so you said you look in tiny homes you mean that in the sense that like you don't live in a tiny home I haven't actually been to your house so we live in a small we live in a house a small house very very tiny okay okay this is a small place square footage but it is not one of these like random homes you see on you know the home the what channels the home network or whatever but HTTP that is and I was I was banking on the fact that you would not know what a tiny home is because you don't watch you know television or pop culture but this happens to be like the one time that you knew what the actual tiny homes thing was it's like no I'm not in a shipping container like in the backyard of someplace right although I have thought about that for like an office that would actually be kind of cool or even for like a gym right um oh man that reminds me is there was a really come with it is is AC yeah as long as it does right I don't know hotboxing yourself in there might be good for you but there was something I looked up that was essentially a container that they had converted into a home gym or like a home office so I was like oh you know what that's perfect because that's something you can literally just drop down there it doesn't need to be fancy it doesn't need to be super insulated it just needs to be a place away from you know the main portion of your house where you can do all this sweaty nasty dirty stuff or you can get away and you know do work or what have you so I've definitely looked at those things and I think they serve a purpose but to answer your question like no no I would not want to live in a tiny a tiny home I need to stretch my legs and I don't want to have my kitchen also be my dining room also be my bedroom like that doesn't appeal to me especially with a wife and three kids yeah so uh I have stayed in a tiny house so that this is why I know of this gotcha yeah sorry I know that was kind of confusing so yeah we're looking at tiny homes like you mean like those little like shipping containers or you talk about like a 800 square foot you know house for all of your family like no no no no no no no yeah yeah yeah I stayed in one new slash it was very tight for a guy my size I'm you know like I sit up in bed and hit my head on the roof so on the loft yeah like oh dang it yeah oh oh god and like there's nothing like saying I mean you're innately familiar with my size I'm a big dude a dude my size should not have to climb a ladder to get into bed it's probably unsafe so that's so true though I mean you say that but the you know when people picture like a t-rex making a bed you know with his tiny little short arms yeah that's kind of what I envisioned if you had to climb into a loft to get into your like tiny home bed yeah it was uh it was quite comical um and um you know the best world was that you could sit on the shitter and take a shower at the same time because the shitter was like in the shower essentially so it was like oh man in experience I've said I've done it and I don't think I would do it again and um I mean I don't know like I'm not against the idea of a tiny house um but like the tiny house we stayed in was the tiniest of the tiny houses and you know I think the blurred lines of tiny houses can maybe get as big as like 500 square feet and like maybe that would be okay but it would still be tiny but we were morally more in the like 160 square feet yeah so it was it was pretty tiny no tiny home yes yes um so I guess we have a a little bit of exciting news on our eyes and you want to uh share yeah so uh we've been doing you know this tech podcast for a little while and it it's a great way you know to keep in touch with you and it's a great way to kind of like get an outlet of all like my tech woes kind of out into the ether and just kind of bounce ideas off of a very large audience right like taking that social interaction and taking the virtual so it's it's been great for me but the one thing Lou that you can't give me is you can't give me any dad humor and you can't you know I can't tell you all this about my kids and have you relate to that in any way shape or form and that's a part of my life so uh the exciting news is that we have another podcast that is joining our little family here and it is aptly named casual dads so casual dads will launch in may so uh beyond the lookout for that we'll update the website with everything but it is with myself and the other host we have is Phil and Phil is a guy that I've known and worked with for a couple years now and he is a newer dad his daughter is I don't even know how old but she's not not old enough to be two I know she just turned one not too long ago because we went to the birthday party I should know these things but hey too casual so he's kind of a newer father and with me having three kids there's definitely a lot to talk about and we kind of fill our our podcast with a bunch of dad jokes and just kind of sharing our experiences as dads and being that I'm pretty casual and he feels like he's sort of casual we kind of just keep it cash and have a good time chatting about dad stuff so if you're a father out there and you kind of like talking about dad stuff take a listen to the podcast like I said we'll update when we have everything in place but the website will be casual dadcast.com I like it I like it yeah I mean I'm excited I'm excited just to listen you know I mean no kids yet but I have a sort of a nephew and so that's through my girlfriend I have a nephew if you will but he's three and he's he's a ball of fun and it's just kids are fun and some of the things that they come out of their mouth sometimes you just I had a good story this week where my girlfriend was driving him somewhere and she comes over the freeway and you know the unexpected things kids say he just says oh my god and he's like three years old and she wasn't expecting him to say that and clearly he had heard it from mom or dad at home and she was really surprised that he used it and she said what and he said look at the traffic and he's three years old using it in the perfect like sense and everything kids are great you can tell the parents have driven with that kid in traffic one too many times yep welcome to southern california that's true there's a lot of traffic there yes there is so it was it was a comedic moment for sure and then there's you know great sweet moments you know he he can't say my name so he says he calls me mr woo um like as in it's w-u um and um but you know we did sweet moment not that long ago we read uh at chick-fil-a having lunch and he was he was just kind of like I love you mr woo and I was like oh thanks buddy oh that's so nice kids are great until they're not and that's kind of what we talk about yeah you gotta be able to give him back right yeah you're you're talking about the rosy sides and we don't talk about the rosy sides uh yes very true very true well I look forward to that cool well uh I'm happy to have you back and um we'll we'll definitely get in our normal cadence again of uh recording on a weekly basis and uh I would say to the listeners just uh keep uh keeping on the website because uh casual dads will uh be launching soon are you really happy to have me back lu or is that just a lie that you told people uh no i'm happy i'm happy i don't have to scissor edit the entire podcast so there's that too oh that's a burn i don't know man i did a lot of clicking a little bit you know so we'll see if that comes through yeah click clicking clicking i'm not so concerned about like if you're keyboard typing or clicking like i mean i get it like sometimes you google something and then block ass or something like that so your keystrokes are really quiet if you if you ever do it because i've i haven't really ever heard you do much that way yeah it's that uh that low travel on those uh those magic keyboard twos or whatever they are yeah what you've learned about me is that i have not a creative strand in my entire body dude it's rough man like like some people have to be at least a little creative but it's no man like it you just you can't there's like some yeah that's a block i didn't get the gene like it's kind of legal you know past i'm a very literal person like i have no creativity i can't draw i can't paint i can't be creative with writing style or anything like that i'm a very black and white facts person and so yeah it's like this episode's about education