036 Shut Up & Listen: A Grandma’s Masterclass in Grandparent Connection with Kathy Healey

In today’s episode, Rivers sits down with the unstoppable + deeply devoted Kathy Healey — a grandma who made connection her superpower. Kathy reveals: how being able to show up (literally) became her legacy the insane story of holding her granddaughter’s hand through the NICU from hour one why most grandkids aren’t asking for lectures…they’re asking to be heard how to connect even when you live in different states why tiny consistent gestures (like a 60¢ stamp + a handwritten card) become magic later the #1 line Kathy wants every grandpa to tattoo on their brain: Shut. Up. And. Listen. This episode is funny, bold, and surprisingly tender. It will make you want to try harder — gently — without pressure. Key Takeaway: Grandkids don’t need a perfect grandpa. They need a present one. And the doorway to their heart opens when you quiet down long enough to hear theirs.   Link to Kathy's book: Nan's Alpahbet by Maryjane Spillane Record your life story with Planted Media Co