This. It was so funny. After last week, I went to the Wirecutter and I. I was like, you know what?
I might give this, like, yoga thing a try. You know, Adam does it. It's gotta be worth, you know, a little bit of my, like, mental sanity, because once again, copycat. Just like, oh, Adam does it.
It must be, like, decent. Like, I'm not. I'm not your wire cutter, you know, like, that's not how this supposed to go. I don't get paid to try things out for you.
Sure you do. I mean, you know, I mean, if you just want to send me your Amazon affiliate links, you know, I'll just. I'll pay you. You're gonna try everything first.
I mean, it might come at the expense of your wallet, but, hey, you know, you know, what I want is like the Amazon buying thing. So you buy a product for me, I review it, and then I send it back to you. If I don't like it or if I like it, I keep it. And then you go buy another one for yourself.
No, that's too funny. Yeah. No. So I was checking out the Wirecutter for the, like, Lululemon.
Well, okay, so I should back up. I was checking out for yoga mats, and I. I thought it was very funny that the number one rated yoga mat on Wirecutter was the Lululemon Bic, which is like $70 or something like that, which you were totally berating in the last podcast. Yeah, I don't want to pay $70 for a mat that I'm gonna lay on.
Like, I. I don't need that in my life. You know, Like, I get it might be the best. And if I did yoga religiously, like, multiple times a day.
Right. I did sun salutations every morning, and I did sessions every single day. And like, when I went to the gym, that was, you know, yoga. Then, sure, maybe I'd like to spend $70, but for the casual, like, yoga yogi, whatever you want to say.
No, man, like, $70 is too much. Like, I could buy a set of 50 pound dumbbells for $70 and I get way more use out of that than I would have 70 yoga mat. Okay. I mean, hey, you know, justified to me, I guess.
Then my question comes is, how often are you doing yoga? Well, I just finished the session, so, like, usually once or twice a week. Okay, and what is a session to you? Like, 30 minutes?
Yeah, they're guided sessions. So the app that I use, which is Pocket Yoga, it has basically practices you can go through where they just kind of, you know, walk you through the poses and kind of just the whole flow of the session. So those can be 30, 45, or 60 minutes. And there are a.
There are a handful of, like, different choices you can do, like, and they're categorized by, like, different places. Like, ocean is one, mountain is another, desert's another. And they're all kind of meant for different things. So as an example, just the desert one, which is kind of more of a healing practice.
It's not a lot of quick movements. It's more kind of like settling into your poses and focusing on, like, the rejuvenation side of things. So they have a lot longer rest periods. And, like I said, not a lot of, like, jumping in between poses or not, like, big motions in between poses.
Whereas, like, the ocean one, which, like, you know, flows in and out, that one is very. You're very active in. So you're moving poses a lot more. There's a lot less rest.
So, I mean, I guess that's a practice to me, but like I said, that's just kind of going off of a guided practice. Whereas, you know, some people just kind of go through different poses and make their own practice and have their own routines. But I'm very much a. Hey, show me how to do this, because I'm not proficient in it.
Okay. Well, yeah, I mean, I would be starting there, too. So, you know, I think I would have to get used to using one of these apps to kind of walk me through the beginning stages. But, yeah, I mean, I'll just put it this way.
For now, I haven't pulled the trigger. I happen to know somebody who has a Lululemon mat that I could easily borrow one from to just kind of get the hang of it. And so I think that's kind of my plan is to maybe later this week sit down and spend a little time going through one or two of these sessions just to see what it's like. And just based off of what you've told me, it seems like if I'm going to use pocket yoga, I'm going to start with the desert, because I don't know that I'm ready for, like, as you describe it, like, quick movements or, like, jumping between poses.
Well, it's not jumping. It's not. Okay. Quick in yoga terms is not like, hey, hop on one foot and you'll spin around and then do a backflip.
Like, it's not that. It's. You're very focused on breath and transitioning through poses, like I said. The transitions are the only thing that's quicker.
Right. So where you may say, like, hey, you know, move into downward dog, and then as you get moved into downward dog, immediately after, that's like, okay, now, you know, right leg in the air, you know, or, you know, pull through to warrior, you know, so they'll have, like. Like I said, just quicker transitions. But it doesn't mean, like, you're every two seconds, you know, switching poses.
It's more of a kind of get yourself stretched out first and then go through, like, a whole flow. Just like a really smooth, like, no pauses flow, and then rest. And they're pretty good, pretty nicely. Can I ask why you're doing this, by the way?
Like, you mentioned, you know, oh, well, Adam does it, you know, so I might give it a try. But, like, is there any particular reason? Like, are you looking for, like, just being more flexible, or do you want more core strength? Like, what do you want?
I mean, I guess I would say the big things I'm looking for, if anything, is. I guess it's twofold. One, I should break it up and say that I spoke a little bit about the cycle studio changes that are coming, and the thing that I think might come down the line is that the new cycle studio, the instructors are dual certified. They're yoga instructors as well.
So I really wouldn't be surprised if I end up seeing something like 30 minutes of cycle paired with 30 minutes of yoga or something like that as a class. Maybe not, you know, like every class, but just some of the classes. And then the other piece of it is just the fact that, like, I think, if anything, I would want to work on flexibility and just stretching, because I don't think I do enough of that. Especially, like, after, you know, cycle and stuff like that, I think I tend to stretch quickly and then move on to whatever I need to do.
And, you know, I mean, for all kinds of purposes, what I've been told, it's. It's good to stretch, so I should probably do it more often than I actually do. Yes, always stretch. Don't want to pull something.
It also helps with, like, muscle recovery and stuff like that, too. So, yeah, it's good. Yeah. And you're supposed to, like, only stretch at the end, right?
I mean, like, I've always heard that, like, yeah, you don't stretch too much to warm up. It's always, like, an ending thing, is what I've been told. Yeah, that's usually what I do, is it's part of the recovery. So when I'm working out.
Like, I always Chapter. I'll do something, like, beforehand to get my heart rate up. So you should be, like, cardio before weight training. But after that, if I'm going to do, like, yoga, it'll usually be a day after I've worked out or immediately after I've worked out.
And sometimes that'll be the only workout that I do. It will just be a yoga session. But, hey, everyone's different. That's just my routine.
And hopefully you enjoy it and realize how inflexible you probably are. Oh, yeah. I'm fully prepared to, like, not be able to do half the poses when I start because I just won't be flexible enough or whatever. And that will come with time, hopefully.
Can you touch your toes? Yeah, I can touch my toes. Not, like, not extremely well. Like, I can't do the whole, like, hand flat on the ground kind of thing, you know, But I can touch my toes.
Okay, so goals. Yeah, there's those crazy people that are, like, able to, like, lay their hand flat on the ground, and I'm definitely not at that level. But, yeah, I can touch my toes. And.
Yeah. So I was hoping I got the Lululemon mats, and I totally was like, you know, if I was gonna buy one of their mats, I would splurge for the extra, like, $6 and buy the big mat because it's, like, 12 inches longer. And me being as big of a guy as I am, I think that would probably be wise. You would need it.
Yeah. Yeah. So what's fun is I will say that if you go down to the budget pick, which is the one that I bought, that one is already longer than the Lululemon one, so. Oh, really?
What is the length on that one? I don't remember. It's long enough. Well, I was.
I was laughing at the description of, like, the Lululemon one, because I think somebody compared it to in the comments, like, it's the size of a standard US Door, like, interior door for, like, a house. So, I mean, that just seems like, you know, I was like. I just immediately looked at, like, the door in my bedroom. I was like, oh, yeah, that would do.
I think I could be perfectly fine. I could walk through that. But you have to remember that your hands are raised up too. Right.
Like, yeah, I guess you are laying down. Yes. But you also have periods where. Yeah.
Just make sure it's at least as tall as you are, at least. Yeah, yeah. So anyway. So that was my.
My thought in looking at that one. But anyway, so continuing The Lululemon trend. You went on the budget Lululemon shopping spree this week, is that correct? What?
Well, so it's back to school season and the kids need to go back to school shopping. So as a parent I'm just like, okay, well I only want to stop at one place. I don't want to go all over the place to shop for clothes. So I went to Old Navy, you know, which has just kind of like a plethora of clothes and something that probably everyone would like.
So as a kid's shopping, they're going through the thing. I kind of look over and waddle on over into the men's activewear section and I'm looking at shorts and I'm like, well these kinda look like and feel like the shorts, you know, that Lou was talking about with the Lululemon, you know, especially when I went in the pop up store and like just felt the material of their shorts. So I was like, hmm, let me take a look at these bad boys. So I found, I found a pair and I was like, alright, I'll try them on.
So I tried them on. I'm like, okay, they fit. You know, they're nine inch inseam. So I was curious how the length would be too, right.
Nine inch seems fine, no problems there. And not too much leg, not too little leg, just enough leg for everyone to see. And so I bought them and they were $8 I think is what it was. So I mean for I could get a whole set of these, these workout shorts and you know, be perfectly fine probably for the rest of my life with a pair of one set of the Lulu shorts.
And I do have to say that after owning these things and after feeling the ones from that, you have these shorts from Lulu. I was like, there's no way these are everyday shorts, man. Like no way. These are not supposed to be like I stumble out and do, you know, just go out through my day.
But they're great workout shorts and I just did the yoga practice in them, so no complaints yet. And I saved $64 or whatever it was. Hey man, I'm just gonna tell you, wear those for a day. You know, roll a whole like Saturday or Sunday with those babies on, you'll be real happy.
Well yeah, that's a Saturday or Sunday, like a weekend, the casual weekend. It's not like let me go to work in these things. I mean, I don't know what you can get away with at work. I can't get away with them at work.
So guess what? I Will, it's like. It's like, you know how, like, there's these, like, really, really, like, corporate jobs that have, like, you gotta be a suit every day, and then they get really excited about wearing jeans on Friday. It's like, imagine jeans on Friday for those folks, like, every day.
It's like, well, you know, my version of that is Lululemon. Yeah, that's not special anymore. So what you gotta do is reverse it. So every Friday you gotta dress up nice.
Yeah, every Friday I gotta, you know, put some actual clothes on. But. Put some actual clothes on. See, you admitted it right there.
It's on. It's on the record. Anyway, so this week I wanted to talk a little bit about, like, weather apps. I know we.
We have briefly touched on this before in the sense that we talked about, you know, kind of travel and like, apps we use to, you know, kind of keep an idea on the forecast. But I was kind of curious before we just dive head first into stuff, what is your kind of take on what weather apps do you use? I mean, do you have, like, multiple. And is there one you go to that is like, okay, this is my daily driver.
Can I just, like, skip this topic altogether? Like this, this. When I opened the outline, I asked what we're going to talk about. Like, how.
How am I going to talk about this for any amount of time? How am I going to add anything useful to this conversation? Because I use the Stockweather app 90% of the time. Really?
Basically asking, hey, hey, assistant, what's the weather outside? And there's the weather. And most of the time it's like, okay, I look outside and we live in California where we're fortunate enough to, you know, not have crazy fluctuations in weather. So.
So especially from, let's say, May to October, really, I know exactly what I'm gonna be wearing, which is shorts and sandals. Like that. That's just a given. So when it does rain, I use dark sky.
And that's only like, getting a forecast for the week or an idea if it's going to rain. Otherwise, I just look outside, man. Like, weather apps are not my. Not my shtick.
You know, I have one. And if you include the stock weather app that comes with, you know, said device and that you can vote via a smart assistant or a whatever you want to call assistant, then that's what I'd use. Like, I can't believe you use primarily the stock weather app. It tells me what the temperature is outside.
It tells me the sun here. If it's cloudy, it tells Me all the things I need to know. Am I gonna notice it if it's 2 degrees off? Like, no, I'm not.
I'm gonna walk outside and I'm gonna be just, you know, as fine as I was. If I would check the hyper, accurate, hyper local, you know, like giving me to the minute humidity, like I hot garbage, man, that's hot garbage, I'll tell you that much. Oh God, I can't use that app. I haven't used that app in four or five years.
At least using it. All I'm doing is asking the assistant what it is and if anything I'm just looking at like the widget that gives me the number and an icon, which I'm like, cool, that's great. That's all I need. Like, I don't need, I don't need it.
Like the whole weather segment that they used to have on tv, I don't need that. Just throw it up on a splash screen running on the bottom. That's all you need. I don't need someone telling me what the weather is going to be.
Like, just, I don't, I don't care. I don't really need to know. Just tell me what the high temperature is gonna be if it's gonna rain on one of those days and I'm happy. Like, I don't, I don't get the obsession about weather maps.
I don't understand it. Okay, okay, okay. So wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So you said that you don't, I mean, in terms of like the TV forecast, you'd rather just like run on the ticker on the bottom and that you don't need to know, you know anything about that whole like, segment which.
Okay, I can kind of get behind that. I mean, in California you don't need to know. Like, that's my whole thing. If I live anywhere else, if I live in any other state, any other place that experienced weather, just in general, then sure, absolutely, I would.
But I live in California and this is really boring because living in California, I get to brag all the time, Humble brags about, hey, we don't have weather, it's just nice all the time. Yeah. You get to pay the California weather tax and therefore you don't have to worry about the damn weather. Right, Exactly.
We pay for it. Yeah. Okay, so, okay, so my question is, so do you care about the seven day forecast when they, I mean, is that even a concern to you? Most of the time?
No. Like, unless it's rainy season, like I said, which is all of Four months out of the year, unless it's one of those seasons, I'm just like, is it going to rain a lot this week or maybe a little. And I know that changes, but most of the times I'll just tell you what the weather's going to be like today at the place of, you know, my destination. And that tells me if I need to grab a jacket or no jacket.
Okay. All right, all right. So, I mean, the main reason I use some of these, like, alternative apps is because I definitely found variation in, you know, I mean, if you look at like two or three of these apps, like, I've seen as much as like 7 or 8 degrees variation. That's a lot of it is just based on like, where their weather station is pulling and 70 degrees.
Like, I mean, that's bordering on like, hey, I'm. I mean, at the right time here, I'm carrying a code or not carrying a code or, you know, doing this or doing that. It's. It could alter what I'm, what I'm wearing or what I'm, you know, going to plan for.
But I mean, I get. We both live in California. That's a very different, you know, kind of debate that we have here than say, you know, my mom who lives in Florida and there's hurricanes, you know, so, I mean, I get that weather apps may not be, you know, the most important category for Californians. You know, that's what we pay for here.
But. Okay, so you just use the stock weather app. That's fair to say. And Dark sky is kind of like a go to in the rainy season.
Yeah. Just if I need to find out if it's raining, I'll use Dark sky because that's what it's made for. That was the whole kind of inception idea for Dark sky was rain. So makes sense.
Okay, do you have the Dark sky notifications turned on to like, tell you, like, hey, it's gonna rain in 30 minutes? Absolutely not. No, we talked about this notifications. Like, I don't have anything dinghy if it's gonna rain outside.
No, it's like, it's gonna rain five minutes, you know, from now probably. Like, well, then I'll look outside and it'll be raining. Like, I already looked and said it was going to rain today. So I'm already prepped for that.
I'll just, I'll live with the fact that it might rain. Like, okay, I don't want something dinghy to me tell me that it's gonna rain. Like, it's. Have A nice surprise when it does rain, you know, especially in California.
Another reason they're like, oh, my God. Like, no, I'd rather have it be a pleasant surprise that, you know, my rain dance actually did work. And it's now raining again. Yeah, I can definitely agree with that.
We need all the rain we can get here. But okay, so my go to is. Oh, God, you're gonna just berate me because I have, like, so many. So my go to is Carrot Weather.
That's my, like, Daily Driver 1. And it is pulling from Dark Sky, I believe, or I don't know. I think I can flip it between Dark sky and Weather Underground, which I have both of those as side apps, and I don't really use them. I'll be honest.
Doesn't Dark sky pull from Weather Underground too? Like, isn't that all. I know Dark sky does their hyper accurate thing will actually take, like, device measurements as well if you opt into that. But I thought they were all using, like, Weather Underground as a backend.
I think Dark sky wrote their own API. Like, they have their own separate, you know, total reporting system. I think the two big players in the industry are Weather Underground and Dark sky. I'm not 100% on that.
Don't quote me on that. But I'm pretty confident those are the two. Totally right. The Weather Underground by far has, like, the, like, hyper thing, like, nailed.
And I mean, I say that not only to say that because there's sensors all over, it seems like, but there's somebody like, on my street that has a sensor because you zoom all the way in and it's like, all right, I live on a double cul de sac, and somebody here has my, you know, essentially my, you know, weather down nailed. So, you know, it's. It's really, really, really, really nice to be able to be like, hey, you know, I know exactly what it is. Okay, so that's two apps.
I know there are more, so keep going. So, yes, there are definitely more. So the one, I guess I would say I used this a couple years ago is something called Weather Line. Weather Line is basically just gives you sort of averages over.
You can look at either month view, day view, or hourly view. And it's just giving you like, hey, this is, you know, how the temperature is going to flow. And I really like it for the month view. That's the only thing I really use it for because trends is really nice.
So I know where I am in Southern California, the trend in August is 92 degrees and low is 72 and therefore I know from the dog is like roughly what I should expect. But that's also the highest temperature of the summer and that, you know, by December it'll be 65 during the day and 42 is a low average. And it also gives you a little bit like a rainbow average day by day. So I kind of have some idea of how rainy or not rainy it's going to be, which is really nice.
So that's cool. And then the other one that I would say is the last one is weather atlas. And this one definitely pulls, I think from dark sky, but it uses Apple maps as like a mapping surface and then allows you to overlay like a million types of things. You can basically pick your overlay and their overlay options are radar, clouds, temperatures, humidity, one hour precipitation, 24 hour accumulation.
You can also pick thunderstorms, tornadoes, hot winds, blizzard alerts, snow, ice, freezing, hurricane and tropical storms, tropical storm tracks, and hurricane tracks, fire, floods and fog. So they have like a million things you can overlay and you can pick what you want to overlay on there. This one, I won't lie. Mom's in Florida.
Hurricanes are a real thing. This was just pretty much purchased for that intent so that I can see how close it was to her. Last year there was one that passed pretty close by, as you may remember. And so it was really kind of imperative that I kind of know up to the moment where the bands are rain were and what was going on.
So you should have, oh my gosh, I'm counting the apps that you have, and it's a ridiculous amount if you're living in California. Like, you should never have that many or you should never need that many other apps. And let me just say, like, you should brought on like a guest for this episode because, like, I have nothing to input here, man. Like, I'm so boring.
There's like nothing for me to say on this. Like, you talk about overlays and you mentioned like blizzards and ice and freezing. I'm like, okay, so our pipes froze maybe once when they were insulated. When I drop below 30 degrees appear, which I thought was like obscene.
Like, I didn't think that could ever happen. But other than that, man, like, I don't know. I don't even know to say to you, Lou. Okay, so then, then I think, you know, my kind of question then is, and I think I can kind of answer this was, are you, are you a stats nerd?
Are you somebody who's like, you know, I want to know humidity. I want to know, you know, all those things, or is it just purely temperature and is it sunny or is it not outside? Is that kind of the gist of it? For the most part, yes.
Because once again, living in California, it's never going to be crazy humid. It's never going to be, you know, I don't know, it's not. It's not going to matter. Right.
It's not going to fluctuate that much. And I'm going to say all this and watch, like, next year and be like some crazy freak weather, you know, crazy phenomenon because of climate change. And California's gonna become like a jungle because of all the humidity and thunderstorms and, you know, there'll be like a tornado that runs through. It's something weird, right?
Who knows? But the only thing I really care about is, yeah, give me the sky conditions, right? Is it gonna be cloudy or is gonna be sunny and is it going to be hot or cold? And sure, if the humidity is, like, on the same screen, great.
But if it's not, I'm not going to spend any other effort to get to it. Like, if it's not presented right in my face in the place I'm looking for, if it's not said to me in the quote, unquote weather report that I get, nope, I'm not gonna care, and nope, I'm not gonna dig into it and nope, don't care about the stats. All right. Yeah, I mean, I think you can kind of tell by the sheer amount of apps I have, stats is kind of a must for me.
I definitely want to know as much as I can about it. And. But why? Why?
That's the question that I have is why? Okay, so, I mean, at the end of the day, like, meteorology is not really, like. I mean, it's a science, but it's not really great. Right.
I mean, can you agree with me there that, like, they're just kind of hoping that their, like, weather models are predicted correctly? Is that fair to say? Yeah, it's like you run a bunch of simulations and say, hey, this is probably what it's going to be based on trends, based on this, based on airflow, based on whatever. Right.
Like, I get that there's science, but so many times it feels like throwing a dart at the dartboard and seeing what weather is going to be for Wednesday, you know? Yeah. I mean, I tend to agree with you that it's like 50% of the time they're the. Right.
And 50% of the time they weren't even Close. So I'm not knocking their profession, by the way. Like, I know there's a lot of science that goes into, and there are a lot of important, you know, roles and, you know, factors that go into that. Especially when we talk about, like you said, trending four things like climate change and tracking, just the history of weather and what will, you know, what's our breaking point, you know, especially for the planet.
So I get it. But if we're talking just about the, you know, my sphere of influence or my sphere of, you know, knowledge, weather, like, there's no need for me to know that information, and there are better people than me collecting all that information anyway, so. Okay, yeah, and I totally can agree with you there. There are people whose profession it is to do exactly this.
Right. And. And they went to school for it. And I'm not knocking their profession at all.
They're 50% of the time right, 50% of the time wrong. Nothing wrong with that. I understand it's an extremely complicated thing to try to predict and to do, and that there is massive amounts of, you know, tech and computer resources that go into it. But that being said, the reason I think I use multiple apps is to really kind of sort of generalize that data.
Because I've totally looked at one app and been like, oh, yeah, it's not gonna rain today. And they look another app, it's like 30 chance of rain today. Okay, well, hell, like 30 means they might actually pack a jacket today. Like, it's like they can't even come to the same consensus between like two or three apps sometimes.
So that's why sometimes I definitely look at more than one app and say, hey, you know, what's the hourly forecast? What's this? So that I can get an idea, you know? All right, well, if two out of three apps are saying this, maybe I'm gonna play my day a little differently then.
So I get that, you know, hey, I'm California, I shouldn't have to worry about this too much. But, you know, more data is better. At the end of the day, that's all I'm gonna say. More data is better, but you're not using the data, man.
Like, there's, there's no reason for you to use this data. You talk about, you know, data fatigue and having too much data and really questioning like, hey, do I need this data? This is hoarded all over again, man, where you're just like, now hoarding stats for weather apps, you know, just so you can get hyper accurate alerts of when you need to pack an umbrella or a jacket. But like I said, for people who live in a place where there is unpredictable, which, yes, weather is by nature unpredictable.
You see what I did there? Weather, by nature unpredictable. I should tell you, I don't own an umbrella at all. Okay, well, that's a mistake.
I mean. I mean, this is what raincoats for, right? And I live in California where it doesn't rain that often. So, you know, I own one coat, and for the most part, I never have to walk, like, an obscene distance outside, you know, so, like, I mean, I might have to go, like 250ft on a rainy day if it's crazy, you know, I'm not gonna be, like, sitting at Disneyland on rainy day.
Like, you don't go on your scenic walks in. In the rainbow. Not really. Like, that's a day I'll just pick to do, like, spin or something inside.
It's okay. I'll live. See, that's. That's the only reason I carry an umbrella is like.
Well, yeah, there are times where I have to wait outside, you know, for a bus. And yes, there are awnings and stuff like that, so not a big problem there. But now that I'm walking, you know, to the bus, and I do take my, you know, afternoon walks, rain or shine, I carry an umbrella just in my backpack all the time. We probably talk about that when we went over the backpack I daily carry.
But, yeah, there's an umbrella in there, and it's the Wirecutter recommended budget pick. And yeah, it doesn't take a lot of space. It's not heavy, and it's there if I ever need it, so I don't worry about it. Okay.
All right. All right. Anyway, what were we talking about? Scaffold Hoarders.
I made a horrible dad joke. There's another point that I was trying to get to, but now it's completely escaped me. Yeah, I don't even know at this point. You were just berating me about my, you know, stats, my necessary stats that I needed for all this.
No, it's just. You okay? Yeah. Thank you.
It just got me right back on track. It's just useless information to you. It's just you mentioned how you have a teen and you have poc, has subscription fatigue. Like, you just try to overload yourself.
Like, you try to take in so much to where you're not even, like, absorbing the information. You're not. You're not. You need to go through that book called Essentialism.
You ever heard of that book? No, I don't think I have. Well, okay. Well, it's just going through life and finding out, like, do I need this?
Is this something I need in my life? And it's all about, you know, we needing down to what's essential to live. And God, I would hate to see all the stuff you have to get rid of to, you know, become just minimalist. But yeah, man, this is another one of the things where, like I said, for you, it boggles my mind because, yes, I will berate you all day long because you're spending A, money, right, on things that you don't need, B, time on consuming all of this information that you don't need.
And C, it's a huge waste because you're not even utilizing most of it because of where you live. Okay, all right, so let's jump to the money debate then. So, Dark sky, remind me, is it like one time payment or was it like, is it subscription? One time, four bucks.
Done. Okay. All right, so you're in the, like, I paid for one weather app one time seven years ago, and I don't pay for it again. So, I mean, as you can imagine with mine, some of these are subscriptions.
So I don't know, I think I have an ongoing maybe like five bucks a year in weather app fees or something like that. It's not the end of the world breaking my piggy bank or anything like that. And I mean, the total cost. I have Dark sky too.
And so, you know, I mean, I spent some money along the way, maybe 15 bucks total, but nothing like insane. But I'm not afraid to, I guess, throw a little money at it. I understand that this stuff has, like, ongoing cost more than some other industries that want to charge you a subscription fee. So I'm.
I guess I'm more justified in to throw a few bucks. These people away or towards these people, you know, I mean, just. It doesn't, you know, they're like, okay, it's one coffee essentially a year, quote unquote. You know, I mean, I don't drink coffee.
But. But isn't all the data out there for free, right? Like, isn't the data just there? Can't you pull like any weather station ever just anytime and gather that information?
I'm pretty sure that they're just. You can just pull weather station data. Like, granted, yes, they have an interface, they have a front end, but you can get the raw data if you want it. You may be able to from, I don't know, the government.
If they have some, like, database or something. But, like, Dark sky and Weather Underground have built their. Their, like, systems and databases, but any app that queries those databases pays for that, and they pay for, like, a certain number of polls and how often you're pulling and all that. Good jazz.
Yeah, I got that. The proprietary ones. But I'm saying they're free alternatives that you can use. Oh, I'm sure there are.
And I mean, you know, they're probably backed by the government of the state or whoever, and, you know, to subsidize some of that, you know, ongoing cost. But I mean, to the point that they are, you know, more accurate and relevant, you know, I mean, it's like there's probably, like, one in every town in America instead of, like, something like Weather undergrounds. Probably, like 50 in my town. You know, it's a little.
A little ridiculous. All right, so payment aside, do you check the weather on your. On your Mac at all? I just did right now, just because I pulled up, you know, the Today view from notification center, and I was like, okay, partly cloudy, it's 59.
The high today was 75. Okay, cool. Like, that's all I need to know. That's it.
So I don't regularly check on my Mac. I did because you prompted me to. But like I said, most of the time it's talking into the air and letting an assistant respond back to me, whether that's, you know, on HomePod or on my iPhone or iPad or. I think we get to the watch in a little bit because I think that was a little different.
But most of the time, I'm talking into the air and I don't need to have something, doesn't need to have a Mac app. And I swear, I think this will be my tipping point, because you're going to tell me that you have, like, the Carrot Weather app on your Mac, and I'm just going to let out another sigh and go stab myself in the leg or something like that to feel something again. So this is really funny because I actually don't have the Carrot Weather app. Oh, thank you, Jesus.
And it's really kind of funny because I didn't even know they had one. So for the Mac. So, like, I don't want to say I'm, like, jumping towards it and just going to throw them another, like, you know, sum of money. I'm definitely not doing that, but at the same time, I had no idea they even had one.
So thank you for opening those eyes. But there are a million, don't get me wrong. And to Be honest, I just don't check my. Whether at this device, you're kind of right.
Like, the places I check whether are my iPad, my iPhone, my Apple Watch. Well, if you're checking on the computer, you're inside, right? Like, yeah, why would you need to check when you're inside on your computer? Like, stand up and go to a window.
Like, do you really need to, like, not be bothered to, like, get up and check? Now, same argument can be from the phone. People who check whether when they're outside on the phone for the place that they're in is kind of like, I don't know, look away for a second. Like, look up.
Is the sun shining? Don't look at the sun, people, unless you are president, which, yes, please, look at the sun more. Yeah, I never got that. But on the Mac, it's like, unless you're looking the seven days out, right, and trying to plan your vacation, which I agree, those will probably be very useful, right?
Like, hey, show me the weather in, you know, Hawaii. Or show me the weather as a bad example, because Hawaii, you know, doesn't really have too much weather either. But show me the weather in the destination I'm going to in a week so I can plan out kind of like my trip. Like, I get that.
Or show me the weather where mom is. What are you talking about, man? Hawaii gets a good amount of weather. Well, okay, rain and sun and some more rain and snow and.
And, you know, like hurricanes, like the one that just passed it in the last four or five days. Yes. But when I think weather, I think all of, I think different types of weather, like, many different types of weather. And in temperate climate, which I'm in.
So I'm very much, you know, like I said, born, you know, raised California. So who knows? Maybe I'm totally wrong. And someone who knows about weather.
We'll come to school beyond this once again, why should have had a guess on this episode. But to me, when you have two different types of weather, even three different types of weather, like, hey, you know, there might be a hurricane, at which point you're not going to just get like a weather app alert. You're probably gonna get one of those awesome, you know, really loud alerts that go off, you know, just emergency alerts saying like, hey, yo, move out the way, there's a hurricane on its way. You know, hurricanes are not quite like tornadoes.
You know, it's not like run and hide a storm shelter kind of thing. You just know ahead of time, right? They give you the time, like, hey, this hurricane's gonna be coming through this path, and it's gonna rain a lot, and it's gonna be really windy. And we highly, strongly, strongly, strongly recommend that you not be here when it happens.
Yeah, I feel like that's the thing that you're going to get from, like, the news, right? You just open Twitter and be like, hurricane, move out the way, you know, or you turn on channel, whatever. Local news, like, hurricane, move out the way. Right?
But I'm talking hurricanes. Makes sense. Thunderstorms also make sense. Places where.
And I've, you know, gone to places. And I'll never forget the first time I went to the east coast to visit my cousins, and it was the middle of summer, and we walked outside and we went to, you know, like, this lake of swimming. And then all of a sudden, just the sky got dark and it started pouring rain and, like, crashing thunder and lightning. And I was like, what the heck just happened?
It was sunny, like, five minutes ago. What is this nonsense? And then it stops 10 minutes later. And then we walked back home and then immediately started pouring again.
And I was like, is this. Is this what weather's like? Because if it is, I don't like weather. Like, weather can go.
Go stay here. Like, I'll go to California where, you know, I'll know ahead of time, like, hey, my rain on Thursday. And then Thursday comes and it still does the rain. I'm like, okay, well, you know, there we go.
Yeah, you're used to our California rain where, like, rain that means, like, oh, it's like, lightly sprinkling. And we all classify that as, like, oh, man, major rain. We got some, like, you know, oh, dear God, run. You know, I mean.
I mean, the only thing that, like, I think it's hilarious is that when people, you know, you know, start some family in Florida and they come here and they're like. They're like, you know, why are you guys getting, like, flash flood alerts for like, a third of an inch? I'm like, well, you see, you live in Florida, and first of all, it's very flat, and second of all, it rains a lot. And most of it, you know, sinks in or goes into waterways or, you know, there's this big giant thing called a swamp in the middle of Florida, you know, so it has a lot of places to go.
But then there's California, and most of it is surrounded by mountains. So when it rains on those mountains, it goes to the bottom of the mountains, I guess, where we all live. The bottom of the mountains in the valleys. So they have no idea.
And I remember Viv, like one time some family was visiting and it had rained a good portion of the day and there were some flash flood alerts where I grew up in. Sure enough, like, you know, they were laughing hysterically, laughing at us as California. Like, why is everybody freaking out of the flash flood alerts? And then like, you know, 11 o' clock news comes on and they're like showing like swift water rescues and stuff like that.
Like, whoa, this actually is a thing. It was. It was sort of a vindicating moment where I was like, yes, it does actually flood here. I love how we're talking about all this rain.
Like, we love all this rain. And like, close to California's technically on fire right now, so. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it's on fire.
It's kind of fitting. Yeah, yeah, we need the rain, believe me. Well, not right after all the fires and then just causes the mudslides and then we're still, you know, shit out of luck. Yeah, that's.
They don't go together. I guess this is true. So maybe people just don't live in California anymore. Everyone should just leave California.
I'll stay behind, but everyone else can leave. Yeah, everyone else should leave State of One and State of Adam, let's rename it. I'm just hoping, you know, enough people leaving. The mass exodus will cause housing prices to fall a little bit.
You know, it's a good property. All right, so I know you mentioned this, you wanted to get to weather on the watch, so this must be something you actually actively check. So I wanted to get to it because I definitely have a watch face that has the weather on it. And that watch face I never use because I don't know, man, like I said, looking at your wrist to see if it's raining or not, like, most of the time you can hear if it's raining.
There are times where I'll have the complication right set up to where it's got at least a weather condition. Outside, I only have the temperature. I just want the weather condition. And I will, you know, just glance at that as I'm looking at the time whether I need to go to, you know, my next meeting or if I'm getting ready to go outside for walk, whatever it is, if I can at least see the weather conditions just on the face of the watch, then I at least have a better idea.
Once again, this only applies to the four months of the year where any weather is actually going to fluctuate California. But the weather on the watch, the most useful thing I find is just that complication. Like I can't tell you the last time I actually opened the weather app to look at things or scroll through like different weather destinations or like scroll through to see like what temperature would be at any given time of day. Like, I don't plan out my day that much, I guess.
And even when we go to the beach, usually I only check the weather at the beach, which could be a mistake in some scenarios where you get there it's all overcast. But yeah, most of the time, like I don't bother. And it being on the watch only serves a purpose, like with a casual glance. And that's again like if I had, if I don't know what the weather's going to be, like if I had an idea, I'll never glance.
But let's say I forgot and I'm, you know, noticing one of those four month rain periods. Just glancing at the watch, looking at the complication for the sky conditions is really all that I do. All right. So yeah, I mean the watch, for me it's, I mean I definitely use it.
It is a complication. It's on my normal watch face and I mean it's not something I. It's on your normal watch face. There's, there's so much valuable space there.
Like, oh, I prefer to have my only focus task count on the watch base rather than my weather. I don't want that on there. I mean, so here's the thing, like on your focus, it's, it's, it's got like less than 10 things to do in a week that I need to absolutely have done a week. So I mean, if it's overclouded with stuff, I'm not even gonna get on you focus.
I'll just like throw it to the back. So for me, I open focus like, you know, once a day, look at the two things I need to do, close it. You know, it's not like it's just overflowing with stuff. So I don't even have it on watch face.
I've got it installed. I can go look at it if I want to. But they're, you know, the two things that are on there are weather and messages and activity. I guess I should say three then.
So I don't really keep a lot on there. And the, you know, if I go, I have one other, you know, sort of less information watch face that contains a complication for messages and a complication for phone and that's it. And Phone is just really just a shortcut. If I'm on my day off.
It's a really kind of quiet watch face. And a lot of times I walk around without the phone. I didn't mean for this stream to watch this episode. So when you, when you said you have a weather complication, like which one, just the regular one or which app do you use for your weather complication?
Carrot Weather is the complication. I mean it's my go to one. So it's basically got, you know, everything in it. And so, you know, when I open that up, it gives me my, you know, temperature and precipitation and it gives me a five day forecast.
And what is the complication shift? Because I already opened the app, man. Like what is the complication show? Just when you glance at it, it shows degree, temperature as well as a icon that either shows sun partly cloudy or if it's raining, rain, just like water droplet.
Okay, so the weather condition and temperature. Yeah, you're telling me like it's a sun and the sun has five rays coming out of it. There's also a rain one. I'm like, I'm thinking about it.
I'm like, which ones have I seen? But then again, like I had never seen snow, obviously anywhere there is snow. So I was like, I'm sure it has snow, but right now it's the moons. This is sky condition or the weather condition and the temperature.
Okay, I got that. I'm sure they have some fancy little, you know, icon or glyph or asset for each weather condition, ones that we will never experience in California. But. Okay, that's cool.
And then I said they combined it into one. I will say that, I mean it would be nice to glance and have more of that information. Yeah, you can, you can do just temperature if you want to do just temperature, but it's controllable. Yeah.
So the equancy condition and temperature together. Now they do, they do wrap this into the like they charge you yearly kind of thing for it because their justification is it does hit one of their either the Weather Underground or the Dark Sky API like every 15 minutes to update based on your current location. So every 15 minutes a sucker, I guess is going out and hitting some, you know, server database and they're getting of course some infinitesimally small charge for that. But over the long haul of a year that adds up.
So they charge you. I think it's like two bucks a year or something like that to have that. You know, it's that and a bunch of other features that it's all these things that add up over time. And I say, well, it's only $5.
It's only $2 a year. It's only this, it's only that. It's like, dude, whenever you get married, whenever that is, and whenever you have your own house, and whenever you go to the budget at the end of the year, it's like, what do we spend your money on? And you total up all the in app purchases and all the subscriptions, and you look at all that stuff and you ask yourself, like, what's more important?
Having the gym in my house or paying for a weather app that I barely use? I mean, I do definitely do, like, you know, I'm constantly, you know, every, you know, couple months, I have a beating omnipotent to look at that stuff and say, is the subscription worth it? You know, I have to unsubscribe from all my things. Omnipocus remind me to unsubscribe from everything.
Yeah, no, I definitely do look at it. It's something that. I mean, Netflix is a prime example of one. Like, I go back to it like once a year, and I just hate it.
I hate it. I can't stand it. I don't. I don't even find great content on it.
So I just unsubscribe all the time. I sat for like one month for free, and like, as soon as it's ready to renew, I'm like, yeah, screw that. Like, I've watched two hours in one month. You're not worth my $9 or whatever a month.
My kids love the Netflix. Oh, God, can't do it. Can't do it. So anyway, all right, so we've beat weather to death.
And the long short of it is Lou is making up for Adam by basically buying all the weather apps. And Adam has, like one, maybe one half. One and a half. I mean, like this built in weather apps, they count as one app.
But yeah, as far as, like, the weather app market, I'm definitely not supporting, like, that market in any way, shape or form. Like, if I pull out that market, no one would even notice. Yeah, that's for sure. Dark side's like.
All right, have a good one. So we got your $4. So great. Yeah, thanks.
Thanks again. All right, well, I mean, I'm sure we'll redo this episode in, like 200 episodes. And, you know, I'll remember to bring somebody on because Lord knows the landscape will have changed by then. And Adam will, you know, just berate both of us.
Then I'm just saying, like, if there's another person that comes on here, I berate you. You know, like, let's be specific here is because you live in the same state that I do. We live in the same, you know, area for a while and I know what the weather is like now. I still have a house there.
Do I care what the weather is like? Occasionally, you know, especially when it's really hot. I was like, well, I wonder how the house is doing because I put in warm season grass. I hope the warm season grass is doing well because it's in the middle of the desert where everyone has cool season grass.
But we already talked about my, my vendetta against lawns. I won't go down that road. I am at peace. It's okay, everything's fine.
But no, if there's another person that comes on who actually, you know, utilizes weather apps and finds, you know, has pro tips for it, great, like, I'm all ready to hear that person out. But you living in the same state as me, not utilizing the data that you're getting, I mean, if you were telling me you were tracking some crazy project where you're like, hey, I have to make sure it's good because I'm gonna fly my drone and when I wanna fly my drone, I gotta make sure the weather's just right. Because if it's not gonna cause some funky things happening with photography, I would give you way more credit than just saying, like, yeah, you know, like, I check it once in a while and I have five apps for it. You didn't even bring your drone once, which I thought for sure you would.
My drone? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's a. I mean, what, the weather conditions to fly the drone, Is that weird?
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Like just weather conditions, like wind conditions, stuff like that. If you wanted to go to a certain place and fly your drone. Granted, yes, I'm sure the drones can handle all sorts of weather conditions, but I'm thinking, like, if you're into the photography aspect or if you're, you know, looking to maximize your battery potential or whatever it may be.
Right? Who knows? Like I said, I would give you way more street cred for using it to check, you know, before you fly your drone than what you gave me, which was just like, yeah, I have them and I use them. Okay, so that's kind of like a non negotiable because you don't, you don't really need to check the weather app.
Before you fly the drone, you just put it up and, I mean, it takes you. It's gonna rain five minutes, though, Lou. Yeah, okay. But at the end of the day, like, I've flown it in the sort of conditions, and I float in Florida where I could see, like, rain bands moving towards me.