044: It Depends on My Mood

Guess I should say that um, you know, I will my July movie. I'm gonna be honest I don't even know what it was at this point. I didn't watch it I don't know what I'm gonna get to it because there's only two hours and 59 minutes left in July That's about the length of a movie though. I mean well considering recording time I don't know that I'm gonna be able to get wait a minute wait a minute This if this is the hobbit one that I'm gonna like tell you're gonna have to watch it Let me pull up your movie list.

I have to do it now Well, you pull that if I can say that I I did watch orders, so I I'm on board there and Oh, man, those people got problems I don't I don't know that I'm like uniquely inspired inspired like after this to just go clean. That's not the case I would say but there was a part of me that was like I guess I should say I don't want to deeply but There was a part of me that was like man. I need to like dust some stuff or something Yeah, just tidy up a little bit, you know, like baby steps. Yeah, exactly like it's like a car lover Like I didn't make me want to go wax my car, but I definitely want to wash the car You know or something.

Yeah, it was like oh man. Oh just any amount of dust then was like oh that's too much dust You look in the kitchen or you have some like clothes on the floor. I'm such a slob Yeah, and that's that's what really what it is and the more you watch like the more you're challenging yourself So it's almost like medication, you know, like you just challenging yourself. You're going through therapy You're just getting better So I'd say if you kept watching it and if they had a digital orders episode I would totally produce that and film you you know like all right Lou you just have to drag us the trash can Just one thing just one thing.

Oh, I may want to watch this cat video later though It's like blue just drag it to the trash can just you have 18 of these cat videos You just have to drag one to the trash can come on That reminds if you ever see I know I'm asking you a movie and you said you haven't watched movies recently But did you ever see for getting sir Marshall? Yes, I have seen that one So there's a scene where he's like looking at all the old pictures and then Bill Hader goes up and then presses like command A And then delete. Have you seen it? Do you remember that part?

Yes? I do. I do remember that part I do not remember the actor's name. Oh, yeah, so so funny cuz he's like no Screaming Totally picture you doing that to me.

That's like exactly what you do there. It's done. It's so funny because like I Guess the closest person to a hoarder that I've lived to in my life would be my mom and my mom's not really good with paper She keeps a lot of paper around and more paper than I'm ever comfortable keeping and so I'm the extreme opposite Like I throw away every piece of paper that I you know it's it's one of those things like you take with you from childhood, you know your parents did this so you're not gonna do that or whatever and Paper is one of those things for me and she was so bad with paper and I was always like when I was young I was just like look I can solve all of this for you every piece of paper in this house is replaceable I promise I don't care if it's even a social security card all these like birth certificates all these important papers people keep You can get it back and I mean granted. I don't throw away those items from myself But at the same time I was like she was like what if it's in this sack or whatever You know and so I would always just be sort of a command a delete kind of mentality I'd be like look there is a dumpster on the side of the house and if that's not big enough I'll get another one and we'll just throw it all in and guess what it's all done It's done You don't have to worry about it You don't have to because she would always be trying to find some piece of paper She knew had something on it and she could never find it because she had the equivalent of like probably five Dreams of paper, you know laying on a desk or something and I was like God mom So yeah, that was the closest orders I got But see you can't you can't just come in to delete everything like that's the problem, right?

And from watching orders, you should know this like hey We just can't get rid of all of it like you have to work through the process same thing with your mom So I do want to so I gave you a couple orders episodes to watch and did you watch those specific ones? Yes, I did watch those specific ones. Okay. What did you think about the bucket situation?

So, I mean, I don't know I That was kind of like for me that was like one of the worst ones Bad that one was like that. I mean they all are bad in their own way. Don't get me wrong like they they have some The one the one that I felt was like the nastiest and more for emotions was um, oh God. What was there?

What was her name? you know woman she moved to the south she had got a ton of purses and stuff like that and She I'm looking at the name Teresa. I think it's her name So she got a ton of purses and she was like almost like mean to her kids like and the kids were trying to help her out And and be like hey this person can be thrown away or whatever and as soon as the crews left She was she was just her nasty like and just turn on the family And I mean like that is the type of person like I don't care how bad the hoarding is that's like a toxic human being Yeah, it's rough like these people you like you said they have some problems and you know sometimes it's hard to watch But oh, so okay, so as someone who's seen a bunch of these do you have like of the episodes? I watched what was the one you felt was like the worst I mean the worst one is like when you're dealing with human waste, right?

Like I'm sorry, but if that's and that that woman clearly you know was not fit to live on her own anyway Right like there was she definitely needed some assistance just and did it a tasks, you know and processing things So I think there's something bigger going on there, but yeah, man. Those are the ones that are the worst the the pet hoard ones are really bad I don't think I included any of the pet hoard ones, but when people have like 20 something cats Something crazy like that. That's when it's those are the hard ones to watch any human waste in any cat ones No, so I've heard of the the cat ones or any pet ones where they really sort of Find like a dead cat in the house and the person doesn't even know that there's a dead cat or whatever because they've got so many of them They don't even realize that one's gone missing or something. It's more like they found like three or four dead cats Yeah, but yeah And the other thing too is like the cats that they they capture or that they you know Recover from the house a lot of them have like infections and you know breathing issues and some have to even be put down It's like jeez man.

I know you thought you were taking care of all these animals Well, like you were slowly killing them and that's when they say that to those people too It's like whoo, it's it's brutal. So those are the ones that I can't do No, so on to have your things the movie you were supposed to watch for July was saving private Ryan Well, that was I went from dark to darker. Yeah, so I'm actually safe to say you can skip that one because I think you've already watched it before Yes, I kind of have this is one where I've definitely seen the first I think the first part of the movie is the first part of the movie where they come up on the beach I'm assuming so to be honest. I haven't watched it in private Ryan I have no intention of watching save a private Ryan, but when you said you had watch more movies or you know that kind of stuff That's why I threw it in there.

Yeah, so I mean I'll give you the background and save a private Ryan for me like the it was one of those things when do you remember when like Projectors were starting to come into houses where people could like actually afford to buy a projector This was probably ten years ago or more now and I don't know I think it was my dad's friend or something like that got a projector and so he had like a hundred inch TV screen in his house and he hooked up like surround sound and stuff like that and He was like hey, you know, you should come over and check it out And so we went over and check it out and the best thing he thought to put on the hundred inch screen was saving private Ryan So I think we watched like half of the movie or something like that and there's the scene where they come up on the beach and you know, he's basically working his way up the beach and You just hear bullets, you know, which is going past the camera and and essentially him because you're looking through his eyes pretty much And it was nuts and for someone who was I was actually just like probably 15 years ago now or something like that I was pretty young it was like whoa war movie like, you know, that was kind of a lot for me to process at that time But I appreciated the like Ron is that the film had so that was that was cool. Yeah, so I've never been a big fan of like war movies in general But there's a podcast called hardcore history and they talk about like World War one and some of like the the retailing is from people who like Journaled about what it was like there and yeah, man, it's it's intense like it really makes you think about, you know Why that is the last option, right? It's like when all diplomacy has failed. This is what ends up happening because this is horrible for all parties involved So yeah, I'm okay with these kippet like not not a fan of war movies.

Don't need to don't need to watch them More so because like I don't have the stomach for it. It's just it's intense and even hearing about it gets me like kind of worked up So no, I don't need to watch a visual medium of a retelling. So okay, so since you have my list in front of you What is my obvious movie since that's tomorrow? So your obvious movie is it man, which is a foreign film About a martial artist wait, do I have to watch like some titles in yep, you gotta read subs But it's a great martial arts movie and it's with Donnie N is the actor and it's about it man who was the one of the trainers for Bruce Lee So it specializes in a very specific style of martial arts called Wing Chun.

I think is the correct term. Yeah. Yeah, so it's It's a very good. It's a good movie because there's lots of it's a good martial arts movie So I know when we created this list was like, hey, here's all the different types of genres You know, here's one that I think you like from every genre essentially So this is kind of you're dipping your toe into that So give it a watch and just know that they're doing all of these crazy, you know, stunts themselves, and it's pretty pretty awesome Okay, so is it safe to say this one's more action?

I guess there's still some drama to it Just because it is kind of a biography of this person's life or retelling almost So there is that kind of some drama that goes with it But there are very long drawn out sequences of a fight fighting so it kind of breaks it up nicely Like you'll have some slow periods where there's some plot building some character development and then it's like hey, you know What you know, it's the best way to build some character development. Let's just you know fight each other It's like yeah, that's that's good. I like that do that Nice. Okay, very cool.

I will find a way to fit that in in the next 30 days But probably soon in that and we'll talk about it since it's something you've definitely seen yeah cool, so this week something I wanted to talk about a little bit was music and I know For you Adam music is definitely a big part of your life in terms of both making and consuming music So the everybody knows you love to make music and I think everybody knows that you love to consume lots of Taylor Swift in your ears So I guess I want to kind of start sort of broad and we'll kind of dive down deeper and deeper But I guess when do you prefer to listen to podcast versus music because I mean I'm kind of gonna separate the two and I know that you and I both do a podcast and therefore we listen to a bunch of podcast But when is music time for you versus podcast time? So I I don't like to treat podcasts as background noise Never have never never really enjoyed that because the podcast that I listen to the ones that I subscribe to there Once I actually like want to get some information from or actually want to actively listen to so when I listen to podcast It's mainly on commutes. So like when I'm going to and from like let's say on the bus That's usually when I'll turn on a podcast when I need to work out or when I need to just kind of get into the groove of something Right like emperor, you know emperors new groove. I just need to get into my groove That's when I turn on music So music will be like throughout the day like if I'm working or if I'm programming or if I'm doing something that I can kind of just Put on music that will kind of get my feet tapping.

That's when I'll use music over podcast It's something I almost treat music more like background noise But I don't want to call it that because I am actually listening to the music and usually it's music that I've listened to many times So it's like I'll put on like a favorite tune for like kind of getting into the groove of something So I don't know if you've ever had like the coding highs Right, have you ever you ever participated in like a long session of coding where you have a coding high? And you just like you feel like you can solve any problem and you just start coding like crazy for what seems like three hours Right, usually like I'll turn on music and that's when I get into to kind of like that coding high and that's what I want to keep that going So music mainly for working out in that but podcast for all the dull times where it's like I'm not doing anything So I might as well like learn something. Okay, so the way I kind of summarize that And I think we're pretty similar in this way is that it's kind of works music works Sort of inverse of your like cognitive load the more cognitive load you have the more you mean to its music versus a podcast You really are kind of devoting your attention to is that kind of fair to say? Yeah, at least in my case I want to dedicate the time to podcast because I feel like if I turn on podcast when I'm doing something like you said with that requires more Cognitive power then I don't feel like I'm retaining enough of that podcast So usually then I feel like it's wasted time like I'd be better off, you know, serving up music that I have listened to before now I'll say this is that new music totally throws that out the window that relationship out the window because if it's something new I want to listen to that with zero cognitive load I would rather listen to like a new album With nothing else on my mind because I want to kind of absorb that the way it is because then you start to appreciate it And then you kind of pick out all the things that you do like and the next time you listen to it You've already kind of I guess absorb most of it.

So I'll say new music is the exception to that rule. Okay All right, well, I think that's we're fairly similar that way I think the new music thing for me is a kind of a discredit like I don't really separate the two Podcasts are definitely something I do while driving still but especially if I'm sort of if I've got a think or a process or write or something like that If I can't do something sort of passively at the same time, then I'm gonna switch to something more like music where I can It could just be that background noise. I'm kind of like you podcaster for the most part Something I want to devote my attention to and there are a few podcasts that I might slip up a little bit more and be okay With it being more background noise if it's sort of lower on my rung or of podcasts I need to listen to if that makes sense, so but there's a good grip of them I'd say I want to give my hundred percent attention to but So the other thing I kind of want to bring up is and I think this is kind of important is sort of how the medium has changed over the over the years I mean so music itself is is not vastly changed but that the way we consume it has changed immensely and Of course, I think everybody knows we're by most standards fairly young still and so In our lifetimes, we haven't been through as much in terms of the way of mediums, but At least when I was around like when I was very very little cassette tapes were kind of still a thing but really as we started as I started to get to like an age where I could You know even go to the store with my parents and discern artists and things like that like CDs were the thing And so I kind of really pretty much grew up around CDs because it was like five to seven years old when CDs were kind of getting big And so I'm kind of curious for you Adam. You're a couple of years older than me Do you remember having cassette tapes and that kind of being a thing or was CDs the thing for you?

So when I when I listen to music on my own it was definitely right around the the time the CDs were becoming more portable and more accessible So I'll say that when I first started listening to music It was always in the car with my parents right that was usually what we listen to or I'd have the radio FM radio in my room, you know with a little clock radio So that was it and then it wasn't until CDs that I got into everything But my mom definitely had like these really cool This really cool cassette player in her car and it had like the the track detection where basically you could fast forward And it would fast forward through the tape and stop at what it assumed were silences or breaks between tracks So it actually had like a pseudo quote unquote like track skip function for this cassette because that was the one thing I was annoying about cassettes right as you'd have to fast forward and hope you got to the right spot Otherwise you'd have to rewind and try to get to the beginning of the song But her CD player had some like really cool thing where I basically would just seek ahead until it found a silence like just zero way form And like oh, this is probably the end of this track and then we'll wait till the next one So it was pretty cool. It got wonky at times like you could tell it wasn't perfect So it would assume tracks based off of you know when you started the tape or when you rewind the tape all the way to the beginning So it would count and if you got it like throw not just a little bit the count would go up So it's like this is tracks five and it's like well, no, this is actually track three It's just you skipped it, you know, you miscounted a track twice so good for you But uh, that's really funny. I mean that's pretty well That's something I've never even heard of that, you know This sort of thing where it gets like skip tracks for you and it had some degree of logic to it But um, that's really cool. Like I mean it seems for the time it was probably like extremely innovative Oh, yeah, like that was at the towards the end of the cassette age So this is when they're like, oh, yeah, see CDs I know they got this like track thing But we can do that too.

We got this like we can totally do this And it's like, well kind of but not really but um, I definitely got into CDs So I got a CD player. I remember I had like this big stereo like 3ds CD changer Which 3ds I was like, oh my gosh like this is amazing And the the very first CD I got was the Mortal Kombat soundtrack from you know, 1990s So I was a pretty hardcore kid in my room listening to Mortal Kombat Okay, cool vehicle. Um, the one I can remember like I think so I got a CD player I don't know. I was probably seven or eight and um The one I the first CD I can really remember having on that was that was My own was like blink 182, which was really edgy for like, you know, my age Which one 82 album though?

Uh, I don't even know the album. Do you ranch this along with the bowl in the nuts? No, it's uh Where's the one with the lady with the glove? I think it was black and with like green and yellow and red Let me let me google.

Oh take off your pants and jacket. Oh, come on man. That's wow You're not that much younger than me. Oh, man.

Um, let's see here Let's take off your pants and jacket if it's it's yellow red and green like a stoplight Um, okay, so no, no, it's the one with the glove. It's totally the one with the bottom of the state Okay, that makes more sass Yep So that was that was the one that I got first and I remember that being sent like my first one and everybody was like You have a liquidate to my parents were like, I don't know They just didn't seem to limit me that much that way. They weren't like okay You can't have that because it's a little edgy for your young years Like you know, whatever so it was fun that atom song on there is kind of depressing for me It's like oh it's the song. You know, it's my song is all about uh suicides.

It's like oh, well That's depressing Yeah, but I do remember playing around with my um, my parents like vinyls and stuff like that even before that but it really wasn't like super common and then I mean it was really only like five or six years into CDs for me Like I mean I was like I got to the age where I could afford them a little bit like my parents I wasn't really paying for them, but my dad would always he had a rule that he would go to the record store Like once a week and he would get a new CD himself and I could get one like once every like couple weeks or something like that So I would always try to get something but I mean what it was like 2004 2005 or something like that Like I think I started getting an iTunes, you know, it was uh the iPod was out and and I had one of the like second or third generation ones And everything was digital at that point, you know, it's it's crazy. So and and today I mean we're kind of Quote unquote sunsetting even that we're like it's going to just streaming now, right? Yeah, man So I remember you know, you mentioned you had ipods or you had CDs for a hot minute And I remember the first mp3 player that I got was a del jukebox So it was like the del version of the iPod Uh and it had this really weird like instead of a click click wheel. It was like a scroll wheel It's just like a big mouse, you know with a display and it clicked in and everything too It was uh pretty crazy and you didn't use iTunes with that You used um like music match jukebox or something like that Some crazy crazy program But but still with those right the the difference there is like most of the time there You'd still buy the cd because I didn't have an ip3 player in my car and I didn't have one at home Right like I just had you know the the stereo that I had and I'm sure I could plug in, you know Uh 3.5, you know millimeter jacking to the mp3 player and then put that through the stereo But the cd was still a better quality and I could take that, you know with me everywhere It didn't require, you know the batteries or whatever So usually the cd would either stay in the home stereo or in the car until I finally got a you know A cd player in the car that would support um mp3 discs and then that was all the rage for all of two years So but yeah, I mean like now Physical media or like purchasing media even it's like who does that?

Yeah, it's crazy um I definitely remember kind of being like DJ in the car because like I'm driving and you know I was the you know music person and so I would have like You remember those big like binders that were like CDs, you know with cd sleeves all in them And I mean I think I had like 64 CDs in the car at any time and you know I would just I'd be like all right, you know, you want to listen to this song from this album Okay, hold on give me a second Let me flip to that one and grab it prepare it What song is it on this and you know eject the cd and in it goes and you know get us to that song and then you know What do you want to go to next, you know? Did you ever have a car with like the multi cd changers right the ones where like you had that like because that that came out And you could just shove you know like ten CDs in there or eight CDs and put it back in there Did you ever have one of those? We had one of those and the bad part though is it was in a trunk So you could load it up but you would have to load it up in a trunk and so you couldn't like stop but you mean You couldn't I guess you could try to do it but stop like good luck, you know It was like so you I think it was like six discs and yeah, you could control it all up front But you couldn't change anything while you were driving right right? Yes, it's like you pick your six favorites, you know and put them back there and you rotate like every three months Yeah, pretty much pretty much so but anyway today.

We're at streaming and I mean even streaming has been like a journey in and of itself I mean, I don't know about you, but I started with like Pandora Pandora was like OG streaming for me If I don't know if that was the case for you. Yeah, so um I went through my phases right where I would still download everything But in terms of like streaming Pandora was definitely like the foray into quote-unquote internet radio So I guess if you want to call that streaming where you just basically choose a song and then let it choose a station like yeah sure Yeah, I mean I think that was kind of like the start of it because you didn't own the content and it wasn't really downloaded It was streaming to you and granted we weren't really paying for it I mean you were the the product again, but at the same time Yeah, I think that was kind of like the beginning and then the really the first one that I can really recall kind of like catching on that I was into was It was called RDO or whatever, but I know this is one I think you were big into if I recall correctly Oh, man rest in peace RDO. RDO was my favorite streaming platform You know really quickly like Pandora is internet radio And I don't consider radio like streaming because the whole point of like streaming was stream whatever you want on demand Right and with Pandora, it's not so much like you get to pick what you're listening to you're just tuning a station Right, so I never really counted that a stream because it's like, okay Well, it's basically like they just have a bunch of radio stations And I get to tune into those radio stations for free and listen to ads It was the exact same model as radio At least when it debuted right and before that like if you want to call streaming, you know media then we're all streaming through the radio That's all it was we had no control over it. That's why I was like I kind of marked the streaming Like starting point as the ones where I could choose I want to listen to this whole album and stream this whole album Right now without downloading it just as soon as it comes out, I want to be able to stream it Or listen to it.

So that's when I consider the streaming start. So RDO was what I consider my first foray into actual streaming music Okay, I mean I understand the delineation you're going for there and I think it's okay Um, so then I mean, I don't know but you I delved into Spotify for a little bit Mainly because they kind of grew past RDO and RDO. I don't know they got shut down acquired I don't even really remember what happened to them, but they just went away and they had all the polish in the world Don't get me wrong. They're the product look 10 times better than Spotify has ever looked But um Spotify went out and I mean it was really big in Europe I know for a long time before it ever came to America and they really seem to have like The the playlists are like on point they're on point in terms of um, you know, the like curation And so they they won over in the long run, but uh, did you ever jump into the Spotify bandwagon?

I was on Spotify for two months and on the student plan and I could not get into their their apps and their UI It just it felt like a chore to pull up and listen to it anytime So I I was never big on the Spotify. I think I switched from RDO to Spotify at one point time because Spotify had a cheaper plan for students and then I went back to RDO very quickly and it's like Please RDO don't go and then RDO eventually, you know ran into the ground and then I think I switched to Apple music at that point Okay, that you know, that makes sense. I mean, I think you know Apple music's only been out a couple years now and you know, it's um I really feel like it's it's sort of neck-to-neck with the Spotify in a lot of ways and I mean Polish-wise it's just nice that if you have an iPhone, it's integrated so there's a lot of perks when when it's on the platform So, um, you know, I think uh They they both have their advantages and their disadvantages, but it's kind of where we are today You've got the two top dogs of Spotify and Apple music, but um, so I think the next one or sort of question I wanted to like turn to is um is one that is very different for everybody in a lot of ways and so um I think depending on your hands are very different based on what you're doing too and that's okay if it does But are you a fan of somebody curating a playlist for you or would you prefer to curate your own playlist or create your own playlist? So yeah, it does definitely depend on on what you're doing.

Um, I I subscribe to a couple curated playlists Um for things that I don't want to I guess invest a lot of time in trying to create a playlist for So like one of them that I have is like a yoga playlist because like dude I don't have a bunch of yoga music in my library I don't want to go searching for a bunch of music that I think yoga is going to be good You know or pair well with yoga, so I'd much rather go with a curated playlist or something like that Um, but I'm a big fan of smart playlists like I don't really do a lot of here's my playlist right? I have maybe one or two like creative playlists Um that I actively listen to one is for workouts and the other is for I don't know something else But I'm a big fan of smart playlist so even my shuffle like I don't go to my my like just library and say shuffle all my songs I have an actual smart playlist set up which is one of the kind of nice things about Apple music Is um I have the smart playlist that basically says like anything that hasn't been skipped in the last three weeks And anything that hasn't been played in the last week and it sorts it all by the last play date So basically you get what I consider like a better shuffle where you don't get repeats as often because it's taking the date that It was played versus the date that you know, it thinks you want to listen to it or whatever Uh, there are some caveats there like it really only works with desktop iTunes Yeah, man, curated playlists are there most of the time amiss for me and creating my own playlists That's a lot of work and props to the people that you know, we'll actually go and and do that But I'm not a I don't have that much time I I don't I don't take a lot of consideration into putting this into a playlist and putting them in the right order and seeing how it's going to flow Like I don't really do that. Okay, that's an interesting take so one I guess we're definitely very different here Um, I definitely rely on curated playlists a lot because I don't have the time to do the self-grated playlists kind of like you said I mean hands down to the people to do it's just not my thing and um, I can't do that I can't sit there for that long and just Think through, you know, why this song goes to that song and like, you know, things like, I don't know beats prevented And really this is a great workout song or whatever That takes a lot of mental effort and it's something that I can't do but um, and then there's a piece of me that kind of you know, I either Run between curated playlists or I will sometimes Sort of DJ, you know, like I just kind of throw in darts at a wall Okay, I want to hear this I want to hear this and I usually stay at the same genre, you know when that is happening I'm not all over the place But you know, if I'm in the mood for R&B, I'm just calling out R&B artists and usually asking for that to be played and so I'm kind of Point-blank just thinking of something at the top of the head I'm not a big fan of shuffle just because my library is so eclectic and so big that it will just weave me through Everything and it just isn't my thing or my cup of tea So curated playlists for me are kind of like a go-to because a lot of times I'm usually Into something like like you said mental cognitive load matches a lot of what I'm doing So if I'm working out, I want something, you know, fast piece per minute and it's sort of upbeat either like, um, you know, pop rap something like that if I'm Doing something a little more about provoking or reading or something like that classical or something like that or piano Aren't kind of my go-to so I kind of move all over the place when it comes to um How I listen to it? So you mentioned shuffle right?

Audio had like the best shuffle because you could shuffle your whole library and Kind of like Pandora in the sense where you know, they would give you like a station tune to you Audio when you shuffled your mix it would go through your library But play like three songs kind of from the same genre and try to transition genres like without you knowing So it would try to play something like heavy metal then something rock then something alternative then something pop Then something like pop with rap artists, right? Then rap and then try to like gradually transition you into these different areas of your library And that was one of the things that I definitely miss about audio is turning on their shuffle was awesome because Their shuffle was very much kind of like Pandora's too where when you came to something like, no, I don't want to listen to this right now You could thumbs thumbs down it and basically the next couple items in the shuffle would reorder and say, okay Well, if you don't want to listen to this right now, then we'll pick a different genre from the from your library and shuffle some of those songs So that was how like a genre based shuffle that would just cycle through all the genres in your library And kind of give you like a sampling like a taster of each one, which is like, ah, that's the shuffle I want That's that's what I that's what I need in my life Yeah, I'm definitely on board with that that that mentality works so well So all right, so the next question is are you sort of music 80d Or and what I mean by that are you the person that like skips a song halfway through or is sort of all over the place I mean, I'm guessing by how you said you like are you a shuffle that you're not Or are you the person that is like, hey, you know what? I'm listening to this album straight through like I listened to an album for an album and it tells a story And so I'm listening from track one to track 12 and I don't really jump album to album So most of the time like it really depends like if I'm on shuffle obviously I'm gonna skip through stuff And if it's something I've heard before like I'll listen to the part that I want to listen to and then after that I have no problems shuffling through something I don't consider that like 80d like I can't focus on a track But I definitely skip around what I don't want to listen to something But most of the time when I listen to music I'm usually picking an album and I'm going through the album Because I'm not a big playlist person like we mentioned so if I'm not shuffling it's going to be albums all the way through Um, that's just kind of the way that I like to to listen to things and I do listen to the whole album I don't pick like three songs out of the albums like oh these are the elements I'm adding to My quote unquote library so the elements I'm gonna listen to like no I'll listen to the whole album and if there's a track I don't want to listen to you I'll skip it But most of the time albums straight through interesting. Okay, so yeah, this is another area you and I differ I don't do album all the way through I do more genre and so everything is like I'm gonna stick the same genre that I'm removed song to song to song artist artist artist I may hit one artist to hit like three songs across a couple albums So genres is a big thing for me.

Um, I do I hate music ADD when someone skips a song in the middle of a song that drives me nuts I want to complete a song or at least get to the point where it's like, you know The last verse has been sung and it's on its way out You know, it's like don't skip in the middle or get like a minute in and then skip that that drives me nuts So, but yeah, it's uh sometimes it's a struggle, but I have listened to some albums straight through But it's a rarity for me to listen to an album straight through and to try to get like the bigger picture or the message It's something that I do sort of sparingly and when I know that there's a good message to it or something I have to be able to devote more brainpower and cognitive load to it So that's why I don't do it too often Well, and this this kind of goes it depends on the artist too, right? So some albums are maybe to be listened all the way through and you can argue that every artist kind of puts everything in a You know quote-unquote logical or how they want the album to be formatted But there are songs that actually tell a story from like one song to the other Especially when you get to like classic symphonies, right? Like you have to listen to that in order otherwise you're not getting kind of the same the same feel, right? Like it's not the same story that's being told unless you listen to it in order But I think a lot of stuff these days, I think it's more often than not where It doesn't matter when you listen to it, right?

Because they have their one hit and they're like, okay, that's it, you know, like that's fine But there are albums that that I have that have to be listened in order And what's funny is we also have this for podcasts, right? Where you know, sometimes you can take a podcast and just listen to any episode you want and kind of pick up in the middle and Go from there and other podcasts have to be listened from one to the other So I actually do have a playlist for a podcast which is uh, this is kind of going off of the music track But uh, the playlist that I have is called literally serial You know, because serial is a very popular podcast But the playlist is literally serial and it includes all the podcasts that I have to listen to in order And they're ordered from oldest to newest podcast So that playlist will just show me all the podcasts I need to be listened to in order But I I think now I should probably do the same for for albums or like at least throw all the albums into one playlist that have to be listened to in order because I can think of a couple up top of my head and one is by a metal band called Atreyu And they have this whole song and it's a story about this guy getting bit by a vampire And then slowly turning into a vampire and like each song is kind of like a stage Like a narrative in that story. So that's one that I actually want to listen to Like in sequential order. So I I think for most of the time you're fine like shuffling an album even but there are those rare occasions But they are rare I don't I want to say like you have to listen to an album But that still you know goes back to my whole thing like new albums have to be listened to sequentially in order with nothing else playing Just so you get the whole experience and then after that you can fuck with it however you want to Yeah, so I mean I really wouldn't peg you as much of a like a rap fan and I'm not I would say super big in a rap But I would say oftentimes when I am gonna listen to an album straight through it's in the rap genre That I do that But I think that's just because oftentimes there's more of a story to it that I hear at least I'm sure there's a lot of other genres and I'm like grossly overlooking stuff But I know a lot of times Like the latest album that I listened to straight through when it came out was jz's album 4 4 4 That one I I listened to and it was it was interesting You know to just hear almost like an immaturity and someone who has like grown up and how his life has changed and he's He's having to think about like raising kids and like you know providing for his kids and a life after he's you know You know gone and what is he leaving them legacy wise and it's it's very interesting to hear sometimes an artist go through that like mentally But um, but yeah, it's cool.

So um anyway So we've kind of blurred this line a few times and I think I kind of answered the following question but About you know, hey that I like certain genres for what I'm doing and so Sometimes like worked out. I'm listening to one thing that's um, you know a certain style versus you're something that's cognitive taxing Wise I'm listening to more like piano or something low-key How does that sort of change with you Adam or are you somebody who's just like, you know what? Like it really doesn't matter if I'm coding I can listen to you know I try you versus like hey, if I'm you know doing something else I can listen to trade too Does it really change much for you or is it like it doesn't really matter? I think it all just depends on your mood like I don't think the task is what determines what I want to listen to It's more like how I'm feeling determines what I want to listen to so To answer your question like yeah, I can listen to any genre, you know during any task It's not going to dictate what what I'm gonna listen to I may like lean what more towards one or the other but it really depends on my mood like If I need to like get up and moving then I'm gonna put on some heavy metal It's like if I'm you know wanting to cool down then sure I'm gonna put on some classical Uh, but yeah, like there will be times where I just want to listen to something like stupid and funny You know, so I'll turn on something like that or there's times that I want to listen just pure robot noise at my ears So I'll turn on something like dubstep, you know, it's like it really just depends on how I'm feeling at the time It's not the task that that determines that interesting.

Okay. I will say though that there there is never a place for country never a place There's never a scenario where country is a genre that gets shuffled on my in my ears No country can dine a fire and I know there are a lot of people out there who love country But I hate it. I hate it. I can't do it.

That's funny. I mean country is a tough one for me I would say I don't often listen to it. I don't have none of it in my library, but It's it's sort of a rarity for sure But yeah, I mean it's interesting that you say that it really depends for you Just what you're feeling because for me, it's so based on what I'm doing what I'm listening to so just interesting to hear that So I guess the the question I have to kind of look ahead a little bit towards the future Is like what do you think music looks like in services and everything or the future? Like I know we've talked a little bit about AI on the podcast But like do you think more AI is really going to be kind of the next step to kind of Match us to the right music or what do you think where do you think it goes from here or have any like parting thoughts?

Well, I think like if you talk about the future of streaming services, it's like hey, you know, give me higher fidelity over lower bandwidth You know, please do that like that would be awesome Because streaming being compressed like you can start to tell especially when you listen to albums that you really love and appreciate Is very easy to tell that things are being compressed and I would love for them Not to be compressed and I would love to be able to stream that anytime and no title I'm sorry. I don't want to pay you a bunch of money for that. So Jay-Z, I know you have a new album I know you got kids to support and everything but title. No, thank you Um, so I mean I think in terms of technology the future is always going to be how can we get you know less You know fidelity loss or less loss fidelity and into lower bandwidth scenarios to stream easier So I think that's always going to be the future of how you get streaming media You know kind of ubiquitous everywhere with like CD type quality or lossless type quality But to answer your question about artificial intelligence I mean like any term of you know or any type of machine learning that computers are doing with genres I think once I start analyzing things for these per minute and for instruments and they start isolating out things I think you're just gonna see better personalization right where I mentioned already I had this really great shuffle Where shuffle through you know genres and stuff like that, but I think you get to a point where Your shuffle would very much be based on your mood and I mean if you want to get into crazy connective future It's like hey, you know what I see that you're doing a workout right now I've already tuned up a workout mix for you and I see that your heart rate starting to drop a little bit Let's you know bump up a song that's a little bit faster to kind of get you back up to where you are And I can see tons of things playing into that right where you're very much tuned to at least for me Right?

This would be my future because as we mentioned, I'm very much how I'm feeling dictates what I want to listen to So I think once you get into that like hey, I was going to create music We talked about that before where they're going to know all about music and they're gonna make their own pop songs Which is kind of scary and it doesn't sound that great yet But uh, I think we'll get there and I just think personalization is going to go through the roof Right because the more I guess the better or the more the machine knows about the song or the instruments or the the rhythm or the beats Or just everything that they can gather and learn about this and all the data crunching that they can do It's just going to mean that they can serve you up more recommendations like hey, we know you like this Here's a really similar thing. You'll probably like this too So I just think that personalization is going to be the future of of what music is like you have people now curating playlists But that's a person, you know putting together a very particular set of things I don't know if that will necessarily go away But I think the AI part of it was like hey, you know what like here's all the stuff in your library Here's a great, you know overall mix of what you have and we've aligned it and categorized it in a way that we think will flow nicely Based on you know everything that it knows. I think that's where it's gonna go Yeah, I think AI is the next natural step and um, you know when you brought up I really hadn't even thought about it as just sort of fidelity of the audio and compression, you know That I think will probably be really nice when it gets here. Um, I mean Is this such a funny one for me because I'm not sure I'm going to notice a massive change to my ear Because I can't really discern the difference between I guess I would say like CD quality and you know anything higher But um, I know audio file for sure, but that being said Um, I'm always a fan of like hey, I can stream hours and hours of content and use less data doing that That's totally cool I think that that's really kind of a great next step if we can get to that point Um, where that is the case and you know, I mean I think the other thing that's really gonna be big is sort of like collaborative features You know, we're seeing some of that with the streaming services but as more and more and more and more people get on these sort of platforms being able to easily sort of Um kind of get some like social cues without it turning into like facebook 2.0 and music Is um, gonna be I think important because it's really cool to sort of discover what your friends are listening to and what you're listening to and So music is shared, you know, so I think that's kind of like Common next steps I guess I would say yeah, I think you know when you listen to music with other people like That's always been hit or miss for me, right?

Because I mean like you and I are friends, right? Like you and I have very different tastes in music So there's a lot of times when I look at your music here I'm like really that's what you're listening to and I'm sure there's time where you look at my it's like really that's what you're listening to And I have to say that it's pretty rare and maybe this just goes to me not Following or befriending enough people with my same taste of music But I've always found it like tough right to to give music recommendations And I always did like how um, audio does it and now Apple music does it where they kind of put like just the icon of the person Or one of your friends who's listened to the album So if you start listening to an album and one of your friends has it has a little, you know Circle or icon next to it. So I was I've always liked that So the more they do with like the passive part of it like you said not creating a facebook 2.0 We're not creating a social network around it But at least you know just giving subtle cues that you know, this is something that your friends are also listening to I'm all for that. Why not?

Yeah, I think those subtle things are nice. Um, so anyway, we'll have to see what It comes to in the next couple of years. I mean, this is a fast-moving industry It seems like you know, we move from because that tapes the CDs the iTunes the streaming services in just like 15 20 years So, you know, it's uh, it's not very long in the tooth that will probably be you know kind of taking the next turn towards whatever's next So anyway, that being said, do you have anything else to say on it before we wrap this one up? What's the your current like favorite album that you're listening to right now?

Oh god, like whole whole album? Yeah Um, man. I don't know that I have a favorite at the moment. I'm just thinking you know, the one that is so funny to me is That it's kind of made it made a comeback.

So I'm actually looking forward to their album It hasn't completely dropped out only the single house, but um maroon 5 was never a thing I was like never a fan when they were big five 10 years ago and I feel like I was in high school or middle school I don't probably high school. Um, I wasn't a fan of their music But they're some of their new singles that are coming out. They're really good But as far as like whole album that I know is out right now imagine dragon's album It's probably like my favorite right now. Oh maroon 5 everything Maroon 5 like I'm anticipating their album because I I the single I like at the moment, but like album wise imagine dragons Okay, cool.

I'm just curious like I didn't want to say like anticipation I'm just kind of like what's like running through like on repeat for you, but you don't even listen to albums That's kind of a bad question. So yeah, well. I mean the question should then be turned on you. What do you listen to?

Yeah, so Lately it's been the new panic at the disco album. Like that's been kind of on repeat in our house for a little while now That's pretty good. Yeah. Yeah, it's not bad.

I'm you know It wasn't too long ago. They had like another album before this right or I guess I should I say they was really just you know one guy now But yeah, it's a good album and then outside of that like I still have my metal stuff that I'm kind of churning through and uh There's a span that I really like called august burns red and just today actually I uh I downloaded or added to my library one of their their earlier albums, which has been remixed and oh man This new mix is so much better than the old mix and just rediscovering that album is freaking awesome So I'm really enjoying that. So those are probably the two. I know I cheated, you know and picked two instead of just one But those are the two that are on repeat for me.

All right. All right. That's fine No worries. I'll give you two because you know I kind of picked half of one.

Yeah, it's a half of one Um, all right cool. So uh that pretty well sums up music for us, but um, I guess in a little bit of wrap-up I just got back from vacation today and um, I I went north to visit our Canadian friends So um, Adam, do you do you know what what's in Canada? I saw this question and I'm like, what do you mean? Do I know what's in Canada?

Like there's people there's no there's moose There's Canadian Mounties like there's a country. I mean what be more specific. What do you mean? Uh, there's a brand in Canada.

Uh, go go tell me what it is. What is it? Lululemon. So your favorite brand.

Yes, um, and I forgot to add this so you asked if I had anything to add in I totally did so go ahead and tell me your Canadian lululemon story or lululemon story and I'll tell you mine Okay, so well first of all the um The exchange rate is extremely good. So, um, let's just say I can shop lululemon for 30% off Which you know, hey makes the shorts more reasonable. So you know, uh, I picked up some shorts while I was up there and like two pair of pants And so yes, I spent some money with our Canadian friends and this is sort of like Vancouver where I went is like the mecca That's why the city where they actually like founded it. So there's like something like five stores in Vancouver It's a little ridiculous, but yeah, we only ended up going to Two I think of the stores, um, we just happened to be walking past Both of them at different points.

I mean We knew what was something we wanted to do, but we we stopped and yeah, it's it was kind of like a mecca They literally do um So they serve I don't know if you've ever done kombucha, but they do kombucha on top there They also have like a seamstress in store like fixing clothes if there's anything wrong with your clothes You just bring them to her and she um We'll go ahead and you know fix them because remember I said there's lifetime warranty on them So if they can't fix them, they replace them. So yeah, that was cool. It was an interesting thing to see So, uh, I was recently the last week I was just kind of walking around Um trying to kill some time because one of the one of my kids was at uh like basketball Open gym basketball for an hour and a half So I was walking around with the other kids and there was a lulele mall pop-up store So I was like, huh, all right I've never stepped foot in one of these things in my entire life and I know that luleu loves luleu So I'm going to just walk in here So I walk in here and there's no one in the store and the salespeople immediately like jump on me like hawks Like how you do it today? I'm like good and I just want to come from the beach So like I'm wearing, you know, just kind of like just a regular t-shirt I have board shorts on sandals and my legs are covered in sand You know, and I have, you know, two kids with me and I'm walking around the store Like how's it going?

Anything I can help you find today? I'm like, no, that's cool. I'm just browsing So the first thing that they have is just this rack of hoodies and I'm like, okay hoodies Like this makes sense, right? So I go up there and I feel the hoodie and I'm like, oh, this feels like, you know, like almost like a windbreaker slash hoodie And so then I turn and I look at the tag and you know, I'm kind of looking at sizes and I look at the price And I kind of sit there and I'm like, oh my gosh, really?

$128 for this hoodie and I'm like, $128 Now, when I asked the guy about this, I'm like, you guys have any like sale prices? He's like, no, no, not right now. And I was like, so 120 bucks for a hoodie, huh? And he's like, well, they last forever and you know, they do have a lifetime warranty So, you know, you can always come in and you know, repair them whenever and I'm like, okay, cool Thanks.

So they start walking around and look at your shorts and I find the short, right? The THE short and I'm like, oh, here's the short, here's the short, and I'm feeling your shorts I'm like, you don't wear those out in public, do you? Or those are your workout shorts? I've been wearing them for the last six days, dude.

I have like four pair of them, remember, five pair of them? And what, how many inches are you, the 11 or the nine or the, what are you, what are you? Well, I'm definitely in the 11 club, dude. I'm not about sport in the thigh.

Nope, I am not doing that. So retail is about what, $58 for a pair of shorts? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Wow. That's not horribly overpriced. Like I've definitely paid for shorts that are around $30, right?

But I will try not to do that ever, you know, unless Costco has some crazy deal on shorts. But so the other thing though, is they definitely do have a sale rack or they have like, I shouldn't say like sale rack clearance rack, I guess I would say. The only thing is everything is spinal sale on it. So you got to be a little careful, like make sure you're not going to like, you know, bite as a gift and someone needs to return it kind of thing.

And usually it's sort of like the styles that are going out and they do have outlets that, you know, they, they like send stuff to you if it doesn't, you know, make it off the rack. But I mean, so you would do really well with the sale racks, because you're sort of like mid average guy, you know, size. So there's a lot of like medium large, like sizes on those racks. There's very little small and there's very little like me who's like XXL.

So yeah, there's, it's hard for me to shop off those racks. And I get really lucky if I do find anything on them. But on those, you know, something like a, like I think you said the jacket was like $130 or something. You might be able to find it for like 89 or something like that, like 30 or 40 bucks off.

You're not going to find it for like 50 bucks, but it will be on sale more and more, you know, if you catch it the right time. So one of these days, my goal is to find something from Lulu Lemon that I would actually put on wear and then put that on like a wish list or like, Hey, Lou, when you have extra money, you want to spend and you want me to have a good time and you want to talk about something fun on a podcast, just send me this article of clothing. I'll wear it and I'll review it with you on the air. Yes.

This is funny because like I have to like cross between like something you would be completely uncomfortable in versus like, no, I want you to be comfortable in it. You know, so it's like, I could buy you the three inch in scene Lulu Lemon, which you can only get online, which like at that point, I don't even know if it's covering everything. So, you know, we got to be careful, but I don't want to send you those because then you're going to hate your life. So, you know, I got to find the right like five length for Adam, you know, how much you buy with the nine, man, like that would be showing some leg and I could get by with that.

But normally like my, I think mine are like 13, I want to say. Yeah. And then you got to really like think to like, do you want liner lists or do you want liner where it's I don't want a liner. I don't want to net holding my junk.

Is that what that is? No, no, no, no, it's not net. It's more like a piece of, I mean, it is like holding you in, but essentially you don't wear like boxers with it at all. You're, it's essentially like a, it would be like wearing like spandex boxers underneath your typical shorts.

So, it's like having a pair of like, you know, compression boxers on underneath because essentially they're like compression and then you've got the like short on the outside of it. I mean, you just got to like go into a store and try those two things on and tell me what your preference is because there's a nice part to it and then there's not a nice part to personally, I'm okay with having the the liner when I'm working out some like if I'm doing span man, yeah, liner is cool because I don't have to worry about being in boxers too and everything is just like when I'm done, I rip that whole thing off and go shower, you know, but it's a something that I can understand. I don't like netting in my swimsuit. So I'm with you.

I'm just going to give you my dimensions and let you go ham. Yeah man, don't be afraid to like interject or laugh every once in a while. You're so, you're so, so robotic. All right, I will try to be more human.

It should be more human. I'm sorry, but there are only so many times that the country people can be happy and sad and they're either partying all night and drinking too much Bud Light or their tractor won't start and their dog died and their girlfriend broke up with them and they're just miserable and I couldn't care less. I totally need to go to like Lululemon at some point and try on like five inch shorts and I need to send you a picture in five inch shorts. Yeah, yeah, that's right.

I told you do that a long time ago. Does it make five inch? Oh my gosh, they make three inch dude. I know you said the three inch ones and I was like, that's that's not enough.

They're online only, but yeah, that's I mean, dude, I don't even know that my junk will be covered with three inch like gosh. So I just went to their website and they're just a big butt on the screen now. So that's great. I heard about the sale back.

I was like, you got to like try it on. Like, there's no return. I was thinking the outlet. I'm sorry.

Yeah, and the outlet is the same way. Like everything is final sale. So it's like, yeah, yeah, it is too. That's full poop.

So this is why you get to respect for me right here. This is why.